Philip Howard: Four ways to fix a broken legal system

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I've always been interested in
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我一直对
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the relationship of formal structures and human behavior.
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关系的形态及人类行为很有兴趣。
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If you build a wide road out to the outskirts of town, people will move there.
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如果我们修好通往郊区一条宽阔的路,就会有居民迁移到那里。
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Well, law is also a powerful driver
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同样,法律也是一个强有力的
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of human behavior.
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人类行为驱动器。
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And what I'd like to discuss today
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我今天想讨论的
00:34
is the need to overhaul and simplify the law
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是整顿和简化法律的必要性,
00:37
to release the energy and passion
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以释放美国人民的能量与激情
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of Americans, so that we can begin
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这样我们才能着手
00:42
to address the challenges of our society.
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处理当前社会的各种挑战。
00:45
You might have noticed that law has grown
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你可以已经感觉到
00:48
progressively denser in your lives over the last decade or two.
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在过去的一二十年里你的生活渐渐被法律所笼罩。
00:51
If you run a business, it's hard to do much of anything
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如果你经商
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without calling your general counsel.
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若不咨询法律顾问,你将举步维艰。
00:57
Indeed, there is this phenomenon now
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现在确实就是这么一种状况:
00:59
where the general counsels are becoming the CEOs.
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法律顾问成为了CEO
01:02
It's a little bit like the Invasion Of The Body Snatchers.
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这有点像外星人入侵。
01:05
You need a lawyer to run the company,
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你需要一个律师经营企业。
01:07
because there's so much law.
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因为法律太多了。
01:09
But it's not just business that's affected by this,
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但不仅仅是商业受到这样的影响。
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it's actually pressed down into the daily activities
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它实际上已经蔓延到
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of ordinary people.
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人民群众的日常生活中。
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A couple of years ago I was hiking near Cody, Wyoming.
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几年前我在怀俄明州科迪徒步旅行。
01:20
It was in a grizzly bear preserve,
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那是在一个白熊保护区,
01:22
although no one told me that before we went.
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但去之前没人告诉我这些。
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And our guide was a local science teacher.
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我们的导游是当地的一位教师。
01:28
She was wholly unconcerned about the bears,
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她与这些熊毫无关联,
01:30
but she was terrified of lawyers.
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但她非常害怕律师。
01:33
The stories started pouring out.
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故事的倾诉由此开始。
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She'd just been involved in an episode where a parent
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她刚刚卷入一场
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had threatened to sue the school
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家长威胁要控告学校的纠纷中
01:40
because she lowered the grade of the student by 10 percent
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是因为她给一位学生降低了10%的分数,
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when he turned the paper in late.
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因为他不按时交卷。
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The principal didn't want to stand up to the parent
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校长不想与家长作对
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because he didn't want to get dragged into some legal proceedings.
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因为他不愿意陷入法律诉讼程序。
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So, she had to go to meeting after meeting, same arguments made
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因此,她只好参加一个接一个的会议,
01:51
over and over again.
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同样的论述重复了一遍又一遍。
01:53
After 30 days of sleepless nights, she finally capitulated
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经过长达30天的无眠之夜之后,她最终选择了投降,
01:56
and raised the grade.
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并上调了分数。
01:58
She said, "Life's too short, I just can't keep going with this."
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她说,“生命如此短暂,我不能纠结在这里。”
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About the same time, she was going to take two students to a leadership conference
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与此同时,她要带两个学生出席一个领导力会议,
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in Laramie, which is a couple of hours away,
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位于几小时车程开外的拉勒米(Laramie),
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and she was going to drive them in her car,
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她本打算用自己的车送他们去,
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but the school said, "No, you can't drive them in the car
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但学校却说,"不,出于责权考虑,
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for liability reasons.
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你不能用自己的车送他们。
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You have to go in a school bus."
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必须乘坐学校校车。“
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So, they provided a bus that held 60 people
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为此,动用了一辆可载60人的巴士
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and drove the three of them back and forth
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花几小时送他们三人
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several hours to Laramie.
