What the sugar coating on your cells is trying to tell you | Carolyn Bertozzi

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2017-09-10 ・ TED


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What the sugar coating on your cells is trying to tell you | Carolyn Bertozzi

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Prevoditelj: Lucija Jelić Recezent: Sanda L
00:12
This is a talk about sugar and cancer.
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Ovo je govor o šećeru i raku.
00:15
I became interested in sugar when I was in college.
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Počela sam se zanimati za šećer kada sam bila na fakultetu.
00:19
Not this kind of sugar.
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Ne ova vrsta šećera.
00:20
It was the sugar that our biology professors taught us about
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Šećer o kojemu su nas podučavali naši profesori biologije
00:25
in the context of the coating of your cells.
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u kontekstu premazivanja stanica.
00:30
Maybe you didn't know that your cells are coated with sugar.
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Možda niste znali da su vaše stanice premazane šećerom.
00:34
And I didn't know that, either,
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Nisam ni ja, također,
00:36
until I took these courses in college,
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sve dok nisam slušala te kolegije,
00:38
but back then --
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ali tada --
00:39
and this was in, let's just call it the 1980s --
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i to je bilo u, recimo samo 1980-ima --
00:44
people didn't know much about why our cells are coated with sugar.
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ljudi nisu znali mnogo o tome zašto su naše stanice premazane šećerom.
00:48
And when I dug through my notes, what I noticed I had written down
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I kada sam kopala po svojim bilješkama, primijetila sam da sam zapisala
00:52
is that the sugar coating on our cells is like the sugar coating
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da je šećerni premaz na našim stanicama isti kao šećerni premaz
00:57
on a peanut M and M.
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na kikirikiju M&M-a.
00:59
And people thought the sugar coating on our cells
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A ljudi su mislili da je šećerni premaz na našim stanicama
01:02
was like a protective coating
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kao zaštitni premaz
01:04
that somehow made our cells stronger or tougher.
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koji je nekako naše stanice učinio snažnijima ili jačima.
01:08
But we now know, many decades later,
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Ali danas znamo, nakon mnogo desetljeća,
01:10
that it's much more complicated than that,
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da je to mnogo složenije
01:13
and that the sugars on our cells are actually very complex.
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i da su šećeri na našim stanicama u stvari jako složeni.
01:19
And if you could shrink yourself down to a little miniature airplane
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I kada biste se mogli pretvoriti u minijaturni avion,
01:24
and fly right along the surface of your cells,
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i preletjeti iznad površine svojih stanica,
01:28
it might look something like this --
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to bi izgledalo nekako ovako --
01:30
with geographical features.
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s geografskim značajkama.
01:32
And now, the complex sugars are these trees and bushes --
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Složeni šećeri su ovo drveće i grmlje,
01:37
weeping willows that are swaying in the wind
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tužne vrbe koje se njišu na vjetru
01:39
and moving with the waves.
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i ljuljaju s valovima.
01:41
And when I started thinking about all these complex sugars
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I kada sam počela razmišljati o svim tim složenim šećerima
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that are like this foliage on our cells,
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kao o vrsti pokrova na našim stanicama,
01:48
it became one of the most interesting problems that I encountered
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to je postao jedan od najzanimljivijih problema na koji sam naišla
01:51
as a biologist and also as a chemist.
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kao biolog i kao kemičar.
01:55
And so now we tend to think about the sugars
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I sada nastojimo razmišljati o šećerima
01:58
that are populating the surface of our cells
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koji nastanjuju površinu naših stanica,
02:01
as a language.
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kao o jeziku.
02:04
They have a lot of information stored in their complex structures.
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Sadrže mnogo informacija u svojim složenim strukturama.
02:08
But what are they trying to tell us?
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Ali što nam pokušavaju reći?
02:12
I can tell you that we do know some information
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Mogu vam reći da znamo neke informacije
02:15
that comes from these sugars,
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koje dolaze od tih šećera
i ispada da su nevjerojatno važne
02:17
and it's turned out already to be incredibly important
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02:20
in the world of medicine.
