The surprising science of alpha males | Frans de Waal

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譯者: Lilian Chiu 審譯者: Helen Chang
00:12
Well, I have known many alpha males in my life,
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我一生中認識很多雄性領袖,
00:16
chimpanzee alpha males,
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黑猩猩雄性領袖,
00:19
and I'm going to talk about what an alpha male is,
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我要來談談雄性領袖是什麼,
00:22
because I think we can all learn a lot from our close relatives
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因為我認為,在我們 也有雄性領袖的事物上,
有很多能向我們的近親學習的。
00:26
where we have alpha males.
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00:28
And as an example, I want to give you Amos, a male that I knew
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舉例來說,我認識 一隻雄性黑猩猩叫做艾莫斯,
00:33
who was a young male and he was alpha male,
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牠很年輕,且牠是雄性領袖,
00:35
he was very popular,
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牠非常受歡迎,
00:36
but he got sick
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但牠生病了,
00:38
and he lost his position because, you know, chimpanzee males
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牠失去了牠的地位,因為, 你們知道的,雄猩猩
00:42
they can spot from a mile away if you are weak
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在一英哩外就能發現你很虛弱,
00:44
and they went for him,
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所以牠們找上牠,
00:46
and he lost his position, and then he got sicker and sicker
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牠失去了牠的地位, 接著牠越病越重,
00:49
until at some point we had to isolate him.
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直到某個時點,我們得要將牠隔離。
00:52
The group lived on a grassy island,
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這群動物住在滿是青草的島嶼上,
00:56
and we had to isolate him in a cage,
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我們得要用一個籠子將牠隔離,
00:58
but we cracked open the cage so that the rest of the chimps
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但我們讓籠子開了個縫, 讓其他的黑猩猩
01:01
still had access to him.
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仍然能接觸到牠。
01:02
And what happened was most touching.
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接下來發生的事情非常感人。
01:04
Other chimps would bring food to him,
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其他黑猩猩會帶食物給牠,
01:07
they would bring wood wool to him,
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會帶木毛給牠,
01:09
which is this thing that they use to sleep in and build nests out of,
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木毛是牠們用來當床 以及建立巢穴用的,
01:13
and females would put the wood wool behind his back.
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母黑猩猩會把木毛放在牠背後。
01:16
He was leaning heavily against the wall,
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牠很沉重地傾身靠在牆壁上,
01:18
and the way we do with pillows to patients in a hospital,
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就像在醫院裡我們 會拿枕頭給病人墊著,
01:22
they were putting that stuff behind his back.
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牠們則是把木毛放在牠的背後。
01:24
And I thought, this is the way to go for an alpha male.
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我心想,這是對待 雄性領袖的方式。
01:28
He was loved and respected, and everyone was taking care of him,
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牠是被愛戴且尊敬的, 每隻黑猩猩都在照顧牠,
01:32
and this is not always how it goes,
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通常不見得會如此,
01:33
because some males don't end so well when they lose their position.
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因為有些雄猩猩在失去地位之後 並沒有被好好地對待。
01:37
So Amos was an example of a male who was liked as a leader,
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所以,艾莫斯是個 被愛戴的雄性領導者的例子,
01:42
and I think the term alpha male, if you look it up on the internet,
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至於「雄性領袖(alpha male)」 這個詞,若你們上網查,
01:46
you will find all these business books that tell you how to be an alpha male,
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會找到各種商業書籍, 教你如何成為雄性領袖,
01:49
and what they mean is how to beat up others
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而他們的意思是要擊敗其他人,
01:52
and beat them over the head and let them know that you are boss
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且要直接打向頭部, 讓其他人知道你是老大,
01:55
and don't mess with me and so on.
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不要來惹我等等。
01:56
And basically an alpha male for them is a bully.
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因為,對他們來說, 雄性領袖就是個惡霸。
02:00
And I really don't like that kind of description,
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而我真的不喜歡那種描述,
02:04
because I am actually partly responsible for the term "alpha male"
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因為對於「雄性領袖」這個詞, 我其實也有點責任,
02:08
because I wrote this book "Chimpanzee Politics,"
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因為《黑猩猩政治學》 這本書是我寫的,
02:11
which was recommended by Newt Gingrich to freshmen congressmen.
