Angelo Vermeulen: How to go to space, without having to go to space

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์•„๋ž˜ ์˜๋ฌธ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ”ํด๋ฆญํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด ์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋ฒˆ์—ญ: Jinseul Park ๊ฒ€ํ† : YERI OH
00:12
I am multidisciplinary.
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์ €๋Š” ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๋ถ„์•ผ์— ๊ฑธ์ณ ๊ณต๋ถ€ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:14
As a scientist, I've been a crew commander for a NASA Mars simulation last year,
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๊ณผํ•™์ž๋กœ์„œ, ์ €๋Š” ์ž‘๋…„ NASA์˜ ํ™”์„ฑ ์‹œ๋ฎฌ๋ ˆ์ด์…˜ ํŒ€์˜ ์„ ์žฅ์ด์—ˆ๊ณ 
00:19
and as an artist, I create multicultural community art all over the planet.
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์˜ˆ์ˆ ๊ฐ€๋กœ์„œ, ์ €๋Š” ์ „์„ธ๊ณ„์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋‹ค๋ฌธํ™” ๊ณต๋™์ฒด ์˜ˆ์ˆ ์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:26
And recently, I've actually been combining both.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ตœ๊ทผ์— ์ €๋Š” ์ด ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€๋ฅผ ์œตํ•ฉํ•ด๋ดค์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:29
But let me first talk a little more about that NASA mission.
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์šฐ์„ ์€ NASA ๋ฏธ์…˜์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋” ์–˜๊ธฐํ•ด๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
์ด๊ฒƒ์ด HI-SEAS ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋žจ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:33
This is the HI-SEAS program.
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00:35
HI-SEAS is a NASA-funded planetary surface analogue
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HI-SEAS ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋žจ์€ NASA๊ฐ€ ๊ธฐ๊ธˆ์„ ๋งˆ๋ จํ•ด ๋งŒ๋“  ํ–‰์„ฑ ํ‘œ๋ฉด์œ ์‚ฌ์ฒด๋กœ,
00:38
on the Mauna Loa volcano in Hawaii,
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ํ•˜์™€์ด์˜ ๋งˆ์šฐ๋‚˜ ๋กœ์•„ ํ™”์‚ฐ ์œ„์— ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:41
and it's a research program that is specifically designed
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์ •๋ฐ€ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์„ค๊ณ„๋œ ์กฐ์‚ฌ ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋žจ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:44
to study the effects of long-term isolation of small crews.
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์˜ค๋žœ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ„ ๊ณ ๋ฆฝ๋œ ์†Œ์ˆ˜ ํŒ€์›๋“ค์˜ ํšจ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ์—ฐ๊ตฌํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด์„œ์˜€์ฃ .
00:49
I lived in this dome for four months with a crew of six,
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์ €๋Š” ์ด ๋”์— 4๋‹ฌ๊ฐ„ 6๋ช…์˜ ํŒ€์›๋“ค๊ณผ ์‚ด์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:53
a very interesting experience, of course.
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์ •๋ง ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ๊ฒฝํ—˜์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:56
We did all kinds of research.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์กฐ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
์‚ฌ์‹ค ์ฃผ๋œ ์กฐ์‚ฌ๋Š” ์Œ์‹ ์—ฐ๊ตฌ์˜€์ง€๋งŒ
00:59
Our main research was actually a food study,
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01:01
but apart from that food study --
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๋จผ ์šฐ์ฃผ์— ์‚ฌ๋Š” ์šฐ์ฃผ๋น„ํ–‰์‚ฌ๋“ค์„ ์œ„ํ•œ
01:03
developing a new food system for astronauts living in deep space --
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์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์Œ์‹ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์„ ๋ฐœ์ „์‹œํ‚ค๋Š” ์—ฐ๊ตฌ๋Š” ์ œ์™ธํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:07
we also did all kinds of other research.
