The interspecies Internet? An idea in progress...

Prevodilac: Miloš Milosavljević Lektor: Tatjana Jevdjic

Diana Reiss: You may think you're looking

Dajana Rajs: Možda ćete misliti da gledate

through a window at a dolphin spinning playfully,

kroz prozor u delfina koji se razdragano vrti,

but what you're actually looking through

ali u stvari gledate

is a two-way mirror at a dolphin

kroz dvosmerno ogledalo u delfina

looking at itself spinning playfully.

koji posmatra sebe kako se razdragano vrti.

This is a dolphin that is self-aware.

Ovo je delfin koji je svestan sebe.

This dolphin has self-awareness.

Ovaj delfin ima samosvest.

It's a young dolphin named Bayley.

To je mladi delfin po imenu Bejli.

I've been very interested in understanding the nature

Veoma sam zainteresovana da razumem prirodu

of the intelligence of dolphins for the past 30 years.

inteligencije delfina, zadnjih 30 godina.

How do we explore intelligence in this animal

Kako istražujemo inteligenciju kod ove životinje

that's so different from us?

koja je toliko različita od nas?

And what I've used is a very simple research tool,

Ono što sam koristila je vrlo jednostavan istraživački alat,

a mirror, and we've gained great information,

ogledalo, i dobili smo sjajnu informaciju,

reflections of these animal minds.

odraze umova ovih životinja.

Dolphins aren't the only animals, the only non-human animals,

Delfini nisu jedine životinje, jedine "nehumane" životinje

to show mirror self-recognition.

koje pokazuju samoprepoznavanje.

We used to think this was a uniquely human ability,

Mislili smo da je ovo isključivo ljudska sposobnost

but we learned that the great apes, our closest relatives,

ali smo naučili da veliki majmuni, naši najbliži rođaci,

also show this ability.

takođe pokazuju ovu sposobnost.

Then we showed it in dolphins,

Onda smo to pokazali kod delfina

and then later in elephants.

i kasnije kod slonova.

We did this work in my lab with the dolphins and elephants,

Ovo smo radili u mojoj laboratoriji sa delfinima i slonovima,

a skoro se pokazalo i kod svrake.

and it's been recently shown in the magpie.

Now, it's interesting, because we've embraced

Ovo je zanimljivo jer smo usvojili

this Darwinian view of a continuity in physical evolution,

Darvinovu teoriju o kontinuitetu u fizičkoj evoluciji,

this physical continuity.

taj fizički kontinuitet.

But we've been much more reticent, much slower

Ali bili smo mnogo suzdržaniji, mnogo sporiji

at recognizing this continuity in cognition,

u prepoznavanju ovog kontinuiteta u spoznaji,

in emotion, in consciousness in other animals.

u emociji, u svesti kod drugih životinja.

Other animals are conscious.

Druge životinje su svesne.

They're emotional. They're aware.

One su osećajne. One su svesne.

There have been multitudes of studies with many species

Bilo je mnoštvo studija sa mnogim vrstama

over the years that have given us exquisite evidence

tokom godina, koje su nam dale izvrsne dokaze

for thinking and consciousness in other animals,

o razmišljanju i svesnosti kod drugih životinja,

other animals that are quite different than we are in form.

životinja koje su prilično različite od nas po formi.

We are not alone.

Nismo sami.

We are not alone in these abilities.

Nismo sami u ovim sposobnostima.

And I hope, and one of my biggest dreams,

Nadam se da ćemo, i to je jedan od mojih najvećih snova,

is that, with our growing awareness

sa našom rastućom svešću

about the consciousness of others

o svesnosti drugih

and our relationship with the rest of the animal world,

i našim odnosom s ostatkom životinjskog sveta,

that we'll give them the respect and protection

njima ukazati poštovanje i zaštitu

that they deserve.

koju zaslužuju.

So that's a wish I'm throwing out here for everybody,

To je želja koju iznosim ovde za svakoga

and I hope I can really engage you in this idea.

i nadam se da vas mogu stvarno zainteresovati za ovu ideju.

Now, I want to return to dolphins,

Sada bih htela da se vratim na delfine

because these are the animals that I feel like

jer sa ovim životinjama osećam

I've been working up closely and personal with

kao da sam radila blisko i lično

for over 30 years.

preko 30 godina.

And these are real personalities.

I oni su prave ličnosti.

They are not persons, but they're personalities

Nisu osobe, ali su ličnosti

in every sense of the word.

u svakom smislu te reči.

And you can't get more alien than the dolphin.

Ne postoji ništa više strano od delfina.

They are very different from us in body form.

Oni su vrlo različiti od nas po obliku tela.

They're radically different. They come from a radically different environment.

Oni su radikalno drugačiji. Dolaze iz radikalno drukčijeg okruženja.

U stvari, deli nas 95 miliona godina

In fact, we're separated by 95 million years

of divergent evolution.

razilazeće evolucije.

Look at this body.

Pogledajte ovo telo.

And in every sense of making a pun here,

U svakom smislu igre reči

these are true non-terrestrials.

oni su pravi ne-zemaljci.

I wondered how we might interface with these animals.

Ptala sam se kako možemo da komuniciramo sa ovim životinjama.

In the 1980s, I developed an underwater keyboard.

1980. konstruisala sam podvodnu tastaturu.

This was a custom-made touch-screen keyboard.

Ovo je specijalno napravljena tastatura koja reaguje na dodir.

What I wanted to do was give the dolphins choice and control.

Ono što sam htela je da dam delfinima izbor i kontrolu.