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而紐特金瑞契把這本書 推薦給新進的國會議員。
02:16
I don't know what good it did, but he recommended that book to them,
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我不知道這本書有什麼好處, 但他就推薦給了他們,
02:20
and after that the term "alpha male" became very popular.
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從那之後,「雄性領袖」 這個詞就變得很熱門。
02:24
But I think it is used in a mischaracterization.
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但我認為這個詞 被用在錯誤的描述中。
02:27
It's used in a very superficial way
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它被拿來做很表淺的解讀,
02:30
that doesn't relate to what a real alpha male is.
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那和真正的雄性領袖是不一樣的。
02:32
And so I'm here to explain what that is.
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所以,我來是此要解釋 雄性領袖是什麼。
02:35
The term itself goes back actually much further.
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這個詞本身的源頭 要再向前追溯許多。
02:37
It goes back to the '40s and '50s, research on wolves,
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要回到四○及五○年代, 關於狼的研究,
02:41
and basically the definition is very simple.
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基本上,定義十分簡單。
02:43
The highest ranking male is the alpha male.
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等級排名最高的雄性, 就是雄性領袖。
02:45
The highest ranking female is the alpha female.
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等級排名最高的雌性, 就是雌性領袖。
02:48
Every primate group has one alpha male, one alpha female,
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每個靈長類動物群體,都會有 一隻雄性領袖、一隻雌性領袖,
02:51
not more than that, there's only one.
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不會超過,就只有一隻。
02:54
And I will explain how that goes.
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我來解釋一下這個過程。
02:57
So first, the body language.
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首先,肢體語言。
02:59
What you see here is two male chimpanzees who are the same size,
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你們在這裡看到的是 大小相同的兩隻雄猩猩,
03:03
but one is walking upright, has his hair up,
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但有一隻用直立的姿勢走路, 牠的毛也是站立著的,
03:06
has a big rock in his hand, and he's the alpha male.
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手上拿著一塊大石頭, 牠就是雄性領袖。
03:08
The other male is pant-grunting to him,
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另一隻雄性則是 喘吁吁地對牠發出呼嚕聲,
03:11
is being submissive to him and bowing for him,
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對牠表示順從,對牠屈身,
03:14
and that is the sort of ritual they need to go through many times a day
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牠們一天需要做許多次這種儀式,
03:17
in order to have a stable relationship.
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才能夠有穩定的關係。
03:20
I'll show you a video from the field.
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讓我放一段實地拍攝的 影片給各位看。
03:23
What you will see here is a female pant-grunting to an alpha male
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會看到一隻雌猩猩對雄性領袖 喘吁吁地發出呼嚕聲,
03:26
and you will see how that goes.
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各位可以看到這個過程。
03:29
The male is approaching,
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雄性正在靠近,
03:30
she grunts at him.
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雌性對牠發出呼嚕聲。
03:31
(Chimpanzee grunts)
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(黑猩猩發出呼嚕聲)
03:33
He has all his hair up
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雄性的毛都立起來了,
03:35
and he displays.
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牠在求偶炫耀。
03:39
I'm actually standing far too close.
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我其實站得太近了。
03:41
A chimpanzee is far stronger than I am,
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黑猩猩比我強壯太多,
03:44
and I just was not very prudent, this particular video.
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在這支影片中,我不夠審慎。
03:48
So what you saw him do
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所以,你們看見牠所做的,
03:51
is he was lifting himself up and standing on two legs,
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是牠把自己抬起來,用兩腳站立,
03:54
and putting his arms out.
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伸出雙臂。
03:55
That's called the bipedal swagger.
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這叫做雙足式的昂首闊步。
03:57
It's a very common posture in high-ranking males,
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這是排名等級高的雄性 非常常見的姿勢,
04:00
and it's very recognizable because humans do this kind of stuff.
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這非常容易被認出來, 因為人類也會做這個動作。
04:03
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
04:04
Humans do this all the time.
