A lyrical bridge between past, present and future | David Whyte

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Prevoditelj: Marija Kostović Recezent: Ivan Stamenković
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The youthful perspective on the future,
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Mlad pogled na budućnost,
00:17
the present perspective on the future
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sadašnji pogled na budućnost
00:19
and the future, mature perspective on the future --
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i budući, zreo pogled na budućnost --
00:24
I'd like to try and bring all those three tenses together
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Večeras ću pokušati povezati ta tri glagolska vremena
00:28
in one identity tonight.
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u jedan identitet.
00:31
And you could say that the poet, in many ways,
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Možemo reći da pjesnik na mnoge načine
00:34
looks at what I call "the conversational nature of reality."
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razmatra "razgovornu prirodu stvarnosti".
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And you ask yourself:
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Pitate se:
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What is the conversational nature of reality?
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Što je razgovorna priroda stvarnosti?
00:43
The conversational nature of reality is the fact
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Razgovorna je priroda stvarnosti
00:46
that whatever you desire of the world --
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činjenica da što god želite od svijeta --
00:50
whatever you desire of your partner in a marriage or a love relationship,
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što god želite od bračnog partnera ili ljubavne veze,
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whatever you desire of your children,
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što god želite od svoje djece,
00:56
whatever you desire of the people who work for you or with you,
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što god želite od ljudi koji rade za vas ili s vama,
00:59
or your world --
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ili od vašeg svijeta...
01:01
will not happen exactly as you would like it to happen.
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ne ostvaruje se onako kako biste vi to voljeli.
01:06
But equally,
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Jednako tako,
01:08
whatever the world desires of us --
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što god svijet želi od nas --
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whatever our partner, our child, our colleague,
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što god naš partner, naše dijete, naš kolega,
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our industry,
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naša industrija,
01:15
our future demands of us,
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naša budućnost zahtijeva od nas,
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will also not happen.
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jednako se tako neće ostvariti.
01:20
And what actually happens
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Ono što se ostvaruje
01:21
is this frontier between what you think is you
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jest granica između onoga što mislite da vi jeste
01:26
and what you think is not you.
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i što mislite da niste.
01:28
And this frontier of actual meeting
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A ta granica stvarnog susreta
01:31
between what we call a self and what we call the world
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između onoga što zovemo bićem i onoga što zovemo svijetom
01:34
is the only place, actually, where things are real.
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zapravo je jedino mjesto na kojem se događa stvarnost.
01:37
But it's quite astonishing,
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No zapanjujuće je
01:39
how little time we spend at this conversational frontier,
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kako malo vremena trošimo na toj razgovornoj granici,
01:43
and not abstracted away from it in one strategy or another.
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kada nismo odvojeni od nje drugim strategijama.
01:49
I was coming through immigration,
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Prošle godine prolazio sam kroz imigracijsku kontrolu,
01:54
which is quite a dramatic border at the moment,
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što je danas jedna vrlo dramatična granica,
01:57
into the US last year,
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da bih ušao u SAD,
02:00
and, you know, you get off an international flight
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i prošli ste međunarodni let
02:03
across the Atlantic,
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preko Atlantskog oceana,
02:04
and you're not in the best place;
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i ne osjećate se baš najbolje,
02:06
you're not at your most spiritually mature.
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niste baš duhovno zreli.
02:08
You're quite impatient with the rest of humanity, in fact.
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Zapravo, nemate baš strpljenja za druge.
02:12
So when you get up to immigration with your shirt collar out
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I kada dođete do imigracijske sa zgužvanim ovratnikom
02:16
and a day's growth of beard,
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i jednodnevnom bradom,
02:18
and you have very little patience,
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nemate baš strpljenja,
02:21
and the immigration officer looked at my passport
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a imigracijski službenik pogleda putovnicu
02:24
and said, "What do you do, Mr. Whyte?"
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i upita: "Čime se bavite, g. Whyte?"
02:26
I said, "I work with the conversational nature of reality."
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Rekao sam "Bavim se razgovornom prirodom stvarnosti."
