Robert Thurman: Expanding your circle of compassion

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I want to open by quoting Einstein's wonderful statement,
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just so people will feel at ease that the great scientist of the 20th century
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also agrees with us, and also calls us to this action.
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He said, "A human being is a part of the whole, called by us, the 'universe,' --
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a part limited in time and space.
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He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings,
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as something separated from the rest,
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a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness.
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This delusion is a kind of prison for us,
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restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us.
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Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion,
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to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty."
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This insight of Einstein's is uncannily close to that of Buddhist psychology,
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wherein compassion -- "karuna," it is called --
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is defined as, "the sensitivity to another's suffering
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and the corresponding will to free the other from that suffering."
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It pairs closely with love, which is the will for the other to be happy,
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which requires, of course, that one feels some happiness oneself
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and wishes to share it.
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This is perfect in that it clearly opposes self-centeredness
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and selfishness to compassion, the concern for others,
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and, further, it indicates that those caught in the cycle of self-concern
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suffer helplessly, while the compassionate are more free
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and, implicitly, more happy.
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The Dalai Lama often states that compassion is his best friend.
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It helps him when he is overwhelmed with grief and despair.
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Compassion helps him turn away from the feeling of his suffering
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as the most absolute, most terrible suffering anyone has ever had
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and broadens his awareness of the sufferings of others,
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even of the perpetrators of his misery and the whole mass of beings.
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In fact, suffering is so huge and enormous,
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his own becomes less and less monumental.
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And he begins to move beyond his self-concern into the broader concern for others.
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And this immediately cheers him up,
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as his courage is stimulated to rise to the occasion.
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Thus, he uses his own suffering
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as a doorway to widening his circle of compassion.
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He is a very good colleague of Einstein's, we must say.
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Now, I want to tell a story,
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which is a very famous story in the Indian and Buddhist tradition,
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of the great Saint Asanga
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who was a contemporary of Augustine in the West
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and was sort of like the Buddhist Augustine.
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And Asanga lived 800 years after the Buddha's time.
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And he was discontented with the state of people's practice
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of the Buddhist religion in India at that time.
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And so he said, "I'm sick of all this. Nobody's really living the doctrine.
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They're talking about love and compassion and wisdom and enlightenment,
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but they are acting selfish and pathetic.
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So, Buddha's teaching has lost its momentum.
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I know the next Buddha will come a few thousand years from now,
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but exists currently in a certain heaven" -- that's Maitreya --
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"so, I'm going to go on a retreat and I'm going to meditate
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and pray until the Buddha Maitreya reveals himself to me,
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and gives me a teaching or something
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to revive the practice of compassion in the world today."
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So he went on this retreat. And he meditated for three years
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and he did not see the future Buddha Maitreya.
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And he left in disgust.
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And as he was leaving, he saw a man --
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a funny little man sitting sort of part way down the mountain.
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And he had a lump of iron.
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And he was rubbing it with a cloth.
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And he became interested in that.
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He said, "Well what are you doing?"
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And the man said, "I'm making a needle."
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And he said, "That's ridiculous. You can't make a needle
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by rubbing a lump of iron with a cloth."
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And the man said, "Really?" And he showed him a dish full of needles.
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So he said, "Okay, I get the point."
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He went back to his cave. He meditated again.
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Another three years, no vision. He leaves again.
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This time, he comes down.
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And as he's leaving, he sees a bird making a nest on a cliff ledge.
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And where it's landing to bring the twigs to the cliff,
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its feathers brushes the rock -- and it had cut the rock
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six to eight inches in. There was a cleft in the rock
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by the brushing of the feathers of generations of the birds.
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So he said, "All right. I get the point." He went back.
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Another three years.
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Again, no vision of Maitreya after nine years.
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And he again leaves, and this time: water dripping,
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making a giant bowl in the rock where it drips in a stream.
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And so, again, he goes back. And after 12 years there is still no vision.
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And he's freaked out. And he won't even look left or right
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to see any encouraging vision.
