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翻译人员: Chris Zong
校对人员: Kerry Chen
00:12
Two years ago, I set off
from central London on the Tube
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两年前,我在伦敦中心区乘坐地铁
00:16
and ended up somewhere
in the east of the city
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到了东伦敦的某处,
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walking into a self-storage unit
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我走进一间自存仓,
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to meet a guy that had
2,000 luxury polo shirts for sale.
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会见一个有2000件高档
Polo衫出售的家伙。
00:25
And as I made my way down the corridor,
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当时我从走廊往下走,
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a broken, blinking light made it
just like the cliche scene
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一盏坏了的,不停闪烁的灯
使这一切看起来
00:30
from a gangster movie.
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像是某部黑帮电影中的惯用情节。
00:32
Our man was early,
and he was waiting for me
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我要见的人早到了,他正等着我,
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in front of a unit secured
with four padlocks down the side.
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他的背后是一个周边
装着四把锁扣的柜子。
00:38
On our opening exchange,
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在我们开始的谈话里,
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it was like a verbal sparring match
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我们就像参加了一场争吵比赛,
00:41
where he threw the first punches.
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他率先向我挥出重击。
00:43
Who was I?
Did I have a business card?
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我是谁? 我有名片吗?
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And where was I going to sell?
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我准备去哪卖这些货?
00:47
And then, he just started opening up,
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然后,既然他开了场,
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and it was my turn.
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现在轮到我了。
00:52
Where were the polo shirts coming from?
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这些Polo衫都是哪来的?
00:54
What paperwork did he have?
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你有什么文件吗?
00:56
And when was his next shipment
going to arrive?
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他的下批货什么时候到?
00:59
I was treading the fine line
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我当时正划出一条界线,
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between asking enough questions
to get what I needed
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这条线能让我问足够多
的问题来知道我需要的,
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and not enough for him
to become suspicious,
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同时也不会多到让他生疑。
01:05
because what he didn't know
is that I'm a counterfeit investigator,
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因为他不知道的是,
我是一个假货调查员。
01:10
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
01:11
and after 20 minutes or so
of checking over the product
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在花了大约20分钟
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for the telltale signs
of counterfeit production --
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检查产品是假货的证据——
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say, badly stitched labels
or how the packaging
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比如,缝纫糟糕的标签
01:20
had a huge brand logo
stamped all over the front of it --
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或者包装上面有一个巨大
的品牌商标——之后,
01:23
I was finally on my way out,
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我终于从那里出来了,
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but not before he insisted
on walking down to the street with me
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但是是在他坚持陪着我走到街道上,
01:28
and back to the station.
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再回到那间自存仓之后。
01:31
And the feeling after these meetings
is always the same:
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所有这类会见的感觉都是一样的:
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my heart is beating like a drum,
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我的心跳加速,
01:36
because you never know
if they've actually bought your story,
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因为你不知道他们
是不是听信了你所说的,
01:38
or they're going to start following you
to see who you really are.
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或者他们会不会跟踪你,
看看你到底是谁。
01:42
Relief only comes
when you turn the first corner
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当你拐过第一个路口时,
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and glance behind,
and they're not standing there.
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瞥瞥后面,确定他们
没站在那,你才能松一口气。
01:48
But what our counterfeit
polo shirt seller certainly didn't realize
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不过我们的假冒Polo衫
卖家没想到的是,
所有我看到和听到的,会导致
一场黎明时分针对他房子的突袭,
01:51
is that everything I'd seen and heard
would result in a dawn raid on his house,
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他被8个出现在家门口
的男人从床上弄醒,
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him being woken out of bed
by eight men on his doorstep
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01:57
and all his product seized.
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他所有的产品被查封了。
02:00
But this would reveal
that he was just a pawn
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但是不久我们发现他不过是
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at the end of a counterfeiting network
spanning three continents,
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一个横跨三大洲假货集团
末端的一个小卒子。
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and he was just the first loose thread
that I'd started to pull on
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他只是我希望解开而开始着手
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in the hope that it would all unravel.
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拉出的线团的第一根线。
02:13
Why go through all that trouble?
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干嘛弄得那么麻烦呢?
02:16
Well, maybe counterfeiting
is a victimless crime?
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毕竟,也许造假只是一种
不怎么伤害人的罪行?
02:19
These big companies,
they make enough money,
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这些大公司赚的钱够多了,
02:21
so if anything,
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如果真要说有什么的话,
02:22
counterfeiting is just a free form
of advertising, right?
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造假也算是打了个免费广告,对吧?
