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翻译人员: jacks peng
校对人员: Wei Wu
00:12
Well, I have known
many alpha males in my life,
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我这一生见识过很多雄性头领,
00:16
chimpanzee alpha males,
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黑猩猩当中的雄性头领,
00:19
and I'm going to talk
about what an alpha male is,
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我将会谈何为雄性领袖,
00:22
because I think we can all learn
a lot from our close relatives
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因为我觉得可以从我们的近亲那学到很多,
00:26
where we have alpha males.
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我们也有雄性领袖。
00:28
And as an example, I want to give you
Amos, a male that I knew
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给你们举个例子,我认识一只叫阿莫的雄性黑猩猩,
00:33
who was a young male
and he was alpha male,
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他是一个年轻的雄性头领,
00:35
he was very popular,
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他非常受欢迎,
00:36
but he got sick
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但后来他病了
00:38
and he lost his position because,
you know, chimpanzee males
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并失去了他的地位。
00:42
they can spot from a mile away
if you are weak
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如果你变虚弱了,其他雄性黑猩猩一眼就可以看出来。
00:44
and they went for him,
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于是,阿莫遭到群体的质疑,
00:46
and he lost his position,
and then he got sicker and sicker
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因此失去了地位,并病得越来越重。
00:49
until at some point we had to isolate him.
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直到最后,我们不得不把他隔离起来。
00:52
The group lived on a grassy island,
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这群黑猩猩生活在一个长满草的岛上,
00:56
and we had to isolate him in a cage,
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我们不得不用笼子把他隔离起来,
00:58
but we cracked open the cage
so that the rest of the chimps
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但是我们把笼子开了一个口,
01:01
still had access to him.
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所以其他的黑猩猩可以来探望他。
01:02
And what happened was most touching.
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接下来发生的事情十分感人。
01:04
Other chimps would bring food to him,
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其他黑猩猩会带食物给阿莫,
01:07
they would bring wood wool to him,
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还会带木屑给他,
01:09
which is this thing that they use
to sleep in and build nests out of,
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木屑是他们睡觉时做垫子和造窝用的材料,
01:13
and females would put
the wood wool behind his back.
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雌性黑猩猩会把木屑垫在阿莫的背后,
01:16
He was leaning heavily against the wall,
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阿莫紧紧地靠着墙,
01:18
and the way we do with pillows
to patients in a hospital,
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就像在医院里,我们把枕头垫在病人背后一样,
01:22
they were putting
that stuff behind his back.
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他们也用同样的方式把木屑垫在阿莫的背上。
01:24
And I thought, this is the way
to go for an alpha male.
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我开始觉得这就是拥护雄性领袖的方式。
01:28
He was loved and respected,
and everyone was taking care of him,
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他受到大家的爱戴与尊敬并且得到照料,
01:32
and this is not always how it goes,
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但并不是所有的雄性领袖都有这样的待遇,
01:33
because some males don't end so well
when they lose their position.
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因为有些雄性领袖失去地位的时,他们下场可不好。
01:37
So Amos was an example
of a male who was liked as a leader,
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所以,阿莫是一个受人爱戴的雄性领袖的例子,
01:42
and I think the term alpha male,
if you look it up on the internet,
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如果你上网查“雄性领袖”这个词,
01:46
you will find all these business books
that tell you how to be an alpha male,
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你会发现一堆教你如何成为一个雄性领袖的商业书籍,
01:49
and what they mean
is how to beat up others
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但这些书籍所教的内容不过是如何打败他人,
01:52
and beat them over the head
and let them know that you are boss
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狠狠地打他的头,让他们知道你才是老大,
01:55
and don't mess with me and so on.
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以及不要惹我之类。
01:56
And basically an alpha male
for them is a bully.
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也就是雄性领袖基本与流氓无异。
02:00
And I really don't like
that kind of description,
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我并不是很喜欢这种描述,
02:04
because I am actually partly responsible
for the term "alpha male"
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因为实际上,“雄性领袖”这个词与我有些许关系,
02:08
because I wrote this book
"Chimpanzee Politics,"
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因为我写了《黑猩猩政治》这本书,
02:11
which was recommended by Newt Gingrich
to freshmen congressmen.