02:31
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
02:36
And he leaned forward over his podium
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Nagnuo se preko pulta
02:39
and he said, "I needed you last night."
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i rekao "Dobro biste mi došli sinoć".
02:42
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
02:44
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
02:48
And I said, "I'm sorry,
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Odgovorio sam "Žao mi je,
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my powers as a poet and philosopher only go so far.
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kao pjesnik i filozof, imam ograničene mogućnosti.
02:52
I'm not sure I can --"
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Nisam siguran da mogu --"
02:53
But before we knew it,
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I prije nego što smo se snašli,
02:55
we were into a conversation about his marriage.
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razgovarali smo o njegovom braku.
02:58
Here he was in his uniform,
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Stajao je tamo u svojoj odori,
03:00
and the interesting thing was,
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i što je najzanimljivije,
03:02
he was looking up and down the row of officers
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stalno je pogledavao u ostale službenike
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to make sure his supervisor didn't see
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kako bi se uvjerio da njegov nadređeni
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that we was having a real conversation.
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ne vidi da vodi stvaran razgovor.
03:11
But all of us live at this conversational frontier
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No svi mi živimo na toj razgovornoj granici
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with the future.
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prema budućnosti.
03:16
I'd like to put you in the shoes of my Irish niece,
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Želim vam predstaviti pogled svoje irske nećakinje
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Marlene McCormack,
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Marlene McCormack,
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standing on a cliff edge on the western coast of Spain,
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koja stoji na rubu litice na zapadnoj obali Španjolske
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overlooking the broad Atlantic.
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i gleda u veliki Atlantski ocean.
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Twenty-three years old, she's just walked 500 miles
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Ima dvadeset i tri godine i upravo je propješačila 800 km
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from Saint Jean Pied de Port on the French side of the Pyrenees,
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od Saint Jean Pied de Porta na francuskoj strani Pireneja,
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all the way across Northern Spain,
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preko cijele sjeverne Španjolske,
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on this very famous, old and contemporary pilgrimage
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na poznatom, starom i suvremenom,
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called the Camino de Santiago de Compostela --
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hodočašću Camino de Santiago de Compostela --
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the Path to Santiago of Compostela.
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Put do Santiaga de Compostele.
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And when you get to Santiago, actually,
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A kada dođete do Santiaga,
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it can be something of an anticlimax,
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možete doživjeti antiklimaks,
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because there are 100,000 people living there
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jer tamo živi 100.000 ljudi
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who are not necessarily applauding you as you're coming into town.
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koji vam ne salutiraju kada dođete u grad.
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(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
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And 10,000 of them are trying to sell you a memento of your journey.
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A njih 10.000 pokušava vam prodati uspomenu na putovanje.
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But you do have the possibility of going on for three more days
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Ali imate mogućnost nastaviti još tri dana
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to this place where Marlene stood, called, in Spanish, Finisterre,
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do tog mjesta gdje je Marlene stajala, na španjolskom se zove Finisterre,
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in English, Finisterre,
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i na engleskom Finisterre,
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from the Latin, meaning "the ends of the earth,"
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iz latinskog, što znači "rubovi zemlje",
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the place where ground turns to ocean;
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mjesto gdje se zemlja pretvara u ocean;
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the place where your present turns into the future.
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mjesto gdje se sadašnjost pretvara u budućnost.
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And Marlene had walked this way --
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I Marlene je propješačila do tamo --
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she just graduated as a 23-year-old from the University of Sligo
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23-godišnjakinja koja je na Sveučilištu u Sligu
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with a degree in Irish drama.
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diplomirala irsku dramu,
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And she said to me, "I don't think the major corporations of the world
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rekla mi je "Ne vjerujem da će me velike svjetske korporacije
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will be knocking on my door."
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tražiti."
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I said, "Listen, I've worked in corporations all over the world
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Rekao sam "Slušaj, radio sam za korporacije diljem svijeta
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for decades;
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desetljećima;
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a degree in drama is what would most prepare you for the adult --
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studij drame najbolje te priprema za odrasli --
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(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
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corporate world."
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korporativni svijet."
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(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
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But she said, "I'm not interested in that, anyway.
