A lyrical bridge between past, present and future | David Whyte

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Prevodilac: Milenka Okuka Lektor: Mile Živković
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The youthful perspective on the future,
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Mladalački pogled na budućnost,
sadašnji pogled na budućnost
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the present perspective on the future
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00:19
and the future, mature perspective on the future --
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i budući, zreli pogled na budućnost -
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I'd like to try and bring all those three tenses together
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želeo bih večeras da pokušam da spojim sva tri vremena
00:28
in one identity tonight.
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u jedan identitet.
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And you could say that the poet, in many ways,
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A moglo bi se reći da pesnik, na razne načine,
00:34
looks at what I call "the conversational nature of reality."
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posmatra nešto što nazivam "konverzacijskom prirodom stvarnosti".
A vi se pitate:
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And you ask yourself:
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00:40
What is the conversational nature of reality?
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šta je konverzacijska priroda stvarnosti?
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The conversational nature of reality is the fact
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Konverzacijska priroda stvarnosti je činjenica
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that whatever you desire of the world --
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da šta god želeli od sveta -
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whatever you desire of your partner in a marriage or a love relationship,
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šta god želeli od vašeg partnera, u braku ili ljubavnoj vezi,
šta god želeli od vaše dece,
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whatever you desire of your children,
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šta god želeli od ljudi koji rade za vas ili s vama,
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whatever you desire of the people who work for you or with you,
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00:59
or your world --
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ili od vašeg sveta -
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will not happen exactly as you would like it to happen.
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neće se desiti tačno onako kako biste vi želeli da se desi.
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But equally,
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Ali jednako,
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whatever the world desires of us --
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šta god svet želeo od vas -
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whatever our partner, our child, our colleague,
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šta god naš partner, naše dete, naš kolega,
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our industry,
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naša industrija,
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our future demands of us,
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naša budućnost budu zahtevali od nas,
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will also not happen.
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takođe se neće desiti.
A ono što se stvarno dešava
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And what actually happens
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is this frontier between what you think is you
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je ova granica između onoga što vi smatrate sobom
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and what you think is not you.
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i onoga što smatrate da niste vi.
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And this frontier of actual meeting
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A ova granica stvarnog susreta
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between what we call a self and what we call the world
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između onoga što nazivamo sobom i onoga što nazivamo svetom
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is the only place, actually, where things are real.
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je zapravo jedino mesto na kom je sve stvarno.
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But it's quite astonishing,
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Ali prilično je zadivljujuće
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how little time we spend at this conversational frontier,
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koliko malo vremena provodimo na ovoj konverzacijskoj granici,
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and not abstracted away from it in one strategy or another.
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a nismo odvojeni od nje jednom ili drugom strategijom.
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I was coming through immigration,
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Prolazio sam kroz imigraciono odeljenje,
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which is quite a dramatic border at the moment,
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a to je trenutno prilično dramatična granica,
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into the US last year,
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u SAD-u prošle godine
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and, you know, you get off an international flight
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i, znate, siđete sa međunarodnog leta
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across the Atlantic,
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preko Atlantika
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and you're not in the best place;
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i niste u najboljem stanju;
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you're not at your most spiritually mature.
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niste najzreliji duhom.
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You're quite impatient with the rest of humanity, in fact.
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Prilično ste nestrpljivi prema ostatku čovečanstva, zapravo.
Pa kad dođete do imigracionog sa podignutom kragnom od košulje
02:12
So when you get up to immigration with your shirt collar out
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02:16
and a day's growth of beard,
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i bradom starom jedan dan
i imate veoma malo strpljenja,
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and you have very little patience,
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02:21
and the immigration officer looked at my passport
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a imigracioni službenik mi je pogledao pasoš
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and said, "What do you do, Mr. Whyte?"
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i upitao: "Čime se bavite, g. Vajt?"
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I said, "I work with the conversational nature of reality."
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Rekao sam: "Radim sa konverzacijskom prirodom stvarnosti."
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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And he leaned forward over his podium
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A on se nagnuo preko pulta
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and he said, "I needed you last night."
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i rekao: "Bili ste mi potrebni sinoć."
02:42
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
02:44
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
02:48
And I said, "I'm sorry,
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A rekao sam: "Žao mi je,
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my powers as a poet and philosopher only go so far.