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And he comes to the town. He's a broken person.
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And there, in the town, he's approached by a dog
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who comes like this -- one of these terrible dogs you can see in some poor countries,
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even in America, I think, in some areas --
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and he's looking just terrible.
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And he becomes interested in this dog because it's so pathetic,
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and it's trying to attract his attention. And he sits down looking at the dog.
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And the dog's whole hindquarters are a complete open sore.
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Some of it is like gangrenous,
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and there are maggots in the flesh. And it's terrible.
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He thinks, "What can I do to fix up this dog?
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Well, at least I can clean this wound and wash it."
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So, he takes it to some water. He's about to clean,
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but then his awareness focuses on the maggots.
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And he sees the maggots, and the maggots are kind of looking a little cute.
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And they're maggoting happily in the dog's hindquarters there.
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"Well, if I clean the dog, I'll kill the maggots. So how can that be?
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That's it. I'm a useless person and there's no Buddha, no Maitreya,
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and everything is all hopeless.
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And now I'm going to kill the maggots?"
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So, he had a brilliant idea.
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And he took a shard of something, and cut a piece of flesh from his thigh,
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and he placed it on ground.
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He was not really thinking too carefully about the ASPCA.
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He was just immediately caught with the situation.
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So he thought, "I will take the maggots and put them on this piece of flesh,
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then clean the dog's wounds, and then
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I'll figure out what to do with the maggots."
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So he starts to do that. He can't grab the maggots.
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Apparently they wriggle around. They're kind of hard to grab, these maggots.
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So he says, "Well, I'll put my tongue on the dog's flesh.
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And then the maggots will jump on my warmer tongue" --
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the dog is kind of used up --
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"and then I'll spit them one by one down on the thing."
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So he goes down, and he's sticking his tongue out like this.
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And he had to close his eyes, it's so disgusting, and the smell and everything.
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And then, suddenly, there's a pfft, a noise like that.
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He jumps back and there, of course, is the future Buddha Maitreya
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in a beautiful vision -- rainbow lights, golden, jeweled, a plasma body,
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an exquisite mystic vision -- that he sees.
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And he says, "Oh." He bows.
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But, being human, he's immediately thinking of his next complaint.
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So as he comes up from his first bow he says,
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"My Lord, I'm so happy to see you, but where have you been for 12 years?
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What is this?"
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And Maitreya says, "I was with you. Who do you think was making needles
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and making nests and dripping on rocks for you, mister dense?"
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(Laughter)
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"Looking for the Buddha in person," he said.
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And he said, "You didn't have, until this moment, real compassion.
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And, until you have real compassion, you cannot recognize love."
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"Maitreya" means love, "the loving one," in Sanskrit.
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And so he looked very dubious, Asanga did.
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And he said, "If you don't believe me, just take me with you."
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And so he took the Maitreya -- it shrunk into a globe, a ball --
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took him on his shoulder.
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And he ran into town in the marketplace, and he said, "Rejoice! Rejoice!
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The future Buddha has come ahead of all predictions. Here he is."
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And then pretty soon they started throwing rocks and stones at him --
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it wasn't Chautauqua, it was some other town --
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because they saw a demented looking, scrawny looking yogi man,
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like some kind of hippie, with a bleeding leg and a rotten dog on his shoulder,
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shouting that the future Buddha had come.
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So, naturally, they chased him out of town.
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But on the edge of town, one elderly lady, a charwoman in the charnel ground,
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saw a jeweled foot on a jeweled lotus on his shoulder and then the dog,
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but she saw the jewel foot of the Maitreya, and she offered a flower.
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So that encouraged him, and he went with Maitreya.
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Maitreya then took him to a certain heaven,
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which is the typical way a Buddhist myth unfolds.
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And Maitreya then kept him in heaven for five years,
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dictating to him five complicated tomes
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of the methodology of how you cultivate compassion.
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And then I thought I would share with you what that method is, or one of them.
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A famous one, it's called the "Sevenfold Causal Method of Developing Compassion."