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Ali rekla je: "To me ionako ne zanima.
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I don't want to teach drama, I want to become a dramatist.
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Ne želim predavati dramu, želim postati dramaturginja.
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I want to write plays.
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Želim pisati drame.
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So I walked the Camino in order to give myself some courage,
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Prošla sam Camino da bih se ohrabrila,
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in order to walk into my future."
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da bih išla prema svojoj budućnosti."
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And I said, "What was the most powerful moment you had on the whole Camino,
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Pitao sam: "Koji ti je bio najmoćniji trenutak u Caminu,
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the very most powerful moment?"
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onaj baš najsnažniji trenutak?"
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She said, "I had many powerful moments,
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Rekla je: "Doživjela sam mnoge snažne trenutke,
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but you know, the most powerful moment was post-Camino,
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ali onaj najmoćniji je kada prođeš Camino,
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was the three days you go on from Santiago and come to this cliff edge.
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ona tri dana kada prođeš Santiago i dođeš do ruba litice.
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And you go through three rituals.
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Prolaziš kroz tri rituala.
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The first ritual is to eat a tapas plate of scallops" --
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Prvi je pojesti platu kapica" --
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or if you're vegetarian,
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ili ako ste vegetarijanac,
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to contemplate the scallop shell.
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diviti se školjkama kapica.
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(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
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Because the scallop shell has been the icon and badge of your walk,
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Ipak su školjke kapica postale simbol hodočašća
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and every arrow that you have seen along that way
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i sve strelice duž puta
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has been pointing underneath a scallop shell.
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prikazane su ispod školjki kapica.
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So really, this first ritual is saying:
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Stoga se prvi ritual sastoji od pitanja:
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How did you get to this place?
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Kako sam došao ovamo?
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How did you follow the path to get here?
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Koji sam put slijedio da bih došao?
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How do you hold the conversation of life when you feel unbesieged,
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Kako razmišljaš o životu kada se osjećaš neopsjednut,
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when you're unbullied,
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nenapadnut,
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when you're left to yourself?
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kada si prepušten sebi?
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How do you hold the conversation of life that brings you to this place?
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Kako razmišljaš o životu koji te doveo ovamo?
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And the second ritual is that you burn something that you've brought.
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A drugi je ritual spaliti nešto što si donio sa sobom.
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I said, "What did you burn, Marlene?"
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Pitao sam: "Što si spalila, Marlene?"
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She said, "I burned a letter and two postcards."
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Rekla je: "Spalila sam pismo i dvije razglednice."
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I said, "Astonishing.
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Rekao sam: "Zapanjujuće.
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Twenty-three years old and you have paper.
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Imaš dvadeset i tri godine i uza sebe papir.
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I can't believe it."
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Ne mogu vjerovati."
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(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
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I'm sure there's a Camino app
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Siguran sam da postoji aplikacija za Camino
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where you can just delete a traumatic text, you know?
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u kojoj možeš jednostavno izbrisati traumatičnu poruku.
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(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
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It will engage the flashlight,
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Koja pali svjetiljku,
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imbue it with color
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ispunjava je bojom
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and disappear in a firework of flames.
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i nestaje u vatrometu.
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But you either bring a letter or you write one there,
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Ali možeš donijeti pismo ili ga napisati tamo
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and you burn it.
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pa spaliti.
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And of course we know intuitively what is on those letters and postcards.
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A intuitivno naravno znamo što piše u tim pismima i na tim razglednicama.
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It's a form of affection and love that is now no longer extant, yeah?
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To je oblik privrženosti i ljubavi koja više ne postoji, zar ne?
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And then the third ritual:
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A zatim treći ritual:
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between all these fires are large piles of clothes.
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između tih ognjišta velike su hrpe odjeće.
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And you leave an item of clothing
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Ostavite odjevni predmet
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that has helped you to get to this place.
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koji vam je pomogao stići.
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And I said to Marlene, "What did you leave at the cliff edge?"
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Pitao sam Marlene: "Što si ostavila na rubu litice?"
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She said, "I left my boots --
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Rekla je: "Ostavila sam čizme --
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the very things that I walked in, actually.
