What makes us get sick? Look upstream | Rishi Manchanda

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翻译人员: Twisted Meadows 校对人员: Min WANG
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For over a decade as a doctor,
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做医生的十年以来,
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I've cared for homeless veterans,
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我治疗过流浪的老兵,
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for working-class families.
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也治疗过工薪阶层的家庭。
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I've cared for people who live and work in conditions
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我治疗过那些生活或工作在
艰苦条件中的人们,
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that can be hard, if not harsh,
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and that work has led me to believe
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这些工作经历让我坚信,
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that we need a fundamentally different way
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我们需要一种新的视角
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of looking at healthcare.
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来看待医疗。
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We simply need a healthcare system
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我们真正需要的医疗卫生系统,
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that moves beyond just looking at the symptoms
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是一个不只把患者接到诊所里,
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that bring people into clinics,
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诊断他们的症状,
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but instead actually is able to look
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而是能够从源头上,
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and improve health where it begins.
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关注和改善人们的健康。
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And where health begins
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is not in the four walls of a doctor's office,
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健康问题不是
从医生的办公室里开始的,
00:46
but where we live
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而是源自我们生活和
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and where we work,
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工作的地方,
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where we eat, sleep, learn and play,
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源自于跟我们的衣食住行 息息相关的地方,
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where we spend the majority of our lives.
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那些我们花费大半生所生活的地方。
00:56
So what does this different approach to healthcare look like,
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那么,这个全新的医疗卫生系统 是怎样的呢?
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an approach that can improve health where it begins?
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什么样的方式可以从源头上 改善我们的健康?
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To illustrate this, I'll tell you about Veronica.
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为了阐明这个问题,让我来和你们 说说Veronica的故事。
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Veronica was the 17th patient
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Veronica是我某天在
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out of my 26-patient day
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洛杉矶南中心诊所接待的
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at that clinic in South Central Los Angeles.
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26位患者中的第17位。
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She came into our clinic with a chronic headache.
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她来我们诊所是因为患有慢性头痛。
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This headache had been going on
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这头痛已持续好几年了,
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for a number of years, and this particular episode
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她这个特殊的病例
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was very, very troubling.
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非常棘手。
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In fact, three weeks before she came to visit us
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事实上,在她第一次来 拜访我们的三周前,
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for the first time, she went to an emergency room in Los Angeles.
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她去过了洛杉矶的一处急诊室。
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The emergency room doctors said,
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急诊室的医生说,
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"We've run some tests, Veronica.
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“我们对你做了些测试,Veronica.
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The results are normal, so here's some pain medication,
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结果很正常, 你可以先吃些头疼药,
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and follow up with a primary care doctor,
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服用后跟基础护理医师进行反馈,
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but if the pain persists or if it worsens,
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但如果疼痛持续或变严重,
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then come on back."
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那就再回来找我们。”
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Veronica followed those standard instructions
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Veronica遵循了这些常规的医疗指示,
之后她又回急诊室来了。
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and she went back.
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01:45
She went back not just once, but twice more.
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她回来不止一次,而是两次。
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In the three weeks before Veronica met us,
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在Veronica与我们见面前的三周里,
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she went to the emergency room three times.
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她已经去过三次急诊室。
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She went back and forth,
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她来来回回地跑,
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in and out of hospitals and clinics,
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反复进出医院和诊所,
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just like she had done in years past,
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就像她在过去几年间所做的一样,
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trying to seek relief but still coming up short.
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她试着寻找解决头疼的方法, 但仍以失败告终。
02:01
Veronica came to our clinic,
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最后,Veronica来到我们的诊所,
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and despite all these encounters with healthcare professionals,
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尽管之前尝试了各种专业医疗手段,
02:06
Veronica was still sick.
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她的病却扔没有好转。
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When she came to our clinic, though, we tried a different approach.
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但当她来我们诊所的时候, 我们尝试了一种不同的方法。
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Our approach started with our medical assistant,
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我们首先得到了医疗助理的帮助,
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someone who had a GED-level training
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她受过GED专业训练 (持有普通教育发展证书),
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but knew the community.
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而且熟悉我们所在的社区。
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Our medical assistant asked some routine questions.
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我们的医疗助理问了一些常规问题。
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She asked, "What's your chief complaint?"
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她问:“你的主要症状是什么?”
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"Headache."
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——“头疼。”
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"Let's get your vital signs" —
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“让我们来测一些重要指标”——
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measure your blood pressure and your heart rate,
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也就是量一量血压,测一测心律,
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but let's also ask something equally as vital
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但也让我们问些同样重要的问题吧,
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to Veronica and a lot of patients like her
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许多像Veronica一样, 居住在洛杉矶南部的病人
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in South Los Angeles.
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都会面临的问题。
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"Veronica, can you tell me about where you live?
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“Veronica,你能告诉我们你住在哪吗?