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纽特·金里奇将这本书推荐给新上任的国会议员。
02:16
I don't know what good it did,
but he recommended that book to them,
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我不知道这本书起到什么积极作用,
但他将这本书推荐给他们,
02:20
and after that the term
"alpha male" became very popular.
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后来,“雄性领袖”这个词变得流行起来。
02:24
But I think it is used
in a mischaracterization.
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但是我觉得人们对这个词的使用并不恰当。
02:27
It's used in a very superficial way
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关于这个词的描述十分肤浅
02:30
that doesn't relate
to what a real alpha male is.
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与真正的雄性领袖没一点关系。
02:32
And so I'm here to explain what that is.
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所以我想在这解释一下“雄性领袖”的真正含义。
02:35
The term itself goes back
actually much further.
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这个词可以追溯到很久以前。
02:37
It goes back to the '40s and '50s,
research on wolves,
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可追溯到40年代和50年代时关于狼的研究,
02:41
and basically the definition
is very simple.
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那时,“雄性领袖”的定义十分简单。
02:43
The highest ranking male
is the alpha male.
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在群体里级别最高的那个雄性就是雄性领袖。
02:45
The highest ranking female
is the alpha female.
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在群体里级别最高的那个雌性就是雌性领袖。
02:48
Every primate group
has one alpha male, one alpha female,
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每个灵长类动物群体都有一个雄性领袖和雌性领袖。
02:51
not more than that, there's only one.
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不会超过这个数,只会有一个领袖。
02:54
And I will explain how that goes.
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我会解释一下会是什么样子。
02:57
So first, the body language.
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首先可以观察他们的肢体语言。
02:59
What you see here is two male chimpanzees
who are the same size,
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你现在看到的是两只同等体型的雄性黑猩猩,
03:03
but one is walking upright,
has his hair up,
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但一只直立行走,毛发竖起,
03:06
has a big rock in his hand,
and he's the alpha male.
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手上握着石头,它就是雄性领袖。
03:08
The other male is pant-grunting to him,
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另外那只发出喘息咕哝声的雄性黑猩猩,
03:11
is being submissive to him
and bowing for him,
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则是他的下属,正对他鞠躬。
03:14
and that is the sort of ritual they need
to go through many times a day
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这是他们每天都要进行好几次的仪式,
03:17
in order to have a stable relationship.
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目的是创建一种稳定的关系。
03:20
I'll show you a video from the field.
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我给大家展示一个野外拍摄的视频。
03:23
What you will see here
is a female pant-grunting to an alpha male
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你会看到一只雌性黑猩猩向
她的雄性领袖发出喘息的咕哝声。
03:26
and you will see how that goes.
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你可以看看是怎样一个情形。
03:29
The male is approaching,
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雄性黑猩猩正在靠近,
03:30
she grunts at him.
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她向他发出咕哝声。
03:31
(Chimpanzee grunts)
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(黑猩猩发出咕哝声)
03:33
He has all his hair up
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他全部毛发竖起
03:35
and he displays.
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展示他的威力。
03:39
I'm actually standing far too close.
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我实际上站得太近。
03:41
A chimpanzee is far stronger than I am,
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黑猩猩比我强壮许多,
03:44
and I just was not very prudent,
this particular video.
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在这个视频当中,我不是非常谨慎 。
03:48
So what you saw him do
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所以你们可以看到
03:51
is he was lifting himself up
and standing on two legs,
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它双腿直立,
03:54
and putting his arms out.
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举起双臂,
03:55
That's called the bipedal swagger.
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这是两足动物虚张声势的方式。
03:57
It's a very common posture
in high-ranking males,
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在高级别的雄性中,这是非常常见的姿势,
04:00
and it's very recognizable
because humans do this kind of stuff.