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upravo one u kojima sam došla.
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They were beautiful boots, I loved those boots,
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To su bile prekrasne čizme, obožavala sam ih,
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but they were finished after seven weeks of walking.
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ali bile su gotove nakon sedam tjedana hoda.
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So I walked away in my trainers,
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Stoga sam otišla u tenisicama,
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but I left my boots there."
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a čizme sam ostavila tamo."
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She said, "It was really incredible.
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Rekla je: "Bilo je nevjerojatno.
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The most powerful moment was, the sun was going down,
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Najsnažniji trenutak bio je kada je sunce zalazilo,
07:33
but the full moon was coming up behind me.
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a pun mjesec izlazio je iza mene.
07:37
And the full moon was illuminated by the dying sun in such a powerful way
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Pun mjesec bio je osvijetljen zalazećim suncem na tako moćan način
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that even after the sun had dropped below the horizon,
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da je čak i nakon što je zašlo iza obzora,
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the moon could still see that sun.
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mjesec i dalje vidio to sunce.
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And I had a moon shadow,
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Imala sam sjenu od mjeseca,
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and I was looking at my moon shadow walking across the Atlantic,
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i gledala sam svoju mjesečevu sjenu kako ide preko Atlantika,
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across this ocean.
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preko tog oceana.
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And I thought,
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I pomislila sam:
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'Oh! That's my new self going into the future.'
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"O pa to sam nova ja koja odlazim u budućnost."
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But suddenly I realized the sun was falling further.
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Odjedanput sam shvatila da sunce i dalje zalazi.
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The moon was losing its reflection,
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Mjesec je gubio odsjaj,
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and my shadow was disappearing.
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a moja je sjena nestajala.
08:15
The most powerful moment I had on the whole Camino
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Najsnažniji trenutak koji sam doživjela u Caminu
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was when I realized I myself had to walk across that unknown sea
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bio je kada sam shvatila da moram prijeći to nepoznato more
08:24
into my future."
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prema svojoj budućnosti."
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Well, I was so taken by this story,
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Toliko me obuzela ta priča
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I wrote this piece for her.
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da sam napisao pjesmu za nju.
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We were driving at the time;
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Vozili smo se;
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we got home, I sat on the couch,
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došli smo kući, sjeo sam na kauč
08:34
I wrote until two in the morning --
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i pisao do dva ujutro --
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everyone had gone to bed --
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svi su otišli na spavanje --
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and I gave it to Marlene at breakfast time.
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i dao sam je Marlene za doručkom.
08:40
It's called, "Finisterre," for Marlene McCormack.
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Zove se "Finisterre" za Marlene McCormack.
08:46
"The road in the end
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"Cesta na kraju
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the road in the end taking the path the sun had taken
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cesta na kraju ide putem sunca
08:52
the road in the end taking the path the sun had taken
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cesta na kraju ide putem hoda
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into the western sea
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u zapadno more
08:58
the road in the end taking the path the sun had taken
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cesta na kraju ide putem sunca
09:01
into the western sea
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u zapadno more
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and the moon
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a mjesec
09:04
the moon rising behind you
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mjesec koji se diže iza tebe
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as you stood where ground turned to ocean:
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dok stojiš na mjestu gdje zemlja postaje ocean:
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no way to your future now
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sada nema puta prema budućnosti
09:13
no way to your future now
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sada nema puta prema budućnosti
09:14
except the way your shadow could take,
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osim onoga kojim bi išla tvoja sjena,
09:17
walking before you across water, going where shadows go,
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koja ide ispred tebe preko vode, ide kamo sjene idu,
09:20
no way to make sense of a world that wouldn't let you pass
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ne može se objasniti svijet koji te ne bi pustio da prođeš
09:25
except to call an end to the way you had come,
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osim da proglasiš kraj puta kojim dolaziš,
09:30
to take out each letter you had brought
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izvadiš svako pismo koje donosiš
09:35
and light their illumined corners;
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i zapališ njegove osvijetljene rubove;
09:38
and to read them as they drifted on the late western light;
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i čitaš dok ga nosi kasno zapadno svjetlo;
09:43
to empty your bags
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isprazniš torbe
09:44
to empty your bags;
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isprazniš torbe
09:45
to sort this and to leave that
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nešto razvrstaš, a nešto ostaviš
09:48
to sort this and to leave that;
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nešto razvrstaš, a nešto ostaviš;
09:52
to promise what you needed to promise all along
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obećaš ono što si davno trebao
09:56
to promise what you needed to promise all along,
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obećaš ono što si davno trebao,
09:59
and to abandon the shoes that brought you here
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i napustiš cipele kojima si došao
10:03
right at the water's edge,
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tamo na obali,
10:05
not because you had given up
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ne zato što odustaješ
10:07
not because you had given up
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ne zato što odustaješ
10:09
but because now,
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već zato što sada
10:10
you would find a different way to tread,
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znaš drugi put kojim bi išao,
10:13
and because, through it all,
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i zato što nakon svega,
10:14
part of you would still walk on,
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dio tebe želi ići dalje,
10:17
no matter how,
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na bilo koji način,
10:18
over the waves."
