Why I study the most dangerous animal on earth -- mosquitoes | Fredros Okumu

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Translator: Solveig Vendelbo Reviewer: Jette Thrane
00:12
I guess because I'm from Tanzania
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Da Tanzania er mit hjemland
00:14
I have a responsibility to welcome all of you once again.
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bør jeg byde Jer velkommen igen.
00:18
Thank you for coming.
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Tak, fordi I kom.
00:19
So, first of all, before we start,
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Før vi begynder -
00:21
how many of you in the audience
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hvor mange af jer
00:22
have been in the past a victim of this bug here?
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har været ofre for insektet her?
00:28
We apologize on behalf of all the mosquito catchers.
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Undskyld på vegne af alle myggefangere.
00:31
(Laughter)
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(Latter)
00:33
Ladies and gentlemen,
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Mine damer og herrer,
00:34
imagine getting seven infectious mosquito bites every day.
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forestil jer at blive bidt af syv inficerede myg om dagen.
00:39
That's 2,555 infectious bites every year.
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Det er 2.555 inficerede myggebid årligt.
00:44
When I was in college, I moved to the Kilombero River valley
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Da jeg gik på universitetet, flyttede jeg til Kilombero floddalen
00:48
in the southeastern part of Tanzania.
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i den sydøstlige del af Tanzania.
00:50
This is historically one of the most malarious zones
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Det var historisk et af de mest malariainficerede områder
00:53
in the world at that time.
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i verden dengang.
00:55
Life here was difficult.
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Livet var svært der.
00:58
In its later stages
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I de sene stadier
01:00
malaria manifested with extreme seizures locally known as degedege.
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viser malaria sig som ekstreme anfald, der lokalt kaldes "degedege".
01:05
It's killed both women and men, adults and children,
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Det har dræbt både kvinder og mænd, voksne og børn,
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without mercy.
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uden nåde.
01:09
My home institution, Ifakara Health Institute,
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Min institution, Ifakara Health Institute,
01:12
began in this valley in the 1950s
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blev grundlagt i denne dal i 1950'erne
01:14
to address priority health needs for the local communities.
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for at afhjælpe presserende helbredsbehov i lokalsamfundene.
01:17
In fact, the name Ifakara refers to a place you go to die,
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Faktisk er "Ifakara" navnet på et sted, hvor man går hen for at dø,
01:22
which is a reflection of what life used to be here
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og det afspejler, hvordan livet plejede at være her
01:24
in the days before organized public health care.
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i dagene før et organiseret offentligt sundhedsvæsen.
01:28
When I first moved here,
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Da jeg flyttede hertil
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my primary role was to estimate
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var min primære rolle at anslå,
01:31
how much malaria transmission was going on across the villages
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hvor ofte malaria blev overført mellem landsbyerne,
01:35
and which mosquitoes were transmitting the disease.
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og hvilke myg, der bar sygdommen.
01:38
So my colleague and myself came
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Min kollega og jeg rejste
01:41
30 kilometers south of Ifakara town across the river.
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30 km syd for Ifakara by, over floden.
01:44
Every evening we went into the villages with flashlights and siphons.
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Hver aften tog vi ind til landsbyerne med lommelygter og hæverter.
01:49
We rolled up our trousers,
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Vi rullede buksebenene op
01:51
and waited for mosquitoes that were coming to bite us
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og ventede på de myg, der kom for at bide os,
01:54
so we could collect them
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så vi kunne indsamle dem
01:56
to check if they were carrying malaria.
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for at se, om de var malariabærere.
01:58
(Laughter)
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(Latter)
01:59
My colleague and myself selected a household,
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Min kollega og jeg udvalgte et hus.
02:01
and we started inside and outside, swapping positions every half hour.
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Vi var både inde og ude og byttede position hver halve time
02:06
And we did this for 12 hours every night for 24 consecutive nights.
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Dét gjorde vi i 12 timer hver nat 24 nætter i træk.