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这样的姿势很容易辨别,因为人类
也有类似的行为。
04:03
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
04:04
Humans do this all the time.
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人类总是这么做。
04:07
And what I really like
about this particular picture
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我特别喜欢这张照片中
04:10
is the two old guys to the side.
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站在边上的两位年长男性。
04:13
This is very chimpanzee.
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这是非常典型的黑猩猩的行为。
04:15
In chimpanzees,
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在黑猩猩当中,
04:16
we have usually old males
who are over the hill,
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通常有年老气衰的雄性黑猩猩,
04:19
who cannot be alpha male
themselves anymore,
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他们无法再成为雄性领袖了,
04:22
but they start playing games
and forming coalitions,
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但他们开始搞事情并拉帮结派,
04:25
and behind the backs of others.
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站在背后。
04:27
And they become extremely influential,
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他们逐渐变得非常有势力,
04:29
and you may actually have old males
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你就会看到有老年雄性黑猩猩
04:31
who are more influential
than the alpha male himself.
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实际上可能比雄性领袖更有影响力。
04:35
Just as an example,
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举个例子,
04:36
the three males
that I used to work with most
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这三只雄性黑猩猩,
是我过去工作中最常接触到的,
04:39
at the Dutch zoo long ago, where I worked,
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在我过去工作的荷兰动物园里。
04:41
and the middle male here
is a 17-year-old alpha male.
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中间这只,是一只17岁的雄性领袖。
04:45
The male whom he is grooming
on the side is twice as old,
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旁边这只正在梳理毛发的雄性年纪是它两倍,
而正是这只年老雄性黑猩猩使它成为领袖。
04:50
and this old male has made him the leader.
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04:53
So you can imagine that that old male
has an enormous amount of power,
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你可以想象那只年老的雄性黑猩猩
有多大的力量,
因为他使得那只雄性领袖成为领袖。
04:56
because he has made
the alpha male alpha male.
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04:58
The male on the right
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最右边的这只雄性黑猩猩,
05:00
is individually the strongest male.
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是他们当中最强壮的雄性。
05:02
In captivity, you can test it out,
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被孤立了,你可以看出来。
05:05
and you can know that this male
has no trouble with either one.
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你可以看出来这只雄性一对一毫无问题,
05:09
He has only trouble
with the combination of the two.
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它的唯一麻烦是另外两只联合起来。
所以拉帮结派的行为在黑猩猩群体中很常见。
05:12
And so the coalition formation
that goes on in chimpanzee society
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情况远比你想象的复杂。
05:16
makes it much more complex than you think.
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意思是,比如,
05:18
It means, for example,
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05:20
that the smallest male in a group
can be the alpha male.
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群体中体形最小的也可以成为雄性领袖。
05:23
You don't need to be
the biggest and strongest male.
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身强体壮并不是成为雄性领袖的必要条件。
05:25
The smallest male, if he has
the right friends and keeps them happy,
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最小的雄性,如果它交对了朋友,
并且能让它们开心,
05:29
or he has female support,
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或者得到雌性的支持,
05:30
he can be the alpha male.
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它就可以成为雄性领袖。
因此,联盟使一切都变复杂了,
05:33
So the coalition system
makes everything complex,
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05:36
and I'm always waiting here in the US
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我一直在等待
05:39
for the primaries,
the end of the primaries,
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初选在美国的终结。
05:41
because that's a moment
where you need to demonstrate unity.
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因为这是我们需要展示团结的时刻。
05:45
Now let me first show you
how the unity is shown in chimpanzees.
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首先我展示下黑猩猩是如何展现团结。
05:48
What you see here is two males on the left
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你看到左边这两只雄性黑猩猩
05:50
who are standing together.
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站在一起。
05:52
You also see the big
canine teeth that they have.
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你还可以看到他们的大犬齿。
05:54
And they're standing together and they
demonstrate to the rest of the group,
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他俩站在一起并向其他的成员展示
“我们在一起,我们是个团体。”
05:58
"We are together. We are a unit."
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06:00
The males on the right
are walking together in synchrony.