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preko valova."
10:22
"Finisterre."
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"Finisterre."
10:23
For Marlene McCormack --
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Za Marlene McCormack --
10:25
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
10:35
who has already had her third play performed
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čija je treća predstava izvedena
10:37
in off-off-off-off-Broadway --
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u alternativnom alternativnom kazalištu --
10:41
in Dublin.
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u Dublinu.
10:42
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
10:43
But she's on her way.
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Ali slijedi svoj put.
10:45
This is the last piece.
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Ovo je zadnje djelo.
10:47
This is about the supposed arrival at the sum of all of our endeavors.
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Ovo je pretpostavljeno ostvarenje svih naših nastojanja.
10:53
In Santiago itself --
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Dolazak u sam Santiago --
10:55
it could be Santiago,
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to može biti Santiago,
10:56
it could be Mecca,
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može biti Meka,
10:57
it could be Varanasi,
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može biti Benares,
10:59
it could be Kyoto,
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može biti Kyoto,
11:00
it could be that threshold you've set for yourself,
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može biti granica koju ste si postavili,
11:05
the disturbing approach to the consummation of all your goals.
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uznemirujuć pristup ispunjenju svih ciljeva.
11:13
And one of the difficulties about walking into your life,
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A jedna od teškoća kod ulaska u život,
11:17
about coming into this body,
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ulaska u tijelo,
11:19
into this world fully,
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potpuno u svijet,
11:22
is you start to realize
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jest kada shvatite
11:24
that you have manufactured three abiding illusions
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da ste proizveli tri trajne iluzije
11:30
that the rest of humanity has shared with you since the beginning of time.
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koje čovječanstvo dijeli otpočetka svijeta.
11:34
And the first illusion is that you can somehow construct a life
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Prva je iluzija da nekako stvarate život
11:39
in which you are not vulnerable.
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u kojem niste ranjivi.
11:42
You can somehow be immune to all of the difficulties
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Na neki način možete biti imuni na sve poteškoće
11:47
and ill health and losses
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i bolesti i gubitke
11:51
that humanity has been subject to since the beginning of time.
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kojima je čovječanstvo podložno otpočetka svijeta.
11:56
If we look out at the natural world,
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Ako pogledamo prirodni svijet,
11:57
there's no part of that world
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nema niti jednog njegovog dijela
11:59
that doesn't go through cycles of, first, incipience,
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koji ne ide kroz cikluse: prvo je početak
12:03
or hiddenness,
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ili skrivenost,
12:04
but then growth, fullness,
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zatim rast, potpunost,
12:07
but then a beautiful, to begin with, disappearance,
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za početak, prekrasno nestajanje,
12:11
and then a very austere, full disappearance.
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a zatim vrlo surovo, potpuno nestajanje.
12:14
We look at that, we say, "That's beautiful,
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Gledamo u to i kažemo: "To je prekrasno,
12:16
but can I just have the first half of the equation, please?
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ali mogu li dobiti samo prvi dio jednadžbe?