02:26
And consumers believe just that --
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消费者也相信
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that the buying and selling of fakes
is not that big a deal.
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买卖假货不是什么大不了的事。
02:32
But I'm here to tell you
that that is just not true.
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但我想告诉你们,事实不是这样。
02:36
What the tourist on holiday doesn't see
about those fake handbags
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假日里购物的游客看不到的是,
02:40
is they may well
have been stitched together
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这些假包可能是由一个孩子缝制的,
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by a child who was trafficked
away from her family,
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而这个孩子是从家里被绑架的,
02:46
and what the car repair shop
owner doesn't realize
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修车店老板没注意到的是,
02:49
about those fake brake pads
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这些假冒的刹车片
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is they may well be lining the pockets
of an organized crime gang
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可能正在充实从事毒品,妓女交易的
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involved in drugs and prostitution.
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组织犯罪帮派的钱包。
02:57
And while those two things
are horrible to think about,
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如果这两件事听起来已经够可怕了,
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it gets much worse,
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还有更可怕的,
03:03
because counterfeiting
is even funding terrorism.
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因为假货甚至还在资助恐怖主义。
03:07
Let that sink in for a moment.
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让我来详细说明一下。
03:09
Terrorists are selling fakes
to fund attacks,
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恐怖分子一直在通过
出售假货来资助恐怖袭击,
03:12
attacks in our cities
that try to make victims of all of us.
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在我们城市的恐怖袭击,
想要伤害我们所有人。
03:17
You wouldn't buy a live scorpion,
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你不会买只活蝎子,
03:19
because there's a chance
that it would sting you on the way home,
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因为在你回家的路上
有可能它会蜇你一下。
03:22
but would you still buy a fake handbag
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但你是否还是会买一个假包,
03:24
if you knew the profits
would enable someone to buy bullets
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当你知道这笔交易
的利润将资助某个人
03:28
that would kill you and other
innocent people six months later?
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在六个月后去买子弹
杀掉你和另外一些无辜的人?
03:32
Maybe not.
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也许你不会再买了。
03:34
OK, time to come clean.
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下面我要澄清一下。
03:36
In my youth --
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在我年轻时,
03:37
yeah, I might look like I'm still
clinging on to it a bit --
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是的,我也许看起来
好像还挺年轻——
03:40
I bought fake watches
while on holiday in the Canary Islands.
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我在加那利群岛度假时买过假表。
03:44
But why do I tell you this?
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我为什么告诉你们这些?
03:46
Well, we've all done it,
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我们其实都买过假货,
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or we know someone that's done it.
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或者我们知道有人买过假货,
03:50
And until this very moment,
maybe you didn't think twice about it,
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直到此时此刻你也许
没再想起过这回事,
03:54
and nor did I,
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我也一样,
03:55
until I answered a 20-word cryptic advert
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直到我回应了一个20个字
的神秘招聘广告,
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to become an intellectual
property investigator.
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成为了一个知识产权调查员。
04:02
It said "Full training given
and some international travel."
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广告里说”提供完整培训
和一些国际旅行机会“。
04:05
Within a week, I was creating
my first of many aliases,
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在一周之内,我就编了
我众多假名字中的第一个假名,
04:08
and in the 10 years since,
I've investigated fake car parts,
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在那之后的十年里,
04:12
alloy wheels, fake pet grooming tools,
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我调查过假冒汽车配件,
假冒合金轮毂,
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fake bicycle parts,
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假冒宠物清洁工具,
假冒自行车配件,
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and, of course,
the counterfeiter's favorite,
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当然,还有造假者的最爱,
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fake luxury leather goods,
clothing and shoes.
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假冒的奢侈皮革制品,衣服和鞋子。
04:23
And what I've learned in the 10 years
of investigating fakes
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我在这十年调查假货
的经验里学到的是,
04:25
is that once you start
to scratch the surface,
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一旦你开始撕破表面那一层,
04:28
you find that they are rotten to the core,
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你就会发现售假牟利
04:30
as are the people and organizations
that are making money from them,
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的这些人和组织,其内部已经腐烂了,
04:35
because they are profiting
on a massive, massive scale.
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因为这个行当的利润惊人。
04:39
You can only make
around a hundred to 200 percent
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在街上卖毒品,
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selling drugs on the street.
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你只能挣到1倍到2倍的利润。
04:43
You can make 2,000 percent
selling fakes online
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在网上卖假货,你能挣到20倍的利润,
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with little of the same
risks or penalties.