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人類常常會做。
04:07
And what I really like about this particular picture
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這張照片,我很喜歡的一點,
04:10
is the two old guys to the side.
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是旁邊的兩個老傢伙。
04:13
This is very chimpanzee.
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這是非常黑猩猩的景象,
04:15
In chimpanzees,
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在黑猩猩中,
04:16
we have usually old males who are over the hill,
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通常會有已經過了顛峰期的雄猩猩,
04:19
who cannot be alpha male themselves anymore,
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牠們不能再是雄性領袖,
04:22
but they start playing games and forming coalitions,
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但牠們會開始玩權謀,組成聯盟,
04:25
and behind the backs of others.
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在別的黑猩猩背後做手腳。
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And they become extremely influential,
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牠們會變得十分有影響力,
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and you may actually have old males
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確實有可能會有老的雄猩猩
04:31
who are more influential than the alpha male himself.
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比雄性領袖本身還要有影響力。
04:35
Just as an example,
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舉個例子,
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the three males that I used to work with most
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我很久以前在荷蘭動物園工作時
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at the Dutch zoo long ago, where I worked,
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最常接觸三隻雄猩猩,
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and the middle male here is a 17-year-old alpha male.
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中間的那一隻是十七歲的雄性領袖。
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The male whom he is grooming on the side is twice as old,
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在旁邊被牠梳洗的那一隻 年齡有兩倍大,
04:50
and this old male has made him the leader.
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這隻老的雄猩猩讓牠成為領袖。
04:53
So you can imagine that that old male has an enormous amount of power,
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所以,各位可以想像, 這隻老的黑猩猩有非常大的權力,
04:56
because he has made the alpha male alpha male.
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因為是牠讓雄性領袖 成為雄性領袖的。
04:58
The male on the right
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右邊的那一隻,
05:00
is individually the strongest male.
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個別來說是最強壯的雄猩猩。
05:02
In captivity, you can test it out,
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在囚禁的狀況下測試,
05:05
and you can know that this male has no trouble with either one.
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可以得知這隻雄猩猩 和其他兩隻沒有個別的過節,
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He has only trouble with the combination of the two.
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牠唯一不滿的就是 兩隻黑猩猩結合在一起。
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And so the coalition formation that goes on in chimpanzee society
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所以,在黑猩猩社會中 也會有聯盟形成,
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makes it much more complex than you think.
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讓牠們的社會比想像中還複雜。
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It means, for example,
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這意味著,比如,
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that the smallest male in a group can be the alpha male.
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群體中最小的雄猩猩 也可能成為雄性領袖。
05:23
You don't need to be the biggest and strongest male.
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雄性領袖不需要最高大、最強壯。
05:25
The smallest male, if he has the right friends and keeps them happy,
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最小的雄猩猩如果能找對朋友 並讓這些朋友保持開心,
05:29
or he has female support,
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或能得到雌性的支持,
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he can be the alpha male.
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牠就有可能當上雄性領袖。
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So the coalition system makes everything complex,
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結盟的體制讓一切變複雜了,
05:36
and I'm always waiting here in the US
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而我一直在美國這裡等待著,
05:39
for the primaries, the end of the primaries,
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等待初選,等待初選結束,
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because that's a moment where you need to demonstrate unity.
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因為在那一刻就會需要展現團結。
05:45
Now let me first show you how the unity is shown in chimpanzees.
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我先讓各位看看在黑猩猩中的 團結是什麼樣子的。
05:48
What you see here is two males on the left
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在左圖中有兩隻雄猩猩,
05:50
who are standing together.
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牠們站在一起。
05:52
You also see the big canine teeth that they have.
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可以看見牠們有很大顆的犬齒。
05:54
And they're standing together and they demonstrate to the rest of the group,
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牠們站在一起, 向群體中的其他黑猩猩宣示:
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"We are together. We are a unit."
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「我們是一起的。我們是一體的。」
06:00
The males on the right are walking together in synchrony.
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右邊的雄猩猩同步走在一起。
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That's another way of demonstrating that you are together.