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Specifically, about your housing conditions?
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特别说明下你的居住条件,好吗?
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Do you have mold? Do you have water leaks?
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家里有发霉吗,有漏水吗?
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Do you have roaches in your home?"
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有蟑螂吗?”
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Turns out, Veronica said yes to three of those things:
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结果,Veronica对其中三个问题的回答 是肯定的:
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roaches, water leaks, mold.
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有蟑螂,房屋漏水,已经发霉。
我拿到了那份记录, 从头至尾又看了一遍,
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I received that chart in hand, reviewed it,
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and I turned the handle on the door
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我推开了门,
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and I entered the room.
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然后进了房间。
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You should understand that Veronica,
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你们要知道,Veronica,
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like a lot of patients that I have the privilege of caring for,
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像我有幸接诊过的大多数病人一样,
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is a dignified person, a formidable presence,
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是一位端庄的女性,一个强大的存在,
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a personality that's larger than life,
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她的人格比生命更宏大。
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but here she was
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但此时此刻她在我的
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doubled over in pain sitting on my exam table.
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体检台上, 却经历着超出常人的痛苦。
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Her head, clearly throbbing, was resting in her hands.
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她抱着头,正忍受着阵阵抽痛。
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She lifted her head up,
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然后,她抬起了头。
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and I saw her face, said hello,
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我看到了她的脸,说了声你好,
接着我马上意识到
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and then I immediately noticed something
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across the bridge of her nose,
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她的鼻梁有些不对劲,
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a crease in her skin.
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那里的皮肤有褶皱。
在医学上,我们称之为“变应性鼻炎”。
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In medicine, we call that crease the allergic salute.
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It's usually seen among children who have chronic allergies.
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它通常见于有慢性过敏的孩子身上。
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It comes from chronically rubbing one's nose up and down,
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孩子为了摆脱过敏症状,
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trying to get rid of those allergy symptoms,
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长期地上下摩擦鼻子从而致病。
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and yet, here was Veronica, a grown woman,
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但现在,这发生在Veronica—— 一位成年女性身上,
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with the same telltale sign of allergies.
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她的身上出现了同样的过敏现象。
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A few minutes later, in asking Veronica some questions,
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在之后的几分钟里, 我问了Veronica一些问题,
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and examining her and listening to her,
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为她做体检,听她讲述病情,
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I said, "Veronica, I think I know what you have.
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我说:“Veronica, 我想我知道是怎么回事了。
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I think you have chronic allergies,
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我觉得是慢性过敏,
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and I think you have migraine headaches and some sinus congestion,
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我猜你还伴有偏头痛和鼻窦充血,
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and I think all of those are related to where you live."
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而这些,在我看来 都和你住的地方有关。”
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She looked a little bit relieved,
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她看上去稍稍宽慰了些,
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because for the first time, she had a diagnosis,
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因为这是她第一次得到了确诊,
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but I said, "Veronica, now let's talk about your treatment.
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但我说:“好,Veronica, 现在让我们来谈谈你的治疗方案。
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We're going to order some medications for your symptoms,
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我们将会为你的症状开些药,
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but I also want to refer you to a specialist, if that's okay."
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但如果可以的话, 我想为你介绍一位专家。”
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Now, specialists are a little hard to find
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时至今日,在洛杉矶中南部
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in South Central Los Angeles,
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已经很难找到专家了,
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so she gave me this look, like, "Really?"
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于是,她看着我, 就像在说:“真的吗?”
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And I said, "Veronica, actually, the specialist I'm talking about
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而我回答道:“事实上,Veronica, 我说的专家
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is someone I call a community health worker,
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是一位社区卫生工作者,
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someone who, if it's okay with you,
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如果方便的话,
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can come to your home
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他可以到你家里来,
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and try to understand what's going on
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试着找出房子漏水、发霉的原因,
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with those water leaks and that mold,
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试着帮你解决这些房屋问题,
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trying to help you manage those conditions in your housing that I think are causing your symptoms,
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我觉得正是这些导致了你的症状,
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and if required, that specialist might refer you
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如果你觉得有必要,那位专家也许
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to another specialist that we call a public interest lawyer,
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会为你引荐另一位专家, 我们称之为公益律师,
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because it might be that your landlord
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因为,也许你的健康问题要归咎于
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isn't making the fixes he's required to make."
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你的房东不愿意掏钱修缮房屋。”
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Veronica came back in a few months later.
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Veronica在几个月后回来了。
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She agreed to all of those treatment plans.
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她对整个治疗计划感到满意。
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She told us that her symptoms had improved by 90 percent.
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她告诉我们, 她的症状已经改善了90%。
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She was spending more time at work
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她可以花更多的时间
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and with her family and less time
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在工作和家庭上了,
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shuttling back and forth between the emergency rooms of Los Angeles.
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也省下了在洛杉矶的 急诊室来回奔波的时间。
Veronica的生活得到了显著改善。
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Veronica had improved remarkably.
