Should you be able to patent a human gene? | Tania Simoncelli

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Prevodilac: Jasmina Francuski Lektor: Ivana Krivokuća
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It was an afternoon in the fall of 2005.
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Bilo je to jednog popodneva u jesen 2005.
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I was working at the ACLU as the organization's science advisor.
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Radila sam u Američkom udruženju za građanske slobode kao naučni savetnik.
00:21
I really, really loved my job,
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Stvarno sam mnogo volela svoj posao,
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but I was having one of those days
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ali bio je to jedan od onih dana
00:25
where I was feeling just a little bit discouraged.
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kada sam bila pomalo obeshrabrena.
00:29
So I wandered down the hallway to my colleague Chris Hansen's office.
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Otišla sam niz hodnik do kancelarije mog kolege Krisa Hansena.
00:34
Chris had been at the ACLU for more than 30 years,
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Kris je radio u Udruženju duže od 30 godina,
00:38
so he had deep institutional knowledge and insights.
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pa je izuzetno dobro poznavao funkcionisanje organizacije.
00:41
I explained to Chris that I was feeling a little bit stuck.
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Objasnila sam Krisu da sam malo zapela.
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I had been investigating a number of issues
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Istraživala sam nekoliko problema
00:47
at the intersection of science and civil liberties -- super interesting.
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u kojima se prepliću nauka i slobode građana - super zanimljivo.
00:53
But I wanted the ACLU to engage these issues in a much bigger way,
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Ipak, želela sam da se Udruženje mnogo ozbiljnije posveti ovim pitanjima,
00:56
in a way that could really make a difference.
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na način koji bi stvarno ostavio traga.
01:01
So Chris cut right to the chase, and he says,
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Kris je odmah prešao na stvar i rekao je:
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"Well, of all the issues you've been looking at, what are the top five?"
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„Od svih problema koje si istraživala, kojih pet izdvajaš?“
01:07
"Well, there's genetic discrimination,
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„Pa, tu je genetska diskriminacija,
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and reproductive technologies,
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reproduktivne tehnologije,
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and biobanking, and ...
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čuvanje biološkog materijala...
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oh, there's this really cool issue,
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Tu je i to stvarno strava pitanje,
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functional MRI and using it for lie detection, and ...
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funkcionalna MR i njeno korišćenje za otkrivanje laži
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oh, and of course, there's gene patents."
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i, naravno, tu su patenti nad genima.“
01:21
"Gene patents?"
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„Patenti nad genima?“
01:23
"Yes, you know, patents on human genes."
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„Da, znaš, patenti nad ljudskim genima.“
01:26
"No!
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„Ne!
01:27
You're telling me that the US government
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Hoćeš da kažeš da Vlada SAD-a
01:30
has been issuing patents on part of the human body?
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izdaje patente nad delovima ljudskog tela?
01:33
That can't be right."
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Nemoguće.“
01:35
I went back to my office and sent Chris three articles.
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Vratila sam se u svoju kancelariju i poslala Krisu tri članka.
01:39
And 20 minutes later, he came bursting in my office.
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Dvadeset minuta kasnije, uleteo je u moju kancelariju.
01:43
"Oh my god! You're right! Who can we sue?"
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„Gospode! U pravu si! Koga možemo da tužimo?“
01:47
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
01:49
Now Chris is a really brilliant lawyer,
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Kris je stvarno sjajan advokat,
01:52
but he knew almost nothing about patent law
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ali nije znao skoro ništa o Zakonu o patentima,
01:55
and certainly nothing about genetics.
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a apsolutno ništa o genetici.
01:57
I knew something about genetics, but I wasn't even a lawyer,
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Ja sam znala ponešto o genetici, ali nisam bila advokat,
02:00
let alone a patent lawyer.
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a kamoli zastupnik za patente.
02:02
So clearly we had a lot to learn before we could file a lawsuit.
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Jasno, trebalo je mnogo toga da naučimo pre nego što podnesemo tužbu.
02:06
First, we needed to understand exactly what was patented
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Prvo, trebalo je da shvatimo šta se tačno patentira
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when someone patented a gene.
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kad neko patentira gen.
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Gene patents typically contain dozens of claims,
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Patenti nad genima obično sadrže više desetina tvrdnji,
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but the most controversial of these are to so-called "isolated DNA" --
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ali najkontroverznija od svih je takozvana izolovana DNK -
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namely, a piece of DNA that has been removed from a cell.
