Neil Burgess: How your brain tells you where you are

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Translator: Carme Paz Reviewer: Xusto Rodriguez
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When we park in a big parking lot,
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Cando aparcamos nun estacionamento grande,
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how do we remember where we parked our car?
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como lembramos onde deixamos o coche?
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Here's the problem facing Homer.
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Este é o problema que ten Homer.
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And we're going to try to understand
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E imos tratar de comprender
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what's happening in his brain.
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o que ocorre no seu cerebro.
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So we'll start with the hippocampus, shown in yellow,
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Comezaremos co hipocampo, en amarelo,
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which is the organ of memory.
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que é o órgano da memoria.
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If you have damage there, like in Alzheimer's,
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Se se dana, como no alzhéimer,
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you can't remember things including where you parked your car.
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non se lembran cousas como onde aparcamos.
00:34
It's named after Latin for "seahorse,"
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É o nome en latín para 'cabaliño de mar',
00:36
which it resembles.
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ao que se asemella.
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And like the rest of the brain, it's made of neurons.
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E como o resto do cerebro, componse de neuronas.
00:40
So the human brain
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O cerebro humano
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has about a hundred billion neurons in it.
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ten uns cen mil millóns de neuronas.
00:44
And the neurons communicate with each other
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As neuronas comunícanse entre si
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by sending little pulses or spikes of electricity
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con pequenos impulsos ou picos eléctricos
00:49
via connections to each other.
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a través das súas conexións.
00:51
The hippocampus is formed of two sheets of cells,
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O hipocampo componse de dúas capas de células
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which are very densely interconnected.
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densamente conectadas.
00:56
And scientists have begun to understand
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Os científicos comezaron a entender
00:58
how spatial memory works
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como funciona a memoria espacial
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by recording from individual neurons
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rastrexando neuronas individuais
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in rats or mice
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de ratas ou ratos
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while they forage or explore an environment
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ao alimentárense ou exploraren un medio
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looking for food.
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en busca de comida.
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So we're going to imagine we're recording from a single neuron
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Imaxinemos que rexistramos unha neurona individual
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in the hippocampus of this rat here.
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do hipocampo desta rata.
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And when it fires a little spike of electricity,
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Cando dispara un impulso eléctrico,
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there's going to be a red dot and a click.
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aparece un punto vermello e un clic.
01:19
So what we see
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O que vemos é
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is that this neuron knows
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que esta neurona sabe
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whenever the rat has gone into one particular place in its environment.
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se a rata foi a un lugar específico do seu medio.
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And it signals to the rest of the brain
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E dálle un sinal ao resto do cerebro
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by sending a little electrical spike.
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enviando un pequeno impulso eléctrico.
01:31
So we could show the firing rate of that neuron
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Así que podemos ver a taxa de disparos desa neurona
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as a function of the animal's location.
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como unha función localizadora do animal.
01:36
And if we record from lots of different neurons,
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E se rastrexamos moitas neuronas diferentes,
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we'll see that different neurons fire
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vemos que diferentes neuronas dan sinais
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when the animal goes in different parts of its environment,
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cando o animal vai a sitios diferentes,
01:42
like in this square box shown here.
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como nesta caixa cadrada.
01:44
So together they form a map
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Todas xuntas forman un mapa
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for the rest of the brain,
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para o resto do cerebro,
01:48
telling the brain continually,
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dicíndolle continuamente:
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"Where am I now within my environment?"
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"Onde estou agora no meu contorno?"
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Place cells are also being recorded in humans.
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As células de lugar tamén se rexistran en persoas.
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So epilepsy patients sometimes need
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Os pacientes de epilepsia ás veces precisan
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the electrical activity in their brain monitoring.
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que se vixíe a súa actividade eléctrica cerebral.
02:00
And some of these patients played a video game
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Algúns pacientes xogaron a un videoxogo
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where they drive around a small town.
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no que conducían ao redor dunha vila.
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And place cells in their hippocampi would fire, become active,
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E as células de lugar do hipocampo dispararían, activaríanse,
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start sending electrical impulses
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comezarían a enviar impulsos eléctricos
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whenever they drove through a particular location in that town.
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cada vez que pasaban por un punto determinado da vila.
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So how does a place cell know
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Como pode saber unha célula de lugar
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where the rat or person is within its environment?
