Jeremy Heimans: What new power looks like

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譯者: Yamei Huang 審譯者: Jack Ricardo
00:12
So this is Anna Hazare,
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這位是安納·哈扎爾,
00:15
and Anna Hazare may well be the most cutting-edge
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安納·哈扎爾可能是現今世界上
00:19
digital activist in the world today.
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最前衛的數位社會運動的人。
00:22
And you wouldn't know it by looking at him.
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從外表你是看不出來。
00:24
Hazare is a 77-year-old Indian anticorruption and social justice activist.
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哈扎爾是一位 77 歲的印度 反貪腐及宣揚社會正義的社運人士。
00:30
And in 2011, he was running a big campaign
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2011 年,他發起了 一個大規模的活動
00:33
to address everyday corruption in India,
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挑戰印度隨處可見的貪腐,
00:36
a topic that Indian elites love to ignore.
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這是一個印度權貴階級 有意忽視的問題。
00:39
So as part of this campaign,
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身為活動的一份子,
00:41
he was using all of the traditional tactics
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他使用傳統的戰術
00:43
that a good Gandhian organizer would use.
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就像甘地社會活動組織者使用的戰術。
00:45
So he was on a hunger strike,
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他進行一次絕食抗議,
00:47
and Hazare realized through his hunger
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哈扎爾意識到到他絕食的過程中
00:49
that actually maybe this time,
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或許這一次,
00:51
in the 21st century,
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在 21 世紀的今天,
00:53
a hunger strike wouldn't be enough.
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絕食抗議是不夠的。
00:54
So he started playing around with mobile activism.
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於是他開始規劃以手機展開抗議。
00:59
So the first thing he did is he said to people,
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他做的第一件事情, 就是告訴人們,
01:01
"Okay, why don't you send me
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「為何不以手機傳
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a text message if you support
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一封簡訊給我
01:04
my campaign against corruption?"
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如果你支持我所發起的反貪污運動?」
01:06
So he does this, he gives people a short code,
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他這樣做了, 他給大家一組短碼,
01:08
and about 80,000 people do it.
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大約有八萬人傳了簡訊給他。
01:11
Okay, that's pretty respectable.
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這的確令人敬佩。
01:13
But then he decides,
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然後決定,
01:14
"Let me tweak my tactics a little bit."
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「讓我稍稍改變一下策略。」
01:16
He says, "Why don't you leave me a missed call?"
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他說, 「為何不給我留一通未接來電?」
01:20
Now, for those of you who have lived in the global South,
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對於在南半球居住過的你們,
01:24
you'll know that missed calls
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你會知道「未接來電」
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are a really critical part of global mobile culture.
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在行動通訊文化裡 扮演著一個很重要的角色。
01:29
I see people nodding.
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我看到有人在點頭。
01:30
People leave missed calls all the time:
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人們總是收到「未接來電」:
01:32
If you're running late for a meeting
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如果你知道參加會議要遲到了,
01:34
and you just want to let them know that you're on the way,
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而你只是想讓他們知道 你已經在路上了,
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you leave them a missed call.
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就給他們一個「未接來電」。
01:38
If you're dating someone and you just want to say "I miss you"
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如果你正在跟某人交往, 而你只是想讓對方知道「我想你」
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you leave them a missed call.
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就留一個「未接來電」。
01:41
So a note for a dating tip here,
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給大家提供一個交往的建議,
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in some cultures,
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在某些文化裡,
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if you want to please your lover,
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如果你想要取悅你的另一半,
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you call them and hang up. (Laughter)
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打電話給他們然後馬上掛斷。 (笑聲)
01:51
So why do people leave missed calls?
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為什麼人們總是留未接來電?
01:54
Well, the reason of course is that
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原因當然是,
01:56
they're trying to avoid charges
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他們想要省下那些因為
01:58
associated with making calls and sending texts.
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撥打電話和傳送簡訊的話費。
02:02
So when Hazare asked people to leave him a missed call,
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當哈扎爾要求人們 給他留未接來電之後,
02:06
let's have a little guess how many people actually did this?
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讓我們來猜一下 究竟有多少人實際這麼做了?