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u svijetu medicine.
02:22
For example, one thing your sugars are telling us
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Na primjer, jedna stvar koju nam šećeri govore
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is your blood type.
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je vaša krvna grupa.
02:28
So your blood cells, your red blood cells, are coated with sugars,
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Vaše krvne stanice, crvene krvne stanice, prevučene su šećerom
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and the chemical structures of those sugars determine your blood type.
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i kemijska struktura tih šećera određuje vašu krvnu grupu.
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So for example, I know that I am blood type O.
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Tako na primjer, znam da je moja krvna grupa 0.
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How many people are also blood type O?
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Koliko još ljudi ima krvnu grupu 0?
02:44
Put your hands up.
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Dignite ruke.
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It's a pretty common one,
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Prilično je česta
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so when so few hands go up, either you're not paying attention
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pa kada je ovako malo ruku u zraku, ili ne obraćate pozornost,
02:50
or you don't know your blood type, and both of those are bad.
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ili ne znate vašu krvnu grupu, u oba slučaja to je loše.
(Smijeh)
02:53
(Laughter)
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Ali za vas koji dijelite krvnu grupu 0 sa mnom,
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But for those of you who share the blood type O with me,
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02:56
what this means is that we have this chemical structure
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to znači da imamo ovakvu kemijsku strukturu
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on the surface of our blood cells:
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na površini naših krvnih stanica:
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three simple sugars linked together to make a more complex sugar.
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tri jednostavna šećera povezana u složeniji šećer.
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And that, by definition, is blood type O.
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I to je, po definiciji, krvna grupa 0.
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Now, how many people are blood type A?
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Sada, koliko ljudi ima krvnu grupu A?
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Right here.
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Eto.
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That means you have an enzyme in your cells
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To znači da vi imate enzim u vašim stanicama,
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that adds one more building block,
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koji dodaje još jedan gradivni dio,
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that red sugar,
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taj crveni šećer,
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to build a more complex structure.
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koji čini još složeniju strukturu.
03:22
And how many people are blood type B?
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I koliko ljudi ima krvnu grupu B?
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Quite a few.
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Dobar dio.
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You have a slightly different enzyme than the A people,
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Vi imate nešto drugačiji enzim nego osobe iz A grupe
pa vi imate nešto drugačiju strukturu,
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so you build a slightly different structure,
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a vi koji imate AB grupu
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and those of you that are AB
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03:34
have the enzyme from your mother, the other enzyme from your father,
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imate jedan enzim od svoje majke, drugi enzim od vašeg oca
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and now you make both of these structures in roughly equal proportions.
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i sada imate obje te strukture u približno jednakim omjerima.
03:41
And when this was figured out,
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I kada je to otkriveno,
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which is now back in the previous century,
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sada već u prošlom stoljeću,
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this enabled one of the most important medical procedures in the world,
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to je omogućilo jedan od najvažnijih medicinskih postupaka u svijetu,
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which, of course, is the blood transfusion.
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a to je, naravno, transfuzija krvi.
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And by knowing what your blood type is,
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I poznavajući svoju krvnu grupu,
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we can make sure, if you ever need a transfusion,
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možemo biti uvjereni, da ako ikad budete trebali transfuziju,
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that your donor has the same blood type,
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da i vaš donor ima istu krvnu grupu,
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so that your body doesn't see foreign sugars,
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kako se vaše tijelo ne bi susrelo sa stranim šećerima,
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which it wouldn't like and would certainly reject.
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koji mu se ne bi svidjeli i koje bi sigurno odbacio.
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What else are the sugars on the surface of your cells trying to tell us?
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Što nam još šećeri na površini stanica pokušavaju reći?
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Well, those sugars might be telling us that you have cancer.
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Pa, ti šećeri bi nam mogli reći da imate rak.
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So a few decades ago,
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Tako su se prije nekoliko desetljeća
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correlations began to emerge from the analysis of tumor tissue.
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počele pojavljivati korelacije u analizi kancerogenog tkiva.
