I grew up in the Westboro Baptist Church. Here's why I left | Megan Phelps-Roper

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2017-03-06 ・ TED


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I grew up in the Westboro Baptist Church. Here's why I left | Megan Phelps-Roper

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Prevoditelj: Irma Komljenović Recezent: Tilen Pigac - EFZG
00:12
I was a blue-eyed, chubby-cheeked five-year-old
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Bila sam plavooka petogodišnjakinja bucmastih obraza
00:15
when I joined my family on the picket line for the first time.
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kad sam se pridružila svojoj obitelji pred ogradama.
00:19
My mom made me leave my dolls in the minivan.
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Mama me natjerala da lutke ostavim u kombiju.
00:22
I'd stand on a street corner in the heavy Kansas humidity,
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Stajala sam na uglu ulice na teškoj vlazi Kansasa
00:25
surrounded by a few dozen relatives,
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okružena desecima rođaka,
00:28
with my tiny fists clutching a sign that I couldn't read yet:
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a moje su ručice držale znak s natpisom kojeg još nisam znala pročitati:
00:32
"Gays are worthy of death."
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"Gejevi zaslužuju smrt."
00:34
This was the beginning.
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To je bio početak.
00:36
Our protests soon became a daily occurrence
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Naši su prosvjedi postali dnevna pojava
00:39
and an international phenomenon,
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i međunarodni fenomen,
00:41
and as a member of Westboro Baptist Church,
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a kao članica Westborovske baptističke crkve,
00:43
I became a fixture on picket lines across the country.
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postala sam stalni gost ograda po cijeloj zemlji.
00:46
The end of my antigay picketing career
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Kraj moje karijere prosvjednika
00:49
and life as I knew it,
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i života kakvog sam poznavala
00:50
came 20 years later,
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došao je 20 godina kasnije,
00:52
triggered in part by strangers on Twitter
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djelomično uzrokovan strancima na Twitteru
00:54
who showed me the power of engaging the other.
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koji su mi pokazali moć angažiranja drugih.
00:59
In my home,
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U mom domu
01:00
life was framed as an epic spiritual battle between good and evil.
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život je bio prikazivan kao epska duhovna borba dobra i zla.
01:04
The good was my church and its members,
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Dobro su predstavljali moja crkva i njeni članovi,
01:06
and the evil was everyone else.
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a zlo svi ostali.
01:09
My church's antics were such
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Zbog budalaština moje crkve
01:11
that we were constantly at odds with the world,
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konstantno smo bili u borbi sa svijetom,
01:13
and that reinforced our otherness on a daily basis.
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a to bi svakodnevno pojačavalo našu različitost.
01:17
"Make a difference between the unclean and the clean,"
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"Razlikuj nečisto od čistog,"
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the verse says,
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stih kaže,
01:21
and so we did.
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pa i jesmo.
01:22
From baseball games to military funerals,
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Od utakmica bejzbola do vojnih sprovoda,
01:24
we trekked across the country with neon protest signs in hand
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putovali smo zemljom s neonskim prosvjednim plakatima u rukama
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to tell others exactly how "unclean" they were
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kako bi drugima rekli koliku su zapravo "nečisti"
01:31
and exactly why they were headed for damnation.
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i zašto ih čeka prokletstvo.
01:35
This was the focus of our whole lives.
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To je bilo središte naših života.
01:38
This was the only way for me to do good in a world that sits in Satan's lap.
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To je bio jedini način da činim dobro u svijetu koji sjedi na krilu vraga.
01:43
And like the rest of my 10 siblings,
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I poput mojih ostalih 10 braće i sestara,
01:45
I believed what I was taught with all my heart,
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vjerovala sam u što su me učili cijelim srcem,
01:47
and I pursued Westboro's agenda with a special sort of zeal.
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i izvršavala sam namjere Westbora s posebnim žarom.
01:51
In 2009, that zeal brought me to Twitter.
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U 2009., taj me žar doveo na Twitter.
01:55
Initially, the people I encountered on the platform
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Na početku su ljudi na koje sam tamo naišla
01:57
were just as hostile as I expected.
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bili neljubazni, baš kao što sam očekivala.
02:00
They were the digital version of the screaming hordes
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Bili su digitalna verzija vrištećih horda ljudi
02:02
I'd been seeing at protests since I was a kid.
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koje sam gledala na prosvjedima još odmalena.