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Her sons, one of whom had asthma,
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她还有一个患哮喘的儿子,
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were no longer as sick as they used to be.
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他们病情都得到了缓解。
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She had gotten better, and not coincidentally,
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她的病好多了,同时,理所当然的,
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Veronica's home was better too.
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她的居住环境也变好了。
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What was it about this different approach we tried
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我们所尝试的这种
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that led to better care,
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改善医疗的方式,
更少去急诊室,却可以更健康, 这说明了什么呢?
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fewer visits to the E.R., better health?
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Well, quite simply, it started with that question:
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其实很简单,这始于最初那个问题:
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"Veronica, where do you live?"
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“Veronica,你住在哪儿?”
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But more importantly, it was that we put in place
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但更重要的是,我们建立了一个机制,
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a system that allowed us to routinely ask questions
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通过一些例行的提问,
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to Veronica and hundreds more like her
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对Veronica,和几百名像她一样
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about the conditions that mattered
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生活在那个社区的人的
居住环境加以关注,
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in her community, about where health,
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and unfortunately sometimes illness, do begin
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而那里才是南洛杉矶这样的 地区健康问题
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in places like South L.A.
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甚至是疾病的根源所在。
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In that community, substandard housing
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在这样的社区,劣质的房屋,
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and food insecurity are the major conditions
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食品安全问题可能是我们诊所
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that we as a clinic had to be aware of,
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应该关注的主要问题。
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but in other communities it could be
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但在其他社区,问题可能是
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transportation barriers, obesity,
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交通拥堵、肥胖、
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access to parks, gun violence.
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没有公园、枪支暴力。
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The important thing is, we put in place a system
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重要的是,我们建立的机制
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that worked,
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奏效了,
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and it's an approach that I call an upstream approach.
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——我把它称为“逆流机制“ (upstream approach)。
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It's a term many of you are familiar with.
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你们中许多人可能都熟悉。
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It comes from a parable that's very common
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它来自一个在公共卫生领域里
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in the public health community.
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非常著名的寓言故事。
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This is a parable of three friends.
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这是一则有关”三个朋友“的寓言。
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Imagine that you're one of these three friends
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假设有3个朋友来到河边,
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who come to a river.
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你是其中之一。
河边景色优美, 但却被一个孩子的哭声打破了,
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It's a beautiful scene, but it's shattered by the cries of a child,
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and actually several children, in need of rescue in the water.
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实际是上好几个孩子 都掉进了河里,亟待营救。
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So you do hopefully what everybody would do.
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所以你们本能的做了此刻该做的事。
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You jump right in along with your friends.
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你和朋友们径直跳入河中。
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The first friend says, I'm going to rescue those
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第一个朋友说,我去救那些
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who are about to drown,
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快要淹死的孩子、
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those at most risk of falling over the waterfall.
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那些濒临落下瀑布的孩子。
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The second friends says, I'm going to build a raft.
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第二个朋友说, 那我去造只筏子。
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I'm going to make sure that fewer people
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来确保更少的孩子
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need to end up at the waterfall's edge.
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会漂到瀑布边缘。
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Let's usher more people to safety
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我们用它来把更多的孩子
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by building this raft,
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送到安全地带,
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coordinating those branches together.
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把树枝绑起来(造只筏子)就好。
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Over time, they're successful, but not really,
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时间一分一秒过去, 他们成功救起一些人,
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as much as they want to be.
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但还没达到预期的数量。
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More people slip through, and they finally look up
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激流把更多人冲走了, 当他们终于抬起头时,
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and they see that their third friend
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却发现第三个朋友
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is nowhere to be seen.
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不见了踪影。
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They finally spot her.
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他们最终发现了她。
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She's in the water. She's swimming away from them
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她在水里,她游得越来越远,
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upstream, rescuing children as she goes,
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逆流而上,沿途救起孩子们,
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and they shout to her, "Where are you going?
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然后他们朝她喊:“你要去哪?
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There are children here to save."
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这儿有这么多孩子等待救援。”
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And she says back,
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她回答道:
“我要去找出
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"I'm going to find out
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who or what is throwing these children in the water."
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是谁或什么原因, 让这些孩子掉进了水里。”
06:55
In healthcare, we have that first friend —
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在医疗卫生中心, 我们有第一个朋友——
06:58
we have the specialist,
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我们有专家,
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we have the trauma surgeon, the ICU nurse,
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有创伤外科医师, 有负责重症监护的护士,
07:01
the E.R. doctors.
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We have those people that are vital rescuers,
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还有急诊医生。
我们有这些必要的救援者,
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people you want to be there when you're in dire straits.
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他们是你处于水深火热中时, 最需要的人。
07:08
We also know that we have the second friend —
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我们也知道,我们有第二个朋友——
07:11
we have that raft-builder.