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And it begins first by one meditating and visualizing that all beings are with one --
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even animals too, but everyone is in human form.
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The animals are in one of their human lives. The humans are human.
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And then, among them, you think of your friends and loved ones, the circle at the table.
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And you think of your enemies, and you think of the neutral ones.
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And then you try to say, "Well, the loved ones I love.
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But, you know, after all, they're nice to me.
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I had fights with them. Sometimes they were unfriendly.
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I got mad. Brothers can fight. Parents and children can fight.
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So, in a way, I like them so much because they're nice to me.
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While the neutral ones I don't know. They could all be just fine.
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And then the enemies I don't like because they're mean to me.
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But they are nice to somebody. I could be them."
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And then the Buddhists, of course, think that, because we've all had infinite previous lives,
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we've all been each other's relatives, actually.
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Therefore all of you, in the Buddhist view,
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in some previous life, although you don't remember it and neither do I,
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have been my mother -- for which I do apologize for the trouble I caused you.
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And also, actually, I've been your mother.
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I've been female, and I've been every single one of yours' mother in a previous life,
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the way the Buddhists reflect.
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So, my mother in this life is really great. But all of you in a way
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are part of the eternal mother.
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You gave me that expression; "the eternal mama," you said. That's wonderful.
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So, that's the way the Buddhists do it.
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A theist Christian can think that all beings, even my enemies, are God's children.
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So, in that sense, we're related.
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So, they first create this foundation of equality.
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So, we sort of reduce a little of the clinging to the ones we love --
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just in the meditation -- and we open our mind to those we don't know.
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And we definitely reduce the hostility and the "I don't want to be compassionate to them"
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to the ones we think of as the bad guys, the ones we hate and we don't like.
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And we don't hate anyone, therefore. So we equalize. That's very important.
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And then the next thing we do is what is called "mother recognition."
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And that is, we think of every being as familiar, as family.
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We expand. We take the feeling about remembering a mama,
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and we defuse that to all beings in this meditation.
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And we see the mother in every being.
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We see that look that the mother has on her face,
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looking at this child that is a miracle
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that she has produced from her own body, being a mammal,
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where she has true compassion, truly is the other, and identifies completely.
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Often the life of that other will be more important to her than her own life.
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And that's why it's the most powerful form of altruism.
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The mother is the model of all altruism for human beings,
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in spiritual traditions.
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And so, we reflect until we can sort of see that motherly expression in all beings.
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People laugh at me because, you know, I used to say that
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I used to meditate on mama Cheney as my mom,
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when, of course, I was annoyed with him about all of his evil doings in Iraq.
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I used to meditate on George Bush. He's quite a cute mom in a female form.
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He has his little ears and he smiles and he rocks you in his arms.
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And you think of him as nursing you.
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And then Saddam Hussein's serious mustache is a problem,
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but you think of him as a mom.
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And this is the way you do it. You take any being who looks weird to you,
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and you see how they could be familiar to you.
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And you do that for a while, until you really feel that.
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You can feel the familiarity of all beings.
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Nobody seems alien. They're not "other."
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You reduce the feeling of otherness about beings.
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Then you move from there to remembering the kindness of mothers in general,
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if you can remember the kindness of your own mother,
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if you can remember the kindness of your spouse,
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or, if you are a mother yourself, how you were with your children.
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And you begin to get very sentimental; you cultivate sentimentality intensely.
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You will even weep, perhaps, with gratitude and kindness.
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And then you connect that with your feeling that everyone has that motherly possibility.
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Every being, even the most mean looking ones, can be motherly.
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And then, third, you step from there to what is called "a feeling of gratitude."
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You want to repay that kindness that all beings have shown to you.
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And then the fourth step, you go to what is called "lovely love."
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In each one of these you can take some weeks, or months, or days
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depending on how you do it, or you can do them in a run, this meditation.
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And then you think of how lovely beings are when they are happy,
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when they are satisfied.
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And every being looks beautiful when they are internally feeling a happiness.
