Neil Burgess: How your brain tells you where you are

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When we park in a big parking lot,
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Kada parkiramo na velikom parkiralištu,
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how do we remember where we parked our car?
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kako se sjetimo gdje smo ostavili auto?
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Here's the problem facing Homer.
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Ovaj problem muči Homera.
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And we're going to try to understand
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Pokušat ćemo razumjeti
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what's happening in his brain.
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što se događa u njegovom mozgu.
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So we'll start with the hippocampus, shown in yellow,
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Počnimo s hipokampusom, koji je obojan žuto,
00:28
which is the organ of memory.
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i organ je memorije.
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If you have damage there, like in Alzheimer's,
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Ako imate neko oštećenje na tom području, kao kod Alzheimerove bolesti,
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you can't remember things including where you parked your car.
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ne možete zapamtiti stvari poput toga gdje ste parkirali.
00:34
It's named after Latin for "seahorse,"
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Hipokampus je dobio ime po latinskom nazivu za morskog konjica,
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which it resembles.
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na kojeg izgledom podsjeća.
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And like the rest of the brain, it's made of neurons.
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Kao i ostatak mozga, načinjen je od neurona.
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So the human brain
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Ljudski mozak
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has about a hundred billion neurons in it.
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sadrži otprilike stotinu milijardi neurona.
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And the neurons communicate with each other
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Ti neuroni međusobno komuniciraju,
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by sending little pulses or spikes of electricity
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šalju si male električne signale
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via connections to each other.
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preko različitih veza kojima su povezani.
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The hippocampus is formed of two sheets of cells,
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Hipokampus se sastoji od dvije ploče stanica
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which are very densely interconnected.
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koje su vrlo gusto povezane.
00:56
And scientists have begun to understand
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Znanstvenici su počeli shvaćati
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how spatial memory works
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kako funkcionira prostorna memorija
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by recording from individual neurons
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snimajući aktivnost pojedinih neurona
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in rats or mice
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kod štakora ili miševa
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while they forage or explore an environment
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koji su istraživali okolinu
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looking for food.
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u potrazi za hranom.
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So we're going to imagine we're recording from a single neuron
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Sada ćemo zamisliti da snimamo aktivnost jednog neurona
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in the hippocampus of this rat here.
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u hipokampusu ovog štakora ovdje.
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And when it fires a little spike of electricity,
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Kada neuron bude odaslao jedan impuls elektriciteta,
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there's going to be a red dot and a click.
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ovdje ćemo vidjeti crvenu točku i začuti klik.
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So what we see
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Vidimo da
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is that this neuron knows
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taj neuron zna
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whenever the rat has gone into one particular place in its environment.
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je li štakor otišao na točno određeno mjesto u okolini.
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And it signals to the rest of the brain
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I šalje signal ostatku mozga
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by sending a little electrical spike.
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tim jednim električnim impulsom.
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So we could show the firing rate of that neuron
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Dakle, možemo prikazati jačinu tog impulsa
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as a function of the animal's location.
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kao funkciju lokacije životinje.
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And if we record from lots of different neurons,
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I ako snimimo aktivnost više neurona,
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we'll see that different neurons fire
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vidjet ćemo da različiti neuroni šalju impulse
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when the animal goes in different parts of its environment,
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kako životinja ide u različite dijelove okoline,
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like in this square box shown here.
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kao u ovom kvadratiću ovdje.
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So together they form a map
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Zajedno, oni čine mapu
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for the rest of the brain,
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za ostatak mozga,
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telling the brain continually,
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neprekidno govoreći mozgu,
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"Where am I now within my environment?"
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“Gdje se sada nalazim unutar moje okoline?”
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Place cells are also being recorded in humans.
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Aktivnost stanica zaduženih za lociranje također je snimana i kod ljudi.
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So epilepsy patients sometimes need
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Osobe koje boluju od epilepsije katkada trebaju
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the electrical activity in their brain monitoring.
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električnu aktivnost pri nadziranju moždanih funkcija.
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And some of these patients played a video game
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Neki od njih su igrali video igricu
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where they drive around a small town.
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u kojoj voze auto po malenom gradiću.
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And place cells in their hippocampi would fire, become active,
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Stanice njihovog hipokampusa bi odaslale impuls, aktivirale se
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start sending electrical impulses
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i slale signal
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whenever they drove through a particular location in that town.
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kad god bi oni provezli auto kroz točno određeno mjesto u tom gradiću.
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So how does a place cell know
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Kako stanica za lociranje zna
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where the rat or person is within its environment?
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gdje se štakor ili osoba nalaze?
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Well these two cells here
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Ove dvije stanice ovdje
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show us that the boundaries of the environment
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pokazuju nam da su granice okoline
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are particularly important.