02:11
Thirty-five million.
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三千五百萬人。
02:15
So this is one of the largest coordinated actions in human history.
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這是人類歷史上 參與人數最多的活動之一,
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It's remarkable.
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真是了不起。
02:21
And this reflects the extraordinary strength of the emerging Indian middle class
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而這反映了正在崛起中的印度 中產階級超乎尋常的力量,
02:25
and the power that their mobile phones bring.
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以及他們使用行動電話 所能帶來的力量。
02:28
But he used that,
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哈扎爾利用這種方法,
02:30
Hazare ended up with this massive CSV file of mobile phone numbers,
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得到了這個包含 大量行動電話號碼的 CSV 檔,
02:34
and he used that to deploy
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並利用這個方法
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real people power on the ground
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聚集人力。
02:38
to get hundreds of thousands of people out on the streets in Delhi
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促使數十萬人聚集到德里街頭
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to make a national point of everyday corruption in India.
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讓印度隨時發生的貪腐問題 變成一個大家關注的焦點。
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It's a really striking story.
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這真是令人振奮的故事。
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So this is me when I was 12 years old.
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這是 12 歲的我。
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I hope you see the resemblance.
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但願你看到了某些相似之處。
02:52
And I was also an activist,
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我也是個活動家,
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and I have been an activist all my life.
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一生如此。
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I had this really funny childhood
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我的童年充滿樂趣
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where I traipsed around the world
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得以漫遊世界,
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meeting world leaders and Noble prize winners,
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與世界領導人和諾貝爾獲獎者會面,
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talking about Third World debt,
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討論第三世界債務的問題,
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as it was then called,
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當時是這麼被稱呼的,
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and demilitarization.
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還有非軍事化問題。
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I was a very, very serious child. (Laughter)
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我是個很嚴肅的孩子。 (笑聲)
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And back then,
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當時,
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in the early '90s,
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在九十年代初期,
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I had a very cutting-edge tech tool of my own:
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我也有屬於自己的前衛的工具:
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the fax.
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傳真。
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And the fax was the tool of my activism.
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傳真是我發起運動的工具。
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And at that time, it was the best way
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這也是那時候最好的溝通工具,
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to get a message to a lot of people
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能一次性地
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all at once.
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給許多人發送訊息。
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I'll give you one example of a fax campaign that I ran.
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我給你們舉一個例子 是用傳真發起的一次運動。
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It was the eve of the Gulf War
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那是海灣戰爭的前夕,
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and I organized a global campaign to flood the hotel,
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我組織了一次全球性的運動,
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the Intercontinental in Geneva,
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淹沒了日內瓦的整間洲際酒店,
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where James Baker and Tariq Aziz
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詹姆士·貝克與塔里克·阿齊茲
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were meeting on the eve of the war,
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在戰爭前夕於這間酒店會面,
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and I thought if I could flood them with faxes,
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我想,如果我可以用傳真淹沒他們,
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we'll stop the war.
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就可以阻止戰爭爆發。
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Well, unsurprisingly,
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然後,毫無意外地,
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that campaign was wholly unsuccessful.
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這運動徹徹底底地失敗了。
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There are lots of reasons for that,
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失敗的原因很多,
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but there's no doubt that one sputtering fax machine
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毫無疑問的是 一台拼命工作的傳真機,
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in Geneva was a little bit of a bandwidth constraint
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在日內瓦遇到頻寬限制
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in terms of the ability to get a message to lots of people.
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影響了它發送訊息給他人的能力。
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And so, I went on to discover some better tools.
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我繼續努力尋找新工具。
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I cofounded Avaaz, which uses the Internet to mobilize people
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我和 Avaaz 合作, 它們利用網絡做動員,
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and now has almost 40 million members,
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現在約有四千萬會員,
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and I now run Purpose, which is a home for these kinds of
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我現在經營「目的」網站,
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technology-powered movements.
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是一個運用科技力量 發起各種活動的大本營。
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So what's the moral of this story?
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這個故事有什麽寓意呢?
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Is the moral of this story,
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這故事的寓意在於,
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you know what, the fax is kind of eclipsed by the mobile phone?