02:11
We slept for four hours every morning
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Vi sov fire timer hver morgen,
02:13
and worked the rest of the day,
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og arbejdede resten af dagen
02:15
sorting mosquitoes, identifying them and chopping off their heads
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med at sortere myg, bestemme dem og kappe hovederne af dem,
02:18
so they could be analyzed in the lab
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så laboratoriet kunne analysere dem
02:19
to check if they were carrying malaria parasites
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for tegn på, at de bar malariaparasitter
02:22
in their blood mouthparts.
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i munddelene.
02:23
This way we were able to not only know how much malaria was going on here
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Herved fandt vi ikke bare ud af, hvor udbredt malaria var,
02:27
but also which mosquitoes were carrying this malaria.
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men også hvilke myg, der bar malariaen.
02:30
We were also able to know
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Vi fandt også ud af,
02:32
whether malaria was mostly inside houses or outside houses.
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om malariaen mest var inden for eller uden for husene.
02:35
Today, ladies and gentlemen, I still catch mosquitoes for a living.
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Mine damer og herrer, jeg lever stadig af at fange myg.
02:39
But I do this mostly to improve people's lives and well-being.
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Jeg gør det mest for at forbedre folks tilværelse
02:44
This has been called by some people the most dangerous animal on earth --
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Nogen kalder den verdens farligste dyr
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which unfortunately is true.
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hvilket desværre er sandt.
02:50
But what do we really know about mosquitoes?
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Men hvad ved vi egentlig om myg?
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It turns out we actually know very little.
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Det viser sig at være meget lidt.
02:58
Consider the fact that at the moment our best practice against malaria
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Det bedste værn vi vi øjeblikket har mod malaria
03:02
are bednets -- insecticide treated bednets.
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er giftbehandlede sengenet.
03:05
We know now that across Africa
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Vi ved nu, at der i hele Afrika
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you have widespread resistance to insecticides.
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er udbredt resistens mod insektgifte.
03:09
And these are the same insecticides,
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Disse insektgifte,
03:11
the pyrethroid class, that are put on these bednets.
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af typen "pyrethroider", bruges på sengenettene.
03:14
We know now that these bednets protect you from bites
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Vi ved nu, at sengenettene beskytter mod bid,
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but only minimally kill the mosquitoes that they should.
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men kun dræber en brøkdel af de myg, de burde.
03:21
What it means is that we've got to do more to be able to get to zero.
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Det betyder, at vi skal gøre mere for at nå nulpunktet
03:25
And that's part of our duty.
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Det er vores ansvar.
03:28
At Ifakara Health Institute
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På Ifakara Health Institute
03:30
we focus very much on the biology of the mosquito,
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fokuserer vi på myggens biologi
03:33
and we try to do this so we can identify new opportunities.
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for at finde nye muligheder.
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A new approach.
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Nye tilgange.
03:38
New ways to try and get new options
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Nye måder at udvikle nye løsninger,
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that we can use together with things such as bednets
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som f.eks. kan bruges sammen med sengenettene
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to be able to get to zero.
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for at nå til nul.
03:45
And I'm going to share with you a few examples
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Jeg viser et par eksempler på
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of the things that my colleagues and myself do.
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ting, mine kolleger og jeg arbejder med.
03:50
Take this, for example.
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For eksempel:
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Mosquitoes breed in small pools of water.
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Myg yngler i små vandpytter,
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Not all of them are easy to find --
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som er svære at finde -
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they can be scattered across villages,
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de kan være spredt i landsbyerne,
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they can be as small as hoofprints.
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og kan være så små som hovspor.
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They can be behind your house or far from your house.
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De kan være lige bag dit hus, eller langt derfra.
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And so, if you wanted to control mosquito larvae,
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Hvis man vil kontrollere antallet af myggelarver,
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it can actually be quite difficult to get them.
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kan det være temmelig svært at finde dem.
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What my colleagues and I have decided to do
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Det, mine kolleger og jeg vil gøre,
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is to think about what if we used mosquitoes themselves
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er et forsøg på at bruge myggene
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to carry the insecticides from a place of our choice
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til at bære insektgiftene fra et bestemt sted
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to their own breeding habitats
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til deres ynglepladser
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so that whichever eggs they lay there shall not survive.