02:05
But in the midst of that digital brawl,
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No usred sve te digitalne svađe
02:07
a strange pattern developed.
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razvio se čudan uzorak.
02:10
Someone would arrive at my profile with the usual rage and scorn,
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Netko bi stigao na moj profil s uobičajenim bijesom i prezirom,
02:14
I would respond with a custom mix of Bible verses, pop culture references
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odgovorila bih sa svojom mješavinom biblijskih stihova, referenci na pop kulturu
02:18
and smiley faces.
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i smajlića.
02:21
They would be understandably confused and caught off guard,
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Tako bih ih, razumljivo, zbunila,
02:25
but then a conversation would ensue.
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no onda bi slijedio razgovor.
02:27
And it was civil --
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Bio je civilan --
02:29
full of genuine curiosity on both sides.
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pun istinske znatiželje na obje strane.
02:32
How had the other come to such outrageous conclusions about the world?
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Kako je onaj drugi došao do tako nečuvenih zaključaka o svijetu?
02:36
Sometimes the conversation even bled into real life.
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Nekad bi se razgovor prebacio i u stvarni svijet.
02:39
People I'd sparred with on Twitter
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Ljudi s kojima sam boksala na Twitteru
02:41
would come out to the picket line to see me
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došli bi me vidjeti kraj ograde
kad sam prosvjedovala u njihovom gradu.
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when I protested in their city.
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02:46
A man named David was one such person.
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David je bio takva osoba.
02:49
He ran a blog called "Jewlicious,"
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Upravljao je blogom koji se zvao "Jewlicious"
02:52
and after several months of heated but friendly arguments online,
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i nakon nekoliko mjeseci strastvenih, no prijateljskih online rasprava
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he came out to see me at a picket in New Orleans.
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došao me upoznati kraj ograde u New Orleansu.
02:58
He brought me a Middle Eastern dessert from Jerusalem, where he lives,
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Donio mi je srednjoistočni desert iz Jeruzalema, gdje živi,
03:02
and I brought him kosher chocolate
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a ja sam njemu donijela košer čokoladu
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and held a "God hates Jews" sign.
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i držala znak na kojem piše "Bog mrzi Židove."
03:06
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
03:08
There was no confusion about our positions,
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Nije bilo zabune o našim stajalištima,
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but the line between friend and foe was becoming blurred.
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no granica između prijatelja i neprijatelja postala je jako nejasna.
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We'd started to see each other as human beings,
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Vidjeli smo jedno drugoga kao ljude,
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and it changed the way we spoke to one another.
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a to je promijenilo način na koji smo razgovarali.
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It took time,
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Trebalo je vremena,
no ti su razgovori konačno u mene usadili sjeme sumnje.
03:21
but eventually these conversations planted seeds of doubt in me.
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03:24
My friends on Twitter took the time to understand Westboro's doctrines,
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Moji prijatelji na Twitteru pokušali su shvatiti Westborovsku doktrinu
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and in doing so,
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i radeći to
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they were able to find inconsistencies I'd missed my entire life.
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uspjeli su naći proturječja koja dotad nisam uočila.
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Why did we advocate the death penalty for gays
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Zašto smo podržavali smrtnu kaznu za gejeve
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when Jesus said, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone?"
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kad je Isus rekao "Tko je od vas bez grijeha, neka baci prvi kamen?"
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How could we claim to love our neighbor
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Kako smo tvrdili da volimo svog susjeda,
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while at the same time praying for God to destroy them?
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dok smo se u isto vrijeme molili da će ga Bog uništiti?
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The truth is that the care shown to me by these strangers on the internet
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Istina je da je briga koju su mi ti neznanci na internetu pokazali
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was itself a contradiction.
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i sama bila proturječje.
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It was growing evidence
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Bila je dokaz
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that people on the other side were not the demons I'd been led to believe.
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da ljudi na drugoj strani nisu demoni kojim sam ih smatrala.
04:00
These realizations were life-altering.
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Shvatiti to promijenilo mi je život.
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Once I saw that we were not the ultimate arbiters of divine truth
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Kad sam shvatila da nismo najviši suci božanske istine,
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but flawed human beings,
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nego ljudi s manama,
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I couldn't pretend otherwise.
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nisam se više mogla pretvarati.
04:10
I couldn't justify our actions --
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Nisam mogla opravdati naša djela --
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especially our cruel practice of protesting funerals
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pogotovo naš okrutni običaj protestiranja na sprovodima
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and celebrating human tragedy.