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naime, deo DNK koji je izdvojen iz ćelije.
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Gene patent proponents say,
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Pobornici patentiranja kažu:
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"See? We didn't patent the gene in your body,
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„Vidite? Nismo patentirali gen u vašem telu,
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we patented an isolated gene."
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patentirali smo izolovani gen.“
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And that's true,
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I to je tačno,
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but the problem is that any use of the gene requires that it be isolated.
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ali problem je to što svaka upotreba gena zahteva da on bude izolovan.
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And the patents weren't just to a particular gene that they isolated,
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Nisu patentirali samo određene izolovane gene,
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but on every possible version of that gene.
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već i svaku moguću verziju tih gena.
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So what does that mean?
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Šta to znači?
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That means that you can't give your gene to your doctor
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To znači da ne možete dati svoj gen svom lekaru
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and ask him or her to look at it,
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i tražiti od njega da ga istraži,
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say, to see if it has any mutations,
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na primer, da vidi da li ima kakvih mutacija
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without permission of the patent holder.
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bez dozvole nosioca patenta.
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It also means that the patent holder has the right to stop anyone
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To takođe znači da nosilac patenta ima pravo da zabrani bilo kome
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from using that gene in research or clinical testing.
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da koristi taj gen u istraživačke svrhe ili za klinička ispitivanja.
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Allowing patent holders,
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Dopuštanje nosiocima patenta,
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often private companies,
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često privatnim firmama,
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to lock up stretches of the human genome was harming patients.
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da zaključaju delove ljudskog genoma, štetilo je pacijentima.
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Consider Abigail,
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Pogledajte Abigejl, desetogodišnjakinju sa sindrom produženog QT intervala,
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a 10-year-old with long QT syndrome,
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a serious heart condition that, if left untreated,
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ozbiljnom bolešću srca koja, ako se ne leči,
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can result in sudden death.
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može dovesti do iznenadne smrti.
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The company that obtained a patent on two genes associated with this condition
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Kompanija koja je dobila patent nad dva gena vezana za ovu bolest
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developed a test to diagnose the syndrome.
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napravila je test za dijagnozu ovog sindroma.
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But then they went bankrupt and they never offered it.
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Međutim, zatim su bankrotirali i nikad ga nisu ponudili.
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So another lab tried to offer the test,
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To je pokušala druga laboratorija,
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but the company that held the patents threatened to sue the lab
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ali kompanija koja je imala patent pretila im je tužbom
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for patent infringement.
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za kršenje patenta.
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So as a result,
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Ishod je bio to
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for 2 years, no test was available.
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da je test bio nedostupan dve godine.
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During that time,
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Za to vreme, Abigejl je umrla
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Abigail died of undiagnosed long QT.
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od nedijagnostikovanog sindroma produženog QT intervala.
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Gene patents clearly were a problem and were harming patients.
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Pateti nad genima su predstavljali problem i štetili su pacijentima.
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But was there a way we could challenge them?
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A da li je postojao način da se ospore?
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Turns out that the Supreme Court
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Ispostavlja se da je Vrhovni sud
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has made clear through a long line of cases,
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jasno odredio, kroz mnoštvo predmeta,
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that certain things are not patent eligible.
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da određene stvari nije moguće patentirati.
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You can't patent products of nature --
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Ne mogu se patentirati proizvodi prirode:
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the air, the water, minerals, elements of the periodic table.
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vazduh, voda, minerali, elementi periodnog sistema.
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And you can't patent laws of nature --
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Ne mogu se patentirati ni zakoni prirode:
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the law of gravity, E = mc2.
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zakon gravitacije, E=mc2.
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These things are just too fundamental and must remain free to all
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Ove stvari su jednostavno fundamentalne i moraju biti besplatne za sve,
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and reserved exclusively to none.
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a ni za koga isključivo rezervisane.
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It seemed to us that DNA,
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Nama se činilo da DNK,
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the most fundamental structure of life,
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najfundamentalnija struktura života,
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that codes for the production of all of our proteins,
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koja kodira proizvodnju svih naših belančevina,
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is both a product of nature and a law of nature,
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jeste istovremeno proizvod prirode i zakon prirode,
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regardless of whether it's in our bodies
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bez obzira na to da li se nalazi u našim telima
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or sitting in the bottom of a test tube.
