This is what democracy looks like | Anthony D. Romero

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翻译人员: Conway Ye 校对人员: Yanyan Hong
00:12
Silicon Valley is obsessed with disruption,
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硅谷一直热衷于动乱,
00:16
but these days, the biggest disruptor didn't come out of Silicon Valley.
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但是目前,最大的动乱不是来自硅谷,
00:20
It came out of steel towns in Ohio,
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来自俄亥俄州的钢铁镇,
00:24
rural communities in Pennsylvania,
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宾西夕法利亚的农村地区,
00:27
the Panhandle in Florida.
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以及佛罗里达走廊地带。
00:30
And this last US presidential election
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而最近的一次美国大选,
00:33
was the mother of all disruptions.
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是所有动乱的开端。
00:36
Once again, politics is personal.
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政治再一次将个人卷入其中,
00:40
Millions of Americans became activists overnight,
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数百万的美国人 一夜之间成为活动家,
00:44
pouring into the streets in record numbers
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巨大的人潮在极短的时间内
00:47
in record time.
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涌上街头。
00:48
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
00:50
The election has done to family holiday dinners
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这场选举给家庭聚会带来的影响
00:52
what Uber has done to New York City's taxi system.
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堪比优步对纽约出租车行业的影响。
00:57
Couples have broken up and marriages disrupted.
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夫妻反目,婚姻告急。
01:01
And the election is doing to my private life
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而这场选举对我个人生活的影响,
01:04
what Amazon is doing to shopping malls.
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正如亚马逊对购物中心的影响一样。
01:06
These days, the ACLU is on the front lines 24/7,
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现在,美国民权同盟时刻处在最前线,
01:11
and even if I manage to sneak away for a couple of miles on the treadmill,
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即使我能抽出时间 在跑步机上跑上几英里,
01:17
any cardio benefit I get is instantly obliterated
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当我在头版上 又看到一条总统的推特时,
01:20
when I read another presidential tweet on the headline scroll.
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有氧运动带来的好处 马上就被抵消掉了。
01:26
Even my secret pleasure
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甚至我研究意大利画家
01:28
of studying the Italian painters
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的秘密乐趣,
01:31
have been infected by politics.
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也被政治给影响了。
01:34
Now, I study, even stalk, the old masters.
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我的工作就是研究, 甚至追踪那些早期的绘画大师。
01:38
This is my desk,
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这是我的办公桌,
01:39
with a postcard exhibition
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上面展示了一些印有
01:41
of some famous and obscure paintings
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著名的或不为人知的画作的明信片,
01:43
mostly from the Italian Renaissance.
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大多数来自意大利文艺复兴时期。
01:46
Now, art used to provide me with a necessary break
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我在美国民权同盟的日常工作中
01:48
from the hurly-burly of politics
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所面对的喧嚣躁动的政治之外,
01:50
in my daily work at the ACLU,
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艺术总能给我带来一些必要的休息,
01:53
but not anymore.
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但是现在却再也不能了。
01:55
I was at the Women's March in San Francisco
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就职典礼的第二天,
01:57
the day after inauguration,
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我在旧金山女性游行的队伍中,
01:59
and the crowd was chanting, "This is what democracy looks like."
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群众高喊“这就是民主的模样。”
02:02
"This is what democracy looks like."
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“这就是民主的模样。”
02:05
And there I was holding my sign and my umbrella in the rain,
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我在雨中举着伞和标语,
02:09
and I flashed on an old painting
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脑中突然闪过了一张
02:13
that first captivated me many years ago.
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很多年前让我着迷的画作,
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I struggled to remember the different pieces
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我艰难地拼凑着
02:19
of an actual painting
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那幅描述好政府和坏政府的
02:22
of good and bad government.
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主题画作。
02:24
It was almost like the old master was taunting me.
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就像是某位绘画大师在嘲弄我,
02:28
You want to know what democracy looks like?
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你想知道民主的模样?
02:30
Go back and look at my frescoes.