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你們都知道傳真 被手機取代這件事嗎?
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This is another story of tech-determinism?
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又是一個技術決定論的故事嗎?
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Well, I would argue that there's actually more to it than that.
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我的觀點並不盡於此。
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I'd argue that in the last 20 years,
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我認為在過去的二十年裏,
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something more fundamental has changed
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有些基礎的東西在發生改變,
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than just new tech.
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而不僅僅是新科技。
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I would argue that there has been a fundamental shift
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我認為有一些基礎性的轉折
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in the balance of power
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發生在權力的平衡
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in the world.
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發生在世界上。
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You ask any activist how to understand the world,
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如果去問任何的活動家 要怎麽去理解這個世界。
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and they'll say, "Look at where the power is,
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他們會說:「觀察權力在那裡,
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who has it, how it's shifting."
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誰擁有權力,權力又如何轉換。」
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And I think we all sense that something big is happening.
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我想我們都能感覺到 世界正在發生大的改變。
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So Henry Timms and I —
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所以我與亨利·提姆士
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Henry's a fellow movement builder —
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亨利是創辦活動的伙伴
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got talking one day and we started to think,
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我們有天在討論中想到,
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how can we make sense of this new world?
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我們該怎麽理解這個新世界?
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How can we describe it and give
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怎樣描述這世界
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it a framework that makes it more useful?
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如何建立一個 更能發揮效用的架構?
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Because we realized that many
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因為我們認識到
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of the lessons that we were discovering in movements
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我們在運動中學到的教訓
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actually applied all over the world
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事實上適用於整個世界
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in many sectors of our society.
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和社會中的許多領域。
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So I want to introduce you to this framework:
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所以,我想向你們介紹這個架構:
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Old power, meet new power.
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新舊勢力相接。
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And I want to talk to you about what new power is today.
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我想告訴妳們 當今世界的新勢力是什麽。
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New power is the deployment
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新勢力就是規劃
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of mass participation and peer coordination —
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大眾參與和同伴協調
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these are the two key elements —
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是兩個關鍵要素
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to create change and shift outcomes.
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促進變革和改變事情的結果。
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And we see new power all around us.
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新勢力就在我們身邊。
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This is Beppe Grillo
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這位是畢普·格里羅
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he was a populist Italian blogger
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他是一個平民主義部落格主
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who, with a minimal political apparatus and only some online tools,
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只靠最少的政治支援 和上網工具,
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won more than 25 percent of the vote
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贏得超過 25% 的選票。
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in recent Italian elections.
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就發生在最近的意大利選舉。
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This is Airbnb,
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這是 Airbnb,
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which in just a few years
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在短短幾年中
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has radically disrupted the hotel industry
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徹底瓦解了飯店業
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without owning a single square foot of real estate.
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在不曾擁有土地資產的情況下。
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This is Kickstarter,
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這是 Kickstarter,
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which we know has raised over a billion dollars
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我們知道已經從五百万人以上的手中
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from more than five million people.
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募集超過十億美元。
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Now, we're familiar with all of these models.
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我們熟悉這些模式。
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But what's striking is the commonalities,
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但是真正讓人吃驚的是其共通性,
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the structural features of these new models
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新模式的結構特性
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and how they differ from old power.
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與舊勢力不同之處。
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Let's look a little bit at this.
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我們再仔細想想這個問題。
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Old power is held like a currency.
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舊勢力像貨幣流通。
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New power works like a current.
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新勢力則像電流。
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Old power is held by a few.
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舊勢力被少數人所掌握。
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New power isn't held by a few, it's made by many.
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而新勢力被許多人擁有。
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Old power is all about download,
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舊勢力是下載,
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and new power uploads.
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新勢力卻是上傳。
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And you see a whole set of characteristics that you can trace,
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你看到所有特點有跡可循,
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whether it's in media or politics or education.
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無論是在媒體,政治還是教育領域。
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So we've talked a little bit about what new power is.
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我們剛剛談論什麼是新勢力。
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Let's, for a second, talk about what new power isn't.
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再花一點時間來談談 新勢力不是什麼。
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New power is not your Facebook page.