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右边的雄性黑猩猩正同步行走。
06:03
That's another way of demonstrating
that you are together.
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这里另一种展示团结的方式。
06:06
And so demonstrating unity
is extremely important
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这展现了在联盟系统里
06:09
in a coalition system,
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团结一致是十分重要的。
06:11
and as I said, in the primaries
always I'm waiting for that moment
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我总是期待在初选中看到这样的场景,
06:14
because then you have
two members of the same party
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同一党派的两个成员
需要相互竞争,
06:17
who have been fighting with each other,
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06:19
and they need to come
together at some moment.
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但在有些时候,却需要一起出台。
这场景就很尴尬。
06:22
And it leads to very awkward situations.
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互不喜欢的人需要彼此拥抱
06:25
People who don't like each other
need to embrace each other
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06:27
and stand together,
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站在一起,
06:29
and that's absolutely essential
for the unity of the party,
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这对于政党的团结一致是极为重要的,
06:32
and if you don't do that,
the party may fall apart.
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如果不这样做,党派就会分裂。
06:35
And so if it doesn't go well,
like in this particular case --
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如果处理不好,就像这样——
(笑声)
06:38
(Laughter)
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06:39
then the party is in deep doo-doo
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这个党派就麻烦了,
06:41
because they have not demonstrated unity.
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因为他们不团结。
06:44
So that's a very important part
of the coalition system,
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所以,团结是联盟系统当中非常重要的一部分
06:47
and that's something that we share
between humans and chimpanzees.
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这是人类和黑猩猩的共同点
06:51
Now, how do you become an alpha male?
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那么,如何成为一个雄性领袖呢?
06:55
First of all, you need to be
impressive and intimidating
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首先,你必须让人印象深刻,显得强势,
06:58
and demonstrate your vigor on occasion
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不时展现你的活力,
07:00
and show that you are very strong,
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并展现出你非常强壮,
07:02
and there's all sorts
of ways of doing that.
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有很多方式可以展现你的强劲有力的一面。
但是你还必须有宽宏大量。
07:05
But other things that you need to do
is you need to be generous.
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比如,其他雄性黑猩猩
07:08
So, for example,
males who go on a campaign
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要把雄性首领赶下台的话,
07:10
to dethrone the leader,
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07:11
which may take two or three months
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这通常需要花两到三个月时间。
07:14
where they're testing
all the coalitions in the group,
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当它们在群体中当中寻找联盟时,
07:17
they also become extremely generous.
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它们也会变得慷慨大方起来。
07:19
They share food very easily with everyone.
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它们能非常轻松地与其他成员分享食物,
07:21
Or they start to tickle
the babies of the females.
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或者开始逗雌性成员的小宝宝。
07:24
They're normally, male chimpanzees,
not particularly interested in infants,
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通常来说,雄性黑猩猩对婴儿不感兴趣,
07:28
but when they are campaigning like that,
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但是当它们进行类似宣传行动时候,
07:30
they get very interested in infants
and they tickle them,
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它们就会对婴儿非常感兴趣并逗他们玩,
它们想借此增进与雌性成员间的关系
07:33
and they try to curry favor
with the females.
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07:35
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
07:36
So in humans, of course,
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在人类中,也是非常显然,
07:37
I am always intrigued
by these men who are candidates
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我总是被这些候选人
那样把宝宝抱起来吸引。
07:41
and hold babies up like this.
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07:42
This is not particularly
something that babies like --
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小宝宝一般并不喜欢这样的方式。
(笑声)
07:45
(Laughter)
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但这是一个给全世界的信号,
07:46
but since it is a signal
to the rest of the world,
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07:48
they need to hold them in the air.
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他们得把小宝宝举过头顶。
07:50
And I was really intrigued by,
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但尤为吸引我的是
在上一届竞选中,我们的女性候选人,
07:53
when we had a female candidate
in the last election,
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07:55
the way she held babies
was more like this,
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她抱小宝宝的方式更像是这样,
07:58
which is what babies really like.