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那就回来看看我的壁画。
02:33
And so I did.
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我照做了。
02:35
In 1339, Ambrogio Lorenzetti finished a monumental commission
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1339年,安布罗吉奥·洛伦泽蒂 在锡耶纳市政厅
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in the governing council chamber of Siena's Palazzo Pubblico.
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完成了一幅不朽的作品。
02:45
It's a painting that speaks to us, even screams to us, today.
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那是一幅至今仍在 对我们诉说甚至呐喊的画作。
02:52
"Art is a lie that makes us realize truth,"
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“艺术是一种诉说真理的谎言,”
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Pablo Picasso once said.
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巴勃罗·毕加索曾这样说。
02:58
And as we search for the truth about government,
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而当我们寻找关于政府的真相时,
03:00
we should keep Ambrogio's work,
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我们应当用我们的集体意识,
03:02
not a lie but an allegory, in our collective mind's eye.
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将安布罗吉奥的画 看作一种寓言而不是谎言。
03:08
During Lorenzetti's time,
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在洛伦泽蒂生活的时代,
03:09
the political legitimacy of Italian city-states
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意大利城邦的政治合法性
03:13
was often on very shaky ground.
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经常岌岌可危。
03:15
Siena was a republic,
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锡耶纳曾经是一个共和国,
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but there had been enormous unrest
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但是在这幅画作
03:19
in the two decades leading up to the commission.
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完成之前的二十年 一直处于巨大的动荡中。
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Siena's political leaders, who would literally govern
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锡耶纳的政治领袖们,也就是那些
03:25
under the eyes of these allegorical figures,
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将在这张画中人的眼皮底下 治理国家的人,
03:28
were Lorenzetti's intended audience.
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正是洛伦泽蒂的目标观众。
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He was cataloging the obligations
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他编排出了
03:33
of the governing to the governed.
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统治者对被统治者的义务。
03:38
Now, you can spend years studying these frescoes.
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你可以花费数年的时间 去研究这些壁画。
03:41
Some scholars have.
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一些学者也这样做了。
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I'm hardly an art historian,
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我称不上是一个艺术史学家,
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but I am passionate about art,
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但是我对艺术充满热情,
03:47
and a work this massive can overwhelm me.
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而这么一项巨大的工作 会让我应接不暇。
03:50
So first, I focus on the big stuff.
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所以首先,我专注于大的方面,
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This is the allegory of good government.
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这是好政府的寓言。
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The majestic figure here in the middle
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中间这个庄严的人物,
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is dressed in Siena's colors
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他的衣服是锡耶纳的颜色,
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and he personifies the republic itself.
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他是这个共和国的化身。
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Lorenzetti labels him "Commune,"
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洛伦泽蒂称他为“公社”,
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and he's basically telling the Sienese
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他主要是在告诉锡耶纳人,
04:13
that they, and not a king or a tyrant, must rule themselves.
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他们才是统治者, 而不是某个国王或暴君,
04:18
Now, surrounding Commune are his advisors.
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在公社周围的是他的顾问。
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Justice is enthroned.
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正义女神坐在王座上。
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She's looking up at the figure of wisdom,
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正仰望着智慧女神,
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who actually supports her scales of justice.
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智慧女神帮她维持着正义天秤。
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Concord, or Harmony,
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和谐女神,
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holds a string that comes off the scales of justice
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抓着从正义天秤上垂下来的线,
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that binds her to the citizens,
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这线将她与民众连在一起,
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making them all compatriots in the republic.
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使他们成为共和国的同胞。
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And finally we see Peace.
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最后我们来看看和平女神,
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She looks chilled out,
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她看起来很放松,
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like she's listening to Bob Marley.
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就像是在听鲍勃·马利演唱。
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When good government rules,
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在好政府的统治下,
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Peace doesn't break a sweat.
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和平女神不需要汗流夹背。
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Now, these are big images and big ideas,
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这是一些大的图像和看法,
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but I really love the small stuff.