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新勢力不是你的臉書專頁。
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I assure you that having a social media strategy
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我確信你有社交媒體戰略
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can enable you to do just as much download
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能夠使你由上而下執行策略
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as you used to do when you had the radio.
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就跟你過去使用廣播的策略一樣。
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Just ask Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad,
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只要問敘利亞獨裁者 巴沙爾·阿薩德你就知道了,
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I assure you that his Facebook page
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我保證他的臉書專頁
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has not embraced the power of participation.
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並沒有為他帶來大眾參與的力量。
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New power is not inherently positive.
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新力量不是天生樂觀。
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In fact, this isn't an normative argument that we're making,
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事實上,我們並沒有 在做規範的論證,
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there are many good things about new power,
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有許多關於新力量的好東西,
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but it can produce bad outcomes.
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但是它們可能導致不好的結果。
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More participation, more peer coordination,
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更多的參與,更多的對等協調,
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sometimes distorts outcomes
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有時候這會導致不好的結果
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and there are some things,
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還有一些,
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like things, for example, in the medical profession
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比如說,在醫療領域
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that we want new power to get nowhere near.
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不要讓新勢力涉入此領域。
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And thirdly, new power is not the inevitable victor.
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第三,新勢力不是一定會贏。
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In fact, unsurprisingly,
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事實上,毫無意外地,
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as many of these new power models get to scale,
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許多新勢力漸漸擴大規模,
07:25
what you see is this massive pushback
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你看到一股強大的阻力
07:28
from the forces of old power.
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來自舊勢力。
07:30
Just look at this really interesting epic struggle
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看看這個有趣的史詩性對抗
07:32
going on right now between Edward Snowden and the NSA.
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現在正發生的愛德華·史諾登 與美國國安局之間的恩怨。
07:36
You'll note that only one of the two people on this slide
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你會注意到兩方之中 只有一方
07:39
is currently in exile.
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流亡他鄉。
07:41
And so, it's not at all clear
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所以,這是一個令人懷疑的說法
07:42
that new power will be the inevitable victor.
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新勢力必定是贏家這個說法。
07:44
That said, keep one thing in mind:
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也就是說,有件事要記在心裡:
07:47
We're at the beginning of a very steep curve.
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我們正處在陡峻曲線的起點。
07:50
So you think about some of these new power models, right?
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你在思考一些新勢力的模式,對吧?
07:52
These were just like someone's
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這好像是某些人
07:54
garage idea a few years ago,
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幾年前他們在車庫的靈光一閃,
07:56
and now they're disrupting entire industries.
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現今它們正在顛覆 整個產業的商業模式。
08:00
And so, what's interesting about new power,
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新勢力有趣的地方,
08:02
is the way it feeds on itself.
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在於它自然形成的方式。
08:04
Once you have an experience of new power,
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一旦你有發展新勢力的經驗,
08:06
you tend to expect and want more of it.
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你會期望要求更多。
08:08
So let's say you've used a peer-to-peer lending platform
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若使用過平等借貸平台
08:11
like Lending Tree or Prosper,
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像是「 美國借貸俱樂部」 或是 「繁榮網站」,
08:14
then you've figured out that you don't need the bank,
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你會發現你不需要銀行,
08:16
and who wants the bank, right?
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誰還會使用銀行服務?
08:18
And so, that experience tends to embolden you
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這種經驗會使你更有勇氣
08:20
it tends to make you want more participation
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使你去更想要去參與
08:23
across more aspects of your life.
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體驗更多樣化人生。
08:26
And what this gives rise to is
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這會產生
08:27
a set of values.
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一套價值觀。
08:29
We talked about the models
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我們討論這個模式
08:30
that new power has engendered —
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新勢力模式引起
08:32
the Airbnbs, the Kickstarters.
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Airbnbs, Kickstarters 的價值觀。
08:34
What about the values?
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至於價值觀本身,
08:35
And this is an early sketch
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這是初步架構
08:37
at what new power values look like.
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新勢力所呈現的樣子。
08:39
New power values prize transparency above all else.