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那是另一種宣示牠們在一起的方式。
06:06
And so demonstrating unity is extremely important
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在結盟的體制中,宣示出團結
06:09
in a coalition system,
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是非常重要的,
06:11
and as I said, in the primaries always I'm waiting for that moment
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如我先前所言,在初選中, 我總是在等待那個時刻,
06:14
because then you have two members of the same party
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因為接著就會有同黨派的兩個成員,
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who have been fighting with each other,
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牠們本來一直在互相鬥爭,
06:19
and they need to come together at some moment.
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卻在某個時刻得要聯手。
06:22
And it leads to very awkward situations.
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這會造成非常尷尬的情況。
06:25
People who don't like each other need to embrace each other
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不喜歡彼此的人得要擁抱彼此,
06:27
and stand together,
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站在一起,
06:29
and that's absolutely essential for the unity of the party,
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對於黨派的團結, 這點是絕對必要的,
06:32
and if you don't do that, the party may fall apart.
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如果你不這麼做,黨派可能會分裂。
06:35
And so if it doesn't go well, like in this particular case --
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如果不太順利,就像這個案例—–
06:38
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
06:39
then the party is in deep doo-doo
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那麼這個黨派就有大麻煩了,
06:41
because they have not demonstrated unity.
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因為他們沒有展現出團結。
06:44
So that's a very important part of the coalition system,
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所以,那是結盟的體制 非常重要的一部分,
06:47
and that's something that we share between humans and chimpanzees.
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這也是人類和黑猩猩的共同之處。
06:51
Now, how do you become an alpha male?
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那麼,你要如何成為雄性領袖?
06:55
First of all, you need to be impressive and intimidating
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首先,你得要讓人印象深刻 且要令人生畏,
06:58
and demonstrate your vigor on occasion
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偶爾要展現出你的精力,
07:00
and show that you are very strong,
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顯示你非常強壯,
07:02
and there's all sorts of ways of doing that.
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要做到這一點的方式很多。
07:05
But other things that you need to do is you need to be generous.
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但你還需要做其他的事, 你得要大方。
07:08
So, for example, males who go on a campaign
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所以,舉例來說, 如果雄性想要競選,
07:10
to dethrone the leader,
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罷黜現有的領袖,
07:11
which may take two or three months
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這可能要花二或三個月的時間,
07:14
where they're testing all the coalitions in the group,
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牠們會用這段時間 測試群體中的所有聯盟,
07:17
they also become extremely generous.
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牠們也會變得十分大方。
07:19
They share food very easily with everyone.
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牠們會很輕易就和大家分享食物。
07:21
Or they start to tickle the babies of the females.
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或是牠們會開始逗弄雌猩猩的寶寶。
07:24
They're normally, male chimpanzees, not particularly interested in infants,
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正常來說,雄猩猩 對於嬰兒不會特別感興趣,
07:28
but when they are campaigning like that,
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但當牠們要從事競選時,
07:30
they get very interested in infants and they tickle them,
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牠們就會對嬰兒 很感興趣,會逗弄嬰兒,
07:33
and they try to curry favor with the females.
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牠們會試圖巴結討好雌猩猩。
07:35
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
07:36
So in humans, of course,
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當然,換作是人類,
07:37
I am always intrigued by these men who are candidates
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這些男性候選人 像這樣高舉著嬰兒時,
07:41
and hold babies up like this.
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總讓我感到很好奇。
07:42
This is not particularly something that babies like --
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嬰兒並不會特別喜歡 被這樣對待——
07:45
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
07:46
but since it is a signal to the rest of the world,
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但畢竟這是在對全世界 傳遞一個訊息,
07:48
they need to hold them in the air.
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他們總是得把嬰兒高舉在空中。
07:50
And I was really intrigued by,
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還有一點也讓我覺得很好奇的,
07:53
when we had a female candidate in the last election,
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就是上一次的選舉中有女性候選人,
07:55
the way she held babies was more like this,
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她抱起嬰兒的方式比較像是這樣,
07:58
which is what babies really like.