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And the typical scenario is a patient would have a tumor detected,
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I tipičan scenarij je da se pacijentu otkrije tumor,
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and the tissue would be removed in a biopsy procedure
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tkivo bude uklonjeno biopsijom
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and then sent down to a pathology lab
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i poslano u laboratorij patologije,
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where that tissue would be analyzed to look for chemical changes
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gdje bi bilo analizirano u potrazi za kemijskim promjenama,
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that might inform the oncologist about the best course of treatment.
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koje bi mogle informirati onkologa o najboljem tijeku liječenja.
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And what was discovered from studies like that
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Ono što je bilo otkriveno u takvim studijama,
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is that the sugars have changed
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je da su se šećeri promijenili
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when the cell transforms from being healthy to being sick.
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kada su se stanice transformirale iz zdravih u bolesne.
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And those correlations have come up again and again and again.
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I te su se korelacije uvijek iznova pojavljivale.
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But a big question in the field has been: Why?
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Ali veliko pitanje bilo je: Zašto?
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Why do cancers have different sugars? What's the importance of that?
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Zašto rak ima drugačije šećere? U čemu je važnost toga?
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Why does it happen, and what can we do about it if it does turn out
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Zašto se to događa i što mi možemo učiniti s tim ako se ispostavi
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to be related to the disease process?
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da su povezani s procesom bolesti?
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So, one of the changes that we study
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Pa, jedna od promjena koje smo proučavali
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is an increase in the density of a particular sugar
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je povećanje gustoće određenog šećera,
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that's called sialic acid.
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koji se zove sijalična kiselina.
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And I think this is going to be one of the most important sugars
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I ja mislim da će to biti jedan od najvažnijih šećera
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of our times,
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našeg vremena,
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so I would encourage everybody to get familiar with this word.
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pa bih ohrabrila sve da zapamte tu riječ.
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Sialic acid is not the kind of sugar that we eat.
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Sijalična kiselina nije onaj šećer koji jedemo.
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Those are different sugars.
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To su drugačiji šećeri.
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This is a kind of sugar that is actually found
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Ovo je vrsta šećera koja je zapravo nađena
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at certain levels on all of the cells in your body.
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u određenim razinama na svim stanicama u vašem tijelu.
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It's actually quite common on your cells.
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Zapravo je jako učestala na vašim stanicama.
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But for some reason,
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Ali iz nekog razloga,
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cancer cells, at least in a successful, progressive disease,
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stanice raka, barem u uspješnoj, progresivnoj bolesti,
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tend to have more sialic acid
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naginju većim razinama sijalične kiseline
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than a normal, healthy cell would have.
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od normalnih, zdravih stanica.
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And why?
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Zašto?
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What does that mean?
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Što to znači?
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Well, what we've learned
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Pa, ono što smo naučili je
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is that it has to do with your immune system.
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da je to povezano s vašim imunološkim sustavom.
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So let me tell you a little bit about the importance of your immune system
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Reći ću vam malo o važnosti vašeg imunološkog sustava
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in cancer.
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tijekom raka.
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And this is something that's, I think, in the news a lot these days.
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I to je nešto što je, čini mi se, često u vijestima ovih dana.
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You know, people are starting to become familiar with the term
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Znate, ljudi se počinju upoznavati s izrazom
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"cancer immune therapy."
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"imunoterapija u liječenju raka."
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And some of you might even know people
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I neki od vas možda i znaju ljude
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who are benefiting from these very new ways of treating cancer.
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koji imaju koristi od tih posve novih načina tretiranja raka.
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What we now know is that your immune cells,
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Ono što znamo sada je da vas vaše imunološke stanice,
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which are the white blood cells coursing through your bloodstream,
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bijele krvne stanice, koje teku vašim krvotokom,
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protect you on a daily basis from things gone bad --
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štite na dnevnoj bazi od toga da sve pođe po krivu,
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including cancer.
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uključujući i rak.
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And so in this picture,
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Na ovoj slici,
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those little green balls are your immune cells,
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ove male zelene kuglice su vaše imunološke stanice,
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and that big pink cell is a cancer cell.