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这种才是小宝宝喜欢的方式。
08:00
But she of course
didn't need to send the message
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当然,她不需要向世界传达信息,
08:02
that she could hold a baby
without dropping it,
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也就是,小宝宝在她手里是安全的。
然而男性却需要这么做来传达信息。
08:05
which was what the man was doing.
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08:07
So this is a very common tactic,
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所以这是十分常见的策略。
08:08
and male chimpanzees,
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雄性黑猩猩,
08:10
they spend a lot of time
currying favor with all sorts of parties
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他们花很多时间增进与各个群体之间的关系。
08:14
when they are campaigning.
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当他们在宣传造势的时候。
08:17
Now, what are the privileges and the costs
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现在,我们来看看作为一个雄性领袖的
08:21
of being an alpha male?
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特权与代价。
08:23
The biggest privilege is females.
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最大的利益在于获得雌性,
08:26
Food is really irrelevant.
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食物倒不太相关。
08:27
Male chimpanzees
can go a week without food
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雄性黑猩猩就算一个星期没进食也可存活。
08:30
if there's a female in estrus
and they're sexually interested in her.
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如果有正处在发情期的雌性黑猩猩,
并且他这对只雌性黑猩猩有“性趣”,
食物是次要的。
08:34
Food is secondary to sex.
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08:36
And so the male chimpanzees --
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所以,雄性大猩猩以及
08:38
and we evolutionary biologists, of course,
we have an explanation for this,
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我们进化学生物学家,对此有所解释,
08:42
is that sex leads to reproduction,
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性与繁衍息息相关
08:44
and reproductive success
is the measure of evolution.
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有繁衍才有进化。
08:47
That's how everything evolves.
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世间一切都是这么发展的。
08:49
And so if males can enhance
their reproductive success
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如果在群体中,级别高
08:51
by being high ranking,
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能增加它们繁衍成功的机率。
08:53
you get automatically the ambition
to be high ranking in the males.
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那么,这自然就成为努力成为
雄性领袖的动力。
08:57
So that's the privilege.
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这就是我们所说的特权。
09:00
The costs, one cost is of course
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那么雄性领袖的代价之一,当然就是
09:03
that you need to keep your partners happy.
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你需要让你的伙伴保持开心。
09:05
So if you come to power
with the support of an old male,
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如果你借助一位长老的帮助成为领袖,
09:09
you need to let that old male
mate with females.
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你需要给予那位长老与雌性交配的特权
09:12
If you don't do that,
that old male is going to get mad at you,
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如果你不那么做,长老会大发雷霆。
09:15
and you're going to lose him as a partner.
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并且你会失去他这位伙伴。
09:18
So there's a transaction going on.
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所以这是一笔交易。
09:20
If you become alpha male this way,
you need to keep your partners happy.
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如果你是通过这种方式获得地位
你需要让你的伙伴开心。
所以这就是代价之一。
09:24
And so that's one of the costs.
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09:25
The second cost is that
everyone wants your position.
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第二个代价就是,每个人都垂涎你的地位。
09:29
Alpha male position
is a very important position,
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雄性领袖是一个非常重要的地位,
09:31
and everyone wants to take it from you,
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每个人都想从你那里夺取这个地位,
09:34
and so you constantly
have to watch your back.
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所以你要一直保持警惕。
09:36
You have to be extremely vigilant.
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你要非常地谨慎小心。
09:38
For example, you have to
disrupt the coalitions of others
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比如,你必须要阻止帮派的形成。
09:40
and that's what male
chimpanzees do quite a bit.
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雄性黑猩猩经常拉帮结派。
它们的策略是,分而治之。
09:43
Divide and rule strategies, they have.
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09:45
And so that's a very stressful situation,
and we actually have data on this.
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所以这是个非常有压力的情景。
我们实际上有数据来证明。
09:49
The data comes from the field,
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数据来自野外考察,
09:51
from baboons not chimpanzees in this case,
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这次考察对象是狒狒而不是黑猩猩,
他们检验了狒狒的粪便样本
09:54
where they did fecal samples
on the baboons
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09:56
and they analyzed them
for glucocorticoids.