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這才是嬰兒喜歡的方式。
08:00
But she of course didn't need to send the message
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但,當然,她並不需要 傳遞訊息告訴大家
08:02
that she could hold a baby without dropping it,
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她能夠抱著嬰兒 且不會讓嬰兒摔落,
08:05
which was what the man was doing.
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這是剛剛那位男性在傳遞的訊息。
08:07
So this is a very common tactic,
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所以,這是個很常見的戰略,
08:08
and male chimpanzees,
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而雄猩猩
08:10
they spend a lot of time currying favor with all sorts of parties
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在競選的時候,會花很多時間
08:14
when they are campaigning.
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討好各黨派。
08:17
Now, what are the privileges and the costs
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當上雄性領袖有什麼特權
08:21
of being an alpha male?
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和代價?
08:23
The biggest privilege is females.
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最大的特權就是雌猩猩。
08:26
Food is really irrelevant.
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食物其實不重要。
08:27
Male chimpanzees can go a week without food
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如果雄猩猩對 發情的雌猩猩有「性」趣,
08:30
if there's a female in estrus and they're sexually interested in her.
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牠們可以一星期不吃東西。
08:34
Food is secondary to sex.
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性比食物更重要。
08:36
And so the male chimpanzees --
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所以,雄猩猩——
08:38
and we evolutionary biologists, of course, we have an explanation for this,
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當然,我們演化生物學家 對此有一種解釋說法,
08:42
is that sex leads to reproduction,
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就是性會導致繁殖,
08:44
and reproductive success is the measure of evolution.
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而演化成功就是用繁殖來測量的。
08:47
That's how everything evolves.
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那就是萬物演化的方式。
08:49
And so if males can enhance their reproductive success
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所以,若雄性能夠透過 取得高的等級地位
08:51
by being high ranking,
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來增加繁殖的成功,
08:53
you get automatically the ambition to be high ranking in the males.
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雄性自動就會有野心 想要取得高的等級排名。
08:57
So that's the privilege.
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所以,那是項特權。
09:00
The costs, one cost is of course
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至於代價,其中一項當然就是
09:03
that you need to keep your partners happy.
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你得要讓你的伙伴開心。
09:05
So if you come to power with the support of an old male,
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如果你是因為老的雄猩猩支持 才得以取得權力,
09:09
you need to let that old male mate with females.
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你就得讓那隻老的雄猩猩 和雌猩猩交配。
09:12
If you don't do that, that old male is going to get mad at you,
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如果不這麼做,那隻 老的雄猩猩就會生你的氣,
09:15
and you're going to lose him as a partner.
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你就會失去這個伙伴。
09:18
So there's a transaction going on.
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所以,這可說是一項交易。
09:20
If you become alpha male this way, you need to keep your partners happy.
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如果你用這種方式成為雄性領袖, 你就得要讓你的伙伴開心。
09:24
And so that's one of the costs.
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那是其中一項代價。
09:25
The second cost is that everyone wants your position.
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第二項代價是大家都想要你的位置。
09:29
Alpha male position is a very important position,
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雄性領袖的位置非常重要,
09:31
and everyone wants to take it from you,
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大家都想從你手上將之奪走,
09:34
and so you constantly have to watch your back.
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所以你得要常常嚴防暗算。
09:36
You have to be extremely vigilant.
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你得要極度警戒。
09:38
For example, you have to disrupt the coalitions of others
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比如,你得去瓦解其他猩猩的聯盟,
09:40
and that's what male chimpanzees do quite a bit.
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雄猩猩常常會結盟。
09:43
Divide and rule strategies, they have.
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牠們有「分而治之」的策略。
09:45
And so that's a very stressful situation, and we actually have data on this.
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所以,那是個壓力非常大的情況, 我們有確實的相關資料佐證。
09:49
The data comes from the field,
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資料來自實地,
09:51
from baboons not chimpanzees in this case,
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這項研究的對象是狒狒, 而非黑猩猩,
09:54
where they did fecal samples on the baboons
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在研究中,他們取得 狒狒的糞便樣本,
09:56
and they analyzed them for glucocorticoids.