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๋˜ํ•œ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์กฐ์‚ฌ๋„ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:09
We did extra-vehicular activities, as you can see here,
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋“ค์ด ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋“ฏ์ด, ์‹ค๋ฌผ ๋ชจํ˜•์˜ ์šฐ์ฃผ๋ณต์„ ์ž…๊ณ 
01:12
wearing mock-up space suits,
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์šฐ์ฃผ ์œ ์˜์„ ํ•˜๊ธฐ๋„ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:14
but we also had our chores and lots of other stuff to do,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์žก๋‹คํ•œ ์—…๋ฌด์™€ ๊ทธ ์™ธ์— ํ•ด์•ผํ•  ์ผ๋“ค๋„ ๋งŽ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:17
like questionnaires at the end of every day.
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๋งค์ผ ์ €๋…์— ํ•˜๋Š” ์งˆ๋ฌธ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด์ฃ .
01:19
Busy, busy work.
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์ •๋ง ๋ฐ”์˜๊ฒŒ ์ง€๋ƒˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:21
Now, as you can imagine,
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•˜์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ,
01:23
it's quite challenging to live with just a small group of people
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์†Œ์ˆ˜์˜ ์ธ์›๊ณผ ์ž‘์€ ๊ณต๊ฐ„์—์„œ ์˜ค๋žœ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ„ ์‚ด์•„๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ฑด
01:26
in a small space for a long time.
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๊ฝค๋‚˜ ์–ด๋ ค์šด ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:28
There's all kinds of psychological challenges:
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์ •์‹ ์  ์–ด๋ ค์›€์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์ฃ .
01:31
how to keep a team together in these circumstances;
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์ด ์ƒํ™ฉ์—์„œ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ํŒ€์„ ์œ ์ง€ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”๊ฐ€;
01:35
how to deal with the warping of time you start to sense
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์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ƒํ™ฉ์—์„œ ์ƒํ™œํ•˜๋‹ค๋ณด๋ฉด ์‹œ๊ฐ„์™œ๊ณก์ด ๋Š๊ปด์ง€๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ
01:37
when you're living in these circumstances;
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๊ฒฌ๋ŽŒ๋‚ผ ๊ฒƒ์ธ๊ฐ€;
01:40
sleep problems that arise; etc.
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์ˆ˜๋ฉด๋“ฑ ๊ธฐํƒ€ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋„ ๋ฐœ์ƒํ–ˆ์ง€๋งŒ
01:41
But also we learned a lot.
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๋™์‹œ์— ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๊ฐ€์ง€๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์› ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:44
I learned a lot about how individual crew members
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์ €๋Š” ํŒ€์› ๊ฐœ๊ฐœ์ธ์ด ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋Š” ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ
01:46
actually cope with a situation like this;
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์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ƒํ™ฉ์— ๋Œ€์ฒ˜ํ•˜๋Š” ์ง€;
01:49
how you can keep a crew productive and happy,
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์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ํŒ€์›๋“ค์„ ์ƒ์‚ฐ์ ์ด๊ณ  ํ–‰๋ณตํ•œ ์ƒํƒœ๋กœ ์œ ์ง€ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€,
01:52
for example, giving them a good deal of autonomy
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์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด, ๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์–‘์งˆ์˜ ์ž์น˜๊ถŒ์„ ์ฃผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€
01:55
is a good trick to do that;
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ํ•˜๋‚˜์˜ ์ข‹์€ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค;
01:57
and honestly, I learned a lot about leadership,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์†”์งํžˆ, ์ €๋Š” ๋ฆฌ๋”์‹ญ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งŽ์ด ๋ฐฐ์šธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:00
because I was a crew commander.
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์ €๋Š” ์„ ์žฅ์ด์—ˆ์œผ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”.
02:01
So doing this mission,
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์ด ๋ฏธ์…˜์„ ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ,
02:03
I really started thinking more deeply about our future in outer space.