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moje pesničke i filozofske moći su tek tolike.
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I'm not sure I can --"
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Nisam siguran da mogu -"
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But before we knew it,
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No, očas posla
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we were into a conversation about his marriage.
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smo raspravljali o njegovom braku.
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Here he was in his uniform,
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Stajao je tu u uniformi,
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and the interesting thing was,
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a interesantno je to
što je gledao u red policajaca uzduž i popreko
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he was looking up and down the row of officers
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to make sure his supervisor didn't see
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kako bi se postarao da njegovi nadređeni ne primete
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that we was having a real conversation.
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da vodi pravi razgovor.
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But all of us live at this conversational frontier
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Ali svi mi živimo na ovoj konverzacijskoj granici
sa budućnošću.
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with the future.
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03:16
I'd like to put you in the shoes of my Irish niece,
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Želeo bih da vas stavim na mesto moje nećake iz Irske,
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Marlene McCormack,
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Marlin Mekormak,
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standing on a cliff edge on the western coast of Spain,
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dok stoji na ivici stene na zapadnoj obali Španije,
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overlooking the broad Atlantic.
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posmatrajući široki Atlantik.
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Twenty-three years old, she's just walked 500 miles
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Dvadeset tri su joj godine, upravo je prešla 800 kilometara
iz Sen-Žan-Pje-de-Pora, sa francuske strane Pirineja,
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from Saint Jean Pied de Port on the French side of the Pyrenees,
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all the way across Northern Spain,
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skroz preko Severne Španije,
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on this very famous, old and contemporary pilgrimage
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na tom veoma čuvenom, starom i savremenom hodočašću,
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called the Camino de Santiago de Compostela --
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koje se naziva Kamino de Santijago de Kompostela -
Put za Santijago de Kompostelu.
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the Path to Santiago of Compostela.
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And when you get to Santiago, actually,
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A kada zapravo stignete u Santijago,
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it can be something of an anticlimax,
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može da deluje antiklimaktično
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because there are 100,000 people living there
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jer tamo živi 100.000 ljudi
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who are not necessarily applauding you as you're coming into town.
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koji vam baš i ne aplaudiraju dok ulazite u grad.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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And 10,000 of them are trying to sell you a memento of your journey.
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A 10.000 njih pokušava da vam proda uspomenu na vaše putovanje.
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But you do have the possibility of going on for three more days
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Ali imate mogućnost da još tri dana hodate
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to this place where Marlene stood, called, in Spanish, Finisterre,
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do tog mesta na kom je Marlin stajala, koje se na španskom zove Finisterre,
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in English, Finisterre,
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u prevodu, Finistere,
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from the Latin, meaning "the ends of the earth,"
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što na latinskom znači "kraj zemlje",
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the place where ground turns to ocean;
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mesto gde se zemlja pretvara u okean;
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the place where your present turns into the future.
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mesto gde se vaša sadašnjost pretvara u budućnost.
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And Marlene had walked this way --
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A Marlin je prešla ovaj put -
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she just graduated as a 23-year-old from the University of Sligo
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upravo je sa 23 godine diplomirala na Univerzitetu Slajgo
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with a degree in Irish drama.
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na odseku za irsku dramu.
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And she said to me, "I don't think the major corporations of the world
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I rekla mi je: "Mislim da mi velike svetske korporacije
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will be knocking on my door."
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neće kucati na vrata."
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I said, "Listen, I've worked in corporations all over the world
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Rekao sam: "Slušaj, radio sam u korporacijama širom sveta
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for decades;
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decenijama;
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a degree in drama is what would most prepare you for the adult --
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diploma iz dramaturgije je nešto što te najbolje priprema za korporativni -
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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corporate world."
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svet odraslih."
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(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
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But she said, "I'm not interested in that, anyway.
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No, rekla je: "To me ionako ne zanima.
Ne želim da predajem dramu, želim da postanem dramaturškinja.
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I don't want to teach drama, I want to become a dramatist.
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05:01
I want to write plays.
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Želim da pišem drame.
Pa sam hodala do Kamina kako bih sebi dala podstreka,
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So I walked the Camino in order to give myself some courage,
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05:08
in order to walk into my future."