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他們分析樣本中的糖皮質激素。
09:59
And what you see here is a graph
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各位看到的這張圖中,
10:01
where you see that the lower ranking the male baboon is,
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當雄性狒狒的等級排名越低,
10:05
the higher is his cortisol level
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牠糞便中的皮質醇含量就會越高。
10:07
in the feces,
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10:09
but the alpha male, as you see,
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但各位可以看到,雄性領袖
10:11
has just as high a level as the lowest-ranking males,
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和最低等級排名的雄性狒狒 有一樣高的皮質醇含量。
10:14
and so you may think that being alpha male is nice and dandy and is wonderful,
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因此,各位可能認為身為 雄性領袖是很好很棒的一件事,
10:19
but it's actually a very stressful position,
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但那其實是個壓力很大的位置,
10:21
and we can demonstrate that physiologically.
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我們可以從生理層面 來展示這一點。
10:25
Now, what are the obligations?
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至於義務呢?有什麼義務?
10:27
And here, for me, it gets really interesting,
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對我來說,這就是 十分有趣的地方,
10:30
and it deviates very much from your typical image of the alpha male.
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這和各位對於雄性領袖的 典型形象認知有很大的差別。
10:35
The alpha male has two sorts of obligations.
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雄性領袖有兩種義務。
10:38
One is to keep the peace in the group.
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第一,是要維持群體中的和平。
10:40
We call that the control role,
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我們稱之為控制的角色,
10:42
to control fights in the group,
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控制群體中的打鬥,
10:44
and the second is to be the most empathic,
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第二,可以說是要當整個國度中
10:46
the consoler in chief, basically, of the nation, so to speak.
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最有同理心的主要安慰者。
10:49
So first of all, keeping the peace.
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所以,首先,維護和平。
10:51
This is a male who stops a fight between two females.
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這是一隻雄猩猩在阻止 兩隻雌猩猩的鬥爭。
10:54
Two females on the left and the right
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左邊和右邊的兩隻雌猩猩
10:56
have been screaming and yelling at each other over food,
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為了食物一直在對彼此吼叫,
10:59
because food is very important for the females,
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因為對雌猩猩來說,食物十分重要,
11:01
and so he stops the fight between them and stands between them like this.
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所以,這隻雄猩猩阻止牠們爭吵, 像這樣站在牠們之間。
11:05
And it's very interesting to me that alpha males, when they do this,
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我覺得很有趣的一點是, 當雄性領袖在做這件事時,
11:08
they become impartial.
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牠們能夠很公正。
11:10
They don't support their mom or their best buddy.
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牠們不會支持自己的母親 或是最好的朋友。
11:13
No, no, they stop fights,
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不會,牠們就是阻止鬥爭,
11:15
and they come up for the underdog in general.
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且一般來說牠們 會為劣勢的一方出頭。
11:17
And this makes them extremely popular in the group,
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這讓牠們在群體中非常受歡迎,
11:21
because they provide security
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因為牠們能提供安全感,
11:23
for the lowest-ranking members of the group.
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保護等級排名最低的群體成員。
11:25
And so they become impartial,
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所以,牠們就會變得很公正,
11:27
which is an unusual condition for a chimpanzee to be in,
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這在黑猩猩當中是很不尋常的,
11:30
because they're usually very fond of their friends and so on,
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因為牠們通常都非常 喜愛自己的朋友等等,
11:33
and these alpha males who are good at this,
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且非常擅於此道的雄性領袖
11:35
they can be very effective at keeping the peace in the group.
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能在群體中非常有效地維護和平。
11:38
And the second thing they do is they show empathy for others.
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牠們所做的第二件事, 就是展現對其他黑猩猩的同理。
11:41
Now, I do an enormous amount of research on empathy,
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我針對同理心做了很大量的研究,
11:44
and I don't have time to go into it,
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我沒有時間深入探討這主題,
11:45
but empathy is nowadays a topic that we study in rodents and dogs
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但現今,同理心是研究探討的主題,
針對齧齒目動物、犬類、
11:50
and elephants and primates,
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大象、靈長類動物,
11:52
all sorts of animals.
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各式各樣的動物。
11:54
And what you see here is two bonobos.