12:20
And when the disappearance is happening,
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A kada dođe do nestajanja,
12:22
I'll close my eyes and wait for the new cycle to come around."
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zatvorit ću oči i čekati sljedeći ciklus."
12:25
Which means most human beings are at war with reality
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Što znači da većina ljudi ratuje sa stvarnošću
12:29
50 percent of the time.
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50 posto svog vremena.
12:32
The mature identity
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Zreli identitet
12:37
is able to live in the full cycle.
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može živjeti u punom krugu.
12:40
The second illusion is,
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Druga je iluzija
12:42
I can construct a life in which I will not have my heart broken.
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da mogu izgraditi život u kojem moje srce neće biti slomljeno.
12:47
Romance is the first place we start to do it.
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Zaljubljenost je prva točka.
12:49
When you're at the beginning of a new romance or a new marriage,
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Kada ste na početku nove veze ili novog braka,
12:53
you say, "I have found the person who will not break my heart."
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govorite: "Pronašao sam osobu koja mi neće slomiti srce."
12:57
I'm sorry;
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Žao mi je:
12:59
you have chosen them out unconsciously for that exact core competency.
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odabrali ste ju nesvjesno upravo zbog te sposobnosti.
13:04
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
13:05
They will break your heart.
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Slomit će vam srce.
13:07
Why?
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Zašto?
13:08
Because you care about them.
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Zato što vam je stalo do nje.
13:10
You look at parenting, yeah?
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Pogledajmo roditeljstvo.
13:12
Parenting: "I will be the perfect mother and father."
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Roditeljstvo: "Bit ću savršena majka, savršen otac."
13:16
Your children will break your heart.
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Djeca će vam slomiti srce.
13:18
And they don't even have to do anything spectacular or dramatic.
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A ne moraju nužno učiniti ništa spektakularno ni dramatično.
13:23
But usually, they do do something spectacular or dramatic --
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Obično učine nešto spektakularno ili dramatično...
13:27
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
13:28
to break your heart.
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i slome vam srce.
13:30
And then they live with you as spies and saboteurs for years,
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I žive s vama kao špijuni ili saboteri godinama,
13:33
watching your every psychological move,
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prate svaki vaš psihološki korak,
13:36
and spotting your every weakness.
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i uočavaju svaku vašu slabost.
13:39
And one day,
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I jednog dana,
13:40
when they're about 14 years old,
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kada napune 14 godina,
13:42
with your back turned to them,
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dok ste im okrenuti leđima
13:43
in the kitchen,
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u kuhinji,
13:45
while you're making something for them --
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dok im nešto pripremate --
13:47
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
13:48
the psychological stiletto goes in.
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psihološki nož dolazi na scenu.
13:50
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
13:53
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
13:58
And you say, "How did you know exactly where to place it?"
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Pitate: "Kako si znao kamo ubosti?"
14:02
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
14:03
And they say,
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A on kaže:
14:04
"I've been watching you for --
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"Pratim te već --
14:06
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
14:07
a good few years."
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nekoliko godina."
14:11
And then we hope that our armored, professional personalities
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Zatim se nadamo da smo stvorili profesionalni oklop
14:17
will prevent us from having our heart broken in work.
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koji će nas zaštititi od slomljenog srca na poslu.
14:20
But if you're sincere about your work,
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Ali ako ste iskreni u svom poslu,
14:23
it should break your heart.
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trebao bi vam slomiti srce.
14:26
You should get to thresholds
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Trebate doći do granica
14:27
where you do not know how to proceed.
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gdje ne znate kako dalje.
14:32
You do not know how to get from here to there.
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Ne znate kako doći od točke A do točke B.
14:36
What does that do?
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Čemu to služi?
14:37
It puts you into a proper relationship with reality.
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Stavlja vas u ispravan odnos sa stvarnošću.
14:41
Why?
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Zašto?
14:42
Because you have to ask for help.
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Zato što morate tražiti pomoć.
14:50
Heartbreak.
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Slomljeno srce.