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我们有木筏建造者。
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That's the primary care clinician,
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基础护理临床医生,
07:14
people on the care team who are there
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医疗团队中治疗你的
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to manage your chronic conditions,
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慢性疾病症状的人,
07:18
your diabetes, your hypertension,
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监护你的糖尿病、高血压,
07:19
there to give you your annual checkups,
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他们每年为你进行体检,
07:21
there to make sure your vaccines are up to date,
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确保你接种了最新的疫苗,
07:23
but also there to make sure that you have
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他们同时也确保你有一只木筏,
07:25
a raft to sit on and usher yourself to safety.
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可以随时送你去安全地带的人。
07:28
But while that's also vital and very necessary,
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但与此同时, 很重要也十分必要的是,
07:30
what we're missing is that third friend.
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被我们忽视了的,那第三个朋友。
07:32
We don't have enough of that upstreamist.
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我们并没有足够的那种”逆流而上者“。
07:34
The upstreamists are the health care professionals
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逆流而上者是健康护理专家,
07:36
who know that health does begin
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他们知道健康来自于我们
07:38
where we live and work and play,
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工作、生活、娱乐的地方。
07:40
but beyond that awareness, is able to mobilize
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但他们不仅要能意识到这一点,
07:42
the resources to create the system
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还得有能力调集资源, 在他们的诊所里、医院里
07:45
in their clinics and in their hospitals
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建立起一套系统,
07:46
that really does start to approach that,
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这样才能真正地接近源头,
07:50
to connect people to the resources they need
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把病人和他们需要的资源联系起来
07:52
outside the four walls of the clinic.
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——那些资源可能并不在诊所里。
07:54
Now you might ask, and it's a very obvious question
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现在你也许会问,
07:56
that a lot of colleagues in medicine ask:
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也是许多从医的同事显然会问的问题:
07:59
"Doctors and nurses thinking about transportation and housing?
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“医生和护士还要考虑 交通和住房的问题?
08:02
Shouldn't we just provide pills and procedures
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难道我们不应该只是提供药片和处方
08:04
and just make sure we focus on the task at hand?"
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并且确保自己专注于手头的工作吗?”
08:06
Certainly, rescuing people at the water's edge
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诚然,拯救处于瀑布边缘的人
08:09
is important enough work.
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是足够重要的工作了。
谁还有时间干别的?
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Who has the time?
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08:13
I would argue, though, that if we were to use science as our guide,
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但我会说,即使这样, 如果我们有科学的方法做指导,
08:16
that we would find an upstream approach is absolutely necessary.
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就会发现逆流而上寻找根源 是绝对必要的。
08:19
Scientists now know that
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科学家现在已经了解,
08:21
the living and working conditions that we all
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我们每个人都置身其中的 这个工作和
08:23
are part of
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生活环境,
08:24
have more than twice the impact on our health
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对我们健康的影响,是我们自身
08:27
than does our genetic code,
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基因编码的两倍还要多,
08:29
and living and working conditions,
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而我们的工作生活处境,
08:30
the structures of our environments,
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环境结构组成,
08:32
the ways in which our social fabric is woven together,
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我们的社会网络联结的方式,
08:35
and the impact those have on our behaviors,
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以及它们对我们行为的影响,
08:37
all together, those have more than five times
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这些全部加起来,比医院
08:40
the impact on our health
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和医生开出的
08:41
than do all the pills and procedures
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所有处方和药物
08:43
administered by doctors and hospitals combined.
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对我们健康的影响的五倍还多。
08:45
All together, living and working conditions
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这些所有的,生活和工作条件,
08:48
account for 60 percent of preventable death.
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在可预防的死亡中占了60%。
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Let me give you an example of what this feels like.
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我给你们举个例子吧。
我们假设有一个公司,科技创业公司,
08:54
Let's say there was a company, a tech startup
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that came to you and said, "We have a great product.
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对你说:“我们有了个伟大的产品,
08:58
It's going to lower your risk of death from heart disease."
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可以降低你因心脏病死亡的风险。”
09:01
Now, you might be likely to invest
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那么,你可能会愿意为他们公司投资,
09:03
if that product was a drug or a device,
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开发这么一种新药物或者医疗设备。
09:06
but what if that product was a park?
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但如果他们的产品是一座公园呢?
09:09
A study in the U.K.,
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在英国有一项研究,
09:10
a landmark study that reviewed the records
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——一项里程碑式的研究,
09:12
of over 40 million residents in the U.K.,
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调查了4000万英国居民,
通过控制诸多因素,
09:16
looked at several variables,
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关注了若干变量,最后得出结论:
09:18
controlled for a lot of factors, and found that
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09:20
when trying to adjust the risk of heart disease,
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当我们试图控制、调节心脏病的风险时,
09:24
one's exposure to green space was a powerful influence.