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但是我很喜欢小东西。
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Along another wall,
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沿着另一面墙,
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Lorenzetti illustrates the effects of good government
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洛伦泽蒂用普通民众的日常生活
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on the real and everyday lives of ordinary people
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加上一系列精致的小细节,
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with a series of delicious little details.
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阐明了好政府的影响。
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In the countryside, the hills are landscaped and farmed.
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在乡村,山地都被美化并被开垦,
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Crops are being sown, hoed, reaped, milled, plowed,
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庄稼的播种、锄草、 收割、碾磨以及土地的翻耕,
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all in one picture.
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都在同一张画图中呈现出来了。
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Crops and livestock are being brought to market.
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庄稼和牲畜被拿到市场上去,
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In the city, builders raise a tower.
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在城市里,建设者们正在修建一座塔,
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People attend a law lecture, a TED Talk of the 14th century.
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人们正在参加一场法律讲座, 好比是14世纪的TED演讲。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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Schoolchildren play.
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学童们正在玩耍。
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Tradesmen thrive.
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商人正在繁忙地交易。
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Dancers larger than life dance with joy.
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高大的舞者欢乐地跳着舞。
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And watching over the republic is the winged figure Security,
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而在共和国上空注视着一切的 是插着翅膀的守护女神。
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whose banner reads,
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她手上的横幅上写着,
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"Everyone shall go forth freely without fear."
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“所有人都应当 毫无畏惧地自由前行。”
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Now, what's amazing about these images from 800 years ago
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这些800年前的场景 最奇妙的地方是,
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is that they're familiar to us today.
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对于今天的我们来说是很熟悉的。
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We see what democracy looks like.
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我们看到了民主的面貌。
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We experience the effects of good government in our lives,
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我们经历着好政府 给我们的生活带来的影响,
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just as Lorenzetti did in his life.
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就像洛泽蒂 在他生命中所作的画一样。
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But it is the allegory of bad government
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但是自11月9日以来 一直萦绕在我心头的
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that has been haunting me since November 9.
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却是一个坏政府的故事。
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It's badly damaged,
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它已经被严重损毁,
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but it reads like today's newspapers.
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但是读起来就像是今天的新闻。
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And ruling over bad government is not the Commune
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统治坏政府的不是公社,
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but the Tyrant.
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而是暴君。
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He has horns, tusks, crossed eyes,
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他长着犄角、獠牙 还有一双斗鸡眼,
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braided hair.
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以及编织过的头发。
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He obviously spends a lot of time on that hair.
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很显然他在头发上 花费了很多时间。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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Justice now lies helpless at his feet,
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正义女神无助地靠在他的脚下,
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shackled.
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戴着镣铐。
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Her scales have been severed.
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她的正义天秤也被切断了。
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Justice is the key antagonist to the Tyrant,
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正义女神是暴君的主要敌手,
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and she's been taken out.
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而她却出局了。
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Now, surrounding the Tyrant,
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现在在暴君周围,
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Lorenzetti illustrates the vices that animate bad government.
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洛伦泽蒂描绘了 控制着坏政府的恶人,
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Avarice is the old woman clutching the strongbox
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代表贪婪的是 一手拿着保险箱、
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and a fisherman's hook
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一手用鱼钩把财产钩进去
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to pull in her fortune.
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的老女人。
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Vainglory carries a mirror,
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虚荣心拿着一面镜子,
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and Lorenzetti warns us against narcissistic leaders
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洛伦洛蒂警视我们要反对那些
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who are guided by their own ego and vanity.
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被自己的自负和虚荣 所迷惑的孤芳自赏的领袖。
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On the Tyrant's right is Cruelty.
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在暴君右边的是残酷。
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Treason, half lamb, half scorpion,
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半羊半蝎的不忠,
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lulls us into a false sense of security
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诱使我们进入一个安全的假象中,
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and then poisons a republic.
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然后毒害一个共和国。
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Fraud, with the flighty wings of a bat.
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欺骗,长着一对轻浮的蝠冀。
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On the Tyrant's left, you see Division.