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新勢力把資訊透明 視為最重要的價值觀。
08:43
It's almost a religious belief in transparency,
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把資訊透明化看成是一種宗教信仰,
08:45
a belief that if you shine a light on something,
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它們相信只要透明化,
08:47
it will be better.
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事情就會變好。
08:48
And remember that in the 20th century, this was not at all true.
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要了解,在 20 世紀, 這一點也不適用。
08:51
People thought that gentlemen should sit behind closed doors
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人們認為紳士應關起門來
08:54
and make comfortable agreements.
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達成滿意的協議。
08:56
New power values of informal, networked governance.
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新勢力著重非正式形式,網路管理
09:00
New power folks would never have invented the U.N. today,
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當今的新勢力不會創立聯合國,
09:02
for better or worse.
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不論是好是壞。
09:04
New power values participation,
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新勢力重視參與,
09:06
and new power is all about do-it-yourself.
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新勢力自己動手做。
09:09
In fact, what's interesting about new power
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新勢力有趣的地方是
09:10
is that it eschews some of the professionalization
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避免專業化
09:14
and specialization that was
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和特殊化
09:15
all the rage in the 20th century.
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廣泛使用於 20 世紀。
09:18
So what's interesting about these
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這些有趣的
09:20
new power values and these new power models
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新勢力價值觀和新勢力的模式
09:22
is what they mean for organizations.
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是專為公司組織而設立的。
09:24
So we've spent a bit of time thinking,
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我們花了一些時間思考,
09:26
how can we plot organizations
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要如何規劃組織
09:29
on a two-by-two where, essentially,
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在二維的座標上,
09:31
we look at new power values
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我們觀察新勢力的價值觀
09:33
and new power models
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新勢力的模式
09:34
and see where different people sit?
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以及看到不同人所處的位置。
09:36
We started with a U.S. analysis,
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我們以美國的例子作分析,
09:38
and let me show you some interesting findings.
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我向各位展示一些有趣的事情。
09:40
So the first is Apple.
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第一個例子是「蘋果電腦」。
09:42
In this framework, we actually described Apple
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在這個架構上,我們事實上 將「蘋果電腦」
09:45
as an old power company.
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歸類為舊勢力公司。
09:47
That's because the ideology,
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因為公司的意識形態,
09:49
the governing ideology of Apple
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「蘋果電腦」的管理形式
09:51
is the ideology of the perfectionist
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是位於庫比蒂諾(加州)
09:54
product designer in Cupertino.
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完美主義產品設者的意識形態。
09:56
It's absolutely about that beautiful, perfect thing descending upon us
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產品絶對是出色完美, 完美的產品承襲
10:00
in perfection.
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我們完美的目標。
10:01
And it does not value, as a company, transparency.
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「蘋果電腦」沒有訊息透明的價值觀。
10:04
In fact, it's very secretive.
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事實上,「蘋果電腦」 對資訊相當保密。
10:06
Now, Apple is one of the most succesful companies in the world.
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當今,「蘋果電腦」 是世界上最成功公司之一。
10:08
So this shows that you can
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這意味著
10:10
still pursue a successful old power strategy.
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你可以追求成功的舊勢力策略。
10:12
But one can argue that there's real vulnerabilites in that model.
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有人會說這種模式相當脆弱。
10:15
I think another interesting comparison
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我有另外一個相對的例子
10:17
is that of the Obama campaign
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即歐巴馬競選活動
10:20
versus the Obama presidency.
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與歐巴馬執政的對比。
10:23
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
10:30
Now, I like President Obama,
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我喜歡歐巴馬總統,
10:32
but he ran with new power at his back, right?
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但他暗中行使新勢力,對吧?
10:36
And he said to people,
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他有說過,
10:38
we are the ones we've been waiting for.
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我們就是那些我們一直在等待的人。
10:40
And he used crowdfunding
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他用群眾募資的方式
10:41
to power a campaign.
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來擴大競選活動的勢力。
10:42
But when he got into office,
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當他選上總統,
10:44
he governed like more or less all the other presidents did.