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kako bih ušetala u budućnost."
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And I said, "What was the most powerful moment you had on the whole Camino,
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A upitao sam: "Koji je najsnažniji trenutak koji si imala na čitavom putu,
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the very most powerful moment?"
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naj-najsnažniji trenutak?"
Rekla je: "Imala sam brojne snažne trenutke,
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She said, "I had many powerful moments,
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ali, znaš, najsnažniji trenutak se desio nakon Puta,
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but you know, the most powerful moment was post-Camino,
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to je trodnevni hod od Santijaga do ove ivice stene.
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was the three days you go on from Santiago and come to this cliff edge.
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05:26
And you go through three rituals.
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I prolaziš kroz tri obreda.
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The first ritual is to eat a tapas plate of scallops" --
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Prvi obred je da se pojede tanjir tapasa od školjki" -
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or if you're vegetarian,
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ili ako ste vegetarijanac
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to contemplate the scallop shell.
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da posmatrate ljusku školjke.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
Zato što je ljuska školjke simbol i značka vašeg hoda,
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Because the scallop shell has been the icon and badge of your walk,
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05:42
and every arrow that you have seen along that way
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i svaka strelica koju ste usput videli
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has been pointing underneath a scallop shell.
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pokazivala je smer ispod ljuske školjke.
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So really, this first ritual is saying:
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Pa je uistinu prvi ritual pitao:
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How did you get to this place?
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kako ste stigli do ovog mesta?
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How did you follow the path to get here?
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Kako ste pratili stazu da biste stigli tu?
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How do you hold the conversation of life when you feel unbesieged,
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Kako održavate životni razgovor kada ste neopkoljeni,
kada ste nezastrašeni,
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when you're unbullied,
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06:03
when you're left to yourself?
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kada ste prepušteni sebi?
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How do you hold the conversation of life that brings you to this place?
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Kako vodite životni razgovor koji vas dovodi do ovog mesta?
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And the second ritual is that you burn something that you've brought.
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A drugi obred je da spalite nešto što ste doneli.
Upitao sam: "Šta si spalila, Marlin?"
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I said, "What did you burn, Marlene?"
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06:17
She said, "I burned a letter and two postcards."
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Rekla je: "Spalila sam pismo i dve razglednice."
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I said, "Astonishing.
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Rekao sam: "Izvanredno.
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Twenty-three years old and you have paper.
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Imaš 23 godine i koristiš papir.
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I can't believe it."
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Ne mogu da verujem."
(Smeh)
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(Laughter)
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06:26
I'm sure there's a Camino app
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Siguran sam da ima aplikacija Kamino,
gde prosto možete da izbrišete traumatičnu poruku, znate?
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where you can just delete a traumatic text, you know?
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06:32
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
Pokrenuće svetleću baklju,
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It will engage the flashlight,
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prožeće je bojom
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imbue it with color
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06:37
and disappear in a firework of flames.
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i nestati u vatrometu plamenova.
Međutim, donesete pismo ili ga napišete tamo
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But you either bring a letter or you write one there,
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06:45
and you burn it.
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i spalite ga.
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And of course we know intuitively what is on those letters and postcards.
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I, naravno, intuitivno znamo šta je u tim pismima i razglednicama.
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It's a form of affection and love that is now no longer extant, yeah?
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Radi se o vidu naklonosti i ljubavi koji je sad već nepostojeći, da?
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And then the third ritual:
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A potom treći obred:
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between all these fires are large piles of clothes.
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između svih tih vatri su ogromne hrpe odeće.
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And you leave an item of clothing
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I ostavite deo odeće
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that has helped you to get to this place.
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koji vam je pomogao da stignete do tu.
Upitao sam Marlin: "Šta si ostavila na ivici stene?"
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And I said to Marlene, "What did you leave at the cliff edge?"
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Rekla je: "Ostavila sam čizme -
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She said, "I left my boots --
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the very things that I walked in, actually.
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baš ono u čemu sam hodala, zapravo.
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They were beautiful boots, I loved those boots,
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Bile su to lepe čizme, volela sam te čizme,
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but they were finished after seven weeks of walking.
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ali bile su potrošene nakon sedam nedelja hodanja.