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ili na dnu epruvete.
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As we delved into this issue,
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Sve više istražujući problem,
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we traveled all over the country to speak with many different experts --
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putovali smo širom zemlje kako bismo razgovarali sa različitim stručnjacima
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scientists, medical professionals, lawyers, patent lawyers.
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naučnicima, medicinskim profesionalcima, advokatima, zastupnicima za patente.
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Most of them agreed that we were right as a matter of policy,
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Većina njih se složila da smo u pravu u pogledu politike
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and, at least in theory, as a matter of law.
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i, makar teoretski, u pogledu zakona.
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All of them thought
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Svi su mislili
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our chances of winning a gene-patent challenge
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da su nam šanse da pobedimo patentiranje nad genima
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were about zero.
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otprilike ravne nuli.
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Why is that?
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Zašto?
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Well, the patent office had been issuing these patents
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Kancelarija za patente je izdavala ove patente
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for more than 20 years.
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duže od 20 godina.
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There were literally thousands of patents on human genes.
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Bilo je bukvalno hiljade patenata nad ljudskim genima.
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The patent bar was deeply entrenched in the status quo,
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Komora zastupnika za patente se duboko ukopala u status kvo,
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the biotech industry had grown up around this practice,
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biotehnološka industija se razvila oko ovakve prakse,
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and legislation to ban gene patents had been introduced
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a zakoni za zabranu patenata nad genima
su godinama predlagani u Kongresu,
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year after year in Congress,
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05:36
and had gone absolutely nowhere.
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ali se s tim nigde nije stiglo.
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So the bottom line:
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Suština je sledeća:
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courts just weren't going to be willing to overturn these patents.
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sudovi jednostavno nisu bili voljni da ponište ove patente.
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Now, neither Chris nor I were the type to shy away from a challenge,
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Ni Kris ni ja nismo od onih što se povlače pred izazovima,
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and hearing, "Being right just isn't enough,"
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pa su reči: „Nije dovoljno samo biti u pravu“
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seemed all the more reason to take on this fight.
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bile samo razlog više da započnemo ovu borbu.
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So we set out to build our case.
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Tako smo počeli da gradimo naš predmet.
05:59
Now, patent cases tend to be: Company A sues Company B
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Ovi predmeti obično idu ovako: kompanija A tuži kompaniju B
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over some really narrow, obscure technical issue.
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zbog nekog usko tehničkog pitanja.
06:06
We weren't really interested in that kind of case,
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Nas nije zanimala ta vrsta predmeta
i mislili smo da je ovaj predmet mnogo širi od toga.
06:09
and we thought this case was much bigger than that.
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Radilo se o naučnoj slobodi, napretku medicine,
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This was about scientific freedom, medical progress,
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06:14
the rights of patients.
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pravima pacijenata.
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So we decided we were going to develop a case
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Odlučili smo da ćemo pripremiti predmet
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that was not like your typical patent case --
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koji neće biti poput tipičnih predmeta vezanih za patente,
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more like a civil rights case.
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više kao predmet iz oblasti građanskih prava.
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We set out to identify a gene-patent holder
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Počeli smo tako što smo pronašli nosioca patenta nad genima
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that was vigorously enforcing its patents
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koji je snažno sprovodio svoja patentna prava,
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and then to organize a broad coalition of plaintiffs and experts
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a potom smo organizovali široku koaliciju tužitelja i stručnjaka
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that could tell the court
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koji bi mogli reći sudu
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about all the ways that these patents were harming patients and innovation.
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na koje sve načine ovi patenti štete pacijentima i inovacijama.
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We found the prime candidate to sue in Myriad Genetics,
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Glavnog kandidata za tužbu smo pronašli u Mirijad Dženetiks,
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a company that's based in Salt Lake City, Utah.
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kompaniji sa sedištem u Solt Lejk Sitiju, u Juti.
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Myriad held patents on two genes,
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Mirijad je imao patente nad dva gena,
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the BRCA1 and the BRCA2 genes.
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nad BRCA1 i BRCA2 genima.
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Women with certain mutations along these genes
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Za žene sa određenim mutacijama u ovim genima
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are considered to be at a significantly increased risk
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smatra se da su izložene znatno većem riziku
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of developing breast and ovarian cancer.
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da dobiju rak dojke ili jajnika.