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์ €๋Š” ์šฐ์ฃผ ๊ณต๊ฐ„์˜ ๋ฏธ๋ž˜์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ •๋ง ๋” ๊นŠ๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:08
We will venture into outer space, and we will start inhabiting outer space.
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์ธ๋ฅ˜๋Š” ์šฐ์ฃผ ๊ณต๊ฐ„์„ ํƒํ—˜ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ , ๊ทธ๊ณณ์— ๊ฑฐ์ฃผํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:12
I have no doubt about it.
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์˜์‹ฌํ•  ์—ฌ์ง€๊ฐ€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:14
It might take 50 years or it might take 500 years,
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50๋…„์ด ๊ฑธ๋ฆด ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ , 500๋…„์ด ๊ฑธ๋ฆด ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:17
but it's going to happen nevertheless.
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์˜ค๋žœ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ๊ฑธ๋ฆฐ๋‹ค ํ•˜๋”๋ผ๋„ ๊ฒฐ๊ตญ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋˜๊ฒ ์ฃ .
02:20
So I came up with a new art project called Seeker.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์˜ˆ์ˆ  ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋žจ Seeker๋ฅผ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด ๋ƒˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:24
And the Seeker project is actually challenging communities all over the world
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Seeker ํ”„๋กœ์ ํŠธ๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„์— ๊ฑธ์นœ ๋„์ „์ ์ธ ๊ณต๋™์ฒด์ด์ฃ .
02:28
to come up with starship prototypes
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์ธ๊ฐ„์˜ ํ„ฐ์ „๊ณผ ์ƒ์กด์„ ๋‹ค์‹œ ์ƒ์ƒํ•˜์—ฌ
02:31
that re-envision human habitation and survival.
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์šฐ์ฃผ์„  ํ‘œ๋ณธ์„ ์ œ์•ˆํ•  ๊ณต๋™์ฒด ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:34
That's the core of the project.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ํ”„๋กœ์ ํŠธ์˜ ํ•ต์‹ฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:36
Now, one important thing:
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ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ์ ์€,
02:38
This is not a dystopian project.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๋””์Šคํ† ํ”ผ์•„ ํ”„๋กœ์ ํŠธ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:41
This is not about, "Oh my God, the world is going wrong
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"์„ธ์ƒ์—, ์„ธ์ƒ์€ ์ž˜๋ชป ๋˜์–ด๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด, ๋„๋ง์ณ์•ผ ํ•ด,
02:43
and we have to escape because we need another future somewhere else."
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์–ด๋”˜๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ฏธ๋ž˜๋ฅผ ์ฐพ์•„์•ผ ํ•ด."
02:47
No, no.
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์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒŒ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:49
The project is basically inviting people
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๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ด ํ”„๋กœ์ ํŠธ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด
02:51
to take a step away from earthbound constraints
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์ง€๊ตฌ๋ผ๋Š” ํ•œ๊ณ„์—์„œ ํ•œ ๊ฑธ์Œ ๋” ๋‚˜์•„๊ฐ€์„œ
02:54
and, as such, reimagine our future.
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๋ฏธ๋ž˜๋ฅผ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๊ทธ๋ ค๋ณด๋„๋ก ์œ ๋„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:57
And it's really helpful, and it works really well,
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์ด๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ์œ ์šฉํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์•„์ฃผ ์ž˜ ์ง„ํ–‰๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:00
so that's really the important part of what we're doing.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ์˜ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:04
Now, in this project, I'm using a cocreation approach,
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์ด ํ”„๋กœ์ ํŠธ์—์„œ, ์ €๋Š” ๊ณต๋™์ฐฝ์กฐ์  ์ ‘๊ทผ์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:08
which is a slightly different approach
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๋งŽ์€ ์˜ˆ์ˆ ๊ฐ€๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์˜ˆ์ƒ๋˜๋Š” ์ ‘๊ทผ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•๊ณผ
03:11
from what you would expect from many artists.