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在暴君的左边,是分裂。
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She's dressed in Siena's colors.
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她穿着锡耶纳的颜色。
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"Si" and "No" are painted on her body.
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她的身上喷着“Si"和“No"。
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She uses a carpenter's saw to chop her body in half.
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她用一把锯 把自己的身体锯成两半。
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And Fury wields the weapons of the mob,
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暴怒挥舞着暴徒的武器,
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the stone and knife.
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石头和刀。
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In the remainder of the fresco, Lorenzetti shows us
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在壁画的剩余部分, 洛伦泽蒂向我们展示了
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the inevitable effects of bad government.
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坏政府的必然结果。
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The civic ideals celebrated elsewhere in this room have failed us,
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在别处能成功实现的公民理想 在这却不尽如人意,
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and we see it.
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而我们也看到了这一点。
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The once beautiful city has fallen to pieces,
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这座曾经美丽的城市 最终支离破碎。
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the countryside barren,
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乡村荒芜了,
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the farms abandoned.
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农场荒废了。
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Many are in flames.
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很多东西都在燃烧。
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And in the sky above is not the winged figure Security,
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天空之上不再是 长着翅膀的守护之神,
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but that of Fear, whose banner reads:
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而是恐惧,它的条幅上写着:
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"None shall pass along this road
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“没有人能不怀着对死亡的恐惧,
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without fear of death."
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去通过这条路。”
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Now, the final image, the most important one, really,
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最后的一幅画, 也是最重要的一幅,
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is one that Lorenzetti did not paint.
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是洛伦泽蒂不曾画出来的,
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It is of the viewer.
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也就是看到这幅画的观众。
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Today, the audience for Lorenzetti's frescoes
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今天,洛伦泽蒂壁画的观众,
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is not the governing but the governed,
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已经不是统治者,而是被统治者,
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the individual who stands in front of his allegories
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是那些站在他的壁画前
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and walks away with insight,
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洞悉一切后又离开,
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who heeds a call to action.
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并留意到它的行动号召的个体。
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Lorenzetti warns us that we must recognize the shadows
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洛伦泽蒂警告我们, 贪婪、欺骗、分裂甚至暴政,
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of Avarice, Fraud, Division, even Tyranny
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正漂浮在我们的政治系统里,
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when they float across our political landscape,
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我们必须要认清这些幽灵,
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especially when those shadows are cast
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特别是当这些幽灵是 由那些大声宣称
09:29
by political leaders loudly claiming to be the voice of good government
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代表好政府的声音, 并承诺让美国再一次伟大
09:34
and promising to make America great again.
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的政治领袖们扮演的时候。
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And we must act.
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我们必须行动起来。
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Democracy must not be a spectator sport.
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民主不能成为 一项观赏性体育运动。
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The right to protest, the right to assemble freely,
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游行的权利、自由集会的权利、
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the right to petition one's government,
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向政府请愿的权利,
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these are not just rights.
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这些不仅仅是权利。
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In the face of Avarice, Fraud and Division,
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在贪婪、欺骗和分裂面前,
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these are obligations.
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这些都是义务。
09:54
We have to disrupt --
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我们必须打破——
09:56
(Applause)
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(掌声)
10:01
We have to disrupt our lives
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我们必须打破现有的生活,
10:03
so that we can disrupt
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这样我们才能破坏和阻止,
10:05
the amoral accretion of power
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那些可能背叛 我们的价值观的人,
10:08
by those who would betray our values.
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他们会通过非道德的方式 加强自己的权力。
10:12
We and we the people
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我们和我们的人民,
10:14
must raise justice up
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必须高举正义的旗帜,
10:16
and must bring peace to our nation
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必须为我们的国家带来和平,
10:18
and must come together in concord,
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必须和谐共处,
10:20
and we have a choice.