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相比卖毒品风险或惩罚小得多。
04:50
And this quick, easy money
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这种快而容易的钱
04:52
then goes on to fund
the more serious types of crime,
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开始去资助很多真正的犯罪,
04:54
and it pays the way
to making these organizations,
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而且这种钱使得这些犯罪组织
04:57
these criminal organizations,
look more legitimate.
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看起来更合法。
05:00
So let me bring you in on a live case.
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让我给你们讲一个真实的案例。
05:03
Earlier this year,
a series of raids took place
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今年早些时候,在我所
参与的时间最长的一次调查中,
05:05
in one of my longest-running
investigations.
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进行了一系列的突袭行动。
05:08
Five warehouses were raided in Turkey,
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在土耳其有5间仓库被扫荡了,
05:11
and over two million finished
counterfeit clothing products were seized,
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有超过2百万的假冒成品服装制被查封,
05:15
and it took 16 trucks
to take that all away.
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当时用了16辆卡车来运走它们。
05:19
But this gang had been clever.
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但是这次的犯罪组织很聪明,
05:20
They had gone to the lengths
of creating their own fashion brands,
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他们费尽心机创造了
他们自己的服装品牌,
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complete with registered trademarks,
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完成了商标注册,
05:26
and even having photo shoots
on yachts in Italy.
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甚至还在意大利的游艇上拍好了照片。
05:31
And they would use these completely
unheard-of and unsuspicious brand names
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他们想利用这些
完全没听过的可疑品牌
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as a way of shipping
container loads of fakes
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来运输装满假货的集装箱,
05:37
to shell companies
that they'd set up across Europe.
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运到他们在欧洲建立的空壳公司。
05:40
And documents found during those raids
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这些突袭行动中发现的文件
05:42
found that they'd been falsifying
shipping documents
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显示他们已经伪造好了船务文件,
05:46
so the customs officials
would literally have no idea
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这样海关关员从这些文件上是找不到
05:49
who had sent the products
in the first place.
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到底是谁从一开始发出了这些货物。
05:51
When police got access
to just one bank account,
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警察只是查询了一个银行户口,
05:54
they found nearly three million euros
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就发现了差不多3百万欧元的款项
05:56
had been laundered out of Spain
in less than two years,
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在不到两年的时间内
就从西班牙被洗出去。
05:59
and just two days after those raids,
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这些突袭行动结束仅仅两天之后,
06:01
that gang were trying to bribe a law firm
to get their stock back.
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涉事的犯罪组织试着去贿赂
一家律师行,把他们的货物弄回来。
06:06
Even now, we have no idea
where all that money went,
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即使现在,我们也不知道
那些钱都去了哪,
06:09
to who it went to,
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汇到了谁那里,
06:11
but you can bet it's never going
to benefit the likes of you or me.
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但是你肯定知道这些钱
是不会惠及比如你和我这样的人的。
06:15
But these aren't just
low-level street thugs.
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这些可不是街头低段位的混混。
06:18
They're business professionals,
and they fly first class.
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他们是专业的商务人士,
都是坐头等舱的人物,
06:21
They trick legitimate businesses
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他们利用假发票和文件
06:23
with convincing fake invoices
and paperwork,
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使自己看起来像在做合法生意,
06:26
so everything just seems real,
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所有的事看起来都和真的一样,
06:28
and then they set up eBay
and Amazon accounts
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他们还建立了Ebay和亚马逊账户
06:31
just to compete with the people
they've already sold fakes to.
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来和那些已经买了他们货的人竞争。
06:35
But this isn't just happening online.
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这些事可不是只发生在网络上。
06:38
For a few years, I also used to attend
automotive trade shows
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几年前,我经常参加一些
在巨大展览场地
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taking place in huge exhibition spaces,
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举行的汽车展,
06:45
but away from the Ferraris
and the Bentleys and the flashing lights,
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在远离法拉利,宾利和闪光灯的地方
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there'd be companies selling fakes:
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也有公司在售卖假货。
06:50
companies with a brochure on the counter
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在展台上放着一本目录册的公司,
06:53
and another one underneath,
if you ask them the right questions.
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如果你问他们正确的问题,
那么私底下他们还有另外一家公司。
06:56
And they would sell me fake car parts,
faulty fake car parts
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他们会卖给我假冒的
有问题的汽车配件,
06:59
that have been estimated to cause
over 36,000 fatalities,
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而这种配件据估计已经造成了
07:03
deaths on our roads each year.
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每年道路上超过36000起死伤。
07:07
Counterfeiting is set to become
a 2.3-trillion-dollar underground economy,
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假货是一种已达2.3万亿美元
规模的地下经济,
07:13
and the damage that can be done
with that kind of money,
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这么大规模的钱能造成的伤害
07:16
it's really frightening ...