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i slavljenja ljudske tragedije.
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These shifts in my perspective
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Te promjene moje perspektive
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contributed to a larger erosion of trust in my church,
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dovele su do veće erozije povjerenja u moju crkvu
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and eventually it made it impossible for me to stay.
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i na kraju zbog njih više nisam mogla ostati.
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In spite of overwhelming grief and terror, I left Westboro in 2012.
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Unatoč ogromnoj tuzi i strahu, napustila sam Westboro u 2012.
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In those days just after I left,
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Idućih par dana nakon mojeg odlaska
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the instinct to hide was almost paralyzing.
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instinkt da se sakrijem bio je paralizirajuć.
Željela sam se sakriti od osuđivanja svoje obitelji,
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I wanted to hide from the judgement of my family,
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04:42
who I knew would never speak to me again --
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znala sam da više nikad neće pričati sa mnom --
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people whose thoughts and opinions had meant everything to me.
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ljudi čije su mi misli i mišljenja najviše značila.
04:48
And I wanted to hide from the world I'd rejected for so long --
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I željela sam se sakriti od svijeta kojeg sam tako dugo odbacivala --
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people who had no reason at all to give me a second chance
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ljudi koji nisu imali nijedan razlog da mi daju drugu šansu
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after a lifetime of antagonism.
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nakon cjeloživotnog antagonizma.
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And yet, unbelievably,
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A ipak, nevjerojatno,
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they did.
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jesu.
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The world had access to my past because it was all over the internet --
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Svijet je imao pristup mojoj prošlosti jer je bila posvuda na internetu --
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thousands of tweets and hundreds of interviews,
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tisuće tweetova i stotine intervjua,
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everything from local TV news to "The Howard Stern Show" --
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sve od lokalnih vijesti do "The Howard Stern Show-a" --
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but so many embraced me with open arms anyway.
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no toliko me ljudi svejedno primilo otvorenih ruku.
05:13
I wrote an apology for the harm I'd caused,
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Napisala sam ispriku za svo zlo koje sam načinila,
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but I also knew that an apology could never undo any of it.
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no znala sam da isprika to nikada neće moći poništiti.
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All I could do was try to build a new life
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Mogla sam samo probati izgraditi nov život
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and find a way somehow to repair some of the damage.
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i naći način da popravim dio štete.
05:26
People had every reason to doubt my sincerity,
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Ljudi su imali stotinu razloga sumnjati u iskrenost,
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but most of them didn't.
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no većina njih nije.
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And --
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Te --
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given my history,
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uzevši u obzir moju povijest,
05:33
it was more than I could've hoped for --
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nisam se ni mogla nadati nečem većem --
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forgiveness and the benefit of the doubt.
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opraštanje i ne donošenje preuranjenih zaključaka.
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It still amazes me.
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Još uvijek me zadivljuje.
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I spent my first year away from home
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Prvu godinu izvan kuće provela sam
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adrift with my younger sister,
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bez nekakvog odredišta s mlađom sestrom
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who had chosen to leave with me.
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koja je odlučila otići sa mnom.
05:48
We walked into an abyss,
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Uhodale smo u bezdan,
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but we were shocked to find the light and a way forward
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no iznenadile smo se jer smo našle svjetlo i put naprijed
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in the same communities we'd targeted for so long.
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u istim zajednicama koje su nam tako dugo bile mete.
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David,
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David,
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my "Jewlicious" friend from Twitter,
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moj "Jewlicious" prijatelj s Twittera,
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invited us to spend time among a Jewish community in Los Angeles.
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pozvao nas je da odsjednemo u Židovskoj zajednici u Los Angelesu.
06:04
We slept on couches in the home of a Hasidic rabbi and his wife
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Spavali smo na kaučima u kući hasidskog rabina, njegove žene,
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and their four kids --
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i njihovih četvero djece --
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the same rabbi that I'd protested three years earlier
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rabina protiv kojeg sam prosvjedovala tri godine ranije
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with a sign that said, "Your rabbi is a whore."
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sa znakom "Tvoj rabin je kurva."
06:16
We spent long hours talking about theology and Judaism and life
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Satima smo razgovarali o teologiji, Židovstvu i životu
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while we washed dishes in their kosher kitchen
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dok smo prali suđe u njihovoj košer kuhinji
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and chopped vegetables for dinner.