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往返Laramie(拉勒米)。
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Her husband is also a science teacher,
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他丈夫也是一位理科教师,
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and he takes his biology class on a hike
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他经常带着他的生物课班学生
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in the nearby national park.
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去国家公园附近徒步旅行。
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But he was told he couldn't go on the hike this year
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但他被告知今年不能组织登山,
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because one of the students in the class was disabled,
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因为他班里有一个学生是残疾人,
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so the other 25 students didn't get to go on the hike either.
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其他的25个学生也不能参加登山活动了。
02:40
At the end of this day I could have filled a book
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在这天结束时我可以出一本
02:43
just with stories about law
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来源于这位教师
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from this one teacher.
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的法律故事书。
02:47
Now, we've been taught to believe that law
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现在,我们已经被教唆相信
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is the foundation of freedom.
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法律是自由的基础。
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But somehow or another, in the last couple of decades,
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但因种种原因在过去几十年
02:54
the land of the free has become a legal minefield.
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我们的自由国度已成为一片法律雷区。
02:58
It's really changed our lives in ways
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它已经以
03:01
that are sort of imperceptible;
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某种不知不觉的方式改变了我们的生活。
03:03
and yet, when you pull back, you see it all the time.
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当你回想起来,你始终可以看到这一点。
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It's changed the way we talk. I was talking to a
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它改变了我们谈话的方式。我曾经和一位
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pediatrician friend
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在北卡罗利纳的儿科医生朋友谈话。
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in North Carolina. He said,
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他说,
03:11
"Well you know, I don't deal with patients the same way anymore.
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“你知道的,我再也不想以前那样和病人打交道了,
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You wouldn't want to say something off-the-cuff
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你不会愿意从你口中说出的话
03:17
that might be used against you."
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被他们用来起诉你的理由。“
03:20
This is a doctor, whose life is caring for people.
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这是一位医生,他的使命是照顾人们。
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My own law firm has a list of questions
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我组件的律师事务所有一个
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that I'm not allowed to ask
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与候选者交谈时不允许涉及的
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when interviewing candidates,
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问题列表。
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such as the sinister question,
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比如不吉利的问题,
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bulging with hidden motives and innuendo,
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凸显隐藏的动机和讥讽,
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"Where are you from?"
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诸如“你来自哪里?”
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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Now for 20 years, tort reformers have been sounding the alarm
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在过去的20年中,民事侵权行为改革人士已经敲响了
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that lawsuits are out of control.
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法律失控的警钟。
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And we read every once in while
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并且我们每次读到
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about these crazy lawsuits, like the guy
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这些疯狂的起诉故事的时候,
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in the District of Columbia who sued his dry cleaners for 54 million dollars
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就像哥伦比亚区的那位起诉他的清洁工获得5千4百万美元
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because they lost his pair of pants.
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因为他们使去了他的一条裤子。
03:56
The case went on for two years; I think he's still appealing the case.
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这个案子是两年了,我觉得他还在上诉这个案子。
03:59
But the reality is, these crazy cases
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但现实是,这些疯狂的案子是相对来讲很少的。
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are relatively rare. They don't usually win.
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它们一般不会胜诉。
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And the total of direct tort cost
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因为美国的直接侵权行为的总成本
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in this country is about two percent,
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大概有两个百分点,
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which is twice as much as in other countries
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是其它国家的两倍。
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but, as taxes go, hardly crippling.
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但是,随着税收的严重削减。
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But the direct costs are really only the tip of the iceberg.
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直接成本实际上只是冰山一角。
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What's happened here, again,
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这里曾经发生的,
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almost without our knowing,
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几乎无需我们知道,
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is our culture has changed.
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我们的文化已经改变。
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People no longer feel free
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人们已经在做他们最好的判断时
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to act on their best judgment.
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已经不再感觉到自由了。
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So, what do we do about it?
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那么,我们要怎么改变它?
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We certainly don't want to give up the rights,
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我们当然不愿意放弃权力,
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when people do something wrong, to seek redress in the courts.
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当人们做错事的时候,去法庭寻求公正。
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We need regulation to make sure
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我们需要监管来确保人们不去污染
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people don't pollute and such.