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各位看見的是兩隻倭黑猩猩。
11:56
The one in front
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前面的這一隻
在一場打鬥中被打得很慘。
11:59
has been beaten up in a fight.
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12:00
The one in the back puts her arms around her and consoles her.
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後面的那一隻把牠的 手臂繞過牠、安慰牠。
12:03
This is also actually how we measure empathy in young children,
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這其實就是我們用來測量 孩童同理心的方式,
12:07
by looking at how they respond to distressed individuals.
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我們會看孩童對於 沮喪的人有什麼反應。
12:11
And high-ranking males, they do a lot of this.
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高等級排名的雄性常常會這麼做。
12:13
High-ranking males provide an enormous amount of comfort in the group,
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高等級排名的雄性會 在群體中提供大量的安慰,
12:17
and they go to places where there are earthquakes
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雄性會到有地震的地方,
12:20
or hurricanes
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或有颶風的地方,
12:22
and they provide comfort.
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提供安慰。
12:23
The pope does this. The presidents do this.
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教宗這麼做。總統這麼做。
12:26
All the leaders in the world have to do this job.
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世界上所有的領導者 都得做這項工作。
12:28
The queen does it and so on.
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女王也會做,以此類推。
12:30
They all have to do this job,
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他們都得做這項工作,
12:31
so providing consolation, and that's a very important task.
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所以,提供安慰是一項 非常重要的工作任務。
12:35
And males who are good at these two,
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擅長做這兩件事的雄性,
12:37
keeping the peace and providing comfort,
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會維護和平也會提供安慰,
12:39
they become extremely popular leaders,
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就能成為非常受歡迎的領袖,
12:41
and there's actually some self-interest involved in it.
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其實這裡還涉及到一些自我利益。
12:44
They don't do it just for the group,
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這麼做的目的不只是為了群體,
12:46
because it also stabilizes their position.
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也是為了穩固自己的地位。
12:49
The more popular a male becomes as alpha male
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當雄性領袖變得越受歡迎,
12:52
and the more the rest of them respects them and looks up to them,
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且有越多其他成員尊敬、崇拜牠們,
12:56
the better their position is defended
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當有其他成員要向牠們挑戰時,
12:58
in case it's going to be challenged by somebody else,
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牠們的位置就更安全,
13:01
because then, of course, the whole group is going to support that male
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因為當發生這種狀況時, 當然整個群體都會支持牠,
因為大家都想要保有 一個對牠們好的領袖。
13:04
because they want to keep a leader who is good for them.
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所以,群體通常都 非常支持好的雄性領袖,
13:07
So the group is usually very supportive of males who are good leaders,
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13:10
and it's not supportive at all of bullies.
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且完全不支持惡霸。
13:13
And when bullies lose their position,
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當惡霸失去了牠們的位置,
13:14
they may end up in a very bad situation there.
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牠們的處境可能會非常糟。
13:17
This is data actually on the consolation behavior.
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這是關於安慰行為的資料。
13:20
This is data on consolation in chimpanzees,
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這些資料是黑猩猩的安慰行為資料,
13:23
and you see for the medium- and low-ranking individuals,
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各位可以看到, 中低等級排名的黑猩猩,
13:26
the females do more of it than the males.
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雌猩猩會比雄猩猩更常安慰。
13:28
This is basically the whole community.
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基本上,這是整個社群。
13:30
And this is true for all the mammal studies on empathy
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所有的哺乳動物同理心研究都發現
13:33
is that females have more of it than males.
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雌性會比雄性更常做出安慰行為。
13:35
But look at the alpha male.
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但,看看雄性領袖。
13:37
The alpha male does far more than anybody else.
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雄性領袖遠比任何成員 做的安慰行為都更多。
13:40
And so that's the data on alpha males being the consoler in chief, basically.
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基本上,資料呈現出的是 雄性領袖在擔任主要安慰者。
13:46
The last thing I want to say is something about alpha females.