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i sjeckali povrće za večeru.
06:25
They treated us like family.
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Ponašali su se prema nama kao prema obitelji.
06:27
They held nothing against us,
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Ništa nam nisu zamjerali,
06:29
and again I was astonished.
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i iznova me to zapanjilo.
06:32
That period was full of turmoil,
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To je razdoblje bilo puno nemira,
06:34
but one part I've returned to often
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no često se vraćam
06:36
is a surprising realization I had during that time --
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iznenađujućem saznanju koje sam tada imala --
06:40
that it was a relief and a privilege to let go of the harsh judgments
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bilo je olakšanje i privilegija napustiti okrutne osude
06:44
that instinctively ran through my mind about nearly every person I saw.
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koje su instinktivno prolazile mojim umom o svakoj osobi koju sam vidjela.
06:49
I realized that now I needed to learn.
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Shvatila sam da trebam učiti.
06:52
I needed to listen.
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Trebam slušati.
06:55
This has been at the front of my mind lately,
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U zadnje vrijeme to često imam na umu,
06:57
because I can't help but see in our public discourse
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jer ne mogu ne vidjeti u javnim raspravama
07:00
so many of the same destructive impulses that ruled my former church.
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iste destruktivne impulse koji su vladali mojom crkvom.
07:05
We celebrate tolerance and diversity more than at any other time in memory,
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Slavimo toleranciju i raznolikost više nego ikad,
07:09
and still we grow more and more divided.
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a ipak smo sve više međusobno podijeljeni.
07:12
We want good things --
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Želimo dobre stvari --
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justice, equality, freedom, dignity, prosperity --
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pravdu, jednakost, slobodu, dostojanstvo, prosperitet --
07:17
but the path we've chosen
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no put koji smo izabrali
07:19
looks so much like the one I walked away from four years ago.
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jako je sličan onom koji sam napustila prije četiri godine.
07:23
We've broken the world into us and them,
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Razdvojili smo svijet na nas i njih,
07:26
only emerging from our bunkers long enough
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iz svojih bunkera izlazimo tek
07:28
to lob rhetorical grenades at the other camp.
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da prebacimo retoričke granate na drugi logor.
07:31
We write off half the country as out-of-touch liberal elites
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Otpisujemo pola zemlje kao zastarjele liberalne elite
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or racist misogynist bullies.
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ili rasističke nasilnike, mrzitelje žena.
07:38
No nuance, no complexity, no humanity.
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Bez razlike, bez složenosti, bez ljudskosti.
07:42
Even when someone does call for empathy and understanding for the other side,
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Čak i kad netko zatraži empatiju i razumijevanje za drugu stranu,
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the conversation nearly always devolves
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razgovor je gotovo uvijek doveden
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into a debate about who deserves more empathy.
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do debate o tome tko zaslužuje više empatije.
07:51
And just as I learned to do,
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Baš kao što sam i ja naučila,
07:53
we routinely refuse to acknowledge the flaws in our positions
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rutinski odbijamo priznati mane u našim stajalištima
07:56
or the merits in our opponent's.
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ili vrijednosti u istima naših protivnika.
07:59
Compromise is anathema.
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Kompromis je anatema.
08:01
We even target people on our own side when they dare to question the party line.
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Napadamo i ljude na našoj strani kad se usude sumnjati u stranku.
08:06
This path has brought us cruel, sniping, deepening polarization,
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Ovaj nam je put donio okrutnu, produbljujuću polarizaciju,
08:11
and even outbreaks of violence.
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čak i izljeve nasilja.
08:13
I remember this path.
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Sjećam se tog puta.
08:15
It will not take us where we want to go.
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Neće nas dovesti ondje gdje želimo ići.
08:18
What gives me hope is that we can do something about this.
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Daje mi nadu što možemo nešto napraviti u vezi toga.
08:22
The good news is that it's simple,
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Dobra je vijest da je jednostavno,
08:24
and the bad news is that it's hard.
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a loša je vijest da je teško.
08:27
We have to talk and listen to people we disagree with.
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Moramo pričati i slušati ljude s kojima se ne slažemo.
08:31
It's hard because we often can't fathom
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Teško je jer često ne možemo shvatiti
08:33
how the other side came to their positions.
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kako je druga strana došla do svojih stajališta.