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Myriad had used its patents to maintain
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Mirijad je koristio svoje patente da bi zadržao potpuni monopol
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a complete monopoly on BRCA testing in the United States.
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nad testiranjem BRCA u SAD-u.
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It had forced multiple labs that were offering BRCA testing to stop.
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Prisilio je više laboratorija sa ponudom testiranja BRCA da to prekinu.
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It charged a lot of money for its test --
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Naplaćivao je mnogo novca za svoj test -
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over 3,000 dollars.
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preko 3 000 dolara.
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It had stopped sharing its clinical data
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Prestao je da deli svoje kliničke podatke
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with the international scientific community.
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sa međunarodnom naučnom zajednicom.
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And perhaps worst of all,
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A možda najgore od svega,
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for a period of several years,
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u periodu od nekoliko godina,
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Myriad refused to update its test to include additional mutations
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Mirijad je odbio da ažurira svoj test kako bi uključio dodatne mutacije
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that had been identified by a team of researchers in France.
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koje je otkrio tim istraživača iz Francuske.
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It has been estimated that during that period,
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Procenjuje se da je tokom tog perioda,
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for several years,
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od nekoliko godina,
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as many as 12 percent of women undergoing testing
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12 procenata žena koje su se testirale
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received the wrong answer --
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dobilo pogrešan odgovor -
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a negative test result that should have been positive.
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negativan rezultat testa koji je trebalo da bude pozitivan.
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This is Kathleen Maxian.
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Ovo je Ketlin Maksijan.
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Kathleen's sister Eileen developed breast cancer at age 40
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Ketlinina sestra Ajlin je dobila rak dojke sa 40 godina
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and she was tested by Myriad.
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i testirali su je u Mirijadu.
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The test was negative.
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Test je bio negativan.
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The family was relieved.
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Porodici je laknulo.
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That meant that Eileen's cancer most likely didn't run in the family,
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To je značilo da Ajlinin rak najverovatnije nije nasledan
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and that other members of her family didn't need to be tested.
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i da ostali članovi porodice ne treba da se testiraju.
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But two years later,
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Međutim, posle dve godine,
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Kathleen was diagnosed with advanced-stage ovarian cancer.
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kod Ketlin je utvrđen rak jajnika u odmakloj fazi.
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It turned out that Kathleen's sister was among the 12 percent
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Ispostavilo se da je Ketlinina sestra među onih 12 procenata
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who received a false-negative test result.
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koje su primile lažne negativne rezultate.
08:26
Had Eileen received the proper result,
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Da je Ajlin dobila ispravne rezultate,
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Kathleen would have then been tested,
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Ketlin bi bila testirana
08:31
and her ovarian cancer could have been prevented.
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i njen rak jajnika je mogao biti sprečen.
08:36
Once we settled on Myriad,
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Pošto smo izabrali Mirijad,
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we then had to form a coalition of plaintiffs and experts
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trebalo je da formiramo koaliciju tužitelja i stručnjaka
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that could illuminate these problems.
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koji bi mogli rasvetliti ove probleme.
08:44
We ended up with 20 highly committed plaintiffs:
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Na kraju smo imali 20 veoma posvećenih tužitelja:
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genetic counselors,
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savetnika genetičara,
08:48
geneticists who had received cease and desist letters,
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genetičara koji su bili primili pisma sa zahtevom o obustavi rada,
08:52
advocacy organizations,
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zastupničke organizacije,
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four major scientific organizations that collectively represented
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četiri glavne naučne organizacije koje su zajedno predstavljale
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more than 150,000 scientists and medical professionals,
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više od 150 000 naučnika i medicinskih stručnjaka,
09:02
and individual women who either couldn't afford Myriad's test,
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kao i pojedinačne žene koje ili nisu mogle da priušte Mirijadov test,
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or who wanted to obtain a second opinion but could not,
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ili koje su želele da dobiju drugo mišljenje, ali nisu mogle,
09:09
as a result of the patents.
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zbog patentnih prava.
09:12
One of the major challenges we had in preparing the case
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Jedan od glavnih izazova u pripremi predmeta
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was figuring out how best to communicate the science.
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bio je da se pronađe najbolji način za objašnjenje nauke.