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或者做之类的坏事儿。
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We lack even a vocabulary to deal with
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我们甚至没有一个词汇来形容
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this problem,
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这个问题。
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and that's because we have the wrong frame of reference.
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那是因为我们现在有错误的参考体系。
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We've been trained to think that the way to look at every dispute,
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我们已经被训练成研究每个争端,每个问题
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every issue, is a matter of kind of individual rights.
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是一种个人权益的问题。
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And so we peer through a legal microscope, and look at everything.
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我们通过法律的放大镜去研究每件事。
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Is it possible that there are extenuating circumstances
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有没有可能有其它的情况
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that explain why Johnny
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来解释怀俄明州的强尼
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turned his paper in late in Cody, Wyoming?
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把他的遗书上交如此晚?
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Is it possible that the doctor
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有没有可能让医生去做一些别的事情来
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might have done something differently when the sick person gets sicker?
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不让病人变的更严重。
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And of course the hindsight bias is perfect.
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当然有事后聪明马后炮的。
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There's always a different scenario that you can sketch out
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当然你总是可以轻松讲一些不同的场景
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where it's possible that something could have been done differently.
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不同事情本来应该能完成的更好一些。
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And yet, we've been trained to squint into this legal microscope,
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但我们已经习惯了眯着眼睛拿着法律的放大镜
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hoping that we can judge any dispute
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希望我们用一个完美社会的标准来
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against the standard of a perfect society,
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判断任何标准。
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where everyone will agree what's fair,
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一个任何人都同意的,公平的
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and where accidents will be extinct,
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不存在偶然事件的
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risk will be no more.
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没有风险的标准。
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Of course, this is Utopia;
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这当然是乌托帮了,
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it's a formula for paralysis, not freedom.
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这是一个瘫痪的,不自由的公式。
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It's not the basis of the rule of law,
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这不是法律的基石,
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it's not the basis of a free society.
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也不是自由社会的基石。
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So, now I have the first of four propositions
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所以,我们来看四大建议的第一个,
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I'm going to leave with you about how you simplify the law:
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我会告诉你你怎么样简化法律。
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You've got to judge law mainly
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你判断法律主要是
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by its effect on the broader society,
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根据它对大社会产生的影响,
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not individual disputes.
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而不是个案纠纷。
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Absolutely vital.
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绝对至关重要。
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So, let's pull back from the anecdotes for a second
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那么,我们再看一条轶事
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and look at our society from high above.
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并且研究一下我们的上层社会。
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Is it working?
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这好使吗?
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What does the macro-data show us?
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宏数据会告诉我们什么?
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Well, the healthcare system has been transformed:
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医疗系统已经完成改革。
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a culture pervaded with defensiveness,
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一个弥漫着自我防守气息的文化。
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universal distrust of the system of justice,
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对系统公正性的普遍不信任。
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universal practice of defensive medicine.
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自我保护性开一些常用药物的处方。
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It's very hard to measure
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衡量这些真的不容易
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because there are mixed motives.
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因为混合的动机太多了。
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Doctors can make more on ordering tests sometimes,
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医生可以花更多的时候在排序测试上。
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and also they no longer even know what's right or wrong.
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并且他们不再知道什么是对的或者错的
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But reliable estimates
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但保守估计
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range between 60 billion and
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会在600亿到2000亿美元的范围
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200 billion dollars per year.
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每年。
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That's enough to provide care to all the people
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这些钱足够给美国境内所有没有医疗保险的人
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in America who don't have it.
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提供免费治疗了。
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The trial lawyers say, "Well, this legal fear
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审判法官说,“对法律的担心
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makes doctors practice better medicine."
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使医生们采用更好的药物。“
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Well that's been studied too, by the Institute of Medicine
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那已经是药品研究所和其它机构的研究成果。
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and others. Turns out that's not the case.
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但这不是重点。
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The fear has chilled professional interaction
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恐惧在专业交互中变的更糟糕,
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so thousands of tragic errors occur
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因此数以千计的杯具发生,
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because doctors are afraid
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因为医生害怕多说话:
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to speak up: "Are you sure that's the right dosage?"
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“你确定这是正确的剂量吗?”