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์‚ด์ง ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ ‘๊ทผ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:13
I'm essentially dropping a basic idea into a group, into a community,
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์ €๋Š” ๊ทผ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์ธ ์•„์ด๋””์–ด๋ฅผ ๊ทธ๋ฃน์ด๋‚˜ ๊ณต๋™์ฒด ๋‚ด์— ์ œ๊ณตํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:17
people start gravitating to the idea,
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ ์•„์ด๋””์–ด์— ๋Œ๋ฆฌ๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ณ 
03:20
and together, we shape and build the artwork.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์˜ˆ์ˆ ์ž‘ํ’ˆ์„ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํ˜•์„ฑํ•˜๊ณ  ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด ๋‚˜๊ฐ‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:23
It's a little bit like termites, really.
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์ž‘์€ ํฐ๊ฐœ๋ฏธ๋“ค ๊ฐ™์•„์š”, ์ •๋ง๋กœ์š”.
03:26
We just work together,
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์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ์ € ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ผํ•  ๋ฟ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:27
and even, for example, when architects visit what we're doing,
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์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด ๊ฑด์ถ•๊ฐ€๋“ค์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ์„ ๋ณด๋Ÿฌ ์˜ค๋ฉด,
03:30
sometimes they have a bit of a hard time understanding
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๊ฐ€๋”์”ฉ, ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๊ธฐ ์–ด๋ ค์›Œํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:32
how we build without a master plan.
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์ข…ํ•ฉ์ ์ธ ๊ณ„ํš ์—†์ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๊ฑด์„คํ•˜๋Š”์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ ๋ง์ด์ฃ .
03:34
We always come up with these fantastic large-scale scupltures
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ‹์ง€๊ณ  ์ปค๋‹ค๋ž€ ์กฐํ˜•๋ฌผ์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด ๋ƒ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:37
that actually we can also inhabit.
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์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ฑฐ์ฃผ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•œ ๊ณต๊ฐ„์ด์ฃ .
03:41
The first version was done in Belgium and Holland.
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์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ๋ฒ„์ „์€ ๋ฒจ๊ธฐ์—์™€ ๋„ค๋œ๋ž€๋“œ์— ์™„์„ฑ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:45
It was built with a team of almost 50 people.
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๊ฑฐ์˜ 50๋ช… ๊ฐ€๊นŒ์ด ๋˜๋Š” ํŒ€์›๋“ค์ด ํŒ€์ด ๋˜์–ด ์™„์„ฑ์‹œ์ผฐ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:47
This is the second iteration of that same project,
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ฐ™์€ ํ”„๋กœ์ ํŠธ์˜ ๋‘๋ฒˆ์งธ ๋ฒ„์ „์œผ๋กœ
03:50
but in Slovenia, in a different country,
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋‚˜๋ผ์ธ ์Šฌ๋กœ๋ฒ ๋‹ˆ์•„์— ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:52
and the new group was like, we're going to do the architecture differently.
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์ƒˆ ๊ทธ๋ฃน์€ ๊ฑด์ถ•๋ฌผ์„ ๋‹ค๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:56
So they took away the architecture, they kept the base of the artwork,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๊ฑด์ถ•์€ ๋ฉ€๋ฆฌํ•˜๊ณ , ์˜ˆ์ˆ ์˜ ๊ธฐ์ดˆ์— ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•˜์—ฌ
04:00
and they built an entirely new,
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์™„์ „ํžˆ ์ƒˆ๋กœ๊ฒŒ ๊ฑด์ถ•ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:02
much more biomorphic architecture on top of that.
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์ƒ๋ฌผ ํ˜•ํƒœ์™€ ๋” ๊ฐ€๊นŒ์šด ๊ฑด์ถ•๋ฌผ์ด์—ˆ์ฃ .
04:05
And that's another crucial part of the project.