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患者在绿色空间中生活 对其有极大的影响。
09:27
The closer you were to green space,
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你越靠近绿色空间
09:29
to parks and trees,
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——像公园和树木,
09:30
the lower your chance of heart disease,
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你犯心脏病的概率就越小。
09:32
and that stayed true for rich and for poor.
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而这一点,对穷人和富人都一样适用。
09:35
That study illustrates what my friends in public health
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这一研究,证实了我在 公共健康领域的朋友
09:37
often say these days:
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近来常说的话:
一个人的邮政编码,
09:39
that one's zip code matters more
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比他的基因编码更重要。
09:41
than your genetic code.
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09:42
We're also learning that zip code
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我们也知道,邮政编码(地理位置)
09:44
is actually shaping our genetic code.
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实际上也在塑造我们的基因编码。
09:46
The science of epigenetics looks at those molecular mechanisms,
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表观遗传学家观察了分子机制,
09:49
those intricate ways in which our DNA is literally shaped,
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——我们的DNA逐一组合起来的 复杂的方式,
09:52
genes turned on and off
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基因的激活和休眠,
09:54
based on the exposures to the environment,
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是基于所暴露的环境,
09:56
to where we live and to where we work.
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基于我们生活和工作的地方。
09:59
So it's clear that these factors,
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所以显而易见的是,这些因素
10:01
these upstream issues, do matter.
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这些逆流而上的问题,确实重要。
10:03
They matter to our health,
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它们关乎我们的健康,
因此我们的医疗卫生人员 应该在这方面有所作为。
10:05
and therefore our healthcare professionals should do something about it.
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10:07
And yet, Veronica asked me
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然而,Veronica也问了我一个
也许是最值得注意的问题,
10:09
perhaps the most compelling question
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10:10
I've been asked in a long time.
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这问题被问过很多次了。
10:11
In that follow-up visit, she said,
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在那次随访中,她说:
10:13
"Why did none of my doctors
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“为什么之前那些医生
10:15
ask about my home before?
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从未问过我的住房情况?
10:18
In those visits to the emergency room,
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我去急诊室的时候,
10:21
I had two CAT scans,
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做过2次CAT扫描,
10:22
I had a needle placed in the lower part of my back
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他们还在我背部下方插了根针
10:24
to collect spinal fluid,
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收集脊髓液,
10:26
I had nearly a dozen blood tests.
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还做了一大堆血液测试。
10:27
I went back and forth, I saw all sorts of people in healthcare,
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我来来回回地跑, 找过医疗卫生中心所有类别的医师,
10:30
and no one asked about my home."
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却没有任何人询问过我的住宅情况。“
10:34
The honest answer is that in healthcare,
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坦率地说,这是因为在医疗卫生中心,
10:36
we often treat symptoms without addressing
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在治疗病症时,我们通常不将
10:38
the conditions that make you sick in the first place.
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导致你生病的环境因素放在首位考虑。
10:41
And there are many reasons for that, but the big three
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有很多因素导致了这一现象, 说三个主要的,
10:43
are first, we don't pay for that.
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排在第一的是,这么做不赚钱。
10:47
In healthcare, we often pay for volume and not value.
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在医疗卫生中心,我们通常 根据”数量“而非”质量“来支付报酬。
10:51
We pay doctors and hospitals usually
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我们根据医院和医生
10:52
for the number of services they provide,
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提供服务的次数来付钱,
10:54
but not necessarily on how healthy they make you.
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而不是取决于他们使你变得多健康。
10:58
That leads to a second phenomenon that I call
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这导致了第二个现象,我叫它
11:00
the "don't ask, don't tell" approach
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在医疗卫生系统里,关于逆流问题的
11:01
to upstream issues in healthcare.
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”别问,别说“倾向。
11:04
We don't ask about where you live and where you work,
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我们不问你住在哪儿,在哪儿工作,
11:06
because if there's a problem there,
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因为如果那儿有问题,
11:07
we don't know what to tell you.
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我们都不知道该如何解释。
11:10
It's not that doctors don't know these are important issues.
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医生不是不知道这些问题有多重要。
11:13
In a recent survey done in the U.S. among physicians,
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在最近一次对美国医生进行的调查中,
11:15
over 1,000 physicians,
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超过1000位受访医生中
11:16
80 percent of them actually said that
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80%的人确实表示,
11:18
they know that their patients' upstream problems
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他们知道患者的”上游问题“
11:20
are as important as their health issues,
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和他们的健康问题一样重要,
11:22
as their medical problems,
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和医疗问题一样重要。
11:24
and yet despite that widespread awareness
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然而,尽管对上游问题的
11:26
of the importance of upstream issues,
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重要性有着普遍共识,
11:28
only one in five doctors said they had
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只有五分之一的医生说
11:30
any sense of confidence to address those issues,
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他们有自信能解决这些问题,
11:33
to improve health where it begins.