08:36
It's hard because righteous indignation,
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Teško je, jer pravedni gnjev,
08:39
that sense of certainty that ours is the right side,
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osjećaj sigurnosti da je naša prava strana,
08:42
is so seductive.
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zna biti iznimno zavodljiv.
08:44
It's hard because it means extending empathy and compassion
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Teško je jer znači produžiti empatiju i samilost
08:48
to people who show us hostility and contempt.
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na ljude koji nam pokazuju prezir i neljubaznost.
08:51
The impulse to respond in kind is so tempting,
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Impuls da im uzvratimo primamljiv je,
08:55
but that isn't who we want to be.
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ali ne želimo biti takvi.
08:57
We can resist.
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Možemo se oduprijeti.
08:58
And I will always be inspired to do so by those people I encountered on Twitter,
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Uvijek ću biti nadahnuta za odupiranje, zbog ljudi na koje sam naišla na Twitteru,
09:03
apparent enemies who became my beloved friends.
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očitih neprijatelja koji su postali moji dragi prijatelji.
09:07
And in the case of one particularly understanding and generous guy,
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Isti je slučaj s jednim osobito suosjećajnim i darežljivim dečkom,
09:10
my husband.
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mojim mužem.
09:12
There was nothing special about the way I responded to him.
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Ništa nije bilo posebno u odgovoru koji sam mu napisala.
09:16
What was special was their approach.
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Poseban je bio njihov pristup.
09:19
I thought about it a lot over the past few years
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Puno sam o tome razmišljala zadnjih par godina
09:22
and I found four things they did differently
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i našla sam četiri stvari koje su drukčije napravili
09:25
that made real conversation possible.
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zbog kojih je pravi razgovor postao moguć.
09:28
These four steps were small but powerful,
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Ta četiri koraka mala su, ali moćna,
09:31
and I do everything I can to employ them in difficult conversations today.
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i radim sve što mogu kako bih ih upotrijebila u teškim razgovorima.
09:36
The first is don't assume bad intent.
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Prvi je ne pretpostavljati lošu namjeru.
09:40
My friends on Twitter realized
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Moji prijatelji na Twitteru shvatili su
09:41
that even when my words were aggressive and offensive,
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da, čak i ako su moje riječi bile agresivne i uvredljive,
09:44
I sincerely believed I was doing the right thing.
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iskreno sam vjerovala da radim pravu stvar.
09:47
Assuming ill motives almost instantly cuts us off
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Pretpostaviti zao motiv odmah nam ne dopušta
09:50
from truly understanding why someone does and believes as they do.
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da stvarno shvatimo zašto osoba radi i vjeruje u nešto.
09:54
We forget that they're a human being
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Zaboravimo da je to čovjek
09:56
with a lifetime of experience that shaped their mind,
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sa životnim iskustvima koja su oblikovala njegov um,
09:59
and we get stuck on that first wave of anger,
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a mi zaglavimo na prvom valu ljutnje,
10:02
and the conversation has a very hard time ever moving beyond it.
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tako da razgovor ima male šanse za nastavak.
10:06
But when we assume good or neutral intent,
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No kad pretpostavimo dobru ili neutralnu namjeru,
10:09
we give our minds a much stronger framework for dialogue.
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svojim umovima dajemo puno jači okvir za dijalog.
10:13
The second is ask questions.
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Drugi je postavljanje pitanja.
10:17
When we engage people across ideological divides,
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Kad angažiramo ljude duž ideoloških podjela,
10:20
asking questions helps us map the disconnect
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postavljanje pitanja pomaže nam naći
10:22
between our differing points of view.
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gdje se naša stajališta razilaze.
10:25
That's important because we can't present effective arguments
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To je bitno jer ne možemo dati efikasne argumente
10:27
if we don't understand where the other side is actually coming from
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ako ne razumijemo otkud druga strana dolazi
10:32
and because it gives them an opportunity to point out flaws in our positions.
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i jer im daje priliku istaknuti mane u našim stajalištima.
10:36
But asking questions serves another purpose;
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No postavljanje pitanja ima i drugu svrhu;
10:39
it signals to someone that they're being heard.
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pokazuje nekome da ih čujemo.
10:42
When my friends on Twitter stopped accusing
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Kad su moji prijatelji sa Twittera prestali okrivljavati
10:44
and started asking questions,
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i počeli postavljati pitanja,
10:46
I almost automatically mirrored them.