09:19
So in order to argue that what Myriad did was not an invention,
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Da bismo obrazložili da ono što je Mirijad uradio nije izum
09:22
and that isolated BRCA genes were products of nature,
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i da su izolovani geni BRCA produkti prirode,
09:27
we had to explain a couple of basic concepts, like:
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trebalo je da objasnimo osnovne koncepte poput:
09:29
What's a gene? What's DNA?
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šta je gen, šta je DNK,
09:32
How is DNA isolated, and why isn't that an invention?
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kako se izoluje DNK i zašto to nije izum?
09:37
We spent hours and hours with our plaintiffs and experts,
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Proveli smo sate i sate s našim tužiteljima i stručnjacima,
09:41
trying to come up with ways of explaining these concepts
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pokušavajući da iznađemo načine da objasnimo ove pojmove
09:44
simply yet accurately.
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na jednostavan i precizan način.
09:46
And we ended up relying heavily on the use of metaphors,
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Na kraju smo se u velikoj meri oslonili na upotrebu metafora,
09:49
like gold.
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kao što je zlato.
09:51
So isolating DNA --
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Izolovanje DNK -
09:54
it's like extracting gold from a mountain
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to je kao vađenje zlata iz planine
09:57
or taking it out of a stream bed.
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ili iz rečnog korita.
09:59
You might be able to patent the process for mining the gold,
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Možda biste mogli patentirati proces vađenja zlata,
10:02
but you can't patent the gold itself.
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ali ne možete patentirati samo zlato.
10:05
It might've taken a lot of hard work and effort
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Moguće je da je bilo potrebno mnogo truda i rada
10:08
to dig the gold out of the mountain;
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da se zlato iskopa iz planine,
ali ipak ga ne možete patentirati, to je i dalje zlato.
10:11
you still can't patent it, it's still gold.
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10:13
And the gold, once it's extracted,
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A zlato, kad ga izvadite,
10:15
can clearly be used for all sorts of things
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može biti upotrebljeno u različite svrhe
10:17
that it couldn't be used for when it was in the mountain;
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koje su bile nemoguće dok je još uvek bilo u planini.
Možete, na primer, napraviti nakit,
10:20
you can make jewelry out of it for example --
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no i dalje ne možete patentirati zlato, i dalje je u pitanju zlato.
10:22
still can't patent the gold, it's still gold.
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10:25
So now it's 2009, and we're ready to file our case.
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Stižemo u 2009. godinu, spremni smo da podnesemo našu tužbu.
10:30
We filed in federal court in the Southern District of New York,
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Podneli smo je Federalnom sudu u Južnom okrugu Njujorka
10:34
and the case was randomly assigned to Judge Robert Sweet.
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i predmet je nasumično dodeljen sudiji Robertu Svitu.
10:38
In March 2010, Judge Sweet issued his opinion --
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Marta 2010. godine, sudija Svit je objavio je svoje mišljenje
10:42
152 pages --
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na 152 strane,
10:44
and a complete victory for our side.
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što je bila potpuna pobeda za nas.
10:47
In reading the opinion,
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Čitajući mišljenje,
10:49
we could not get over how eloquently he described the science in the case.
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nismo mogli da shvatimo kako je rečito opisao nauku u našem predmetu.
10:54
I mean, our brief -- it was pretty good,
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Mislim, naš podnesak je bio prilično dobar,
10:57
but not this good.
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ali ne toliko dobar.
10:59
How did he develop such a deep understanding of this issue
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Kako je mogao razviti tako duboko razumevanje ovog problema
11:03
in such a short time?
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za tako kratko vreme?
11:04
We just could not comprehend how this had happened.
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Jednostavno nismo mogli da shvatimo kako se to dogodilo.
11:07
So it turned out,
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Ispostavilo se,
11:09
Judge Sweet's clerk working for him at the time,
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službenik sudije Svita koji je radio za njega u to vreme
11:12
was not just a lawyer --
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ne samo da je bio advokat
11:14
he was a scientist.
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već je bio i naučnik.
11:15
He was not just a scientist --
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Nije bio običan naučnik,
11:17
he had a PhD in molecular biology.
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imao je doktorat iz molekularne biologije.
11:20
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
11:22
What an incredible stroke of luck!
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Kakva neverovatna sreća!
11:26
Myriad then appealed
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Mirijad se onda žalio
11:27
to the US Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit.
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Saveznom okružnom žalbenom sudu SAD-a.
11:30
And here things got really interesting.