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a ova velika ružičasta stanica je stanica raka.
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And these immune cells go around and taste all the cells in your body.
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Te imunološke stanice idu uokolo i kušaju sve stanice u vašem tijelu.
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That's their job.
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To je njihov posao.
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And most of the time, the cells taste OK.
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I u većini slučajeva, stanice su OK.
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But once in a while, a cell might taste bad.
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Ali ponekad, neka stanica nije u redu.
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Hopefully, that's the cancer cell,
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Nadajmo se da je to stanica raka
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and when those immune cells get the bad taste,
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i kada te imunološke stanice osjete loš okus,
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they launch an all-out strike and kill those cells.
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lansiraju totalan napad i ubiju te stanice.
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So we know that.
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To je ono što znamo.
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We also know that if you can potentiate that tasting,
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Također znamo da ako možete potencirati to kušanje,
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if you can encourage those immune cells to actually take a big old bite
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ako možete ohrabriti te imunološke stanice da uistinu zagrizu
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out of a cancer cell,
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te stanice raka,
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you get a better job protecting yourself from cancer every day
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imate više šanse u zaštiti od raka svaki dan,
07:38
and maybe even curing a cancer.
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a možda čak i u njegovom liječenju.
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And there are now a couple of drugs out there in the market
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Trenutno je na tržištu nekoliko lijekova
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that are used to treat cancer patients
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koji se koriste u liječenju raka,
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that act exactly by this process.
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a koji se ponašaju točno tako.
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They activate the immune system
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Aktiviraju imunološki sustav
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so that the immune system can be more vigorous
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kako bi nas on
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in protecting us from cancer.
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snažnije štitio od raka.
07:55
In fact, one of those drugs
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Zapravo, jedan od tih lijekova
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may well have spared President Jimmy Carter's life.
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možda je malo produžio život predsjedniku Jimmyju Carteru.
08:01
Do you remember, President Carter had malignant melanoma
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Sjećate li se, predsjednik Carter je imao maligni melanom,
08:05
that had metastasized to his brain,
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koji je metastazirao u mozak
08:08
and that diagnosis is one that is usually accompanied by numbers
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i dijagnoza mu je bila jedna od onih obično popraćenih brojkama
08:12
like "months to live."
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kao što su "mjeseci života."
08:14
But he was treated with one of these new immune-stimulating drugs,
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Ali je bio liječen jednim od tih imunostimulatora
08:19
and now his melanoma appears to be in remission,
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i sada je njegov melanom u fazi remisije,
08:22
which is remarkable,
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što je izvanredno,
08:24
considering the situation only a few years ago.
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uzimajući u obzir situaciju od prije samo par godina.
08:27
In fact, it's so remarkable
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Zapravo, to je toliko izvanredno,
08:29
that provocative statements like this one:
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da provokativne izjave poput ove:
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"Cancer is having a penicillin moment," people are saying,
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"Rak doživljava penicilinski trenutak," govore ljudi o tim novim
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with these new immune therapy drugs.
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imunoterapijskim lijekovima.
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I mean, that's an incredibly bold thing to say about a disease
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Mislim, nevjerojatno je odvažno reći tako nešto o bolesti,
08:41
which we've been fighting for a long time
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s kojom se dugo borimo
08:43
and mostly losing the battle with.
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i protiv koje najčešće gubimo bitku.
08:46
So this is very exciting.
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Pa, ovo je jako uzbudljivo.
08:48
Now what does this have to do with sugars?
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Sada, kakve to ima veze s šećerima?
08:51
Well, I'll tell you what we've learned.
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Pa, reći ću vam što smo naučili.
08:54
When an immune cell snuggles up against a cancer cell to take a taste,
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Kada se imunološka stanica priljubi uz stanicu raka kako bi je probala,
09:01
it's looking for signs of disease,
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ona traži znakove bolesti,
09:03
and if it finds those signs,
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i ako pronađe takve znakove,
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the cell gets activated and it launches a missile strike and kills the cell.