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Because they're not sure,
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因为他们不确定,
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and they don't want to take legal responsibility.
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并且他们不想担负法律责任。
07:14
Let's go to schools.
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让我们去学校吧。
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As we saw with the teacher in Cody, Wyoming,
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就像我们看到的怀俄明州的那位老师一样,
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she seems to be affected by the law.
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她看起来深受法律影响。
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Well it turns out the schools are literally drowning in law.
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这表明学校简直在法律的海洋里溺死了。
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You could have a separate section of a law library
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你可以在法律图书馆按以下法律概念
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around each of the following legal concepts:
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找到单独的一个区域。
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due process, special education,
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正当程序,特殊教育,
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no child left behind,
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不让一个孩子掉队法案,
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zero tolerance, work rules ...
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零容忍,工作守则。
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it goes on. We did a study
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它继续发展。
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of all the rules that affect one school
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我们在纽约对关于所有对学校产生影响的法律
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in New York. The Board of Ed. had no idea.
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做了一个调查。 教育委员会对此并不知情。
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Tens of thousands of discreet rules,
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数十万讲的慎密的条规,
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60 steps to suspend a student from school:
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一个孩子休学需要60个步骤。
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It's a formula for paralysis.
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这是个让人瘫痪的公式。
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What's the effect of that? One is a decline in order.
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结果是什么?其中之一是效率的下降。
07:57
Again, studies have shown
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另外,研究表明
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it's directly attributable
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它直接归咎于
08:01
to the rise of due process.
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正当程序的提升。
08:03
Public agenda did a survey for us a couple of years ago
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公众议程在几年前做了一个调查
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where they found that 43 percent of the high school teachers in America
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美国境内43%的高中老师
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say that they spend at least half of their time
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说他们花了至少一半的时间
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maintaining order in the classroom.
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来维护课堂秩序。
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That means those students are getting half the learning
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这表明这些学生只用了他们规定学习时间的一半,
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they're supposed to, because if one child is disrupting the class
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因为如果一个孩子扰乱课堂秩序,
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no one can learn.
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谁也学不成。
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And what happens when the teacher tries to assert order?
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那么老师在试图维护课程秩序的时候会发生什么呢?
08:27
They're threatened with a legal claim.
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他们被一个法律要求所威胁。
08:29
We also surveyed that. Seventy-eight percent of the middle and high school teachers
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我们还做了调查。美国境内的78%的高中或初中老师
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in America have been threatened by their students
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都被他们的学生
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with violating their rights, with lawsuits
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用侵权起诉来威胁过。
08:37
by their students. They are threatening, their students.
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他们威胁他们的学生。
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It's not that they usually sue,
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他们并不是经常起诉。
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it's not that they would win, but it's an
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他们并不是一定会赢,
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indication of the corrosion of authority.
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但这是权威的瓦解的迹象。
08:48
And how has this system of law worked for government?
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那么这套法律系统是怎么为政府运作的呢?
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It doesn't seem to be working very well does it?
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它的运作情况看起来并不是很好,不是吗?
08:54
Neither in Sacramento nor in Washington.
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在萨克拉门托和华盛顿都很不好。
08:57
The other day at the State of the Union speech,
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在另一天的发表的国情咨文中
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President Obama said,
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总统奥巴马说,
09:01
and I think we could all agree with this goal,
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我想我们都有这个共同的目标,
09:03
"From the first railroads to the interstate highway system,
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“从第一条铁路,到现在的州际高铁,
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our nation has always been the first to compete.
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我们的国家总是第一个完成这样的项目。
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There is no reason Europe or China should have the fastest trains."
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没有理由让欧洲和中国拥有世界上最快的火车."
09:14
Well, actually there is a reason:
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事实上确实有一个理由,
09:16
Environmental review has evolved into a process
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环境检查已经上升到标准流程中
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of no pebble left unturned
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十年中的任何主要的工程
09:21
for any major project taking the better part of a decade,
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都千方百计的通过环境检查。
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then followed by years of litigation
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然后是面对那些不喜欢这个项目的人,
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by anybody who doesn't like the project.