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์ด๋Š” ํ”„๋กœ์ ํŠธ์˜ ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํ•ต์‹ฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:07
It's an evolving artwork, evolving architecture.
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์ง„ํ™”๋œ ์˜ˆ์ˆ  ์ž‘ํ’ˆ, ์ง„ํ™”๋œ ๊ฑด์ถ•์ด์—ˆ์ฃ .
04:11
This was the last version that was just presented a few weeks ago in Holland,
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ช‡ ์ฃผ ์ „ ๋„ค๋œ๋ž€๋“œ์—์„œ ๋ฐœํ‘œ๋œ ์ตœ๊ทผ ๋ฒ„์ „์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:15
which was using caravans as modules to build a starship.
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์บ๋Ÿฌ๋ฐด์„ ์šฐ์ฃผ์„ ์„ ์ง“๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•œ ๋ชจ๋“ˆ๋กœ์จ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:19
We bought some second-hand caravans,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ œ์ž‘๋˜์–ด์žˆ๋Š” ์บ๋Ÿฌ๋ฐด๋“ค์„ ์‚ฌ์„œ
04:21
cut them open,
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์ž˜๋ผ์„œ ์—ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:22
and reassembled them into a starship.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ์ฃผ์„  ๋‚ด๋ถ€๋ฅผ ์žฌ์กฐ๋ฆฝํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:25
Now, when we're thinking about starships,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์šฐ์ฃผ์„ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•  ๋•Œ,
04:28
we're not just approaching it as a technological challenge.
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๋‹จ์ง€ ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์ ์ธ ๋„์ „์œผ๋กœ์จ ์ ‘๊ทผํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:31
We're really looking at it as a combination of three systems:
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์„ธ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์˜ ์กฐํ•ฉ์„ ์‹œํ—˜ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:34
ecology, people and technology.
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์ƒํƒœํ•™, ์‚ฌ๋žŒ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:36
So there's always a strong ecological component in the project.
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์–ธ์ œ๋‚˜ ์ด ํ”„๋กœ์ ํŠธ ๋‚ด์—๋Š” ๊ฐ•ํ•œ ์ƒํƒœํ•™์  ์กฐํ•ฉ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
์•„์ฟ ์•„ํฌ๋‹‰(acuaponic) ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์„ ๋ณด์„ธ์š”.
04:40
Here you can see aquaponic systems
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04:42
that are actually surrounding the astronauts,
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์šฐ์ฃผ ๋น„ํ–‰์‚ฌ๋“ค์„ ์™„์ „ํžˆ ๋‘˜๋Ÿฌ์‹ธ๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ 
04:44
so they're constantly in contact with part of the food that they're eating.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋จน๋Š” ์Œ์‹๋ฌผ์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€์™€ ์ง€์†์ ์œผ๋กœ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:50
Now, a very typical thing for this project
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์ด ํ”„๋กœ์ ํŠธ์˜ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ „ํ˜•์ ์ธ ๊ฒƒ์€
04:53
is that we run our own isolation missions inside these art and design projects.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์˜ˆ์ˆ ์ด๋‚˜ ๋””์ž์ธ ํ”„๋กœ์ ํŠธ ์†์—์„œ ๊ณ ๋ฆฝ๋œ ๋ฏธ์…˜๋“ค์„ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:00
We actually lock ourselves up for multiple days on end,
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์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋ฉฐ์น ๊ฐ„ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ž์‹ ์„ ๊ฐ€๋‘๊ณ 
05:03
and test what we build.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ฑด์„คํ•  ๊ฒƒ์„ ์‹œํ—˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:05
And this is, for example,
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*์‚ญ์ œ
05:06
on the right hand side you can see an isolation mission
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์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค๋ฉด, ์ด ์‚ฌ์ง„์—์„œ ์˜ค๋ฅธ์ชฝ์— ๋ณด์ด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ณ ๋ฆฝ ๋ฏธ์…˜์œผ๋กœ,
05:09
in the Museum of Modern Art in Ljubljana in Slovenia,
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์Šฌ๋กœ๋ฒ ๋‹ˆ์•„ ๋ฅ˜๋ธ”๋žด๋‚˜(์Šฌ๋กœ๋ฒ ๋‹ˆ์•„ ์ˆ˜๋„)์˜ ํ˜„๋Œ€๋ฏธ์ˆ  ๋ฐ•๋ฌผ๊ด€ ์•ˆ์— ์žˆ๋Š”
05:12
where six artists and designers locked themselves up --
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6๋ช…์˜ ์˜ˆ์ˆ ๊ฐ€๋“ค๊ณผ ๋””์ž์ด๋„ˆ๋“ค์ด ์ž์‹ ๋“ค์„ ๊ฐ€๋‘” ๊ณต๊ฐ„์ด์ฃ .