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检验其中的糖皮质激素。
09:59
And what you see here is a graph
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在这幅曲线图上
10:01
where you see that the lower ranking
the male baboon is,
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你可以看到,狒狒的级别越低,
10:05
the higher is his cortisol level
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粪便中的皮质醇的水平就越高,
10:07
in the feces,
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但正如你所见,
10:09
but the alpha male, as you see,
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雄性领袖的粪便中,
10:11
has just as high a level
as the lowest-ranking males,
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皮质醇水平和低级别的狒狒一样高,
10:14
and so you may think that being alpha male
is nice and dandy and is wonderful,
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你可能认为作为雄性领袖一定风光无限,
但实际上这是一个压力很大的角色,
10:19
but it's actually
a very stressful position,
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10:21
and we can demonstrate
that physiologically.
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这可以从生理学数据显示。
10:25
Now, what are the obligations?
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那么,什么是雄性领袖的义务呢?
10:27
And here, for me,
it gets really interesting,
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这对于我来说十分有趣,
10:30
and it deviates very much
from your typical image of the alpha male.
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这和你想象中雄性领袖的义务很不一样。
10:35
The alpha male
has two sorts of obligations.
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雄性领袖有两种义务
10:38
One is to keep the peace in the group.
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其一,保障群体内部和平。
10:40
We call that the control role,
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我们可以称其为控制角色
10:42
to control fights in the group,
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控制群体内部斗争,
10:44
and the second is to be the most empathic,
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其二,表现出同理心,
10:46
the consoler in chief, basically,
of the nation, so to speak.
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也就是扮演群体里那个安慰群众的角色。
10:49
So first of all, keeping the peace.
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首先,保持群体内部和平。
10:51
This is a male who stops a fight
between two females.
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这是一只雄性阻止两只雌性的争斗的画面。
10:54
Two females on the left and the right
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分别在左边和右边的两只雌性
10:56
have been screaming and yelling
at each other over food,
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由于食物产生了争执,
10:59
because food is very
important for the females,
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因为食物对于雌性来说非常重要,
11:01
and so he stops the fight between them
and stands between them like this.
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所以他像这样站在她们中间劝架。
11:05
And it's very interesting to me
that alpha males, when they do this,
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这对我来说非常有趣,
当雄性领袖这么做的时候,
11:08
they become impartial.
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他们变得公正。
11:10
They don't support their mom
or their best buddy.
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他们并不会偏袒他们的母亲或者最好的朋友。
11:13
No, no, they stop fights,
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他们不会这么做而是去阻止争斗,
11:15
and they come up
for the underdog in general.
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并且为斗争中的弱势一方挺身而出。
11:17
And this makes them
extremely popular in the group,
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这使他们在群体受到欢迎,
11:21
because they provide security
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因为他们为大家带来安全感,
11:23
for the lowest-ranking
members of the group.
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特别是为弱势群体。
11:25
And so they become impartial,
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他们变得公正,
11:27
which is an unusual condition
for a chimpanzee to be in,
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这对于黑猩猩来说可不常见,
11:30
because they're usually
very fond of their friends and so on,
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因为他们通常十分善待他们的朋友,
11:33
and these alpha males
who are good at this,
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这些雄性领袖很擅长做和解的一方,
11:35
they can be very effective
at keeping the peace in the group.
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而这能有效保持群体内部和平。
11:38
And the second thing they do
is they show empathy for others.
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他们做的第二件事,就是对其他组员表示同理心。
我做了很多有关同理心的研究,
11:41
Now, I do an enormous amount
of research on empathy,
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但是我没有时间透露其中细节,
11:44
and I don't have time to go into it,
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11:45
but empathy is nowadays a topic
that we study in rodents and dogs
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同情心是我们在啮齿动物和狗,
11:50
and elephants and primates,
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以及大象和灵长类,
等各种动物中研究的课题。
11:52
all sorts of animals.