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是非常可怕的。
07:18
because fakes fund terror.
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因为假货在资助恐怖主义。
07:21
Fake trainers on the streets of Paris,
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巴黎街上的假冒运动鞋,
07:24
fake cigarettes in West Africa,
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西非的假冒烟草,
07:26
and pirate music CDs in the USA
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美国的盗版音乐CD,
07:29
have all gone on to fund
trips to training camps,
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所有这些都在资助
去恐怖训练营的旅程,
07:32
bought weapons and ammunition,
or the ingredients for explosives.
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所有这些都被用来购买武器,
弹药或者爆炸材料。
07:36
In June 2014, the French security services
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2014年6月,法国安全部门
07:39
stopped monitoring the communications
of Said and Cherif Kouachi,
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停止了监视塞得和谢里夫·酷阿奇的通讯,
07:45
the two brothers who had been
on a terror watch list for three years.
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而这两兄弟在3年里
都在恐怖主义的监视名单上。
07:49
But that summer, they were only
picking up that Cherif was buying
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但在那个夏天,他们只知道谢里夫
07:52
fake trainers from China,
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正从中国购买假运动鞋,
07:54
so it signaled a shift away from extremism
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所以这显示了他们偏离了恐怖主义,
07:57
into what was considered
a low-level petty crime.
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转到了一种被认为是低层次类型的犯罪。
08:01
The threat had gone away.
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威胁已经消除了。
08:04
Seven months later,
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七个月之后,
08:05
the two brothers walked into the offices
of Charlie Hebdo magazine
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这两兄弟走进了沙尔利周刊的办公室,
08:08
and killed 12 people, wounded 11 more,
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杀死了12个人,超过11个人受伤,
08:11
with guns from the proceeds
of those fakes.
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而他们用的枪就是卖假货得来的。
08:14
So whatever you think, this isn't
a faraway problem happening in China.
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所以不管你怎么想,这不是
一个发生在中国的遥远问题,
08:18
It's happening right here.
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它就发生在这儿。
08:21
And Paris is not unique.
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巴黎并不是特例。
08:23
Ten years earlier, in 2004,
191 people lost their lives
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十年前的2004年,
在马德里通勤列车爆炸案中,
08:27
when a Madrid commuter train was bombed.
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191个人遇难。
08:30
The attack had been partly funded
by the sale of pirate music CDs in the US.
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那场袭击部分资金来源于
美国盗版音乐CD的销售。
08:34
Two years prior to that,
an Al Qaeda training manual
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而在这场袭击发生的两年前,
08:37
recommended explicitly selling fakes
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一份基地组织的训练手册
08:40
as a good way of supporting terror cells.
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明确建议将售卖假货作为
支持恐怖主义的一种很好方式。
08:44
But despite this, despite the evidence
connecting terrorism and counterfeiting,
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但是先不管这些,
不管恐怖主义和售假之间的证据,
08:49
we do go on buying them,
increasing the demand
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我们确实去买过假货,
增加了对假货的需求,
08:52
to the point where
there's even a store in Turkey
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甚至在土耳其有这么一家店
08:54
called "I Love Genuine Fakes."
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名字叫“ 我爱货真价实的假货”。
08:58
And you have tourists posing
with photographs on TripAdvisor,
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而且有些游客在
猫途鹰网站上贴出了照片,
09:01
giving it five-star reviews.
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还给了这家店五星评价。
09:04
But would those same tourists
have gone into a store
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但是这些游客会不会走进一家店,
09:06
called "I Love Genuine Fake Viagra Pills"
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名字叫“我爱真的假伟哥”,
09:10
or "I Genuinely Love Funding Terrorism"?
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或者名字叫“我真的爱资助恐怖主义” ?
09:13
I doubt it.
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我不相信。
09:15
Many of us think
that we're completely helpless
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我们之中许多人认为,
在面对有组织犯罪和恐怖主义时,
09:18
against organized crime and terrorism,
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我们完全无能为力,
09:20
that we can do nothing
about the next attack,
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对于下一次袭击,我们做不了什么,
09:23
but I believe you can.
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但是我相信你们可以。
09:25
You can by becoming investigators, too.
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你们也能作为调查员来做点什么。
09:29
The way we cripple these networks
is to cut their funding,
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我们摧毁这些网络的方式
是切断他们的资金来源,
09:32
and that means cutting the demand
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而那意味着切断他们的需求,
09:34
and changing this idea
that it's a victimless crime.