05:15
I was part of that --
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์ €๋„ ๊ทธ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:16
for four days inside the museum.
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4์ผ๋™์•ˆ ๋ฏธ์ˆ ๊ด€ ์•ˆ์—์„œ ์ƒํ™œํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:19
And, of course, obviously, this is a very performative
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๋‹น์—ฐํ•˜๊ฒŒ๋„, ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งค์šฐ ์ˆ˜ํ–‰์ ์ด๊ณ 
05:21
and very strong experience for all of us.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ชจ๋‘์—๊ฒŒ ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:26
Now, the next version of the project is currently being developed
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์ด ํ”„๋กœ์ ํŠธ์˜ ๋‹ค์Œ ๋ฒ„์ „์€ ์ง€๊ธˆ๋„ ๋ฐœ์ „์ค‘์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:30
together with Camilo Rodriguez-Beltran, who is also a TED Fellow,
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TED ์ง์›์ด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•œ ์นด๋ฏธ๋กœ ๋กœ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€์ฆˆ-๋ฒจํŠธ๋ž€๊ณผ
05:34
in the Atacama Desert in Chile, a magical place.
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๋งˆ๋ฒ•๊ฐ™์€ ๊ณต๊ฐ„์ธ, ์น ๋ ˆ์˜ ์•„ํƒ€์นด๋งˆ ์‚ฌ๋ง‰์—์„œ ๋ง์ด์ฃ .
05:38
First of all, it's really considered a Mars analogue.
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์ด ๊ณณ์€ ํ™”์„ฑ์˜ ์œ ์‚ฌ์ฒด๋ผ๊ณ  ์—ฌ๊ฒจ์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:41
It really does look like Mars in certain locations
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ํŠน์ • ์ง€์—ญ์€ ํ™”์„ฑ์˜ ๊ณต๊ฐ„๊ณผ ๋‹ฎ์•„์žˆ์ฃ .
05:44
and has been used by NASA to test equipment.
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์ด๊ณณ์€ NASA์˜ ์žฅ๋น„ ์‹คํ—˜ ์žฅ์†Œ๋กœ ์‚ฌ์šฉ๋˜๊ณค ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:48
And it has a long history of being connected to space
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์šฐ์ฃผ์™€ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๋˜๋Š” ์˜ค๋žœ ์—ญ์‚ฌ๋„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ์š”,
05:51
through observations of the stars.
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๋ณ„์˜ ๊ด€์ธก๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จ๋œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:53
It's now home to ALMA,
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๊ทธ ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๋ฐœ์ „ํ•ด์˜จ ํฐ ๋ง์›๊ฒฝ์ธ
05:55
the large telescope that's being developed there.