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So I walked away in my trainers,
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Pa sam odšetala u patikama,
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but I left my boots there."
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a čizme sam ostavila tamo."
Rekla je: "Uistinu je bilo neverovatno.
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She said, "It was really incredible.
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07:29
The most powerful moment was, the sun was going down,
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Najsnažniji trenutak je bio: sunce je zalazilo,
07:33
but the full moon was coming up behind me.
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ali je izlazio pun mesec iza mene.
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And the full moon was illuminated by the dying sun in such a powerful way
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Međutim, pun mesec je bio osvetljen umirućim suncem toliko snažno
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that even after the sun had dropped below the horizon,
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da čak i nakon što se sunce spustilo ispod horizonta,
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the moon could still see that sun.
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mesec je i dalje mogao da vidi sunce.
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And I had a moon shadow,
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A ja sam imala senku od mesečine,
i posmatrala sam moju senku od mesečine kako šeta preko Atlantika,
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and I was looking at my moon shadow walking across the Atlantic,
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across this ocean.
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preko okeana.
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And I thought,
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I pomislila sam:
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'Oh! That's my new self going into the future.'
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'Ah! To je novo ja koje odlazi u budućnost.'
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But suddenly I realized the sun was falling further.
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Međutim, naglo sam shvatila da sunce i dalje ponire.
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The moon was losing its reflection,
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Mesec je gubio svoj odsjaj,
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and my shadow was disappearing.
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a moja senka je nestajala.
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The most powerful moment I had on the whole Camino
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Najsnažniji trenutak koji sam imala na čitavom Putu
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was when I realized I myself had to walk across that unknown sea
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je kad sam shvatila da lično moram da pređem nepoznato more
08:24
into my future."
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do moje budućnosti."
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Well, I was so taken by this story,
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Pa, ova priča me je toliko opčinila
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I wrote this piece for her.
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da sam joj posvetio pesmu.
Ovo se dešavalo dok smo se vozili;
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We were driving at the time;
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we got home, I sat on the couch,
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stigli smo kući, seo sam na kauč,
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I wrote until two in the morning --
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pisao sam do dva ujutru -
svi su bili pošli u krevet -
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everyone had gone to bed --
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08:37
and I gave it to Marlene at breakfast time.
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i dao sam je Marlin za vreme doručka.
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It's called, "Finisterre," for Marlene McCormack.
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Naslovljena je: "Finistere", za Marlin Mekormak.
08:46
"The road in the end
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"Put na koncu
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the road in the end taking the path the sun had taken
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put na koncu prati stazu koju sunce je pratilo
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the road in the end taking the path the sun had taken
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put na koncu prati stazu koju sunce je pratilo
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into the western sea
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u zapadno more
08:58
the road in the end taking the path the sun had taken
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put na koncu prati stazu koju sunce je pratilo
09:01
into the western sea
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u zapadno more
09:03
and the moon
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a mesec
09:04
the moon rising behind you
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mesec izlazi iza tebe
dok stojiš tu gde zemlja postaje okean:
09:07
as you stood where ground turned to ocean:
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09:11
no way to your future now
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nema puta do tvoje budućnosti sad
09:13
no way to your future now
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nema puta do tvoje budućnosti sad
09:14
except the way your shadow could take,
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osim puta kojim je tvoja senka mogla ići,
09:17
walking before you across water, going where shadows go,
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hodajući ispred tebe preko vode, idući kuda senke idu,
09:20
no way to make sense of a world that wouldn't let you pass
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nema tog puta koji bi dao smisao svetu, a ne bi te pustio da prođeš,
09:25
except to call an end to the way you had come,
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osim da proglasiš okončanim put kojim si došla,
09:30
to take out each letter you had brought
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da izvadiš svako pismo koje si donela
09:35
and light their illumined corners;
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i zapališ njihove osvetljene uglove;
i da ih čitaš dok odlaze sa kasnom zapadnom svetlošću;
09:38
and to read them as they drifted on the late western light;
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09:43
to empty your bags
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da isprazniš torbe
09:44
to empty your bags;
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da isprazniš torbe;
09:45
to sort this and to leave that
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da središ ovo, a ostaviš ono
09:48
to sort this and to leave that;
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da središ ovo, a ostaviš ono;
da obećaš nešto što je trebalo da obećaš od samog početka
09:52
to promise what you needed to promise all along
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09:56
to promise what you needed to promise all along,
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da obećaš nešto što je trebalo da obećaš od samog početka,
09:59
and to abandon the shoes that brought you here
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i da napustiš cipele koje su te dovele tu
10:03
right at the water's edge,
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baš tu na ivicu vode,
10:05
not because you had given up
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ne zato što si odustala
10:07
not because you had given up
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ne zato što si odustala,
već zato što sad,
10:09
but because now,
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10:10
you would find a different way to tread,
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otkrićeš drugi put da njime hodaš,
i zato što, sve u svemu,
10:13
and because, through it all,
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10:14
part of you would still walk on,
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deo tebe će i dalje da hoda,
10:17
no matter how,
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nije važno kako,
10:18
over the waves."