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度过数年的诉讼岁月。
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Then, just staying above the Earth for one more second,
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然后,在地球上多呆一秒钟,
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people are acting like idiots,
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人们就表演的像傻蛋一样,
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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all across the country.
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全国人民都一样。
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(Applause)
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(掌声)
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Idiots. A couple of years ago,
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傻蛋。 几年之前,
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Broward County, Florida, banned running at recess.
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佛罗里达州布罗瓦郡,颁布法律禁止在休息时间跑动。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
09:48
That means all the boys are going to be ADD.
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那意味着所有的男孩子们都会得多动症。
09:51
I mean it's just absolutely
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我觉得这绝对是一个
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a formula for failure.
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失败的公式。
09:55
My favorite, though, are all the warning labels.
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我最喜欢讲的,是那些警告标签。
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"Caution: Contents are hot,"
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警告,这些东西非常烫,
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on billions of coffee cups.
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数亿杯咖啡的杯子上。
10:01
Archeologists will dig us up in a thousand years
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考古学家想在一千年后把我们挖出来
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and they won't know about defensive medicine and stuff,
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并且他们将不知道这些自我保护性的药品和口号,
10:07
but they'll see all these labels, "Contents are extremely hot."
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但他们会看到这些警告,这些东西超级Hot"烫"。
10:10
They'll think it was some kind of aphrodisiac.
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他们会认为这是某种春药。
10:12
That's the only explanation. Because why
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这是杯子上的唯一的解释。
10:15
would you have to tell people that something was actually hot?
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因为你唯一要告诉别人的是什么东西非常非常的Hot”热“。
10:18
My favorite warning was one on a five-inch fishing lure.
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我喜欢的一个警告是五英寸的鱼铒。
10:21
I grew up in the South and whiled away the summers fishing.
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我长在南方并且每年夏天都要钓鱼。
10:24
Five-inch fishing lure, it's a big fishing lure,
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五英寸的鱼铒,这是相当大的鱼饵,
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with a three pronged hook in the back,
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后面带着一个三叉钩,
10:28
and outside it said, "Harmful if swallowed."
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但在外面它说,“吞食有害健康。”
10:31
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
10:38
So, none of these people
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所以,没有人去这样做
10:40
are doing what they think is right.
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他们认为正确的事情。
10:42
And why not? They don't trust the law. Why don't they trust the law?
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那为为什么不?他们不信任法律。他们为什么不信任法律?
10:44
Because it gives us the worst of both worlds:
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因为法律给我们最坏的两种世界。
10:46
It's random -- anybody can sue for almost anything
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它随机。任何人可以起诉几乎是任何东西
10:49
and take it to a jury, not even an effort at consistency --
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并且让它受伤。甚至没有一个一致性。
10:52
and it's also too detailed.
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并且它太详尽了。
10:54
In the areas that are regulated, there are so many rules
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在被法律规范的区域里,
10:57
no human could possibly know it.
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有太多的人类不可能理解的规定。
10:59
Well how do you fix it? We could spend 10,000 lifetimes
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那么你怎么弥补呢?我们可以花1万人一生的时间来
11:01
trying to prune this legal jungle.
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尝试修剪这个热带雨森般复杂的法律。
11:03
But the challenge here is not one of just
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但真正的挑战不是仅仅的去
11:06
amending the law,
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修正法律。
11:08
because the hurdle for success is trust.
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因为成功的最本质原因是信任。
11:12
People -- for law to be the platform for freedom,
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人们,在法律的范围内追寻自由,
11:16
people have to trust it.
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人们必须信任它。
11:19
So, that's my second proposition:
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所以,这是我第二个建议。
11:21
Trust is an essential condition
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信任是自由社会的一个
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to a free society.
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关键的条件。
11:26
Life is complicated enough without legal fear.
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即使除去对法律的恐惧的生活已经够复杂了。
11:29
But law is different than other kinds of uncertainties,
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但法律又是不同于其它不确定因素。
11:31
because it carries with it the power of state.
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因为它象征着国家权利。
11:34
And so the state can come in.
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所以国家可以站出来。
11:36
It actually changes the way people think.