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onde está a rata ou a persoa dentro do seu contorno?
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Well these two cells here
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Pois ben, estas dúas células
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show us that the boundaries of the environment
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indícannos que os límites do contorno
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are particularly important.
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son especialmente importantes.
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So the one on the top
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A que está arriba
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likes to fire sort of midway between the walls
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dispara nalgún punto entre as paredes
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of the box that their rat's in.
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da caixa onde está a rata.
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And when you expand the box, the firing location expands.
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E se ampliamos a caixa, amplíase tamén o lugar destes disparos.
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The one below likes to fire
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A da parte inferior dispara
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whenever there's a wall close by to the south.
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cando atopa unha parede cara ao sur.
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And if you put another wall inside the box,
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E se pomos outra parede na caixa,
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then the cell fires in both place
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a célula dispara a ambos os lados
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wherever there's a wall to the south
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cada vez que haxa unha parede ao sur
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as the animal explores around in its box.
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mentres o animal explora a caixa.
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So this predicts
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Así que isto predí a percepción
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that sensing the distances and directions of boundaries around you --
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das distancias e direccións dos límites ao redor,
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extended buildings and so on --
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02:54
is particularly important for the hippocampus.
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edificios grandes e así...,
é especialmente importante para o hipocampo.
02:57
And indeed, on the inputs to the hippocampus,
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E, de feito, nas entradas do hipocampo,
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cells are found which project into the hippocampus,
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hai células que se proxectan no hipocampo,
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which do respond exactly
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que responden exactamente
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to detecting boundaries or edges
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á detección de límites ou bordos
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at particular distances and directions
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en distancias específicas e direccións
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from the rat or mouse
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desde onde a rata ou o rato
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as it's exploring around.
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explora o contorno.
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So the cell on the left, you can see,
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Así que a célula á esquerda, como vedes,
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it fires whenever the animal gets near
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dispara cando o animal se achega
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to a wall or a boundary to the east,
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a unha parede ou límite no leste,
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whether it's the edge or the wall of a square box
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sexa o bordo ou a parede dun espazo cadrado
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or the circular wall of the circular box
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ou a parede dun espazo circular,
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or even the drop at the edge of a table, which the animals are running around.
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ou mesmo o bordo dunha mesa cando o animal a percorre.
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And the cell on the right there
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E a célula da dereita
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fires whenever there's a boundary to the south,
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dispara sempre que hai un bordo ao sur,
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whether it's the drop at the edge of the table or a wall
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sexa o bordo dunha mesa ou unha parede
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or even the gap between two tables that are pulled apart.
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ou mesmo o baleiro entre dúas mesas que se separan.
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So that's one way in which we think
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Esa é unha forma en que pensamos
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place cells determine where the animal is as it's exploring around.
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que as células de lugar determinan onde está o animal mentres explora.
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We can also test where we think objects are,
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Podemos probar tamén onde cremos que están os obxectos,
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like this goal flag, in simple environments --
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como esta bandeira, en medios simples,
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or indeed, where your car would be.
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ou mesmo, onde deberiamos ter o coche.
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So we can have people explore an environment
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Pode haber xente que explore un medio
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and see the location they have to remember.
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e observe a posición que ten que lembrar.
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And then, if we put them back in the environment,
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E, se os levamos outra vez ao medio,
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generally they're quite good at putting a marker down
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xeralmente son bastante bos ao marcar
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where they thought that flag or their car was.
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onde pensaron que estaría a bandeira ou o coche.
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But on some trials,
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Pero nalgunhas probas,
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we could change the shape and size of the environment
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poderiamos cambiar a forma e o tamaño do medio
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like we did with the place cell.
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como fixemos coa célula de lugar.
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In that case, we can see
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Nese caso, podemos ver
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how where they think the flag had been changes
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como cambia onde pensan que estaba a bandeira,
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as a function of how you change the shape and size of the environment.
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en función de como cambiamos a forma e o tamaño do medio.
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And what you see, for example,
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Vemos, por exemplo,
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if the flag was where that cross was in a small square environment,
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se a bandeira estaba onda a cruz dun espazo pequeno cadrado
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and then if you ask people where it was,
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e lle preguntamos á xente onde estaba
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but you've made the environment bigger,
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pero aumentamos o espazo,
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where they think the flag had been
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o lugar onde crían que estaba a bandeira
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stretches out in exactly the same way
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amplíase exactamente da mesma maneira
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that the place cell firing stretched out.