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preko talasa."
10:22
"Finisterre."
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"Finistere."
10:23
For Marlene McCormack --
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Za Marlin Mekormak -
10:25
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
koja za sobom već ima tri izvedene predstave
10:35
who has already had her third play performed
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10:37
in off-off-off-off-Broadway --
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daleko-daleko-daleko-daleko od Brodveja -
u Dablinu.
10:41
in Dublin.
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10:42
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
10:43
But she's on her way.
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Ali približava se.
10:45
This is the last piece.
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Ovo je poslednja pesma.
10:47
This is about the supposed arrival at the sum of all of our endeavors.
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Govori o navodnom dolasku do zbira svih naših napora.
10:53
In Santiago itself --
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Baš u Santijago -
10:55
it could be Santiago,
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to bi mogao da bude Santijago,
10:56
it could be Mecca,
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mogla bi da bude Meka,
10:57
it could be Varanasi,
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mogao bi da bude Varanasi,
10:59
it could be Kyoto,
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mogao bi da bude Kjoto,
11:00
it could be that threshold you've set for yourself,
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mogao bi da bude prag koji ste sebi zacrtali,
11:05
the disturbing approach to the consummation of all your goals.
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uznemirujuće primicanje konzumaciji svih vaših ciljeva.
A jedna od poteškoća kod ulaska u vaš život,
11:13
And one of the difficulties about walking into your life,
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11:17
about coming into this body,
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kod dolaska u ovo telo,
u ovaj svet u potpunosti,
11:19
into this world fully,
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je ta što počinjete da shvatate
11:22
is you start to realize
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da ste proizveli tri trajne iluzije,
11:24
that you have manufactured three abiding illusions
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11:30
that the rest of humanity has shared with you since the beginning of time.
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koje ostatak čovečanstva deli sa vama od postanka vremena.
11:34
And the first illusion is that you can somehow construct a life
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A prva iluzija je ta da nekako možete da izgradite život
11:39
in which you are not vulnerable.
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u kom niste ranjivi.
11:42
You can somehow be immune to all of the difficulties
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Da nekako možete da budete imuni na sve poteškoće
11:47
and ill health and losses
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i loše zdravlje i gubitke
11:51
that humanity has been subject to since the beginning of time.
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kojima je čovečanstvo podložno još od postanka vremena.
Ako bacimo pogled na svet prirode,
11:56
If we look out at the natural world,
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11:57
there's no part of that world
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nijedan deo tog sveta
11:59
that doesn't go through cycles of, first, incipience,
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nije izuzet prolaska kroz cikluse: prvo, započinjanje,
12:03
or hiddenness,
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to jest skrivenost,
12:04
but then growth, fullness,
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pa potom rast, punoća,
12:07
but then a beautiful, to begin with, disappearance,
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ali potom, prelepo, u samoj osnovi, nestajanje,
12:11
and then a very austere, full disappearance.
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a potom krajnje opor, potpuni nestanak.
12:14
We look at that, we say, "That's beautiful,
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Posmatramo to, kažemo: "Prelepo je,
12:16
but can I just have the first half of the equation, please?
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ali mogu li ja da dobijem prvu polovinu jednačine, molim?
12:20
And when the disappearance is happening,
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A kad nestajanje bude u toku,
12:22
I'll close my eyes and wait for the new cycle to come around."
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zatvoriću oči i čekati da započne novi ciklus."