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从源头上改善患者健康。
11:35
There's this gap between knowing
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在了解患者的生活,
11:36
that patients' lives, the context of where they live and work,
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他们居住、工作的环境, 遇到的问题,
11:39
matters, and the ability to do something about it
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以及我们现有的医疗系统 做提供的帮助,
11:42
in the systems in which we work.
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这二者之间的供求严重不匹配。
11:43
This is a huge problem right now,
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现在,这已经成为一个大问题了,
因为这将人们引向了 下一个问题,那就是:
11:46
because it leads them to this next question, which is,
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11:48
whose responsibility is it?
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”谁应该对此负责?“
11:49
And that brings me to that third point,
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而这就将我带到了第三点,
11:51
that third answer to Veronica's compelling question.
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Veronica那个引人注目的问题的 第三个答案。
11:54
Part of the reason that we have this conundrum
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导致我们困境的一部分原因,
11:56
is because there are not nearly enough upstreamists
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是因为在医疗系统中没有足够的
12:00
in the healthcare system.
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逆流而上者。
我们没有足够多的那种”第三位朋友“,
12:02
There are not nearly enough of that third friend,
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12:04
that person who is going to find out
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那位要去找出
12:05
who or what is throwing those kids in the water.
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是谁或什么原因, 让这些孩子掉进了水里的人。
12:08
Now, there are many upstreamists,
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现在,出现了许多逆流而上者,
12:10
and I've had the privilege of meeting many of them,
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我有幸可以在洛杉矶
12:12
in Los Angeles and in other parts of the country
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或国内其他地区,
12:15
and around the world,
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以及世界各地见到他们,
12:17
and it's important to note that upstreamists
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值得指出的是,逆流而上者,
12:19
sometimes are doctors, but they need not be.
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可能是医生,但并不一定是。
12:22
They can be nurses, other clinicians,
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他们也可以是护士、 别的卫生工作者、
12:24
care managers, social workers.
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护理管理者、社会工作者。
12:26
It's not so important what specific degree
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逆流而上者不需要
12:28
upstreamists have at the end of their name.
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有什么特定的头衔。
12:30
What's more important is that they all seem
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更重要的是他们都具备
12:32
to share the same ability to implement a process
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相同的能力,可以去推动
12:36
that transforms their assistance,
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医疗系统改革的过程,
12:38
transforms the way they practice medicine.
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改变他们医学实践的方式。
12:40
That process is a quite simple process.
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这一过程十分简单,
12:42
It's one, two and three.
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它就是:一,二,三。
第一步,他们坐下来,说
12:44
First, they sit down and they say,
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12:46
let's identify the clinical problem
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“让我们从一群特定患者中找出
12:48
among a certain set of patients.
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共同存在的临床问题。”
12:49
Let's say, for instance,
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比如说,
“让我们试着去帮助那些
12:51
let's try to help children
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12:53
who are bouncing in and out of the hospital
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反复进出医院的
12:55
with asthma.
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哮喘儿童。
一旦抓住了问题的实质, 他们就进入“第二步”,
12:57
After identifying the problem, they then move on to that second step,
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12:59
and they say, let's identify the root cause.
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然后他们说, “让我们找到问题的根源。”
好,问题根源分析,在医疗卫生领域,
13:02
Now, a root cause analysis, in healthcare,
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13:06
usually says, well, let's look at your genes,
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他们经常会说, “好吧,让我们看看你的基因,
13:07
let's look at how you're behaving.
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再让我们看看你的生活方式如何。
13:10
Maybe you're not eating healthy enough.
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也许你吃得不够健康。
赶紧改善饮食吧!”
13:12
Eat healthier.
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13:13
It's a pretty simplistic
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这是一种过于简化的
13:14
approach to root cause analyses.
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分析根源的方法。
13:16
It turns out, it doesn't really work
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事实上,如果我们只把自己的视野
13:17
when we just limit ourselves that worldview.
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限制于此, 这种治疗就起不到什么作用。
13:20
The root cause analysis that an upstreamist brings
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逆流而上者做的 问题根源分析是这样的:
13:22
to the table is to say, let's look at the living
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“让我们看看你生活和
13:24
and the working conditions in your life.
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工作的环境怎么样。”
13:27
Perhaps, for children with asthma,
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也许,对患有哮喘的孩子们来说,
13:29
it's what's happening in their home,
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可能是他们家里有什么问题,
13:31
or perhaps they live close to a freeway with major air pollution
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或他们住的离高速公路比较近, 那里空气污染严重,
13:34
that triggers their asthma.
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会引发他们的哮喘。
13:36
And perhaps that's what we should mobilize our resources to address,
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也许这正是我们应该 调集资源去解决的,
13:38
because that third element, that third part of the process,
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因为那第三个元素, 这个过程中的“第三步”,
13:41
is that next critical part of what upstreamists do.