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他的執政與其他總統 沒什麼差別。
10:47
And this is a really interesting trend,
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這是個有趣的趨勢,
10:49
is when new power gets powerful,
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當新勢力變得強大後,
10:51
what happens?
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會發生什麼?
10:53
So this is a framework you should look at
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所以這是你應該要去思考的架構
10:55
and think about where your own organization
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想看看你的組織
10:56
sits on it.
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在架構上所處的位置。
10:57
And think about where it should be
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想想看五年或十年內
10:59
in five or 10 years.
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它應該是在那一個位置。
11:00
So what do you do if you're old power?
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如果你的組織是舊勢力, 你該如何做?
11:03
Well, if you're there thinking, in old power,
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如果你身處舊勢力 並思忖著,
11:06
this won't happen to us.
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這不會發生在我身上。
11:08
Then just look at the Wikipedia entry for Encyclopædia Britannica.
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搜尋維基百科 「大英百科全書」。
11:13
Let me tell you, it's a very sad read.
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我告訴各位, 搜尋結果讓人感到難過。
11:15
But if you are old power,
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如果你的組織是舊勢力,
11:17
the most important thing you can do is to occupy yourself
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最重要,你必須做的是 佔有自己的職務
11:20
before others occupy you,
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在別人佔領你的職務之前,
11:23
before you are occupied.
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在你的職務被佔領之前。
11:24
Imagine that a group of your biggest skeptics
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想想看,有一群對組織最為質疑的人
11:27
are camped in the heart of your organization
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駐在你的組織的核心處
11:29
asking the toughest questions
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提出最尖銳的問題
11:31
and they can see everything inside of your organization.
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他們可以看透組織的一切。
11:34
And ask them, would they like what they see
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然後問他們, 是否喜歡所看到的現象
11:37
and should our model change?
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我們的模式是否需要改變?
11:39
What about if you're new power?
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如果你的組織是新勢力, 該做什麼?
11:41
Is new power kind of just riding the wave to glory?
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新勢力會是順勢直達目的地嗎?
11:44
I would argue no.
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我會說,不是的。
11:45
I would argue that there are some very real challenges
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我認為新勢力在初期階段
11:47
to new power in this nascent phase.
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存在一些真正的挑戰。
11:49
Let's stick with the Occupy Wall Street example for a moment.
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我們接著再花一點時間討論 佔領華爾街這個例子。
11:52
Occupy was this incredible example of new power,
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佔領是新勢力令人難以置信的例子,
11:55
the purest example of new power.
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這個佔領活動是新勢力最經典的例子。
11:57
And yet, it failed to consolidate.
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然而,這活動沒有團結一致。
12:00
So the energy that it created
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所以這活動產生
12:02
was great for the meme phase,
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對剛開始的模仿階段來說是重要的,
12:03
but they were so committed to participation,
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但他們太注重參與度,
12:06
that they never got anything done.
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以致於沒有成果。
12:08
And in fact that model
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事實上,這個模式
12:09
means that the challenge for new power is:
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對新勢力的挑戰是:
12:12
how do you use institutional power
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在組織制度尚未完整下
12:15
without being institutionalized?
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你如何發揮組織的力量?
12:17
One the other end of the spectra is Uber.
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另一個例子是「優步」。
12:19
Uber is an amazing,
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「優步」這公司令人訝異,
12:21
highly scalable new power model.
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有強大的新勢力。
12:23
That network is getting denser and denser
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服務網日復一日愈加嚴密。
12:25
by the day.
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12:26
But what's really interesting about Uber is
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但「優步」真正有趣的地方在於
12:28
it hasn't really adopted new power values.
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「優步」沒有真正採用 新勢力價值觀。
12:32
This is a real quote from the Uber CEO recently:
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以下是引用「優步」執行長 最近說的話:
12:36
He says, "Once we get rid of the dude in the car" — he means drivers —
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他說,一旦我們擺脫車子裡 這位講究衣著儀表的人,他指的是司機
12:41
"Uber will be cheaper."
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「優步」就便宜了。
12:44
Now, new power models live and die
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現在新勢力模式的生死
12:47
by the strength of their networks.
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取決於連繫網路是否綿密。
12:50
By whether the drivers and the consumers
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也取決於司機和顧客
12:51
who use the service actually believe in it.