12:25
Which means most human beings are at war with reality
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To znači da je većina ljudskih bića u ratu sa stvarnošću
12:29
50 percent of the time.
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polovinu vremena.
12:32
The mature identity
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Zreo identitet
12:37
is able to live in the full cycle.
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je u stanju da živi u punom ciklusu.
12:40
The second illusion is,
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Druga iluzija je:
12:42
I can construct a life in which I will not have my heart broken.
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mogu da izgradim život u kom mi neće slomiti srce.
Romansa je prvo mesto na kom to započinjemo.
12:47
Romance is the first place we start to do it.
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12:49
When you're at the beginning of a new romance or a new marriage,
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Kad ste na početku nove romanse ili novog braka,
12:53
you say, "I have found the person who will not break my heart."
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kažete: "Pronašao sam osobu koja mi neće slomiti srce."
12:57
I'm sorry;
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Žao mi je;
izabrali ste je nesvesno baš zbog te ključne sposobnosti.
12:59
you have chosen them out unconsciously for that exact core competency.
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13:04
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
13:05
They will break your heart.
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Slomiće vam srce.
13:07
Why?
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Zašto?
13:08
Because you care about them.
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Zato što marite za nju.
Uzmite roditeljstvo, da?
13:10
You look at parenting, yeah?
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13:12
Parenting: "I will be the perfect mother and father."
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Roditeljstvo: "Biću savršena majka i savršen otac."
Vaša deca će da vam slome srce.
13:16
Your children will break your heart.
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13:18
And they don't even have to do anything spectacular or dramatic.
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A čak ne moraju da urade nešto spektakularno ili dramatčno.
Međutim, obično urade nešto spektakularno ili dramatično -
13:23
But usually, they do do something spectacular or dramatic --
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(Smeh)
13:27
(Laughter)
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da vam slome srce.
13:28
to break your heart.
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A potom, godinama žive sa vama poput špijuna i sabotera,
13:30
And then they live with you as spies and saboteurs for years,
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13:33
watching your every psychological move,
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posmatrajući vaš svaki psihološki pokret
13:36
and spotting your every weakness.
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i zapažajući svaku vašu slabost.
I jednog dana,
13:39
And one day,
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13:40
when they're about 14 years old,
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kad im je otprilike 14 godina,
13:42
with your back turned to them,
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dok ste im okrenuti leđima,
13:43
in the kitchen,
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u kuhinji,
13:45
while you're making something for them --
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dok spremate nešto za njih -
13:47
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
13:48
the psychological stiletto goes in.
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zariju vam psihološki bodež.
13:50
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
13:53
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
13:58
And you say, "How did you know exactly where to place it?"
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A vi kažete: "Kako ste znali tačno gde da ga smestite?"
14:02
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
14:03
And they say,
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A oni kažu:
14:04
"I've been watching you for --
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"Posmatrali smo vas -
14:06
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
14:07
a good few years."
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dobrih nekoliko godina."
14:11
And then we hope that our armored, professional personalities
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A potom se nadamo da će nas naši oklopi profesionalne ličnosti
zaštititi od slomljenog srca na poslu.
14:17
will prevent us from having our heart broken in work.
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14:20
But if you're sincere about your work,
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Međutim, ako ste iskreni u vašem poslu,
14:23
it should break your heart.
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srce i treba da vam se slomi.
Trebalo bi da stižete do pragova
14:26
You should get to thresholds
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14:27
where you do not know how to proceed.
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gde ne znate kako dalje.
Ne znate kako da stignete odavde do tamo.
14:32
You do not know how to get from here to there.
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14:36
What does that do?
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Šta je svrha toga?
14:37
It puts you into a proper relationship with reality.
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To vas stavlja u pravilan odnos sa stvarnošću.
14:41
Why?
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Zašto?
14:42
Because you have to ask for help.
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Zato što morate da tražite pomoć.
14:50
Heartbreak.
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Slomljeno srce.
14:52
We don't have a choice about heartbreak,
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Nemamo izbora kod slomljenog srca,
14:54
we only have a choice of having our hearts broken
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jedino imamo izbor kod toga da nam srca lome
14:58
over people and things and projects that we deeply care about.
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ljudi i stvari i projekti za koje istinski marimo.