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也就是逆流而上者将要采取的 关键步骤。
13:43
They mobilize the resources to create a solution,
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他们调集资源来设计一个解决方案,
13:45
both within the clinical system,
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不仅仅是在临床医学系统,
13:47
and then by bringing in people from public health,
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还要从公共卫生系统,
13:50
from other sectors, lawyers,
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从其他领域,找律师等等,
13:51
whoever is willing to play ball,
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任何一个愿意出一份力的人,
13:53
let's bring in to create a solution that makes sense,
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把他们都集中到一起, 设计一个有效的解决方案,
13:55
to take those patients who actually have clinical problems
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去找出病人的问题根源,
13:58
and address their root causes together
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将他们与需要的资源连接起来,
14:00
by linking them to the resources you need.
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从而合力解决医疗中的根源问题。
14:02
It's clear to me that there are so many stories
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对我来说,很显然, 逆流而上者做出的
14:04
of upstreamists who are doing remarkable things.
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引人注目的成就数不胜数。
14:07
The problem is that there's just not nearly enough of them out there.
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问题是, 这样的逆流而上者还是不够多。
14:09
By some estimates, we need one upstreamist
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经过估算,我们认为医疗卫生系统中
14:12
for every 20 to 30 clinicians in the healthcare system.
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每20到30位患者就需要一位逆流而上者。
14:15
In the U.S., for instance, that would mean
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例如,在美国,这意味着
14:16
that we need 25,000 upstreamists
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到2020年时我们将需要25000个
14:18
by the year 2020.
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逆流而上者。
但我们现在只有几千个逆流而上者, 数来数去只有这么多,
14:22
But we only have a few thousand upstreamists out there right now, by all accounts,
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14:26
and that's why, a few years ago, my colleagues and I
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这就是为何, 几年前我和我的同事会说:
14:28
said, you know what, we need to train
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你们知道吗,我们需要训练和培养
14:30
and make more upstreamists.
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更多的逆流而上者。
14:32
So we decided to start an organization
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所以我们决定发起一个叫
14:34
called Health Begins,
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”健康起航”(Health Begins)的组织,
14:36
and Health Begins simply does that:
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任务很简单:
我们训练逆流而上者。
14:38
We train upstreamists.
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14:39
And there are a lot of measures that we use for our success,
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我们有很多种衡量自己成就的方式,
14:41
but the main thing that we're interested in
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但我们最关注的是
14:42
is making sure that we're changing
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确保我们在改变
14:44
the sense of confidence,
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医疗领域的信心,
也就是改变临床医师中的 “别问,别说”现象。
14:46
that "don't ask, don't tell" metric among clinicians.
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14:48
We're trying to make sure that clinicians,
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我们正在试着让医师
14:50
and therefore their systems that they work in
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及他们所在的医疗卫生系统,
14:52
have the ability, the confidence
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有能力和自信,
14:54
to address the problems in the living
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去找出那些来自我们的
14:57
and working conditions in our lives.
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生活、工作环境里的问题。
15:00
We're seeing nearly a tripling
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我们正在我们的工作中,
15:02
of that confidence in our work.
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见证着三倍于那样的自信。
15:03
It's remarkable,
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这是个非凡的成就,
15:05
but I'll tell you the most compelling part
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但我要说,与逆流而上者共事,
15:07
of what it means to be working
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将他们的力量聚集起来
15:08
with upstreamists to gather them together.
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所蕴含的意义是最鼓舞人心的部分。
15:13
What is most compelling is that every day,
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最令人兴奋的是,每天、每周,
15:15
every week, I hear stories just like Veronica's.
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我都会听到像Veronica一样的故事。
15:19
There are stories out there of Veronica
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有很多和Veronica相似的故事,
15:21
and many more like her,
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甚至越来越多,
15:23
people who are coming to the healthcare system
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那些前来医疗卫生中心的人们
15:25
and getting a glimpse of what it feels like
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正实际地体验着
15:26
to be part of something that works,
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我们的工作成果,
15:29
a health care system that stops bouncing you back and forth
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这个医疗卫生系统 不再来来回回地折腾你,
15:31
but actually improves your health,
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而是能够实际改善你的健康,
15:33
listens to you who you are,
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倾听你的故事,
15:34
addresses the context of your life,
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了解你的生活经历,
无论你是富人,还是穷人,或者中产阶级。
15:37
whether you're rich or poor or middle class.
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15:41
These stories are compelling because
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这些故事令人印象深刻,是因为
15:43
not only do they tell us that we're this close
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它们不仅让我们知道了我们的工作
15:45
to getting the healthcare system that we want,
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已经如此接近理想的医疗系统,
15:47
but that there's something that we can all do to get there.
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还让我们知道了要如何实现这个目标。
15:50
Doctors and nurses can get better at asking
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医护人员通过询问患者的生活情况,
15:52
about the context of patients' lives,
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可以更好地为他们服务,
15:54
not simply because it's better bedside manner,
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不仅仅因为更好的问诊态度,
15:56
but frankly, because it's a better standard of care.