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osobito važne.
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So the one on the top
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Ova gornja
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likes to fire sort of midway between the walls
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voli slati signal s polovice puta između zidova
02:28
of the box that their rat's in.
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kutije u kojoj se štakor nalazi.
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And when you expand the box, the firing location expands.
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A kada proširite kutiju, i preferirana lokacija za odašiljanje signala se proširi.
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The one below likes to fire
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Donja stanica voli slati signal
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whenever there's a wall close by to the south.
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uvijek kada postoji zid u blizini juga.
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And if you put another wall inside the box,
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I ako postavite još jedan zid u kutiju,
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then the cell fires in both place
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stanica će slati signal s oba mjesta,
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wherever there's a wall to the south
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gdje god je zid u blizini juga,
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as the animal explores around in its box.
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kako životinja bude istraživala oko kutije.
02:48
So this predicts
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Ovo ukazuje
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that sensing the distances and directions of boundaries around you --
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kako je osjećaj za udaljenost i smjer u kojem se nalaze granice oko vas
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extended buildings and so on --
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(u proširenom smislu zgrade itd.)
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is particularly important for the hippocampus.
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povezan s hipokampusom.
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And indeed, on the inputs to the hippocampus,
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I zaista, jedan od aferentnih putova za hipokampus,
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cells are found which project into the hippocampus,
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stanice koje šalju projekcije u hipokampus,
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which do respond exactly
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reagiraju upravo
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to detecting boundaries or edges
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detektirajući granice i rubove
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at particular distances and directions
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na posebnim udaljenostima i pravcima
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from the rat or mouse
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od štakora ili miša
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as it's exploring around.
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dok istražuje uokolo.
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So the cell on the left, you can see,
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Stanica s lijeve strane, kao što vidite,
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it fires whenever the animal gets near
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odašilje signal kada se životinja nađe kod
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to a wall or a boundary to the east,
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zida ili granice blizu istoka,
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whether it's the edge or the wall of a square box
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bio to ugao ili zid četvrtaste kutije,
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or the circular wall of the circular box
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zaobljen zid okrugle kutije
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or even the drop at the edge of a table, which the animals are running around.
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ili pak rub stola po kojem životinja hoda.
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And the cell on the right there
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Stanica desno
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fires whenever there's a boundary to the south,
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odašilje signal kada postoji granica prema jugu,
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whether it's the drop at the edge of the table or a wall
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bio to rub stola
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or even the gap between two tables that are pulled apart.
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ili mali prostor između dva spojena stola.
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So that's one way in which we think
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Mislimo kako je to jedan od načina
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place cells determine where the animal is as it's exploring around.
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na koji stanice za lociranje određuju gdje se životinja nalazi.
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We can also test where we think objects are,
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Možemo testirati i osjećaj smještanja objekata u prostor,
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like this goal flag, in simple environments --
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poput ove zastavice, u jednostavnim uvjetima,
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or indeed, where your car would be.
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tj. gdje bi se mogao nalaziti vaš auto.
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So we can have people explore an environment
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Na početku imamo ispitanike koji promatraju okolinu
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and see the location they have to remember.
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i lokaciju koju moraju upamtiti.
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And then, if we put them back in the environment,
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Kada ih poslije vratimo u istu okolinu,
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generally they're quite good at putting a marker down
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generalno su prilično dobri u smještanju oznake
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where they thought that flag or their car was.
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na mjesto na kojem je prije bila zastavica ili auto.
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But on some trials,
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Možemo mijenjati
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we could change the shape and size of the environment
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oblik i veličinu okoline
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like we did with the place cell.
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kao što smo radili sa stanicama za lociranje.
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In that case, we can see
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U tom slučaju, vidjet ćemo
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how where they think the flag had been changes
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da se njihovo mišljenje o tome gdje je zastavica bila mijenja
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as a function of how you change the shape and size of the environment.
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ovisno o promjeni oblika i veličine okoline.
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And what you see, for example,
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Na primjer,
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if the flag was where that cross was in a small square environment,
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ako je zastavica bila gdje se nalazi križić u maloj četvrtastoj okolini
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and then if you ask people where it was,
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i pitamo ljude gdje je bila,
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but you've made the environment bigger,
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ali povećamo okolinu –
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where they think the flag had been
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njihova predodžba o mjestu na kojem se zastavica nalazila
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stretches out in exactly the same way
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se proširuje isto kao što se proširilo
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that the place cell firing stretched out.
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i područje na kojem stanice za lociranje odašilju impuls.
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It's as if you remember where the flag was
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Čini se da pamtimo gdje se zastavica nalazila
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by storing the pattern of firing across all of your place cells
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pohranjujući uzorke odašiljanja impulsa svih stanica
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at that location,
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za lociranje na toj lokaciji.