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這些使用Uber的人的信賴。
12:54
Because they're not an exercise of top-down perfectionism,
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因為他們不是一個由上至下 完美主義的活動,
12:57
they are about the network.
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這是有關連繫網路。
12:59
And so, the challenge,
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因此,這個挑戰,
13:01
and this is why it's in no way surprising,
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一點也不令人感到訝異的是
13:03
is that Uber's drivers are now unionizing.
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「優步」的司機組成工會。
13:07
It's extraordinary.
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這真是非比尋常。
13:09
Uber's drivers are turning on Uber.
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「優步」的司機正在 對抗「優步」公司。
13:11
And the challenge for Uber —
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「優步」的挑戰
13:13
this isn't an easy situation for them —
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對他們來說是個不簡單的局面
13:15
is that they are locked into a broader superstrcuture
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他們被困在一個寬廣的上層結構
13:18
that is really old power.
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這其實是舊勢力。
13:20
They've raised more than a billion dollars in the capital markets.
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「優步」在資本市場 募得十億美金以上的資金。
13:23
Those markets expect a financial return,
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資本市場期待獲得財務回報,
13:25
and they way you get a financial return
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獲得財務回報的方式
13:27
is by squeezing and squeezing
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是不斷壓榨
13:29
your users and your drivers
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顧客和司機
13:32
for more and more value
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以獲得更多利潤
13:33
and giving that value to your investors.
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再將利潤轉到投資人手中。
13:35
So the big question about the future of new power, in my view, is:
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未來新勢力最大的問題 我的看法是:
13:39
Will that old power just emerge?
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舊勢力將會再現?
13:42
So will new power elites just become
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新勢力的精英將
13:43
old power and squeeze?
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變成舊勢力並壓榨他人嗎?
13:45
Or will that new power base bite back?
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或是新勢力被抑制?
13:48
Will the next big Uber
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下一個「優步」
13:50
be co-owned by Uber drivers?
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將會成為優步司機共同擁有?
13:52
And I think this going to be a very interesting
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我認為這將會是一個非常有趣
13:55
structural question.
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的結構上問題。
13:57
Finally, think about new power
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最後,新勢力
14:00
being more than just an
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不只是
14:02
entity that scales things
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組織規模的大小
14:04
that make us have slightly better consumer experiences.
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使我們有比較好的顧客使用經驗。
14:08
My call to action for new power
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我對新勢力的呼籲
14:10
is to not be an island.
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是不要孤立。
14:12
We have major structural problems in the world today
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我們面臨主要結構性的問題
14:15
that could benefit enormously
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能夠獲得巨大的利益
14:18
from the kinds of mass participation
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從廣泛的參與
14:20
and peer coordination
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和對等合作中獲得
14:21
that these new power players
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對新勢力的參與者來說
14:23
know so well how to generate.
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非常熟悉如何去執行。
14:25
And we badly need them to turn their energies and their power
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我們非常需要 將能量和勢力
14:29
to big, what economists might call
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移轉到經濟學家所說的
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public goods problems,
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一個重大的公共產品問題,
14:34
that are often beyond markets
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這些問題通常發生在市場之外
14:36
where investors can easily be found.
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這些地方容易找到投資者。
14:38
And I think if we can do that,
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我認為,如果我們能這麼做,
14:40
we might be able to fundamentally change
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我們或許可以從根本做改變
14:43
not only human beings' sense of their own agency and power —
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而不只是人類意識到自身能力
14:46
because I think that's the most wonderful thing about new power,
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因為我認為這是新勢力最好的事情,
14:49
is that people feel more powerful —
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就是讓人們感覺自己掌握更多權力
14:52
but we might also be able to change
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我們或許能夠改變
14:54
the way we relate to each other
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我們與他人的相處方式
14:55
and the way we relate to authority and institutions.
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與當權者和機構組織的相處方式。
14:59
And to me, that's absolutely
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對我而言,那是絕對值得去嘗試的
15:01
worth trying for.
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15:02
Thank you very much.
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謝謝各位。
15:03
(Applause)
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