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Ovde su stvari postale veoma zanimljive.
11:33
First, in a pivotal moment of this case,
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Prvo, u ključnom trenutku u ovom predmetu,
11:37
the US government switched sides.
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vlada SAD-a je promenila stranu.
11:40
So in the district court the government submitted a brief on Myriad's side.
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Tako je u okružnom sudu vlada dostavila podnesak u korist Mirijada.
11:44
But now in direct opposition to its own patent office,
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Međutim, ovog puta, u direktnoj opoziciji svojoj kancelariji za patente,
11:49
the US government files a brief that states that is has
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vlada SAD-a dostavlja podnesak u kom se navodi
11:52
reconsidered this issue in light of the district court's opinion,
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da je razmotrila ovo pitanje u svetlu mišljenja okružnog suda
11:56
and has concluded that isolated DNA is not patent eligible.
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i zaključila da izolovana DNK ne može biti patentirana.
11:59
This was a really big deal,
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Ovo je bila stvarno velika stvar
12:01
totally unexpected.
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i potpuno neočekivana.
12:04
The Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit
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Apelacioni sud za federalne okruge
12:06
hears all patent cases,
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razmatra sve predmete vezane za patente
12:08
and it has a reputation for being very, very pro-patent.
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i ima reputaciju da je izuzetno naklonjen patentima.
12:12
So even with this remarkable development,
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Čak i uz ovaj izuzetan razvoj događaja,
12:14
we expected to lose.
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očekivali smo da ćemo izgubiti.
12:16
And we did.
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I jesmo.
12:18
Sort of.
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Na neki način.
12:20
Ends up split decision, 2 to 1.
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Završilo se većinskom odlukom 2 prema 1.
12:23
But the two judges who ruled against us,
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Međutim, dvoje sudija koji su doneli odluku protiv nas
12:26
did so for completely different reasons.
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učinili su to iz različitih razloga.
12:29
The first one, Judge Lourie,
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Prvi, sudija Luri,
12:31
made up his own novel, biological theory --
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osmislio je sopstvenu neispitanu biološku teoriju,
12:34
totally wrong.
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potpuno pogrešnu.
12:35
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
12:36
He decided Myriad had created a new chemical --
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Rešio je da je Mirijad stvorio novu hemikaliju,
12:38
made absolutely no sense.
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što nije imalo nikakvog smisla.
12:40
Myriad didn't even argue this, so it came out of the blue.
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Mirijad to nije ni tvrdio, pa je bilo sasvim neočekivano.
12:43
The other, Judge Moore,
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Druga, sudija Mur,
12:45
said she basically agreed with us that isolated DNA is a product of nature.
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rekla je da se u suštini slaže s nama da je izolovana DNK produkt prirode,
12:49
But she's like, "I don't want to shake up the biotech industry."
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ali je rekla: „Ne želim da uzdrmam biotehnološku industriju.“
12:54
The third, Judge Bryson,
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Treći, sudija Brajson,
12:57
agreed with us.
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složio se s nama.
12:59
So now we sought review by the Supreme Court.
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Tražili smo reviziju odluke pred Vrhovnim sudom.
13:02
And when you petition the Supreme Court,
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Kad podnosite tužbeni zahtev Vrhovnom sudu
13:05
you have to present a question that you want the Court to answer.
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morate postaviti pitanje na koje želite da vam sud odgovori.
13:08
Usually these questions take the form of a super-long paragraph,
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Ova pitanja su obično u formi super dugih pasusa,
13:12
like a whole page long with lots and lots of clauses,
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otprilike od jedne strane sa mnogo, mnogo klauzula,
13:15
"wherein this" and "therefore that."
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„u kojem je ovo“ i „stoga ono“.
13:18
We submitted perhaps the shortest question presented ever.
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Podneli smo verovatno najkraće pitanje ikada.
13:23
Four words:
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Nekoliko reči:
13:26
Are human genes patentable?
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„Mogu li se ljudski geni patentirati?“
13:28
Now when Chris first asked me what I thought of these words,
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Kad me Kris prvi put pitao šta mislim o ovim rečima,
13:31
I said, "Well, I don't know.
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rekla sam: „Ne znam.
Mislim da treba da kažeš: 'Može li se izolovana DNK patentirati?'“
13:33
I think you have to say, 'Is isolated DNA patentable?'"
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13:36
"Nope.