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så æggene ikke overlever.
04:28
This is Dickson Lwetoijera.
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Dette er Dickson Lwetoijera.
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This is my colleague who runs this show at Ifakara.
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Han er min kollega, der styrer dette tiltag i Ifakara.
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And he has demonstrated cleverly that you can actually get mosquitoes
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Han har vist hvordan man lokker myggene
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to come to the place where they normally come to get blood
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til det sted de normalt suger blod
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to pick up a dose of sterilants or insecticide,
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Her får de en dosis sterilisation eller gift,
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carry this back to their own breeding habitat
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som bæres med retur til ynglestedet
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and kill all their progeny.
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og dræber afkommet.
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And we have demonstrated that you can do this
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Vi har vist, at det fungerer
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and crush populations very, very rapidly.
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og dræber bestande meget hurtigt.
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This is beautiful.
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Det er smukt.
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This is our mosquito city.
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Dette er vores mygge-by.
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It is the largest mosquito farm
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Det er den største myggefarm
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available in the world for malaria research.
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i verden, til brug for malariaforskning.
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Here we have large-scale self-sustaining colonies of malaria mosquitoes
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Her har vi store selvbærende kolonier af malariamyg
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that we rear in these facilities.
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som vi opretholder.
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Of course, they are disease-free.
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De er naturligvis ikke smittebærere.
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But what these systems allow us to do
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De tillader os at
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is to introduce new tools and test them immediately,
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afprøve nye metoder og øjeblikkeligt teste dem,
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very quickly,
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hurtigt,
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and see if we can crush these populations or control them in some way.
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og se, om vi kan dræbe eller kontrollere bestandene.
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And my colleagues have demonstrated
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Mine kolleger har påvist,
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that if you just put two or three positions
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at hvis vi blot har to-tre steder,
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where mosquitoes can go pick up these lethal substances,
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hvorfra myggene kan hente disse giftige væsker,
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we can crush these colonies in just three months.
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så kan vi dræbe kolonierne på kun tre måneder.
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That's autodissemination, as we call it.
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Vi kalder det "autodisseminering".
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But what if we could use
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Men tænk, hvis vi kunne bruge
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the mosquitoes' sexual behavior
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myggenes forplantning
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to also control them?
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til at kontrollere dem?
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So, first of all I would like to tell you
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Først må jeg fortælle,
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that actually mosquitoes mate in what we call swarms.
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at myg normalt yngler i sværme.
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Male mosquitoes usually congregate
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Han-myg samles normalt
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in clusters around the horizon, usually after sunset.
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gruppevis i horisonten efter solnedgang.
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The males go there for a dance,
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Hannerne danser
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the females fly into that dance
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og hunnerne flyver ind i dansen
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and select a male mosquito of their choice,
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og vælger en han-myg,
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usually the best-looking male in their view.
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som regel ham, de synes er flottest.
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They clump together and fall down onto the floor.
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De klumper sig sammen og falder til jorden.
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If you watch this, it's beautiful.
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Hvis man ser dette, er det smukt.
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It's a fantastic phenomenon.
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Det er et fantastisk fænomen.
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This is where our mosquito-catching work gets really interesting.
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Her bliver vores mygge-indsamling spændende.
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What we have seen, when we go swarm hunting in the villages,
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Når vi går på rov i sumpe ved landsbyerne ser vi,
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is that these swarm locations tend to be at exactly the same location
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at vandet ofte samler sig de samme steder
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every day, every week, every month,
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dagligt, ugentligt, månedligt,
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year in, year out.
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år efter år.
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They start at exactly the same time of the evening,
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Myggene begynder på det samme tidspunkt,
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and they are at exactly the same locations.
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på de samme steder.
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What does this tell us?
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Hvad betyder det?
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It means that if we can map all these locations across villages,
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Det betyder, at hvis vi kortlægger disse steder i landsbyerne,
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we could actually
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kan vi faktisk
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crush these populations by just a single blow.