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and then you can get back to that location
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Možemo se vratiti na tu lokaciju
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by moving around
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kružeći uokolo
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so that you best match the current pattern of firing of your place cells
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tako što ćemo povezati trenutne uzorke odašiljanja impulsa stanica za lociranje
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with that stored pattern.
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sa onima koje smo pohranili.
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That guides you back to the location that you want to remember.
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To nas vodi natrag k lokaciji koju trebamo upamtiti.
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But we also know where we are through movement.
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Ali također znamo gdje se nalazimo kroz pokret.
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So if we take some outbound path --
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Ako krenemo nekim izlaznim putem,
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perhaps we park and we wander off --
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na primjer parkiramo i odlutamo,
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we know because our own movements,
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sjećamo se svojih pokreta,
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which we can integrate over this path
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možemo ih ponovno ugrubo integrirati
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roughly what the heading direction is to go back.
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te pronaći put natrag.
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And place cells also get this kind of path integration input
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Stanice za lociranje također dobivaju projekciju tog tipa
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from a kind of cell called a grid cell.
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od tzv. rešetkastih stanica.
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Now grid cells are found, again,
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Rešetkaste stanice pojavljuju se
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on the inputs to the hippocampus,
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kao projekcija u hipokampusu
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and they're a bit like place cells.
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i nalik su stanicama za lociranje.
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But now as the rat explores around,
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Kako štakor istražuje okolinu,
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each individual cell fires
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svaka individualna stanica ispaljuje
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in a whole array of different locations
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na nizu različitih lokacija
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which are laid out across the environment
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koje su posložene
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in an amazingly regular triangular grid.
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u nevjerojatno pravilan trokutast oblik.
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And if you record from several grid cells --
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I ako snimimo aktivnost više različitih rešetkastih stanica –
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shown here in different colors --
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što vidimo ovdje prikazano različitim bojama –
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each one has a grid-like firing pattern across the environment,
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svaka ima uzorak nalik rešetki uzduž okoline,
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and each cell's grid-like firing pattern is shifted slightly
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i svaki taj uzorak je malo pomaknut
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relative to the other cells.
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u odnosu na uzorke ostalih stanica.
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So the red one fires on this grid
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Crvena formira ovu rešetku,
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and the green one on this one and the blue on on this one.
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zelena ovu, a plava ovu.
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So together, it's as if the rat
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Dakle, to je kao da štakor
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can put a virtual grid of firing locations
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na temelju svoje okoline sastavlja virtualnu rešetku lokacija
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across its environment --
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na kojima se odašilje impuls –
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a bit like the latitude and longitude lines that you'd find on a map,
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nešto poput okomitih i vodoravnih linija koje možete naći na karti,
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but using triangles.
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samo koristi trokute.
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And as it moves around,
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Kako se kreće uokolo,
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the electrical activity can pass
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električna aktivnost prelazi
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from one of these cells to the next cell
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s jedne na drugu stanicu
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to keep track of where it is,
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i bilježi gdje se štakor nalazi,
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so that it can use its own movements
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tako da on može znati gdje se nalazi
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to know where it is in its environment.
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koristeći vlastite kretnje.
06:11
Do people have grid cells?
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Imaju li ljudi rešetkaste stanice?
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Well because all of the grid-like firing patterns
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Budući da svi rešetkasti uzorci impulsa
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have the same axes of symmetry,
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imaju iste osi simetrije,
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the same orientations of grid, shown in orange here,
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istu orijentaciju rešetki, što je prikazano ovdje narančasto,
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it means that the net activity
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to bi značilo da mrežastu aktivnost
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of all of the grid cells in a particular part of the brain
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svih rešetkastih stanica određenog dijela mozga
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should change
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možemo mijenjati
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according to whether we're running along these six directions
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ovisno o tome krećemo li se uzduž jednog od ovih šest pravaca
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or running along one of the six directions in between.
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ili jednog od šest pravaca između.
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So we can put people in an MRI scanner
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Ljude možemo podvrgnuti MRI skeniranju
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and have them do a little video game
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dok igraju video igru
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like the one I showed you
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poput one koju sam vam pokazao.
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and look for this signal.
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i tražiti taj signal.
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And indeed, you do see it in the human entorhinal cortex,
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I zaista, taj signal možete vidjeti u ljudskom entorinalnom korteksu,
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which is the same part of the brain that you see grid cells in rats.
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koji se nalazi na istom dijelu mozga na kojem kod štakora nalazimo rešetkaste stanice.
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So back to Homer.
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Vratimo se Homeru.
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He's probably remembering where his car was
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Vjerojatno se sjeća gdje mu se nalazi auto
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in terms of the distances and directions
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u smislu udaljenosti te pravca
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to extended buildings and boundaries
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zgrada i granica
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around the location where he parked.