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11:54
And what you see here is two bonobos.
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你在这里看到的是两只矮黑猩猩,
11:56
The one in front
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前面这只
在之前的一场搏斗中惨败。
11:59
has been beaten up in a fight.
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12:00
The one in the back puts
her arms around her and consoles her.
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后面这只搂着她,安慰她。
12:03
This is also actually how we measure
empathy in young children,
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这也是我们用于评测儿童同情心的方式,
12:07
by looking at how they respond
to distressed individuals.
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通过观察他们如何对处于痛苦的人做出反应。
高级别的男性会做很多这样的事情,
12:11
And high-ranking males,
they do a lot of this.
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12:13
High-ranking males provide an enormous
amount of comfort in the group,
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群体中级别高的男性做出许多
表示同理心的行为,
12:17
and they go to places
where there are earthquakes
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他们出现在地震或飓风发生的地方
12:20
or hurricanes
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12:22
and they provide comfort.
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他们为群体带来慰藉。
12:23
The pope does this.
The presidents do this.
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教皇如此,总统亦然。
12:26
All the leaders in the world
have to do this job.
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世界上所有的领袖都要做这种工作。
12:28
The queen does it and so on.
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女王等等也如此。
12:30
They all have to do this job,
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他们都需要这样做。
12:31
so providing consolation,
and that's a very important task.
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慰问群众是一项非常重要的任务。
非常擅长于这两件事情的男性,
12:35
And males who are good at these two,
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12:37
keeping the peace and providing comfort,
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维持和平,提供宽慰,
12:39
they become extremely popular leaders,
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他们就会成非常受欢迎的领导者。
12:41
and there's actually
some self-interest involved in it.
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所以这往往有私心在里面。
12:44
They don't do it just for the group,
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他们做这并不只为了群体,
12:46
because it also stabilizes their position.
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因为这也有助于维持他的地位。
12:49
The more popular
a male becomes as alpha male
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一个雄性首领越来越受欢迎,
其他成员就会更尊敬景仰他,
12:52
and the more the rest of them
respects them and looks up to them,
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12:56
the better their position is defended
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这样雄性领袖的地位就越牢固了,
12:58
in case it's going to be
challenged by somebody else,
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以防它会受到别人的挑战
13:01
because then, of course, the whole group
is going to support that male
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因为当然,所有的群体都会支持这个人,
13:04
because they want to keep
a leader who is good for them.
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因为他们想要维护对他们有益的领袖。
所以群众通常都比较拥护好领袖,
13:07
So the group is usually very supportive
of males who are good leaders,
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13:10
and it's not supportive at all of bullies.
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完全不支持霸凌的领袖。
一旦这些霸凌者失去地位,
13:13
And when bullies lose their position,
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13:14
they may end up
in a very bad situation there.
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他们的下场可能很惨。
13:17
This is data actually
on the consolation behavior.
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这是关于慰问行为的数据。
13:20
This is data on consolation
in chimpanzees,
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这是关于黑猩猩如何安慰同伙的数据,
13:23
and you see for the medium-
and low-ranking individuals,
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你看在中下等级的黑猩猩中,
13:26
the females do more of it than the males.
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雌性做的比雄性多。
13:28
This is basically the whole community.
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基本上是整个社群都是这样。
13:30
And this is true for all
the mammal studies on empathy
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在哺乳动物的同情心研究中
13:33
is that females
have more of it than males.
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也显示雌性比雄性有更多的同情心。
13:35
But look at the alpha male.
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但是看看这位雄性领袖。
13:37
The alpha male does
far more than anybody else.
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雄性领袖做的比任何人都多。
13:40
And so that's the data on alpha males
being the consoler in chief, basically.
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这基本上就是雄性领袖作为
首席安慰者的数据。
13:46
The last thing I want to say
is something about alpha females.