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udrydde disse bestande med ét slag.
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Kind of, you know, bomb-spray them or nuke them out.
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Sådan, bombesprøjte eller tilintetgøre dem.
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And that is what we try to do with young men and women
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Det forsøger vi at gøre gennem unge mænd og kvinder
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across the villages.
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i landsbyerne.
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We organize these crews, teach them how to identify the swarms,
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Vi organiserer grupperne, lærer dem at identificere sværmene,
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and spray them out.
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og sprøjte dem ihjel.
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My colleagues and I believe we have a new window
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Mine kolleger og jeg mener, at vi har en ny mulighed
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to get mosquitoes out of the valley.
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for at fjerne myg fra dalen.
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But perhaps the fact that mosquitoes eat blood, human blood,
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Men det, at myg suger menneskeblod
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is the reason they are the most dangerous animal on earth.
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gør dem til verdens farligste dyr.
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But think about it this way --
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Der foregår således:
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mosquitoes actually smell you.
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Myg kan lugte dig.
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And they have developed
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De har udviklet
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incredible sensory organs.
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utrolige sanseorganer.
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They can smell from as far sometimes as 100 meters away.
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De kan lugte op til 100m.
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And when they get closer,
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Og når de nærmer sig,
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they can even tell the difference between two family members.
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kan de kende forskel på to familiemedlemmer.
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They know who you are based on what you produce
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De ved hvem du er, baseret på det, du udskiller
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from your breath, skin, sweat and body odor.
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med din ånde, hud, sved og lugt.
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What we have done at Ifakara
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I Ifakara har vi
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is to identify what it is in your skin, your body, your sweat or your breath
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fundet ud af hvad det er ved din hud, krop, sved eller ånde,
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that these mosquitoes like.
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som myggene synes om.
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Once we identified these substances, we created a concoction,
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Da vi havde fundet ud af det, blandede vi en væske,
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kind of a mixture, a blend of synthetic substances
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en blanding af kunstige stoffer
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that are reminiscent of what you produce from your body.
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som minder om det, din krop udskiller.
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And we made a synthetic blend
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Vi lavede en syntetisk blanding,
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that was attracting three to five times more mosquitoes than a human being.
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der tiltrak 3-5 gange flere myg, end mennesker gør.
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What can you do with this?
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Hvad kan dette bruges til?
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You put in a trap, lure a lot of mosquitoes and you kill them, right?
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Man sætter en fælde, lokker myg til, og dræber dem.
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And of course, you can also use it for surveillance.
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Man kan også bruge det til overvågning.
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At Ifakara
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På Ifakara
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we wish to expand our knowledge on the biology of the mosquito;
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ønsker vi at vide mere om myggens biologi
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to control many other diseases, including, of course, the malaria,
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for at kontrollere de sygdomme foruden malaria,
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but also those other diseases that mosquitoes transmit
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som myg er bærere af.
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like dengue, Chikungunya and Zika virus.
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For eksempel dengue feber, chikungunya og zika virus.
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And this is why my colleagues, for example --
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Derfor har mine kolleger f.eks.
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we have looked at the fact
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set på det faktum
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that some mosquitoes like to bite you on the leg region.
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at nogle myg helst stikker i benene.
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And we've now created these mosquito repellent sandals
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Vi har derfor udviklet sandaler med myggebalsam,
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that tourists and locals can wear when they're coming.
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som turister og lokale kan have på.
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And you don't get bitten --
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Så bliver man ikke bidt,
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this gives you 'round the clock protection
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men har konstant beskyttelse,
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until the time you go under your bednet.
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indtil du kravler under dit sengenet.
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(Applause)
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(Klapsalve)
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My love-hate relationship with mosquitoes continues.
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Mit had-kærlighedsforhold til myg fortsætter.
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(Laughter)
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(Latter)
08:44
And it's going to go a long way, I can see.
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Og det vil sandsynligvis fortsætte længe endnu.
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But that's OK.
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Det er OK.