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坦率地说, 还因为这代表着更高水准的医疗方式。
15:59
Healthcare systems and payers
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医疗卫生系统和纳税人可以共同
16:02
can start to bring in public health agencies
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建立相关的公共卫生机构和部门,
16:04
and departments and say,
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然后说:
让我们共享数据。
16:06
let's look at our data together.
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16:07
Let's see if we can discover some patterns in our data about our patients' lives
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看看能否从患者的生活数据上 找出一些端倪,
16:11
and see if we can identify an upstream cause,
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从而诊断出上游的诱因,
16:13
and then, as importantly, can we align the resources
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然后,同样重要的,能否调整社会资源
16:16
to be able to address them?
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来解决这些问题?
16:18
Medical schools, nursing schools,
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医学院校,护理学校,
16:20
all sorts of health professional education programs
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所有医疗卫生专业教育项目
16:22
can help by training the next generation of upstreamists.
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都能够通过训练新一代的 逆流而上者来帮助我们。
我们也很确定,这些学校
16:26
We can also make sure that these schools
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16:27
certify a backbone of the upstream approach,
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将成为“逆流机制”的中坚力量,
16:31
and that's the community health worker.
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那将是一个先进卫生工作者的群体。
16:33
We need many more of them in the healthcare system
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我们的医疗卫生系统里 需要很多这样的人,
16:34
if we're truly going to have it be effective,
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——如果我们确实想让它变得更高效,
16:37
to move from a sickcare system
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让它从一个“只关心病痛”的系统,
16:38
to a healthcare system.
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转变成一个“关注健康”的系统。
16:40
But finally, and perhaps most importantly,
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但最终,也许是最重要的是:
16:42
what do we do? What do we do as patients?
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我们能做些什么? 作为患者该应该怎么做?
16:44
We can start by simply going to our doctors
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很简单,当我们到诊所时,
16:47
and our nurses, to our clinics,
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面对我们的医生、护士,
16:48
and asking, "Is there something in where I live
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我们可以问:“我居住和工作的地方
16:51
and where I work that I should be aware of?"
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有没有什么值得注意的?”
16:53
Are there barriers to health that I'm just not aware of,
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是否存在一些被我忽视的 影响我健康的细节?
16:56
and more importantly, if there are barriers
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而更重要的是, 如果真的存在一些问题,
16:58
that I'm surfacing, if I'm coming to you
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我已经察觉到了,然后找到医生说:
17:00
and I'm saying I think have a problem with
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我觉得我的公寓或者办公环境
17:02
my apartment or at my workplace
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可能有些问题,
17:04
or I don't have access to transportation,
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或者我家附近交通不便,
17:06
or there's a park that's way too far,
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或是,那个公园离我家太远,
17:08
so sorry doctor, I can't take your advice
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抱歉,医生, 我无法听从你的建议,
17:10
to go and jog,
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每天去公园慢跑。
17:12
if those problems exist,
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如果这些问题真的存在,
17:14
then doctor, are you willing to listen?
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那么,医生,你愿意去倾听吗?
17:17
And what can we do together
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我们能彼此配合
17:18
to improve my health where it begins?
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从根源上改善我的健康吗?
17:21
If we're all able to do this work,
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如果我们都能做到这些,
17:23
doctors and healthcare systems,
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从医生,到医疗系统,
17:25
payers, and all of us together,
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到纳税人,我们所有人一起,
17:27
we'll realize something about health.
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就能实现一种不同以往的健康状况。
17:29
Health is not just a personal responsibility or phenomenon.
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健康不仅是患者个人的责任或现象。
健康是共同利益。
17:33
Health is a common good.
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17:36
It comes from our personal investment in knowing
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它来自我们的个人生活投资,
17:38
that our lives matter,
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要认识到:生活是不能将就的,
17:40
the context of where we live and where we work,
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我们居住与工作的环境、
17:42
eat, and sleep, matter,
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饮食、睡眠…它们都很重要,
17:44
and that what we do for ourselves,
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而这些我们为自己做的事,
17:46
we also should do for those
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同样也应该为那些
17:48
whose living and working conditions
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生活和工作环境
相对比较艰苦的人去做。
17:50
again, can be hard, if not harsh.
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17:53
We can all invest in making sure that we improve
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当然,我们都可以寄希望于
17:55
the allocation of resources upstream,
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能提升”上游“资源的分配。
17:57
but at the same time work together
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但同时,我们可以协同合作,
17:59
and show that we can move healthcare
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来证明,我们能让医疗卫生系统 ”逆流而上“地
18:02
upstream.
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解决问题。
18:04
We can improve health where it begins.
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我们可以从根源上改善健康。
18:07
Thank you.
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谢谢。
(掌声)
18:09
(Applause)
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