The infamous overpopulation bet: Simon vs. Ehrlich - Soraya Field Fiorio

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譯者: Lilian Chiu 審譯者: Claire Hsu
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In 1980, two American professors bet $1,000
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1980 年,兩位美國教授
將一千美金押在 一個賭注極高的問題上:
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on a question with stakes that couldn’t be higher:
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would the earth run out of resources to sustain a growing human population?
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地球的資源是否會耗盡, 不足以供養持續成長的人口呢?
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One of them was Stanford biologist Paul Ehrlich,
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其中一人是史丹佛的 生物學家保羅艾爾利克,
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who wrote the bestselling 1968 book, “The Population Bomb.”
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他是 1968 年暢銷書 《人口爆炸》的作者。
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The global population had grown rapidly since World War II,
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從二次大戰之後 全球人口就快速成長,
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and Ehrlich predicted that millions would starve to death
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艾爾利克預測,數百萬人將會餓死,
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as the population increased faster than the food supply.
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因為人口成長速度 會超越食物供應成長的速度。
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He drew from the ideas of 18th century economist Thomas Malthus
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他參考了十八世紀經濟學家 托馬斯馬爾薩斯的想法,
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and related work from the 20th century.
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以及二十世紀的相關研究。
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Malthus had posited that population growth,
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馬爾薩斯認為, 人口成長若長期未受控制,
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if unchecked over time, would always outpace food supply.
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必定會超越食物供應的速度。
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Through the 1970s, it seemed like Ehrlich was right:
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從 1970 年代來看, 艾爾利克似乎是對的,
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famines, pollution, and political unrest
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饑荒、污染、政治動盪 導致許多人擔心
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had many concerned that humanity was on the brink of such a crisis,
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人類即將面臨這類危機,
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and some governments considered and even implemented
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有些政府在考慮,甚至也確實實施了
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policies to limit population growth.
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限制人口成長的政策。
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Betting against Ehrlich was Julian Simon, a professor of business and economics.
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和艾爾利克對賭的是朱利安西蒙,
他是商學與經濟學的教授。
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He analyzed historic data from around the world,
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他分析了世界各地的歷史資料,
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and found no correlation between a growing population
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發現人口成長與生活水準下降 之間並沒有關聯──
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and a decrease in standards of living—
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in fact, he found the opposite.
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事實上,他發現情況正好相反。
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He argued that Ehrlich’s work, and that of Malthus before him,
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他主張,艾爾利克 以及更早前馬爾薩斯的研究
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was based on theoretical calculations,
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是以理論計算為根據,
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while the real-world data told a different story.
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但真實世界的資料呈現出不同的現象。
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But then, he departed from the data himself,
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但接著,他自己也偏離了資料,
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claiming human ingenuity would always find alternatives
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主張人類的才智一定會找到替代方案,
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to compensate for diminishing resources.
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來彌補越來越少的資源。
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If that seems overly optimistic to you, well, you're not alone.
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如果你覺得他太過樂觀, 不是只有你會這麼想。
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Ehrlich and other experts found Simon’s claims preposterous.
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艾爾利克和其他專家認為 西蒙的主張十分荒謬。
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In June 1980, Simon wrote a scathing article for Science Magazine
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1980 年 8 月,
西蒙在《科學》期刊上寫了 一篇尖刻的文章,
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that incited a heated debate of published articles between the two men.
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導致這兩人發表文章, 進行激烈的辯論。
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Simon said he should have placed a wager against Ehrlich years before,
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西蒙說他幾年前就應該 和艾爾利克打賭,
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when Ehrlich ventured that,
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那時艾爾利克曾大膽提出
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“England would not exist in the year 2000.”
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「到了 2000 年, 英格蘭將不復存在」。
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Later that year, Simon called Ehrlich a false prophet
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同年晚些時候, 西蒙說艾爾利克是假先知,
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and challenged him to a bet.
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並向他提出打賭。
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Their feud also touched on the debate
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他們的長期爭執中也曾辯論
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about whether to prioritize environmental protections or economic growth,
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環境保護和經濟成長之間, 應優先考量何者,
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a key issue in the American presidential race
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這是卡特和雷根的 美國總統選戰當中的關鍵議題。
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between Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan.
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After some debate, they set the final terms:
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一番爭辯之後, 他們訂下了最終版的條件:
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$200 on the price of each of five metals.
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用兩百美金分別對 五種金屬的價格下注。
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If the price of the metal decreased or held steady over the next decade,
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如果金屬的價格 在接下來的十年中下跌或持平,
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Simon won.
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就是西蒙贏。
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If the price increased, Ehrlich won.
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如果價格上漲,則艾爾利克贏。
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Wait, what?
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等等,什麼?
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Weren’t we talking about overpopulation and famine?
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我們不是在談人口過剩和饑荒嗎?
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What could the price of metals possibly have to do with that?
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那和金屬價格有什麼關係啊?
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Well, the reality is that the price of metals may not have been the best choice—
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嗯,現實而言,
金屬價格可能不是最好的選擇——
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many factors impact these prices that have nothing to do with overpopulation.
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這些價格會受到許多 人口過剩以外的因素影響。
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But their reasoning was as follows: metals are finite natural resources
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但他們的理由如下:
金屬是有限的天然資源,
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used in all sorts of manufacturing.
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用於各種製造過程。
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Ehrlich believed a growing population would consume such finite resources,
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艾爾利克相信,人口成長 會消耗這類有限資源,
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and scarcity would drive the prices up.
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資源變稀少,價格就會上升。
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Simon thought humanity would find substitutes for the metals,
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西蒙認為人類會找到金屬的替代品,
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and the prices would stay stable or even decrease.
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因此價格不會改變,甚至會下跌。
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So, what happened?
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結果如何?
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The world population continued to increase over the next 10 years,
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在接下來的十年間, 世界人口持續成長,
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but the price of all five metals decreased,
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但這五種金屬的價格通通都下跌了,
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making Simon the clear winner of a bet that may not have been a great proxy
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很明顯,西蒙贏了賭注,
不過這賭注不見得能夠 確實反映他們辯論的問題。
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for the question they were debating, anyway.
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As for the question itself, today,
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至於這個問題本身,
現今,他們對人口過剩的關注 代表了歷史的一段縮影。
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their focus on overpopulation represent a snapshot of history.
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Our understanding of what causes starvation and famine has progressed:
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我們對於饑荒成因的了解 已經有所進步:
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we have the resources to support a growing human population,
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我們有資源可以養活不斷增加的人口,
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but we’re currently failing to distribute those resources equitably,
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但目前我們沒有公平分配資源,
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and changing that should be our priority.
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而改善這一點是當務之急。
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And we no longer see population size as a primary cause
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我們不再把人口規模視為
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of environmental degradation and climate change,
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環境惡化和氣候變遷的主因,
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or limiting population growth as a viable solution to these problems.
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也不再把限制人口成長視為 解決這些問題的可行方法。
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Rather, experts largely agree that our focus should be
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反而,專家們普遍認為,
我們的焦點應該放在 以永續的技術取代不永續的做法,
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on replacing unsustainable technologies and practices with sustainable ones,
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and that economic growth and environmental protections
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以及,經濟成長和環境保護
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don’t have to be at odds.
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其實是可以並存的。
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In October 1990, Julian Simon received a check from Paul Ehrlich.
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1990 年 10 月,
朱利安西蒙收到了 保羅艾爾利克的支票。
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There was no note.
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