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而这一切都取决于我们的决定。
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We could either paint ourselves
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我们要么将自己画进
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into the worst nightmare of Lorenzetti's bad government,
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洛伦泽蒂的最糟糕的 坏政府的噩梦中,
10:29
or we can stay in the streets,
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要么站上街头,
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disruptive, messy, loud.
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大声喊出我们的心声,
10:35
That is what democracy looks like.
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这才是民主的模样。
10:38
Thank you.
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谢谢。
10:40
(Applause)
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(掌声)
10:51
Chris Anderson: First of all, wow.
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克里斯·安德森: 首先,哇。
10:53
Obviously, many people passionately --
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很明显,有很多充满热情的人
10:55
you spoke to many people passionately here.
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听到了你刚刚的演讲。
10:57
I'm sure there are other people here
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但是我肯定这里还有另外一种人,
10:59
who'd say, look, Trump was elected by 63 million people.
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他们会说,特朗普是 6300万美国人民选出来的。
11:04
He's far from perfect,
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他可能不完美,
11:05
but he's trying to do what he was elected to do.
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但是他正在努力的 去做好这个总统。
11:08
Shouldn't you give him a chance?
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你不应该再给他一个机会吗?
11:10
Anthony Romero: I think we have to recognize
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安东尼·罗梅罗: 我想我们必须分清,
11:12
the legitimacy of him as president
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他作为总统的合法性,
11:15
versus the legitimacy of his policies.
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跟他的政策的合法性。
11:18
And when so many of the policies are contrary to fundamental values,
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当他的很多政策都 背离我们的基本价值观时,
11:24
that we're all equal under the law,
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即法律面前人人平等,
11:26
that we're not judged by the color of our skin or the religion we worship,
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以及不能以肤色或 宗教信仰来评判我们,
11:29
we have to contest those values
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我们必须捍卫这些价值观,
11:32
even as we recognize and honor the fact
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正如我们承认并尊重, 我们的民主
11:34
that our democracy rendered us a president who is championing those values.
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给我们挑出的是一个 拥护这些价值观的总统这一事实。
11:40
CA: And the ACLU isn't just this force on the left, right?
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安德森:美国民权同盟不仅仅 是左派的重要力量,对吗?
11:44
You're making other arguments as well.
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关于其它的问题也有争论。
11:46
AR: Well, you know,
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罗梅罗:这么说吧,
11:49
very often we piss everyone off at one point.
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我们经常时不时地惹恼所有人。
11:51
That's what we do.
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这就是我们所做的。
11:52
And we recently were taking stands
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我们最近在拥护确保 安·库尔特
11:55
for why Ann Coulter needs to be able to speak at Berkeley,
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能够在伯克利发表演讲,以及
11:58
and why Milo has free speech rights.
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为什么麦洛拥有自由演讲的权利。
12:01
And we even wrote a blog
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我们甚至写了一篇博客,
12:02
that almost burnt the house down among some of our members,
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在我们的内部引发激烈讨论,
12:06
unfortunately, when we talked about the fact
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不幸的是,我们认识到,
12:08
that even Donald Trump has free speech rights as president,
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作为总统,特朗普也有自由言论权,
12:11
and an effort to hold him accountable
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把他的行为
12:14
for incitement of violence at his marches or his rallies
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当成暴力游行和集会的理由,
12:18
is unconstitutional and un-American.
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也是违反宪法和美国精神的。
12:21
And when you put that statement out there
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当你对外夸夸其谈,
12:24
to a very frothy base
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对抗特朗普很令你激动,
12:25
that always is very excited for you to fight Donald Trump,
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但是有人会说
12:29
and then you have a new one saying, "Wait, these rights are for everybody,
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“等等,这些权利所有人都有。
12:32
even the president that we don't like."
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甚至我们不喜欢的总统也是。”
12:34
And that's our job.
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这才是我们要做的。
12:36
(Applause)
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(掌声)
12:39
CA: Anthony, you spoke to so many of us so powerfully.
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安德森:安东尼, 你的演讲非常有感染力。
12:41
Thank you so much. Thank you.
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谢谢。
12:43
(Applause)
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