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„Ne.
13:38
I want the justices to have the very same reaction that I had
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Hoću da sudije reaguju na potpuno isti način kao i ja
13:43
when you brought this issue to me seven years ago."
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kad si mi izložila ovaj problem pre sedam godina.“
13:46
Well, I certainly couldn't argue with that.
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To svakako nisam mogla da osporim.
13:49
The Supreme Court only hears about one percent
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Vrhovni sud sasluša svega oko jedan posto
13:52
of the cases that it receives,
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predmeta koje primi,
13:54
and it agreed to hear ours.
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i složili su se da saslušaju naš.
13:57
The day of the oral argument arrives, and it was really, really exciting --
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Došao je dan usmene rasprave i bilo je veoma, veoma uzbudljivo -
14:01
long line of people outside,
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napolju dugačak red ljudi,
14:03
people had been standing in line since 2:30 in the morning
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ljudi su stajali u redu od 2.30 ujutro
da bi probali da uđu u zgradu suda.
14:06
to try to get into the courthouse.
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14:07
Two breast cancer organizations,
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Dve grupe za borbu protiv raka dojke,
14:09
Breast Cancer Action and FORCE,
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Akcija protiv raka dojke i FORS,
14:11
had organized a demonstration on the courthouse steps.
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organizovale su demonstracije na stepeništu suda.
14:15
Chris and I sat quietly in the hallway,
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Kris i ja smo sedeli u hodniku, bez reči,
14:18
moments before he was to walk in and argue
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nekoliko trenutaka pre no što je trebalo da uđe
14:21
the most important case of his career.
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i obrazloži najvažniji predmet u svojoj karijeri.
14:24
I was clearly more nervous than he was.
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Očigledno sam bila nervoznija od njega.
14:28
But any remaining panic subsided as I walked into the courtroom
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Međutim, sva panika je nestala kad sam ušla u sudnicu
14:32
and looked around at a sea of friendly faces:
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i pogledala u more prijateljskih lica:
14:36
our individual women clients
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naše ženske klijente
14:37
who had shared their deeply personal stories,
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koje su ispričale svoje lične priče,
14:41
the geneticists who had taken huge chunks of time out of their busy careers
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genetičari koji su izdvojili veliki deo svog vremena
14:44
to dedicate themselves to this fight
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da bi se posvetili ovoj borbi
14:47
and representatives from a diverse array
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i predstavnici različitih organizacija:
14:49
of medical, patient advocacy,
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medicinskih, zastupnika pacijenata,
14:51
environmental and religious organizations,
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zaštite životne sredine i verskih,
14:53
who had submitted friend of the court briefs in the case.
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koji su dostavili podneske prijatelja suda u ovom predmetu.
14:58
Also in the room were three leaders of the Human Genome Project,
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Bilo je prisutno i troje rukovodilaca projekta Ljudski genom,
15:01
including the co-discoverer of DNA himself,
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uključujući i jednog od pronalazača DNK lično,
15:04
James Watson,
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Džejmsa Votsona,
15:05
who had submitted a brief to the court,
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koji je dostavio podnesak sudu
15:07
where he referred to gene patenting as "lunacy."
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u kom je patentiranje gena opisao kao „ludilo“.
15:11
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
15:13
The diversity of the communities represented in this room
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Raznolikost grupa predstavljenih u toj prostoriji
15:16
and the contributions each had made to make this day a reality
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i doprinos koji je svaka od njih dala da ovaj dan postane stvarnost,
15:20
spoke volumes to what was at stake.
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govorilo je više od reči o tome šta je na kocki.
15:23
The argument itself was riveting.
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Samo iznošenje činjenica je bilo upečatljivo.
15:26
Chris argued brilliantly.
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Kris je sjajno obrazlagao.
15:27
But for me,
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Međutim, za mene,
15:29
the most thrilling aspect was watching the Supreme Court justices grapple
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najuzbudljiviji deo je bio da gledam kako se sudije Vrhovnog suda bore
15:32
with isolated DNA,
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s izolovanom DNK,
15:34
through a series of colorful analogies and feisty exchanges,
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kroz niz slikovitih analogija i eksplozivnih razmena,
15:37
very much the same way as our legal team had done
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na prilično sličan način na koji je naš pravni tim to radio
15:41
for the past seven years.
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u proteklih sedam godina.