15:05
And the last illusion is,
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A poslednja iluzija glasi:
15:07
I can somehow plan enough and arrange things
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nekako mogu dovoljno da isplaniram i podesim stvari,
15:11
that I will be able to see the path to the end
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te ću biti u stanju da vidim stazu do samog kraja,
15:15
right from where I'm standing,
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baš sa mesta na kom sam,
15:17
right to the horizon.
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skroz do horizonta.
15:20
But when you think about it,
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Međutim, ako razmislite o tome,
jedina sredina u kojoj bi to bilo moguće
15:22
the only environment in which that would be true
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15:25
would be a flat desert,
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bi bila ravna pustinja,
15:28
empty of any other life.
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ispražnjena od drugih oblika života.
No, čak i u ravnoj pustinji,
15:33
But even in a flat desert,
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15:34
the curvature of the earth would take the path away from you.
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zakrivljenost zemlje bi vam izmakla stazu ispod nogu.
15:38
So, no;
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Dakle, ne;
15:40
you see the path,
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vidite stazu,
15:41
and then you don't
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a potom je ne vidite,
15:43
and then you see it again.
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a potom je vidite opet.
15:45
So this is "Santiago,"
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Dakle, ovo je "Santijago",
15:48
the supposed arrival,
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navodni dolazak,
15:51
which is a kind of return to the beginning all at the same time.
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koji je na neki način istovremeno povratak na početak.
15:55
We have this experience of the journey,
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Imamo to iskustvo putovanja,
koje je u svim našim velikim spiritualnim tradicijama,
15:58
which is in all of our great spiritual traditions,
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16:00
of pilgrimage.
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hodočašće.
Ali, samim tim što stojite potpuno na tlu vašeg života,
16:02
But just by actually standing in the ground of your life fully,
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16:06
not trying to abstract yourself into a strategic future
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ne pokušavajući da se apstrahujete u stratešku budućnost,
16:10
that's actually just an escape from present heartbreak;
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to je zapravo tek beg od slomljenog srca u sadašnjosti;
sposobnost stajanja na tlu vašeg postojanja
16:14
the ability to stand in the ground of your life
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16:16
and to look at the horizon that is pulling you --
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i posmatranja horizonta koji vas vuče -
16:20
in that moment,
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u tom trenutku,
16:21
you are the whole journey.
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vi ste putovanje u celosti.
16:23
You are the whole conversation.
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Vi ste razgovor u celosti.
16:27
"Santiago."
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"Santijago"
16:28
"The road seen, then not seen
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"Put koji se vidi, pa ne vidi
16:31
the road seen, then not seen
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put koji se vidi, pa ne vidi
padina koja skriva, pa otkriva put kojim bi trebalo da pođeš
16:36
the hillside hiding then revealing the way you should take
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16:40
the road seen, then not seen
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put koji se vidi, pa ne vidi
16:43
the hillside hiding then revealing the way you should take,
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padina koja skriva, pa otkriva put kojim bi trebalo da pođeš,
16:48
the road dropping away from you
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put koji ti izmiče
16:52
as if leaving you to walk on thin air,
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kao da te ostavlja da hodaš po praznom vazduhu,
potom te hvata,
16:57
then catching you,
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16:58
catching you,
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hvata te,
16:59
holding you up, when you thought you would fall,
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drži te uspravljenog, onda kad pomisliš da ćeš pasti,
17:02
catching you,
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hvata te,
17:03
holding you up, when you thought you would fall,
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drži te uspravljenog, onda kad pomisliš da ćeš pasti,
17:05
and the way forward
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a put napred
17:07
the way forward always in the end
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a put napred uvek na kraju
je put kojim si došao,
17:11
the way that you came,
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17:12
the way forward always in the end
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put napred uvek na kraju
17:14
the way that you came,
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je put kojim si došao,
17:15
the way that you followed, the way that carried you into your future,
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put koji si pratio, put koji te je nosio u tvoju budućnost,
koji te je doveo do ovog mesta,
17:19
that brought you to this place,
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17:20
that brought you to this place,
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koji te je doveo do ovog mesta,
17:23
no matter that it sometimes had to take your promise from you,
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bez obzira na to što je ponekad morao da ti istrgne obećanje,
17:28
no matter that it always had to break your heart along the way:
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bez obzira na to što ti je usput stalno morao da slama srce:
17:34
the sense
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osećaj
17:35
the sense of having walked from deep inside yourself
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osećaj da si hodao iz sopstvenih dubina
17:40
out into the revelation,
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napolje do otkrovenja,