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Their face doesn't look like this. When they're angry, they look ugly, every being,
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but when they're happy they look beautiful.
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And so you see beings in their potential happiness.
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And you feel a love toward them and you want them to be happy, even the enemy.
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We think Jesus is being unrealistic
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when he says, "Love thine enemy."
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He does say that, and we think he's being unrealistic
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and sort of spiritual and highfalutin. "Nice for him to say it, but I can't do that."
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But, actually, that's practical.
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If you love your enemy that means you want your enemy to be happy.
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If your enemy was really happy, why would they bother to be your enemy?
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How boring to run around chasing you.
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They would be relaxing somewhere having a good time.
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So it makes sense to want your enemy to be happy,
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because they'll stop being your enemy because that's too much trouble.
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But anyway, that's the "lovely love. "
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And then finally, the fifth step is compassion, "universal compassion."
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And that is where you then look at the reality of all the beings you can think of.
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And you look at them, and you see how they are.
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And you realize how unhappy they are actually, mostly, most of the time.
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You see that furrowed brow in people.
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And then you realize they don't even have compassion on themselves.
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They're driven by this duty and this obligation.
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"I have to get that. I need more. I'm not worthy. And I should do something."
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And they're rushing around all stressed out.
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And they think of it as somehow macho, hard discipline on themselves.
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But actually they are cruel to themselves.
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And, of course, they are cruel and ruthless toward others.
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And they, then, never get any positive feedback.
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And the more they succeed and the more power they have,
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the more unhappy they are.
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And this is where you feel real compassion for them.
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And you then feel you must act.
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And the choice of the action, of course,
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hopefully will be more practical
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than poor Asanga, who was fixing the maggots on the dog
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because he had that motivation, and whoever was in front of him,
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he wanted to help.
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But, of course, that is impractical. He should have founded the ASPCA in the town
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and gotten some scientific help for dogs and maggots.
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And I'm sure he did that later. (Laughter) But that just indicates the state of mind, you know.
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And so the next step -- the sixth step beyond "universal compassion" --
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is this thing where you're linked with the needs of others in a true way,
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and you have compassion for yourself also,
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and it isn't sentimental only. You might be in fear of something.
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Some bad guy is making himself more and more unhappy
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being more and more mean to other people
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and getting punished in the future for it in various ways.
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And in Buddhism, they catch it in the future life.
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Of course in theistic religion they're punished by God or whatever.
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And materialism, they think they get out of it just by not existing,
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by dying, but they don't.
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And so they get reborn as whatever, you know.
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Never mind. I won't get into that.
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But the next step is called "universal responsibility."
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And that is very important -- the Charter of Compassion
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must lead us to develop through true compassion,
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what is called "universal responsibility."
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In the great teaching of his Holiness the Dalai Lama
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that he always teaches everywhere, he says
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that that is the common religion of humanity: kindness.
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But "kindness" means "universal responsibility."
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And that means whatever happens to other beings is happening to us:
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we are responsible for that, and we should take it
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and do whatever we can at whatever little level
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and small level that we can do it.
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We absolutely must do that. There is no way not to do it.
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And then, finally, that leads to a new orientation in life
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where we live equally for ourselves and for others
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and we are
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joyful and happy.
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One thing we mustn't think is that compassion makes you miserable.
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Compassion makes you happy.
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The first person who is happy when you get great compassion is yourself,
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even if you haven't done anything yet for anybody else.
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Although, the change in your mind already does something for other beings:
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they can sense this new quality in yourself,
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and it helps them already, and gives them an example.
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And that uncompassionate clock has just showed me that it's all over.
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So, practice compassion, read the charter, disseminate it
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and develop it within yourself.
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Don't just think, "Well, I'm compassionate," or "I'm not compassionate,"
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and sort of think you're stuck there.
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You can develop this. You can diminish the non-compassion,
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the cruelty, the callousness, the neglect of others,
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and take universal responsibility for them.
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And then, not only will God smile and the eternal mama will smile,
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but Karen Armstrong will smile.
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Thank you very much. (Applause)
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