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ALMA์˜ ์ง‘์ด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:59
But also, it's the driest location on the planet,
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๋˜ํ•œ ์ง€๊ตฌ์—์„œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๊ฑด์กฐํ•œ ์ง€์—ญ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:03
and that makes it extremely interesting to build our project,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ํ”„๋กœ์ ํŠธ์— ์žˆ์–ด ์—„์ฒญ๋‚œ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋ฅผ ์ž์•„๋ƒ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:06
because suddenly, sustainability is something we have to explore fully.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์™„์ „ํžˆ ์•Œ์•„๋‚ด์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์ง€์†๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:11
We have no other option,
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์„ ํƒ์ง€๋Š” ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:13
so I'm very curious to see what's going to happen.
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์–ด๋–ค ์ผ์ด ๋ฐœ์ƒํ•˜๋Š”์ง€ ์ง€์ผœ๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์› ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:16
Now, a specific thing for this particular version of the project
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์ž, ์ด ํ”„๋กœ์ ํŠธ์˜ ํŠน์ •ํ•œ ๋ฒ„์ „์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์ธ ์ผ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š”
06:20
is that I'm very interested to see
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กญ๊ฒŒ ๊ด€์ฐฐํ•˜๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ์ด์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ,
06:22
how we can connect with the local population,
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์ง€์—ญ ์‚ฌํšŒ, ์ฆ‰ ์›์ฃผ๋ฏผ ์‚ฌํšŒ์™€ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋ƒ๋Š” ๋ฌธ์ œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:24
the native population.
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06:25
These people have been living there for a very long time
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์ด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๋งค์šฐ ์˜ค๋žœ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ„๋™์•ˆ ์ด๊ณณ์—์„œ ์ƒ์กดํ•ด์™”๊ณ 
06:28
and can be considered experts in sustainability,
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์ง€์†๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ž˜ ์•Œ ๊ฑฐ๋ผ๊ณ  ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:31
and so I'm very interested to see what we can learn from them,
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์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ๋ฐฐ์šธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ์•Œ์•„๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ
06:34
and have an input of indigenous knowledge into space exploration.
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๊ณ ์œ ์˜ ์ง€์‹๋“ค์„ ์šฐ์ฃผ ํƒํ—˜์— ํ™œ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ์ ์ด ๋งค์šฐ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์› ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:38
So we're trying to redefine how we look at our future in outer space
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์šฐ์ฃผ ๊ณต๊ฐ„์˜ ๋ฏธ๋ž˜๋ฅผ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋ณด๋Š”์ง€ ์žฌ์ •์˜ํ•˜๋ ค ์• ์ผ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:43
by exploring integration, biology, technology and people;
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์ƒ๋ฌผํ•™, ๊ธฐ์ˆ , ์ธ๊ฐ„์˜ ํ†ตํ•ฉ์„ ์—ฐ๊ตฌํ•˜๊ณ 
06:48
by using a cocreation approach;
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๊ณต๋™ ์ฐฝ์กฐ์˜ ์ ‘๊ทผ๋ฒ•์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๊ณ ,
06:50
and by using and exploring local traditions
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์ง€์—ญ ์ „ํ†ต์„ ์กฐ์‚ฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ†ตํ•ด์„œ ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๊ณผ๊ฑฐ๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋จผ ๋ฏธ๋ž˜์— ์ ์šฉ์‹œํ‚ฌ์ง€ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ์š”.
06:54
and to see how we can learn from the past and integrate that into our deep future.
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06:58
Thank you.
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๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:00
(Applause)
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์ด ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ ์ •๋ณด

์ด ์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ๋Š” ์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์— ์œ ์šฉํ•œ YouTube ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ์†Œ๊ฐœํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ ๋™์˜์ƒ ํŽ˜์ด์ง€์— ํ‘œ์‹œ๋˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ” ํด๋ฆญํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๋™์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋น„๋””์˜ค ์žฌ์ƒ์— ๋งž์ถฐ ์ž๋ง‰์ด ์Šคํฌ๋กค๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜๊ฒฌ์ด๋‚˜ ์š”์ฒญ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์ด ๋ฌธ์˜ ์–‘์‹์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ๋ฌธ์˜ํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.

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