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它实际上改变了人们的思考方式。
11:39
It's like having a little lawyer on your shoulders
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就像是有一个小律师站在你的肩膀,
11:42
all day long, whispering in your ear,
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整天对着你的耳朵窃窃私语,
11:44
"Could that go wrong? Might that go wrong?"
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“这个会出问题吗? 那个可能有问题吗?”
11:46
It drives people from the smart part of the brain --
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它能在很多方面,
11:50
that dark, deep well of the subconscious,
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从很深的潜意识层次,
11:53
where instincts and experience,
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从本能上和经验上,
11:55
and all the other factors of creativity
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以及创新能力上或者判断力上,
11:58
and good judgment are --
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把人们非常聪明伶利变的因阴暗,
12:00
it drives us to the thin veneer of conscious logic.
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它会驱使我们带个意识逻辑的外表。
12:03
Pretty soon the doctor's saying, "Well, I doubt
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过些时间医生会说,“好吧,
12:05
if that headache could be a tumor, but who would protect me
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我怀疑这个头疼可能是一个肿瘤,但如果是,谁会保护我呢?
12:07
if it were? So maybe I'll just order the MRI."
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那么我就让他去做个磁共振(MRI)好了。
12:10
Then you've wasted 200 billion dollars in unnecessary tests.
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所以,你已经在不必要的测试上浪费了2000亿美金。
12:14
If you make people self-conscious
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如果你让你人们去做判断,
12:17
about their judgments, studies show
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研究表明
12:19
you will make them make worse judgments.
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你会让他们做更糟糕的判断。
12:22
If you tell the pianist to think about how she's hitting the notes
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如果你告诉钢琴师当他们演奏时,让他们去考虑自己是如果敲击乐符的,
12:26
when she's playing the piece, she can't play the piece.
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她们就无法演奏下去了。
12:30
Self-consciousness is the enemy of accomplishment.
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自我意识是完成目标的敌人。
12:33
Edison stated it best. He said,
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爱迪生就是最好的例子。 他说,
12:35
"Hell, we ain't got no rules around here,
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"该列,我们这里不要任何规则,
12:37
we're trying to accomplish something."
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我们想真正做点实事儿。
12:39
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
12:41
So, how do you restore trust?
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所以,怎么才能恢复信任?
12:42
Tweaking the law's clearly not good enough,
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改进我们的法律很显然已经不够了。
12:44
and tort reform, which is a great idea,
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改革侵权行为是一个特别好的主意。
12:47
lowers your cost if you're a businessperson,
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可以降低商人的成本,
12:49
but it's like a Band-Aid on this gaping wound of distrust.
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但像是一个急救绷带打在一个不信任的伤口上。
12:52
States with extensive tort reform
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一个有着大量侵权行为改革的国家
12:54
still suffer all these pathologies.
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仍然遭受着这些病因。
12:56
So, what's needed is not just to limit claims,
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所以,我们需要的不仅是有限的声明,
12:59
but actually create a dry ground of freedom.
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而是真正的去创造一片自由之域。
13:02
It turns out that freedom actually has a formal structure.
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这样的结果就是自由实际上是一个正式的结构。
13:06
And it is this:
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并且它是这样:
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Law sets boundaries,
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法律制定界限,
13:10
and on one side of those boundaries are all the things
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一方面这些界限是所有你不能做的东西
13:12
you can't do or must do --
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或者必须做的东西。
13:14
you can't steal, you've got to pay your taxes --
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你不能偷。 你必须缴税。
13:15
but those same boundaries are supposed to define
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但这相同的边界本应该去定义和保护
13:18
and protect a dry ground of freedom.
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自由之域。
13:22
Isaiah Berlin put it this way:
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以赛亚·柏林这么认为,
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"Law sets frontiers, not artificially drawn,
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“法律制定边境,不是人工画出来的,
13:27
within which men shall be inviolable."
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那就是人们应该是不可侵犯的。”
13:31
We've forgotten that second part.
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我们已经忘记了第二部份。
13:33
Those dikes have burst. People wade through law
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像决堤的大坝一样。 人们在法律的世界里跋山涉水呀
13:36
all day long.
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日复一日。
13:38
So, what's needed now
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那么,我们现在要做的
13:40
is to rebuild these boundaries.