14:52
We don't have a choice about heartbreak,
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Nemamo izbora oko slomljenog srca,
14:54
we only have a choice of having our hearts broken
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imamo samo izbor da nam srce slome
14:58
over people and things and projects that we deeply care about.
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ljudi i stvari i projekti za koje marimo.
15:05
And the last illusion is,
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A zadnja je iluzija
15:07
I can somehow plan enough and arrange things
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da mogu dovoljno planirati i organizirati
15:11
that I will be able to see the path to the end
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tako da vidim cestu do kraja
15:15
right from where I'm standing,
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upravo s ovog mjesta na kojem stojim,
15:17
right to the horizon.
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sve do obzora.
15:20
But when you think about it,
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Ali kada razmislite malo,
15:22
the only environment in which that would be true
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jedino okruženje u kojemu to može biti tako
15:25
would be a flat desert,
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jest ravna pustinja,
15:28
empty of any other life.
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bez ikakvog oblika života.
15:33
But even in a flat desert,
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No čak i u praznoj pustinji,
15:34
the curvature of the earth would take the path away from you.
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zaobljenost zemlje oduzela bi vam put.
15:38
So, no;
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Stoga, ne;
15:40
you see the path,
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vidite put,
15:41
and then you don't
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a zatim više ne,
15:43
and then you see it again.
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zatim ga opet vidite.
15:45
So this is "Santiago,"
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To je, dakle, "Santiago",
15:48
the supposed arrival,
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pretpostavljeni dolazak,
15:51
which is a kind of return to the beginning all at the same time.
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koji je istovremeno oblik povratka na početak.
15:55
We have this experience of the journey,
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Imamo doživljaj putovanja,
15:58
which is in all of our great spiritual traditions,
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koji se pojavljuje u svim duhovnim tradicijama,
16:00
of pilgrimage.
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hodočašća.
16:02
But just by actually standing in the ground of your life fully,
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Ali ako potpuno stojite na zemlji
16:06
not trying to abstract yourself into a strategic future
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i ne pokušavate se strateški dohvatiti budućnosti,
16:10
that's actually just an escape from present heartbreak;
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to je zapravo samo bijeg od slomljenog srca u sadašnjosti;
16:14
the ability to stand in the ground of your life
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mogućnost stajanja na zemlji
16:16
and to look at the horizon that is pulling you --
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i gledanja u obzor koji vas privlači...
16:20
in that moment,
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u tom trenutku,
16:21
you are the whole journey.
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vi ste cijelo putovanje.
16:23
You are the whole conversation.
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Vi ste cijeli razgovor.
16:27
"Santiago."
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"Santiago".
16:28
"The road seen, then not seen
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"Cesta koju vidiš pa ne vidiš
16:31
the road seen, then not seen
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cesta koju vidiš pa ne vidiš
16:36
the hillside hiding then revealing the way you should take
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brdo koje skriva pa otkriva put kojim moraš ići
16:40
the road seen, then not seen
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cesta koju vidiš pa ne vidiš
16:43
the hillside hiding then revealing the way you should take,
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brdo koje skriva pa otkriva put kojim moraš ići,
16:48
the road dropping away from you
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cesta koja te odvlači od tebe
16:52
as if leaving you to walk on thin air,
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kao da te stavlja na tanak led,
16:57
then catching you,
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zatim hvata,
16:58
catching you,
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hvata,
16:59
holding you up, when you thought you would fall,
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zadržava kad pomisliš da padaš,
17:02
catching you,
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hvata,
17:03
holding you up, when you thought you would fall,
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zadržava kad pomisliš da padaš,
17:05
and the way forward
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a put prema naprijed
17:07
the way forward always in the end
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put prema naprijed uvijek na kraju
17:11
the way that you came,
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put kojim si došao,
17:12
the way forward always in the end
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put prema naprijed uvijek na kraju
17:14
the way that you came,
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put kojim si došao,
17:15
the way that you followed, the way that carried you into your future,
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put koji si slijedio put koji te nosi u budućnost,
17:19
that brought you to this place,
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koji te doveo ovamo,
17:20
that brought you to this place,
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koji te doveo ovamo,
17:23
no matter that it sometimes had to take your promise from you,
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bez obzira što je ponekad tražio obećanja,
17:28
no matter that it always had to break your heart along the way:
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bez obzira što uvijek lomi tvoje srce;
17:34
the sense
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osjećaj
17:35