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koje okružuju mjesto na kojemu je parkirao.
06:56
And that would be represented
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I to bismo vidjeli kao odašiljanje signala
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by the firing of boundary-detecting cells.
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stanica koje detektiraju granice.
07:00
He's also remembering the path he took out of the car park,
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Također, sjeća se i puta kojim je krenuo s parkirališta,
07:03
which would be represented in the firing of grid cells.
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a to bismo vidjeli kao odašiljanje signala rešetkastih stanica.
07:06
Now both of these kinds of cells
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Obje vrste stanica
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can make the place cells fire.
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mogu dovesti do odašiljanja signala iz stanica za lociranje.
07:10
And he can return to the location where he parked
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Homer se može vratiti do mjesta gdje se parkirao
07:12
by moving so as to find where it is
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tražeći mjesto na kojem se
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that best matches the firing pattern
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trenutno odašiljanje stanica za lociranje
07:17
of the place cells in his brain currently
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najbolje poklapa
07:19
with the stored pattern where he parked his car.
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s upamćenim uzorkom odašiljanja signala.
07:22
And that guides him back to that location
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To ga vodi natrag na lokaciju
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irrespective of visual cues
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bez obzira na vizualne znakove
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like whether his car's actually there.
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poput toga je li njegov auto zbilja tamo.
07:28
Maybe it's been towed.
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Možda ga je pauk odnio.
07:30
But he knows where it was, so he knows to go and get it.
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Ali on zna gdje je bio, tako da zna i otići po njega.
07:33
So beyond spatial memory,
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S druge strane,
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if we look for this grid-like firing pattern
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ako pogledamo ove rešetkaste uzorke
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throughout the whole brain,
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odašiljanja impulsa kroz cijeli mozak,
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we see it in a whole series of locations
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vidimo serije lokacija
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which are always active
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koje su aktivne uvijek
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when we do all kinds of autobiographical memory tasks,
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kada obavljamo razne zadatke vezane uz autobiografsko sjećanje,
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like remembering the last time you went to a wedding, for example.
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na primjer prisjećanje kada smo zadnji put bili na vjenčanju.
07:49
So it may be that the neural mechanisms
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Moguće je da se neuralni mehanizmi
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for representing the space around us
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za prikazivanje prostora oko nas
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are also used for generating visual imagery
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koriste ujedno i za generiranje vizualnih slika
07:58
so that we can recreate the spatial scene, at least,
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kako bismo mogli stvoriti prostorni prizor
08:01
of the events that have happened to us when we want to imagine them.
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događaja koji su nam se dogodili kada ih se želimo prisjetiti.
08:04
So if this was happening,
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Ako se to događa na taj način,
08:06
your memories could start by place cells activating each other
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prisjećanje počinje tako što se stanice za lociranje međusobno aktiviraju
08:09
via these dense interconnections
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putem gustih komunikacija,
08:11
and then reactivating boundary cells
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reaktiviraju stanice za detektiranje granica
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to create the spatial structure
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kako bi stvorile prostornu strukturu
08:15
of the scene around your viewpoint.
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prizora s vaše točke gledišta.
08:17
And grid cells could move this viewpoint through that space.
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Rešetkaste stanice pomiču tu točku gledišta kroz prostor.
08:19
Another kind of cell, head direction cells,
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Još jedna vrsta stanica
08:21
which I didn't mention yet,
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koju dosad nisam spominjao,
08:23
they fire like a compass according to which way you're facing.
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stanice koje određuju smjer gibanja glave odašilju impulse poput kompasa ovisno o tome na koju stranu ste okrenuti.
08:26
They could define the viewing direction
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One definiraju pravac gledanja
08:28
from which you want to generate an image for your visual imagery,
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s kojeg želite generirati imaginarnu sliku,
08:31
so you can imagine what happened when you were at this wedding, for example.
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tako da na primjer, možete zamisliti što se događalo kada ste bili na tom vjenčanju.
08:34
So this is just one example
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Ovo je još jedan dokaz
08:36
of a new era really
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o novom dobu
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in cognitive neuroscience
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koje je nastupilo u neuroznanosti,
08:40
where we're beginning to understand
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gdje počinjemo shvaćati
08:42
psychological processes
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psihičke procese
08:44
like how you remember or imagine or even think
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poput toga kako se prisjećamo, kako zamišljamo ili mislimo
08:47
in terms of the actions
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u okvirima aktivnosti
08:49
of the billions of individual neurons that make up our brains.
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milijardi individualnih neurona koji sačinjavaju naš mozak.
08:52
Thank you very much.
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Hvala puno.
08:54
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
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