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就是重新定义这些边界。
13:43
And it's especially important to rebuild them
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并且对重新定义它们对于法律诉讼
13:45
for lawsuits.
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有着很重要的意义。
13:47
Because what people can sue for establishes the boundaries
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因为人们可以起诉的那些边界
13:50
for everybody else's freedom.
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是别人的自由。
13:52
If someone brings a lawsuit over, "A kid fell off the seesaw,"
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如果有人诉讼,一个孩子在跷跷板上摔下来了,
13:55
it doesn't matter what happens in the lawsuit,
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不管诉讼的结果如何,
13:57
all the seesaws will disappear.
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所有的跷跷板都会消失掉。
13:59
Because no one will want to take the risk of a lawsuit.
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因为没有人愿意担着被起诉的危险。
14:01
And that's what's happened. There are no seesaws, jungle gyms,
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这就是这个世界。 将不在会有跷跷板,攀登架,
14:03
merry-go-rounds, climbing ropes,
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旋转木马,攀登绳,
14:05
nothing that would interest a kid over the age of four,
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大于四岁的孩子们将不再会有乐趣,
14:08
because there's no risk associated with it.
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因为他们的世界没有任何风险。
14:10
So, how do we rebuild it?
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那么,我们如何重新打造它?
14:12
Life is too complex for...
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生命已经太复杂而…
14:14
(Applause)
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(掌声)
14:19
Life is too complex for a software program.
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生命过于复杂了而非一个软件程序能涵盖的。
14:21
All these choices involve value judgments
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所有的这些选择都包含价值判断,
14:23
and social norms, not objective facts.
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和社会规范,而不是客观事实。
14:26
And so here is the fourth proposition.
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那么这里我的第四个建议。
14:29
This is what we have, the philosophy we have to change to.
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这是我们拥有的,我们不得不接受的哲学。
14:31
And there are two essential elements of it:
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并且它的两个关键的元素。
14:34
We have to simplify the law.
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我们不得不简化这个法律。
14:37
We have to migrate from all this complexity
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我们不得不从这些复杂的东西转换成
14:40
towards general principles and goals.
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总体的原则和目标。
14:42
The constitution is only 16 pages long.
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宪法只有16页长。
14:45
Worked pretty well for 200 years.
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已经完美运作了快两百年。
14:47
Law has to be simple enough
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法律必须足够简单
14:49
so that people can internalize it
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所以人们可以进行内部消化
14:52
in their daily choices.
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真正运用在他们的日常生活中。
14:54
If they can't internalize it, they won't trust it.
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如果不能真正把它们内部消化,他们也不会信任它。
14:58
And how do you make it simple?
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那么,怎么才能让它变的更简单一些?
15:00
Because life is complex,
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因为人生是复杂的。
15:02
and here is the hardest and biggest change:
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那么,这里是最难也是最大的改变。
15:05
We have to restore the authority
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我们必须恢复当局对审判
15:07
to judges and officials
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以及官方
15:09
to interpret and apply the law.
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对法律的诠释的权力。
15:11
(Applause)
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(掌声)
15:14
We have to rehumanize the law.
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我们必须把法律重新人道化。
15:17
To make law simple so that you feel free,
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将法律变的更简单,因此你会感觉更自由,
15:20
the people in charge have to be free
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当权的人必须能自由的用他们的判断来
15:22
to use their judgment to interpret and apply the law
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诠释和执行法律
15:25
in accord with reasonable social norms.
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与合理的社会标准保持一致。
15:27
As you're going down, and walking down the sidewalk during the day,
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你在大白天的大马路上散步
15:31
you have to think that if there is a dispute,
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你必须知道,如果那里有争端出现,
15:34
there's somebody in society who sees it as their job
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如果你的行为合理,
15:38
to affirmatively protect you
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这个社会上应该有人去当成本质工作去
15:40
if you're acting reasonably.
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保护你。
15:42
That person doesn't exist today.
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我们现在没有这个角色。
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This is the hardest hurdle.
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这是最难克服的障碍。
15:48
It's actually not very hard. Ninety-eight percent of cases, this is a piece of cake.