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WHO has set a goal of 2030 to eliminate malaria from 35 countries.
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Verdenssundhedsorganisationen (WHO) har som mål at udrydde malaria i 35 lande.
08:53
The African Union has set a goal
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Den afrikanske Union har som mål
08:55
of 2030 to eliminate malaria from the continent.
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at udslette malaria fra kontinentet inden 2013.
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At Ifakara we are firmly behind these goals.
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På Ifakara står vi bag disse målsætninger.
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And we've put together a cohort of young scientists,
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Vi har samlet en gruppe unge forskere,
09:04
male and female,
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mænd og kvinder,
09:06
who are champions,
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som kæmper for målene,
09:07
who are interested in coming together to make this vision come true.
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og som ønsker at samarbejde for at nå dem.
09:11
They do what they can
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De gør, hvad de kan
09:13
to make it work.
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for at få det til at lykkes.
09:16
And we are supporting them.
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Og vi støtter dem.
09:18
We are here to make sure that these dreams come true.
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Vi er her for at sikre, at disse drømme opfyldes.
09:21
Ladies and gentlemen,
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Mine damer og herrer,
09:23
even if it doesn't happen in our lifetime,
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selv om det ikke sker i vores levetid,
09:27
even if it doesn't happen
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selv om det ikke sker
09:29
before you and me go away,
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før du og jeg går bort,
09:31
I believe that your child and my child
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er jeg sikker på at vore børn
09:34
shall inherit a world free of malaria transmitting mosquitoes
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arver en verden fri for malariabærende myg
09:37
and free of malaria.
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og fri for malaria.
09:39
Thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen.
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Mange tak, mine damer og herrer.
09:41
(Applause)
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(Klapsalve)
09:45
Thank you.
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Mange tak.
09:46
Kelo Kubu: OK, Fredros.
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Kelo Kubu: Godt, Fredros.
09:48
Let's talk about CRISPR for a bit.
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Lad os tale om CRISPR et øjeblik.
09:50
(Laughter)
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(Latter)
09:52
It's taken the world by storm,
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Det har taget verden med storm,
09:54
it promises to do amazing things.
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og lover at udrette utrolige ting.
09:58
What do you think of scientists using CRISPR to kill off mosquitoes?
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Hvad synes du om, at forskere bruger CRISPR til at dræbe myg?
10:03
Fredros Okumu: To answer this question, let's start from what the problem is.
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Fredros Okumu: Lad os begynde med, hvad problemet er.
10:08
First of all, we're talking about a disease that still kills --
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For det første taler vi om en sygdom, der stadig dræber;
10:12
according to the latest figures we have from WHO --
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det nyeste tal fra Verdenssudhedsorganisationen er
10:14
429,000 people.
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429.000 mennesker.
10:16
Most of these are African children.
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De fleste er afrikanske børn.
10:19
Of course, we've made progress,
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Vi har selvfølgelig gjort fremskridt,
10:21
there are countries that have achieved
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der er lande, der har opnået
10:23
up to 50-60 percent reduction in malaria burden.
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50-60% mindre malaria.
10:26
But we still have to do more to get to zero.
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Men vi er nødt til at gøre mere for at nå til nul.
10:29
There is already proof of principle
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Man har allerede bevist princippet bag teknikker
10:31
that gene-editing techniques, such as CRISPR,
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for genetiske ændringer - såsom CRISPR -
10:34
can be used effectively
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og deres brug til effektivt
10:37
to transform mosquitoes so that either they do not transmit malaria --
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at ændre myg, så de enten ikke bærer malaria -
10:41
we call this population alteration --
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hvilket kaldes populationsændringer -
10:43
or that they no longer exist,
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eller udryddes,
10:46
population suppression.
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kaldet populationshæmning.
10:48
This is already proven in the lab.
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Dette er bevist i laboratorier.
10:50
There is also modeling work
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Der er også modeller,
10:52
that has demonstrated that even if you were to release
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der viser, at selv om man udsætter
10:55
just a small number of these genetically modified mosquitoes,
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bare et lille antal genetisk ændrede myg,
10:58
that you can actually achieve elimination very, very quickly.