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意味着改变这个观念:
假货只是一种没有受害者的犯罪。
09:37
Let's all identify counterfeiters,
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让我们都来找出售假者,
09:39
and don't give them our money.
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不要给他们我们的钱。
09:41
So here's a few tips
from one investigator to another
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以下是一个调查员
09:44
to get you started.
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帮助你们开始的几个提示。
09:46
Number one:
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第一条:
09:47
here's a typical
online counterfeiter's website.
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这是一个典型的网上售假者的网站。
09:51
Note the URL.
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注意网址。
09:52
If you're shopping for sunglasses
or camera lenses, say,
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比如如果你想买太阳镜或者相机镜头,
09:55
and you come across a website
like medical-insurance-bankruptcy.com,
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而你来到一个网址像这样的网站,
09:59
start to get very suspicious.
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那么你要开始非常怀疑了。
10:01
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
10:02
Counterfeiters register
expired domain names
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售假者注册了一些过期的域名,
10:04
as a way of keeping up
the old website's Google page ranking.
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以保持这些网站的Google排名。
10:09
Number two:
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第二条:
10:10
is the website screaming at you
that everything is 100 percent genuine,
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是不是有网站大声告诉你
这里的东西都是100%真货,
10:14
but still giving you 75 percent
off the latest collection?
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但即便是最新款也给你二五折?
10:18
Look for words like "master copy,"
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找找这样的字眼,比如“原厂出品”,
10:20
"overruns," "straight from the factory."
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“库存处理”,“工厂直销”。
10:23
They could write this all in Comic Sans,
it's that much of a joke.
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这些字眼可能都是用
Comic Sans字体写的,就是一个笑话。
10:26
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
10:27
Number three:
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第三条:
10:29
if you get as far as the checkout page,
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如果你都来到了结帐页面,
10:31
and you don't see "https"
or a padlock symbol next to the URL,
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而你没看到“https"字样
或者在网址边有个锁的图标,
10:36
you should really start thinking
about closing the tab,
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那么你真的要开始考虑关掉这个页面,
因为这些东西提示了
10:39
because these indicate
active security measures
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保证你个人信息和
信用卡信息安全的措施。
10:41
that will keep your personal
and credit card information safe.
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10:44
OK, last one:
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好,最后一条:
10:46
go hunting for the "Contact Us" page.
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去看看”联系我们“这个页面。
10:48
If you can only find a generic webform,
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如果你只是发现了
一个一般的网页表格,
10:51
no company name, telephone number,
email address, postal address --
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没有公司名字,没有电话号码,
邮箱,邮政地址——
10:55
that's it, case closed.
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那么,结案了。
10:57
You found a counterfeiter.
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你找到了一个售假者。
10:59
Sadly, you're going to have
to go back to Google
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遗憾的是,你要回到Google,
重新开始你的购物搜索,
11:02
and start your shopping search
all over again,
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不过你没被坑钱,那是唯一的好事。
11:04
but you didn't get ripped off,
so that's only a good thing.
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11:08
As the world's most famous
fictional detective would say,
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就像世界最著名的虚构侦探说的那样,
11:12
"Watson, the game is afoot."
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”华生,这个游戏永不会停止。“
11:15
Only this time, my investigator friends,
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就在此刻,我的调查员朋友们
11:17
the game is painfully real.
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还在进行着这个痛苦的游戏。
11:19
So the next time you're shopping online,
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所以下一次你在网上购物时,
11:22
or perhaps wherever it is,
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或者在其他什么地方购物,
11:24
look closer, question a little bit
deeper, and ask yourself --
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看仔细,多质疑,在你交钱
或者点击购买按钮时,
11:28
before you hand over
the cash or click "Buy,"
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问问你自己,
11:31
"Am I sure this is real?"
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”我能确定这是真的吗?“
11:33
Tell your friend that used to buy
counterfeit watches
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告诉你习惯买假表的朋友,
11:36
that he may just have brought
the next attack one day closer.
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也许他使下一次恐怖袭击更近了一天。
11:40
And, if you see
an Instagram advert for fakes,
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当你在Instagram上看到假货的广告时,
11:42
don't keep scrolling past,
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不要只是翻过去,
11:44
report it to the platform as a scam.
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要去向平台报告。
11:47
Let's shine a light
on the dark forces of counterfeiting
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让我们给藏在不起眼角落里的
11:50
that are hiding in plain sight.
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这些假货的黑暗力量打上一束光。
11:52
So please, spread the word
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所以,请传达给全世界,
11:54
and don't stop investigating.
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请不要停止调查。
11:56
Thank you.
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谢谢。
11:57
(Applause)
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(掌声)
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