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que os disparos da célula de lugar.
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It's as if you remember where the flag was
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É coma se lembrásedes onde estaba a bandeira
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by storing the pattern of firing across all of your place cells
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gardando o patrón de disparos a través das células de lugar
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at that location,
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nesa posición,
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and then you can get back to that location
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e puidésedes volver á posición
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by moving around
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movéndovos
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so that you best match the current pattern of firing of your place cells
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ata facer coincidir o padrón actual das células de lugar
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with that stored pattern.
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co outro padrón almacenado.
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That guides you back to the location that you want to remember.
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Iso guíanos de volta á posición que queremos lembrar.
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But we also know where we are through movement.
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Pero tamén sabemos onde estamos a través do movemento.
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So if we take some outbound path --
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Se collemos un camiño de saída,
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perhaps we park and we wander off --
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quizais aparcamos e damos unha volta,
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we know because our own movements,
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sabemos polos nosos movementos,
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which we can integrate over this path
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que podemos integrar nese camiño,
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roughly what the heading direction is to go back.
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cal é a dirección para volver.
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And place cells also get this kind of path integration input
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E as células de lugar tamén integran esa información
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from a kind of cell called a grid cell.
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a través dun tipo de célula chamada célula grella.
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Now grid cells are found, again,
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As células grella tamén se atopan
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on the inputs to the hippocampus,
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nas entradas ao hipocampo,
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and they're a bit like place cells.
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son un pouco como as células de lugar.
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But now as the rat explores around,
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Pero neste caso cando a rata explora,
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each individual cell fires
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cada célula individual dispara
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in a whole array of different locations
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a un rango de lugares moi diferentes
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which are laid out across the environment
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que están espallados polo medio
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in an amazingly regular triangular grid.
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nunha impresionante rede triangular.
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And if you record from several grid cells --
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E se rastrexades varias células grella,
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shown here in different colors --
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aquí en diferentes cores,
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each one has a grid-like firing pattern across the environment,
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cada unha ten un padrón de disparos nese medio como unha rede
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and each cell's grid-like firing pattern is shifted slightly
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e o padrón de disparos de cada célula rede cambia lixeiramente
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relative to the other cells.
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en relación coas outras células.
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So the red one fires on this grid
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Así que a vermella dispara nesta rede
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and the green one on this one and the blue on on this one.
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e a verde nesta e a azul nesta.
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So together, it's as if the rat
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E xuntas, é coma se a rata
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can put a virtual grid of firing locations
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fixese unha rede virtual de posicións de disparos
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across its environment --
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por todo o medio,
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a bit like the latitude and longitude lines that you'd find on a map,
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un pouco como as liñas de latitude e lonxitude que hai nun mapa
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but using triangles.
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pero con triángulos.
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And as it moves around,
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E ao moverse,
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the electrical activity can pass
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a actividade eléctrica pode pasar
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from one of these cells to the next cell
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desde unha destas células á próxima
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to keep track of where it is,
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para seguir a pista de onde está,
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so that it can use its own movements
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para que poida usar os propios movementos
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to know where it is in its environment.
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e saber onde está no contorno.
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Do people have grid cells?
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A xente ten células grella?
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Well because all of the grid-like firing patterns
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Ben, que todos os padróns que disparan en rede
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have the same axes of symmetry,
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teñan os mesmos eixes de simetrías,
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the same orientations of grid, shown in orange here,
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a mesma orientación da rede, en laranxa aquí,
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it means that the net activity
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quere dicir que a actividade
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of all of the grid cells in a particular part of the brain
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de todas as células grella nun lugar particular do cerebro
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should change
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debería cambiar
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according to whether we're running along these six directions
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segundo esteamos correndo nestas seis direccións
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or running along one of the six directions in between.
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ou nunha das seis direccións intermedias.
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So we can put people in an MRI scanner
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Podemos poñer xente nun escáner IRM
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and have them do a little video game
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e darlle un pequeno videoxogo
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like the one I showed you
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como o que vos amosei
06:38
and look for this signal.
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e buscar este sinal.
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And indeed, you do see it in the human entorhinal cortex,
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E vedes no córtex entorrinal humano,
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which is the same part of the brain that you see grid cells in rats.