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så vil man meget hurtigt opnå udslettelse.
11:01
So, CRISPR and tools like this offer us some real opportunities --
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Redskaber som CRISPR er reelle muligheder
11:05
real-life opportunities to have high-impact interventions
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- gode muligheder for meget virksomme indsatser -
11:09
that we can use in addition to what we have now
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som kan bruges i tilgift til vores andre redskaber
11:12
to eventually go to zero.
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for at nå til nul.
11:14
This is important.
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Det er vigtigt.
11:15
Now, of course people always ask us --
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Folk spørger os altid -
11:18
which is a common question,
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det er et almindeligt spørgsmål,
11:20
I guess you're going to ask this as well --
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så du stiller det sikkert også -
11:22
"What happens if you eliminate mosquitoes?"
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"Hvad så, hvis vi udsletter myg?"
11:24
KK: I won't ask then, you answer.
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KK: Så spørger jeg ikke, svar bare.
11:26
FO: OK. In respect to this, I would just like to remind my colleagues
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FO: OK. Jeg vil blot minde mine kolleger om,
11:30
that we have 3,500 mosquito species in this world.
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at vi har 3.500 myggearter i verden.
11:34
Maybe more than that.
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Måske flere.
11:35
About 400 of these are Anophelenes,
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Cirka 400 af dem er Anopheles,
11:38
and only about 70 of them have any capacity to transmit malaria.
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og kun cirka 70 af disse kan bære malaria.
11:41
In Africa, we're having to deal with three or four of these as the major guys.
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I Afrika skal vi håndtere 3-4 af disse,
11:45
They carry most -- like 99 percent of all the malaria we have.
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som bærer cika 99% af al malaria.
11:49
If we were to go out with gene editing like CRISPR,
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Hvis vi anvendte genetiske ændringer såsom CRISPR,
11:52
if we were to go out with gene drives to control malaria,
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hvis vi brugte genændringer til at kontrollere malaria,
11:55
we would be going after only one or two.
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ville vi kun rette det mod 1-2 arter.
11:57
I don't see a diversity problem with that.
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Det ser jeg intet diversitetsproblem ved.
11:59
But that's personal view.
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Det er min personlige holdning.
12:01
I think it's OK.
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Det synes jeg er i orden.
12:02
And remember, by the way,
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Husk, i øvrigt,
12:03
all these years we've been trying to eliminate these mosquitoes effectively
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at i alle årene, hvor vi har forsøgt at udrydde disse myg
12:07
by spraying them -- our colleagues in America have sprayed with --
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ved at sprøjte dem - vores kolleger i Amerika har sprøjtet dem -
12:11
really bomb-spraying these insects out of the villages.
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virkelig sprøjtebombet for at fjerne dem fra landsbyerne.
12:14
In Africa we do a lot of household spraying.
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I Afrika sprøjter vi mest i husholdningen.
12:17
All these are aimed solely at killing the mosquitoes.
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Alt dette er for at dræbe myg.
12:20
So there's really no problem if we had a new tool.
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Så det er intet problem at have et nyt redskab.
12:22
But having said that, I have to say
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Alligevel må jeg sige,
12:24
we also have to be very, very responsible here.
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at vi skal udvise stor ansvarlighed.
12:26
So there's the regulatory side, and we have to partner with our regulators
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Der er reguleringer og vi må samarbejde med myndighederne
12:30
and make sure that everything that we do is done correctly,
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og sikre, at alt bliver gjort rigtigt,
12:33
is done responsibly
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ansvarligt,
12:34
and that we also have to do independent risk assessments,
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og vi må foretage uafhængige risikovurderinger
12:37
to just make sure
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for at sikre,
12:38
that all these processes do not fall into the wrong hands.
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at alle disse processer ikke falder i de forkerte hænder.
12:42
Thank you very much.
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Mange tak.
12:43
KK: Thank you.
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KK: Mange tak.
12:44
(Applause)
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(Klapsalve)
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