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gotovo sam automatski počela raditi istu stvar.
10:49
Their questions gave me room to speak,
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Zbog njihovih sam pitanja imala gdje pričati,
10:51
but they also gave me permission to ask them questions
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no tako su mi dali dopuštenje da njima postavljam pitanja
10:54
and to truly hear their responses.
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i da stvarno čujem njihove odgovore.
10:57
It fundamentally changed the dynamic of our conversation.
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Istinski je promijenilo dinamiku našeg razgovora.
11:02
The third is stay calm.
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Treći je korak ostati miran.
11:04
This takes practice and patience,
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Za to je potrebna vježba i strpljenje,
11:06
but it's powerful.
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no moćno je.
11:08
At Westboro, I learned not to care how my manner of speaking affected others.
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U Westboru sam naučila ne brinuti o utjecaju mog načina govorenja na druge.
11:12
I thought my rightness justified my rudeness --
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Mislila sam da to što sam u pravu opravdava moju nepristojnost --
11:15
harsh tones, raised voices, insults, interruptions --
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grubi tonovi, povišeni glasovi, uvrede, prekidi --
11:19
but that strategy is ultimately counterproductive.
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ta strategija nije pretjerano produktivna.
11:22
Dialing up the volume and the snark is natural in stressful situations,
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Pojačati glasnoću i sarkazam prirodno je u stresnim situacijama,
11:26
but it tends to bring the conversation to an unsatisfactory, explosive end.
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ali često vodi razgovor prema razočaravajućem, eksplozivnom kraju.
11:32
When my husband was still just an anonymous Twitter acquaintance,
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Dok je moj muž još bio tek anoniman poznanik sa Twittera,
11:35
our discussions frequently became hard and pointed,
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naše su rasprave često postajale teške i prodorne,
11:38
but we always refused to escalate.
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no odbijali smo eskalirati.
11:41
Instead, he would change the subject.
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Umjesto toga, promijenio bi temu.
11:43
He would tell a joke or recommend a book
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Ispričao bi vic ili preporučio knjigu
11:45
or gently excuse himself from the conversation.
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ili se nježno odmaknuo od razgovora.
11:49
We knew the discussion wasn't over,
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Znali smo da rasprava nije gotova,
11:51
just paused for a time to bring us back to an even keel.
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samo smo ju pauzirali kako bi se vratili na istu razinu.
11:55
People often lament that digital communication makes us less civil,
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Ljudi se često žale da nas digitalna komunikacija čini manje civilnima,
11:58
but this is one advantage that online conversations have over in-person ones.
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no ovo je prednost koju online razgovori imaju pred onima vođenima uživo.
12:03
We have a buffer of time and space
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Imamo štit vremena i prostora
12:06
between us and the people whose ideas we find so frustrating.
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između nas i ljudi čije ideje smatramo frustrirajućima.
12:10
We can use that buffer.
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Možemo iskoristiti taj štit.
12:12
Instead of lashing out, we can pause, breathe,
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Umjesto napada, možemo se zaustaviti, disati,
12:15
change the subject or walk away,
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promijeniti temu ili otići,
12:18
and then come back to it when we're ready.
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pa se vratiti kad smo spremni.
12:22
And finally ...
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I napokon ...
12:24
make the argument.
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napravi argument.
12:27
This might seem obvious,
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Možda se čini očito,
12:29
but one side effect of having strong beliefs
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ali nuspojava jakih uvjerenja je
12:31
is that we sometimes assume
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da nekad pretpostavimo
12:33
that the value of our position is or should be obvious and self-evident,
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kako je, vrijednost našeg stajališta očita ili bi trebala biti,
12:38
that we shouldn't have to defend our positions
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da ne trebamo braniti svoja stajališta
12:40
because they're so clearly right and good
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jer su očigledno toliko ispravna i dobra
12:43
that if someone doesn't get it, it's their problem --
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da je to problem onoga koji to ne shvaća --
12:46
that it's not my job to educate them.
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nije moj posao educirati ga.
12:49
But if it were that simple,
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Da je sve tako jednostavno,
12:50
we would all see things the same way.
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vidjeli bismo stvari na isti način.
12:53
As kind as my friends on Twitter were,
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Koliko su god moji prijatelji s Twittera dragi,
12:55
if they hadn't actually made their arguments,
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da na kraju nisu izrekli svoje argumente,
12:58
it would've been so much harder for me to see the world in a different way.