the sense of having walked from deep inside yourself
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osjećaj da si došao iz dubine sebe
17:40
out into the revelation,
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u otkrivenje,
17:43
to have risked yourself
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da si se doveo u opasnost
17:45
for something that seemed to stand both inside you and far beyond you,
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radi nečega što je postojalo u tebi i daleko izvan tebe,
17:51
and that called you back in the end
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i što te dovelo natrag na kraju
17:53
to the only road you could follow,
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na jedini put kojim možeš ići,
17:56
walking as you did, in your rags of love
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dok hodaš kao uvijek u dronjcima ljubavi
18:00
walking as you did, in your rags of love
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dok hodaš kao uvijek u dronjcima ljubavi
18:03
and speaking in the voice that by night became a prayer for safe arrival,
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i govoriš glasom koji noću postaje molitva za siguran uspjeh,
18:10
so that one day
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tako da jednog dana
18:12
one day you realized
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jednog dana shvatiš
18:14
that what you wanted had actually already happened
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da se sve što si želio već ostvarilo
18:18
one day you realized
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jednog dana shvatiš
18:20
that what you wanted had actually already happened
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da se sve što si želio već ostvarilo
18:22
and long ago
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i to davno
18:23
and in the dwelling place in which you lived before you began,
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i na mjestu na kojem si prije živio, s kojeg si krenuo
18:27
and that
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i da
18:28
and that every step along the way,
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i da si svakim korakom
18:31
every step along the way,
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svakim korakom
18:33
you had carried the heart and the mind and the promise
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nosio srce i um i obećanje
18:36
that first set you off and then drew you on,
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koji su te pokrenuli i održavali
18:39
and that
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i da
18:41
and that you were more marvelous
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i da si bio čarobniji
18:45
in your simple wish to find a way
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u jednostavnoj želji da pronađeš put
18:48
you were more marvelous in your simple wish to find a way
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bio si čarobniji u jednostavnoj želji da pronađeš put
18:52
than the gilded roofs of any destination you could reach
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od pozlaćenih krovova bilo kojeg odredišta
18:56
you were more marvelous in that simple wish to find a way
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bio si čarobniji u jednostavnoj želji da pronađeš put
19:00
than the gilded roofs of any destination you could reach:
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od pozlaćenih krovova bilo kojeg odredišta:
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as if, all along,
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kao da si cijelim putem
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you had thought the end point might be a city with golden domes,
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mislio da je krajnji cilj grad sa zlatnim kupolama,
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and cheering crowds,
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i razdragano mnoštvo,
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and turning the corner
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a kad si skrenuo iza ugla
19:10
at what you thought was the end of the road,
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tamo gdje si mislio da je kraj puta,
19:15
you found just a simple reflection,
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stajao je jednostavan odraz,
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and a clear revelation beneath the face looking back
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i jasno otkrivenje ispod lica koja te gleda,
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and beneath it another invitation,
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i ispod toga još jedan poziv,
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all in one glimpse
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sve u jednom pogledu
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all in one glimpse:
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sve u jednom pogledu:
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like a person
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poput osobe
19:33
like a person or a place you had sought forever
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poput osobe ili mjesta koje oduvijek tražiš
19:37
like a person or a place you had sought forever,
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poput osobe ili mjesta koje oduvijek tražiš,
19:40
like a bold field of freedom that beckoned you beyond;
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poput hrabrog polja slobode koje te doziva;
19:45
like another life
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poput drugog života
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like another life,
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poput drugog života,
19:48
and the road
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a cesta
19:49
the road still stretching on."
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cesta nastavlja dalje."
19:54
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
19:55
Thank you.
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Hvala.
19:56
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
20:01
Thank you.
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Hvala.
20:02
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
20:07
Thank you very much. Thank you.
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Puno hvala. Hvala.
20:10
You're very kind. Thank you.
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Jako ste dragi. Hvala.
20:11
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
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