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que está na mesma parte do cerebro que as células grella das ratas.
06:46
So back to Homer.
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Así que volvendo a Homer.
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He's probably remembering where his car was
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Estará lembrando onde puxo o coche
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in terms of the distances and directions
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en termos de distancias e direccións
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to extended buildings and boundaries
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cara a edificios extensos e límites
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around the location where he parked.
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ao redor da posición onde aparcou.
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And that would be represented
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E iso estará representado
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by the firing of boundary-detecting cells.
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polos disparos de células detectoras de límites.
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He's also remembering the path he took out of the car park,
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Tamén estará lembrando o camiño que colleu fóra do aparcamento,
07:03
which would be represented in the firing of grid cells.
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que estará representado nos disparos de células grella.
07:06
Now both of these kinds of cells
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Ambos os tipos de células
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can make the place cells fire.
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poden facer disparar as células.
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And he can return to the location where he parked
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E el pode volver ao lugar onde aparcou
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by moving so as to find where it is
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movéndose para atopalo
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that best matches the firing pattern
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ata que encaixe o padrón de disparos
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of the place cells in his brain currently
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das células de lugar
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with the stored pattern where he parked his car.
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co padrón almacenado de onde aparcou o seu coche.
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And that guides him back to that location
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E iso guíao de volta á posición
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irrespective of visual cues
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independentemente das pistas visuais
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like whether his car's actually there.
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coma se o seu coche estivese alí.
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Maybe it's been towed.
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Pode que llo levara o guindastre.
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But he knows where it was, so he knows to go and get it.
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Pero el sabe onde estaba, así que sabe onde ir e collelo.
07:33
So beyond spatial memory,
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Máis alá da memoria espacial,
07:35
if we look for this grid-like firing pattern
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se buscamos este padrón rede
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throughout the whole brain,
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a través de todo o cerebro,
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we see it in a whole series of locations
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vémolo nunha serie de posicións
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which are always active
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que están sempre activas
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when we do all kinds of autobiographical memory tasks,
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ao facermos tarefas de memoria autobiográfica,
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like remembering the last time you went to a wedding, for example.
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como lembrar a última vez que fomos a unha voda.
07:49
So it may be that the neural mechanisms
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Pode que os mecanismos neuronais
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for representing the space around us
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para representar o espazo ao noso redor
07:54
are also used for generating visual imagery
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se usen tamén para xerar imaxinaría visual,
07:58
so that we can recreate the spatial scene, at least,
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para que poidamos recrear a escena espacial, polo menos,
08:01
of the events that have happened to us when we want to imagine them.
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dos eventos que nos ocorreron cando os imaxinamos.
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So if this was happening,
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Se isto ocorrese,
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your memories could start by place cells activating each other
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as vosas memorias comezarían activando entre si as células de lugar
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via these dense interconnections
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a través desas densas conexións
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and then reactivating boundary cells
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e reactivando células límite
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to create the spatial structure
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para crear a estrutura espacial
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of the scene around your viewpoint.
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ao redor da vosa perspectiva.
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And grid cells could move this viewpoint through that space.
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E as células grella poderían mover a perspectiva no espazo.
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Another kind of cell, head direction cells,
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Outro tipo de célula, as de dirección da cabeza,
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which I didn't mention yet,
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que aínda non mencionei,
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they fire like a compass according to which way you're facing.
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disparan como un compás de acordo co camiño que seguides.
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They could define the viewing direction
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Poden definir a dirección da vista
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from which you want to generate an image for your visual imagery,
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desde onde queredes xerar unha imaxe para a vosa imaxinaría visual,
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so you can imagine what happened when you were at this wedding, for example.
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así que podedes imaxinar o que ocorreu nesa voda, por exemplo.
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So this is just one example
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Isto é só un exemplo
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of a new era really
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dunha nova era
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in cognitive neuroscience
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da neurociencia cognitiva,
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where we're beginning to understand
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cando comezamos a entender
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psychological processes
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procesos psicolóxicos,
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like how you remember or imagine or even think
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como o xeito en que lembramos ou imaxinamos ou mesmo pensamos
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in terms of the actions
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en termos de accións
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of the billions of individual neurons that make up our brains.
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dos centos de miles de neuronas individuais que forman o cerebro.
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Thank you very much.
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Moitas grazas.
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(Applause)
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(Aplausos)
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