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bilo bi mi puno teže vidjeti svijet na različit način.
13:02
We are all a product of our upbringing,
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Svi smo mi proizvod našeg odgoja,
13:05
and our beliefs reflect our experiences.
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i naše vjere odražavaju naša iskustva.
13:08
We can't expect others to spontaneously change their own minds.
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Ne možemo očekivati od drugih da spontano promijene mišljenje.
13:12
If we want change,
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Želimo li promjenu,
13:13
we have to make the case for it.
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moramo imati i razloge.
13:16
My friends on Twitter didn't abandon their beliefs or their principles --
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Moji prijatelji s Twittera nisu napustili svoja vjerovanja i principe --
13:21
only their scorn.
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samo svoj prezir.
13:23
They channeled their infinitely justifiable offense
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Usmjerili su svoj opravdan napad
13:26
and came to me with pointed questions tempered with kindness and humor.
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i došli k meni s britkim pitanjima ublaženim ljubaznošću i humorom.
13:31
They approached me as a human being,
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Prišli su mi kao ljudskom biću,
13:33
and that was more transformative
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i to je više promijenilo moj život
13:35
than two full decades of outrage, disdain and violence.
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nego cijela dva desetljeća bijesa, prezira i nasilja.
13:40
I know that some might not have the time or the energy or the patience
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Znam da neki možda nemaju vrijeme, energiju ili strpljenje
13:44
for extensive engagement,
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za ovako opsežno sudjelovanje,
13:45
but as difficult as it can be,
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no koliko god teško bilo,
13:47
reaching out to someone we disagree with
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doprijeti do nekoga s kim se ne slažemo
13:50
is an option that is available to all of us.
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opcija je dostupna svima nama.
13:53
And I sincerely believe that we can do hard things,
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Iskreno vjerujem da možemo učiniti teške stvari,
13:56
not just for them but for us and our future.
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ne samo za njih, već i za nas i našu budućnost.
14:00
Escalating disgust and intractable conflict
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Rastuće gađenje i tvrdoglavi sukobi
14:02
are not what we want for ourselves,
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nisu nešto što želimo sebi,
14:04
or our country
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ili svojoj državi
14:06
or our next generation.
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ili idućoj generaciji.
14:09
My mom said something to me a few weeks before I left Westboro,
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Mama mi je rekla nešto par tjedana prije no što sam napustila Westboro,
14:13
when I was desperately hoping
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kad sam se očajnički nadala
14:15
there was a way I could stay with my family.
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kako postoji način da ostanem s obitelji.
14:18
People I have loved with every pulse of my heart
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S ljudima koje sam voljela svakim otkucajem srca
14:21
since even before I was that chubby-cheeked five-year-old,
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još i prije no što sam bila petogodišnjakinja bucmastih obraza,
14:24
standing on a picket line holding a sign I couldn't read.
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koja stoji pokraj ograde i drži znak koji ne može pročitati.
14:27
She said, "You're just a human being,
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Rekla je, "Samo si čovjek,
14:30
my dear, sweet child."
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moje drago, slatko dijete."
14:33
She was asking me to be humble --
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Tražila je od mene da budem skromna --
14:35
not to question but to trust God and my elders.
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ne preispitujem, nego vjerujem u Boga i starije od sebe.
14:39
But to me, she was missing the bigger picture --
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Vjerovala sam da ona ne vidi veću sliku --
14:43
that we're all just human beings.
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i oni su samo ljudi.
14:45
That we should be guided by that most basic fact,
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Trebala bi nas voditi samo ta osnovna činjenica
14:48
and approach one another with generosity and compassion.
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i trebali bismo prilaziti jedni drugima s darežljivošću i suosjećanjem.
14:52
Each one of us contributes to the communities
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Svatko od nas pridonosi zajednicama,
14:54
and the cultures and the societies that we make up.
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kulturama i društvima koje činimo.
14:57
The end of this spiral of rage and blame begins with one person
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Kraj ovog vrtloga bijesa i krivnje počinje s jednom osobom
15:02
who refuses to indulge these destructive, seductive impulses.
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koja odbija prepustiti se tim destruktivnim, zavodljivim impulsima.
15:07
We just have to decide that it's going to start with us.
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Mi samo trebamo odlučiti da će početi s nama.
15:10
Thank you.
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Hvala vam.
(Pljesak)
15:12
(Applause)
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