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stanica se aktivira i pokreće raketni udar te ubije stanicu.
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But if that cancer cell has a dense forest of that sugar, sialic acid,
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Ali ako ta stanica raka ima gustu šumu tog šećera, sijalične kiseline,
09:17
well, it starts to taste pretty good.
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njen okus počinje biti prilično dobar.
09:21
And there's a protein on immune cells that grabs the sialic acid,
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Postoji protein na imunološkim stanicama koji grabi sijaličnu kiselinu,
09:25
and if that protein gets held at that synapse
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i ako se taj protein zadrži na toj sinapsi
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between the immune cell and the cancer cell,
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između imunološke stanice i stanice raka,
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it puts that immune cell to sleep.
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on uspava imunološku stanicu.
09:35
The sialic acids are telling the immune cell,
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Sijalične kiseline govore imunološkoj stanici,
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"Hey, this cell's all right. Nothing to see here, move along.
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"Hej, ova stanica je u redu. Nemaš što za vidjeti, nastavi dalje.
09:42
Look somewhere else."
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Pogledaj negdje drugdje."
09:44
So in other words,
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Drugim riječima,
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as long as our cells are wearing a thick coat of sialic acid,
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sve dok naše stanice imaju debeli omotač sijalične kiseline,
09:51
they look fabulous, right?
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izgledaju fenomenalno, zar ne?
09:53
It's amazing.
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To je nevjerojatno.
09:56
And what if you could strip off that coat
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A što ako biste mogli skinuti taj omotač
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and take that sugar away?
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i maknuti taj šećer?
10:01
Well, your immune system
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Pa, vaš imunološki sustav
10:04
might be able to see that cancer cell for what it really is:
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bi možda mogao vidjeti tu stanicu raka onakvom kakva je ona zaista:
10:09
something that needs to be destroyed.
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kao nešto što treba biti uništeno.
10:12
And so this is what we're doing in my lab.
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I to je ono što mi radimo u mom laboratoriju.
10:15
We're developing new medicines
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Razvijamo nove lijekove
10:17
that are basically cell-surface lawnmowers --
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koji su u osnovi površinske stanične kosilice,
10:21
molecules that go down to the surface of these cancer cells
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molekule koje dolaze do površine tih stanica raka
10:25
and just cut off those sialic acids,
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i samo odrežu tu sijaličnu kiselinu,
10:28
so that the immune system can reach its full potential
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kako bi imunološki sustav dostigao svoj puni potencijal
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in eliminating those cancer cells from our body.
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u eliminiranju tih stanica raka iz našeg tijela.
10:36
So in closing,
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I za kraj,
10:39
let me just remind you again:
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samo da vas podsjetim:
10:41
your cells are coated with sugars.
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vaše stanice su premazane šećerima.
10:44
The sugars are telling cells around that cell
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Šećeri govore stanicama oko te stanice
10:49
whether the cell is good or bad.
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je li ta stanica dobra ili loša.
10:52
And that's important,
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I to je važno,
10:53
because our immune system needs to leave the good cells alone.
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jer naš imunološki sustav treba ostaviti dobre stanice na miru.
10:56
Otherwise, we'd have autoimmune diseases.
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U suprotnom, imali bismo autoimune bolesti.
11:00
But once in a while, cancers get the ability
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Ali, s vremena na vrijeme, rak dobije mogućnost
11:03
to express these new sugars.
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da manifestira te nove šećere.
11:04
And now that we understand
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I sada kada razumijemo
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how those sugars mesmerize the immune system,
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kako ti šećeri obmanjuju imunološki sustav,
11:09
we can come up with new medicines to wake up those immune cells,
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možemo osmisliti nove lijekove da probude te imunološke stanice,
11:13
tell them, "Ignore the sugars, eat the cell
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da im kažu, "Ignorirajte šećere, pojedite stanicu
11:16
and have a delicious snack, on cancer."
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i uzmite ukusan zalogaj raka."
11:20
Thank you.
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Hvala vam.
11:21
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
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