15:43
Justice Kagan likened isolating DNA
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Sudija Kegan je uporedila izolovanu DNK
15:46
to extracting a medicinal plant from the Amazon.
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sa vađenjem medicinske biljke iz Amazona.
15:50
Justice Roberts distinguished it from carving a baseball bat from a tree.
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Sudija Roberts je uporedio s rezbarenjem palice za bejzbol iz drveta.
15:55
And in one of my absolutely favorite moments,
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U jednom od mojih najomiljenijih trenutaka,
15:58
Justice Sotomayor proclaimed isolated DNA to be "just nature sitting there."
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sudija Sotomajor proglasila je izolovanu DNK
„prirodom koja je jednostavno tu“.
16:03
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
16:05
We felt pretty confident leaving the courtroom that day,
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Bili smo samouvereni kad smo napustili sudnicu tog dana,
16:08
but I could never have anticipated the outcome:
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ali nisam mogla ni da naslutim ishod:
16:12
nine to zero.
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devet prema nula.
16:15
"A naturally occurring DNA segment is a product of nature,
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Segment DNK koji se javlja prirodno jeste proizvod prirode
16:18
and not patent-eligible merely because it has been isolated.
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i nije podložan patentiranju samo zato što je izolovan.
16:22
And furthermore,
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Pored toga,
16:23
Myriad did not create anything."
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Mirijad nije stvorio ništa.
16:28
Within 24 hours of the decision,
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Dvadeset četiri časa po donošenju odluke,
16:30
five labs had announced
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pet laboratorija je objavilo
16:31
that they would begin to offer testing for the BRCA genes.
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da će početi da nude testiranje na BRCA gene.
16:35
Some of them promised to offer the tests at a lower price than Myriad's.
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Neke su obećale da će ponuditi cene niže od Mirijadovih.
16:39
Some promised to provide a more comprehensive test
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Neke su obećale sveobuhvatniji test
16:42
than the one Myriad was offering.
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od onog koji je nudio Mirijad.
16:44
But of course the decision goes far beyond Myriad.
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Naravno, presuda je važnija od samog Mirijada.
16:47
It ends a 25-year practice of allowing patents on human genes
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Ona ukida 25-godišnju praksu
koja je dozvoljavala patentiranje ljudskih gena u Sjedinjenim Državama.
16:51
in the United States.
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16:53
It clears a significant barrier to biomedical discovery and innovation.
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Uklanja značajnu barijeru biomedicinskim otkrićima i inovacijama
16:58
And it helps to ensure that patients like Abigail, Kathleen and Eileen
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i pomaže da se osigura da pacijenti poput Abigejl, Ketlin i Ajlin
17:03
have access to the tests that they need.
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imaju pristup testovima koji su im potrebni.
17:06
A few weeks after the court issued its decision,
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Nekoliko nedelja nakon što je sud doneo odluku,
17:10
I received a small package in the mail.
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poštom sam primila mali paket.
17:13
It was from Bob Cook-Deegan,
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Poslao ga je Bob Kuk-Digan,
17:14
a professor at Duke University
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profesor na Univerzitetu Djuk
17:17
and one the very first people Chris and I went to visit
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i jedan od prvih ljudi koje smo Kris i ja posetili
17:20
when we started to consider whether to bring this case.
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dok smo još razmatrali da li da pokrenemo ovaj slučaj.
17:24
I opened it up to find a small stuffed animal.
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Otvorila sam ga i našla ovu plišanu životinjicu.
17:28
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
17:33
We took a big risk in taking this case.
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Preuzeli smo veliki rizik pokrenuvši ovaj slučaj.
17:36
Part of what gave us the courage to take that risk
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Ono što nam je ulilo hrabrost da preuzmemo taj rizik
17:39
was knowing that we were doing the right thing.
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je bilo to što smo znali da radimo pravu stvar.
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The process took nearly eight years from the start to finish,
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Proces je trajao skoro osam godina od početka do kraja,
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with many twists and turns along the way.
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uz mnoge iznenadne obrte usput.
17:48
A little luck certainly helped,
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Imali smo i malo sreće,
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but it was the communities that we bridged,
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ali su grupe koje smo povezali
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the alliances that we created,
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i saveze koje smo stvorili,
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that made pigs fly.
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omogućile svinjama da lete.
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Thank you.
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Hvala vam.
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(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
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