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实际上,它不难。98%的案例都是小菜一碟。
15:51
Maybe you've got a claim in small claims court
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也许你接到小法庭的一个索赔,
15:53
for your lost pair of pants for $100,
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你丢了一条一百美元的裤子。
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but not in a court of general jurisdiction for millions of dollars.
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但不是在一个高级司法权的大法庭上的价值百万的案子。
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Case dismissed without prejudice or refiling in small claims court.
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案例在小法庭上没有偏倚被取消。
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Takes five minutes. That's it,
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五分钟搞定。就这样。
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it's not that hard.
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这并不难。
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But it's a hard hurdle because we got into this legal quicksand
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但难点在于我们已经陷入了法律流沙中
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because we woke up in the 1960s
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因为我们在六十年代唤醒了这些
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to all these really bad values: racism,
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特别邪恶的价值观,种族主义,
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gender discrimination, pollution --
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性别歧视,污染。
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they were bad values. And we wanted to create a legal system
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这些是很邪恶的价值观。并且我们希望创造一个法律系统,
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where no one could have bad values anymore.
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一个人们不再能抱有邪恶价值观的法律系统。
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The problem is, we created a system
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问题是,我们创造了这个系统,
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where we eliminated the right to have good values.
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一个我们把好的价值观也消灭掉的法律系统。
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It doesn't mean that people in authority
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这并不是说当局可以为所欲为。
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can do whatever they want.
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这并不是说当局可以为所欲为。
16:32
They're still bounded by legal goals and principles:
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他们仍然被法律的目标和原则所界定。
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The teacher is accountable to the principal,
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老师对原则负责。
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the judge is accountable to an appellate court,
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法官对上诉法院负责。
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the president is accountable to voters.
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总统对选民负责
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But the accountability's up the line
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但是责任感可以上升到
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judging the decision against the effect on everybody,
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对这个决定对每个人产生的影响来判断。
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not just on the disgruntled person.
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而对于不爽的那个人的影响。
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You can't run a society by the lowest common denominator.
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你不能用最低标准去运行一个社会。
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(Applause)
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(掌声)
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So, what's needed is a basic shift in philosophy.
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那么,我们要做的哲学上的一个基本转化。
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We can pull the plug on a lot of this stuff if we shift our philosophy.
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如果我们转换自己的哲学,我们可以减少很多这样的问题。
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We've been taught that authority is the enemy of freedom.
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我们被教唆的是权威是自由的敌人。
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It's not true. Authority, in fact,
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那是瞎话。事实上,
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is essential to freedom.
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权威是自由的关键。
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Law is a human institution;
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法律是一种人类习俗。
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responsibility is a human institution.
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责任感是一种人类习俗。
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If teachers don't have authority to run the classroom,
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如果老师并没有权威去管理教室,
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to maintain order, everybody's learning suffers.
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去维护秩序,每个人的学习。
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If the judge doesn't have the authority to toss out unreasonable claims,
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如果法官没有权利去拒绝不合理的上诉
17:26
then all of us go through the day looking over our shoulders.
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那么我们会整天心惊胆战。
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If the environmental agency can't decide
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如果环境部门不能决定
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that the power lines are good for the environment,
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哪种电线对环境有利,
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then there's no way to bring the power from the wind farms
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那么我们就没办法将电从风力电站
17:35
to the city.
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输送到城市。
17:37
A free society requires red lights and green lights,
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一个自由的社会一定要有红灯也有绿灯,
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otherwise it soon descends into gridlock.
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否则很快就会交通拥堵。
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That's what's happened to America. Look around.
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这就是美国的现状。 四处看看吧。
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What the world needs now
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我们的世界需要的是,
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is to restore the authority to make common choices.
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恢复机构应该有做选择的权利。
17:51
It's the only way to get our freedom back,
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这是我们夺回自由的唯一的方法。
17:55
and it's the only way to release the energy and passion
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这也是我们唯一需要释放能量和激情的地方
17:58
needed so that we can meet the challenges
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来克服我们的时代面临的挑战。
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of our time. Thank you.
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谢谢你们。
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(Applause)
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(掌声)
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