17:43
to have risked yourself
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da si ugrozio sebe
17:45
for something that seemed to stand both inside you and far beyond you,
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zbog nečega što se činilo da stoji i u tebi i daleko mimo tebe,
17:51
and that called you back in the end
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i što te je na kraju pozvalo nazad
17:53
to the only road you could follow,
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na jedini put koji možeš da pratiš,
17:56
walking as you did, in your rags of love
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hodajući baš tako, u dronjcima ljubavi
18:00
walking as you did, in your rags of love
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hodajući baš tako, u dronjcima ljubavi
18:03
and speaking in the voice that by night became a prayer for safe arrival,
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i govoreći glasom koji je noću postajao molitva za bezbedan povratak,
18:10
so that one day
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kako bi jednog dana
18:12
one day you realized
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jednog dana shvatio
18:14
that what you wanted had actually already happened
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da ono što si želeo zapravo se već dogodilo
jednog dana si shvatio
18:18
one day you realized
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da ono što si želeo zapravo se već dogodilo
18:20
that what you wanted had actually already happened
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18:22
and long ago
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i to davnih dana
18:23
and in the dwelling place in which you lived before you began,
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počivalo je na mestu na kom si živeo pre nego što si počeo,
18:27
and that
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i da
18:28
and that every step along the way,
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i da si svakim korakom na tom putu,
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every step along the way,
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svakim korakom na tom putu,
nosio srce i um i obećanje
18:33
you had carried the heart and the mind and the promise
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18:36
that first set you off and then drew you on,
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koji su te prvo potakli, a potom te navodili,
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and that
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i da
i da si bio veličanstveniji
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and that you were more marvelous
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18:45
in your simple wish to find a way
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u svojoj prostoj želji da nađeš put
18:48
you were more marvelous in your simple wish to find a way
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bio si veličanstveniji u svojoj prostoj želji da nađeš put
18:52
than the gilded roofs of any destination you could reach
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od pozlaćenih krovova bilo kojeg odredišta koje si mogao doseći
18:56
you were more marvelous in that simple wish to find a way
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bio si veličanstveniji u svojoj prostoj želji da nađeš put
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than the gilded roofs of any destination you could reach:
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od pozlaćenih krovova bilo kog odredišta koje si mogao doseći:
kao da si, sve vreme,
19:03
as if, all along,
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you had thought the end point might be a city with golden domes,
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mislio kako je konačno odredište možda grad sa zlatnim kupolama
19:07
and cheering crowds,
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i gomilom koja kliče,
19:08
and turning the corner
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a skrećući iza ugla
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at what you thought was the end of the road,
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koji si smatrao krajem puta,
19:15
you found just a simple reflection,
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otkrio si samo prost odraz
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and a clear revelation beneath the face looking back
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i jasno otkrovenje ispod lica koje se osvrtalo
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and beneath it another invitation,
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a ispod njega još jednu pozivinicu,
19:27
all in one glimpse
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sve u jednom mahu
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all in one glimpse:
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sve u jednom mahu:
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like a person
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nalik osobi
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like a person or a place you had sought forever
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nalik osobi ili mestu za kojima si oduvek tragao
nalik osobi ili mestu za kojima si oduvek tragao,
19:37
like a person or a place you had sought forever,
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19:40
like a bold field of freedom that beckoned you beyond;
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nalik odvažnom polju slobode koje te je zvalo preko;
nalik drugom životu
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like another life
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19:46
like another life,
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nalik drugom životu
19:48
and the road
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i putu
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the road still stretching on."
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putu koji se i dalje pruža napred."
19:54
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
19:55
Thank you.
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Hvala vam.
19:56
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
20:01
Thank you.
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Hvala vam.
20:02
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
20:07
Thank you very much. Thank you.
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Mnogo vam hvala. Hvala vam.
Veoma ste ljubazni. Hvala vam.
20:10
You're very kind. Thank you.
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20:11
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
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