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最后我想提一些雌性领袖的事。
13:50
This is a picture of Mama,
the alpha female in the Arnhem zoo
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这是Mama的照片,她是
阿亨姆动物园里的雌性领袖,
13:53
where I used to work,
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我过去在这个动物园工作过,
13:54
who is now all over the internet,
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Mama现在在网络上非常红,
13:56
I think a hundred million
clicks at the moment,
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我想现在关于她的一个视频
可能有上亿的点击量。
13:58
for a video of her dying at the age of 59,
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这是一个她在59岁去世的视频,
14:01
which happened last year.
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她是在去年过世的。
14:02
And Mama was an absolute
centrum of the group.
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Mama绝对是团体中的中流砥柱。
14:05
So she was not physically capable
of dominating the males.
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虽然她并不能凭借强大的体力统领雄性,
14:10
She ranked below the males,
but she was the center of the community,
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她的地位也比雄性低,但是她是社群的中心。
14:14
and if there was big trouble
in the community,
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如果社群里出什么事,
所有人最终都得找Mama解决。
14:16
everyone would end up in the arms of Mama.
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14:18
And so she was a very important figure.
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她是一个非常重要的人物。
14:20
And so I don't want to minimize
the position of alpha females
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所以我不想贬低雌性领袖
14:24
in the chimpanzee group.
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在黑猩猩群体中地位。
14:25
And then we have a species
that is equally close to us
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还有一个种群,就像黑猩猩一样和我们很相近
14:28
as the chimpanzee, the bonobo.
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那就是矮黑猩猩。
14:30
We often forget about the bonobo,
but the bonobos have a matriarchal society
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我们经常忘记矮黑猩猩,
他们过母系社会的生活。
14:35
and the alpha individual
is a female, generally.
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通常来说,首领是雌性。
14:39
Generally, it's a female
who is at the top of the community,
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雌性是社群的首领,
14:42
and we know much less
about how this is done
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然而我们并不知道雌性是如何成为首领的
14:44
and how they get to that position,
and what they do with it,
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以及她们如何获得地位并用之何处,
14:47
because we know much less
about bonobos in general.
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因为我们对矮黑猩猩大体上所知甚少,
14:50
But I do want to emphasize
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但是我想强调的是
14:51
that the alpha in a group
doesn't need to be a male,
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一个群体的领袖并不一定是雄性,
14:55
and that actually in one
of our close relatives, it is a female.
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并且在我们的近亲中,有个种群的
领袖就是雌性。
14:59
So the message I want to leave you with
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我想传达的信息是
15:01
is that if you are looking
at men in our society
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我们现今社会中的男性
15:07
who are the boss of, let's say,
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不论是家庭或公司中的领头人
15:09
a family or a business
or Washington or whatever,
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或是美国总统华盛顿,
15:12
you call them alpha male,
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你可以称他们为雄性领袖,
15:15
you should not insult chimpanzees
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但是你不可以用错误的标签
15:17
by using the wrong label.
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侮辱黑猩猩。
15:19
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
15:20
You should not call a bully an alpha male.
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你不应该称一个霸凌者为雄性领袖
15:23
Someone who is big and strong
and intimidates and insults everyone
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一个强壮,喜欢恐吓并侮辱他人的人,
15:27
is not necessarily an alpha male.
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这样的人不能被称之为雄性首领。
15:29
An alpha male has all sorts of qualities,
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一个雄性领袖有各种各样的品质。
15:31
and I have seen bully
alpha males in chimpanzees,
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当然,黑猩猩中存在霸凌式雄性头领,
15:34
they do occur,
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他们的确存在,
15:35
but most of the ones that we have
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但是我们大部分雄性领袖
有领导力,
15:38
have leadership capacities
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15:40
and are integrated in their community,
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与群体融合在一起
15:42
and, like Amos at the end,
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最终,它们就像阿莫那样
15:44
they are loved and respected,
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受到爱戴与尊敬,
15:45
and so it's a very different situation
than you may think.
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所以真正的雄性领袖可能
和你们想象得不一样。
15:48
And I thank you.
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谢谢!
15:50
(Applause)
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