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我想談的最後一件事, 和雌性領袖有關。
13:50
This is a picture of Mama, the alpha female in the Arnhem zoo
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這張照片中的是「媽媽」, 牠是阿納姆動物園中的雌性領袖,
13:53
where I used to work,
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我先前在那裡工作,
13:54
who is now all over the internet,
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牠現在在網路上火紅,
13:56
I think a hundred million clicks at the moment,
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她在 59 歲時過世的影片,
13:58
for a video of her dying at the age of 59,
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在那時應該有十萬次點閱了,
14:01
which happened last year.
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發生的時間是在去年。
14:02
And Mama was an absolute centrum of the group.
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媽媽是群體中的絕對中心。
14:05
So she was not physically capable of dominating the males.
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在身體上,牠並沒有 能力可以支配雄性。
14:10
She ranked below the males, but she was the center of the community,
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牠的等級排名比雄性還低, 但牠卻是社群的中心,
14:14
and if there was big trouble in the community,
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如果社群中出現大麻煩,
14:16
everyone would end up in the arms of Mama.
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大家最終都會以 得到媽媽的懷抱收場。
14:18
And so she was a very important figure.
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所以牠是個非常重要的角色。
14:20
And so I don't want to minimize the position of alpha females
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所以,我並不想把雌性領袖
在黑猩猩群體中的位置放到最低。
14:24
in the chimpanzee group.
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14:25
And then we have a species that is equally close to us
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另外還有一種物種跟我們的相近程度
14:28
as the chimpanzee, the bonobo.
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不輸給黑猩猩,就是倭黑猩猩。
14:30
We often forget about the bonobo, but the bonobos have a matriarchal society
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我們常常忘了倭黑猩猩, 但倭黑猩猩的社會是母權的社會,
14:35
and the alpha individual is a female, generally.
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一般來說,領袖的角色 是由雌性來擔任。
14:39
Generally, it's a female who is at the top of the community,
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一般來說,這個角色是 位在社群最頂端的雌性,
14:42
and we know much less about how this is done
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我們不是很了解 這個過程是如何的、
14:44
and how they get to that position, and what they do with it,
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牠們如何得到這個位置, 及要用這個位置做什麼,
14:47
because we know much less about bonobos in general.
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因為我們對於倭黑猩猩的 一般知識就比較缺乏。
14:50
But I do want to emphasize
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但我想要強調的是,
14:51
that the alpha in a group doesn't need to be a male,
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群體中的領袖不見得一定是雄性,
14:55
and that actually in one of our close relatives, it is a female.
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在與我們最接近的物種中, 就有一種的領袖是雌性。
14:59
So the message I want to leave you with
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我想要留給各位的訊息是,
15:01
is that if you are looking at men in our society
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如果對於我們人類社會中的男性,
15:07
who are the boss of, let's say,
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比如身為老大的男性,
15:09
a family or a business or Washington or whatever,
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不論是在家中、在企業中, 或在華府等等,
15:12
you call them alpha male,
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你稱他們為雄性領袖時,
15:15
you should not insult chimpanzees
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你不該用錯誤的標籤
15:17
by using the wrong label.
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來侮辱黑猩猩。
15:19
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
15:20
You should not call a bully an alpha male.
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不要把惡霸稱為雄性領袖。
15:23
Someone who is big and strong and intimidates and insults everyone
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如果這個人個頭很大、很強壯、 會威嚇人,且會侮辱大家,
15:27
is not necessarily an alpha male.
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他不見得就是雄性領袖。
15:29
An alpha male has all sorts of qualities,
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雄性領袖有各式各樣的特質,
15:31
and I have seen bully alpha males in chimpanzees,
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我曾在黑猩猩中看過 惡霸型的雄性領袖,
15:34
they do occur,
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確實有,
15:35
but most of the ones that we have
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但大部分我們看見的雄性領袖
15:38
have leadership capacities
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都具有領導能力,
15:40
and are integrated in their community,
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且和牠們的社群結合成為一體,
15:42
and, like Amos at the end,
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就像艾莫斯,到了最後,
15:44
they are loved and respected,
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還是受到愛戴和尊敬的,
15:45
and so it's a very different situation than you may think.
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這和各位的想法可能有很大的差異。
15:48
And I thank you.
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謝謝各位。
15:50
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
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