These are big brains, highly social animals,

To su veliki mozgovi, visoko društvene životinje

and I thought, well, if we give them choice and control,

i mislila sam, ako im damo izbor i kontrolu,

if they can hit a symbol on this keyboard --

ako mogu da pritisnu znak na ovoj tastaturi -

and by the way, it was interfaced by fiber optic cables

i uzgred povezana je kablovima od optičkih vlakana

from Hewlett-Packard with an Apple II computer.

iz Hjulet-Pakarda sa Epl II kompjuterom.

This seems prehistoric now,

Ovo sada izgleda praistorijski,

but this was where we were with technology.

ali to je ono gde smo bili u tehnološkom pogledu.

So the dolphins could hit a key, a symbol,

Delfini su mogli da pritisnu dugme, znak,

they heard a computer-generated whistle,

čuli su kompjuterski generisan zvižduk

and they got an object or activity.

i dobili su predmet ili aktivnost.

Now here's a little video.

Evo sada malog video snimka.

This is Delphi and Pan, and you're going to see Delphi

Ovo su Delfaj i Pan i videćete Delfaja

hitting a key, he hears a computer-generated whistle -- (Whistle) --

kako pritiska dugme, čuje kompjuterski zvižduk - (Zvižduk) -

and gets a ball, so they can actually ask for things they want.

i dobija loptu, tako da oni u stvari mogu da traže stvari koje hoće.

What was remarkable is, they explored this keyboard

Ono što je izuzetno je to da su sami istraživali tastaturu.

on their own. There was no intervention on our part.

Nije bilo mešanja s naše strane.

They explored the keyboard. They played around with it.

Istraživali su tastaturu. Igrali su se oko nje.

Shvatili su kako radi.

They figured out how it worked.

And they started to quickly imitate the sounds

I počeli su brzo da oponašaju zvuke

koje su čuli na tastaturi.

they were hearing on the keyboard.

They imitated on their own.

Oponašali su ih sami.

Beyond that, though, they started learning

I više od toga, počeli su da uče

associations between the symbols, the sounds

veze između znakova, zvukova

and the objects.

i objekata.

What we saw was self-organized learning,

Ono što smo videli bilo je samoorganizujuće učenje

and now I'm imagining, what can we do

i sada zamišljam šta bismo mogli da uradimo

with new technologies?

sa novim tehnologijama?

How can we create interfaces, new windows into

Kako možemo da kreiramo interfejse,

the minds of animals, with the technologies that exist today?

nove prozore u umove životinja sa tehnologijama koje postoje danas?

So I was thinking about this, and then, one day,

Razmišljala sam o ovome i onda, jednog dana

I got a call from Peter.

nazvao me je Piter.

Peter Gabriel: I make noises for a living.

Piter Gejbriel: Ja živim od pravljenja buke.

On a good day, it's music,

Kad je dan dobar, onda je to muzika

and I want to talk a little bit about

i hteo bih da kažem nešto

the most amazing music-making experience I ever had.

o najneverovatnijem iskustvu pravljenja muzike koje sam ikada imao.

I'm a farm boy. I grew up surrounded by animals,

Ja sam dete sa farme. Odrastao sam okružen životinjama

and I would look in these eyes and wonder

i gledao sam u te oči i pitao se

what was going on there?

šta li se tu dešava?

So as an adult, when I started to read about

Kao odrastao, kad sam počeo da čitam

the amazing breakthroughs with Penny Patterson and Koko,

o neverovatnim dostignućima sa Peni Paterson i Koko

with Sue Savage-Rumbaugh and Kanzi, Panbanisha,

sa Su Sevidž-Rambo i Kenzi, Panbanišom,

Irene Pepperberg, Alex the parrot,

Ajrin Peperberg, papagajem Aleksom,

I got all excited.

bio sam uzbuđen.

What was amazing to me also

Ono što mi je takođe bilo neverovatno

was they seemed a lot more adept

je to što je izgledalo da su puno veštiji

at getting a handle on our language

u ovladavanju našim jezikom

than we were on getting a handle on theirs.

nego što smo mi u ovladavanju njihovim.

I work with a lot of musicians from around the world,

Radim sa puno muzičara sa raznih strana sveta

and often we don't have any common language at all,

i često nemamo nijedan zajednički jezik koji govorimo,

but we sit down behind our instruments,

ali sednemo za naše instrumente

and suddenly there's a way for us to connect and emote.

i odjednom postoji način da se povežemo i izrazimo emocije.

So I started cold-calling, and eventually got through

Počeo sam da okrećem telefone i konačno došao

to Sue Savage-Rumbaugh,

do Su Sevidž-Rambo

and she invited me down.

i ona me je pozvala kod nje.

I went down, and the bonobos

Otšao sam tamo i bonobo majmuni

had had access to percussion instruments,

su imali pristup udaračkim instrumentima,

musical toys, but never before to a keyboard.

muzičkim igračkama, ali nikad ranije klavijaturama.

At first they did what infants do,

Prvo su radili ono što rade bebe,

just bashed it with their fists,

samo su ih udarali pesnicama

and then I asked, through Sue,

i onda sam pitao preko Su,

if Panbanisha could try with one finger only.

da li Panbaniša može da proba samo s jednim prstom.

Sue Savage-Rumbaugh: Can you play a grooming song?

Su Sevidž-Rambo: Je l' možeš da odsviraš pesmu o čuvaru?

I want to hear a grooming song.

Hoću da čujem pesmu o čuvaru.

Play a real quiet grooming song.

Sviraj tiho čuvarevu pesmu.

PG: So groom was the subject of the piece.

PG: Čuvar je tema komada.

(Music)

(Muzika)

So I'm just behind, jamming,

Ja sam odmah iza, sviram,

yeah, this is what we started with.

ovo je ono s čim smo počeli.

Sue's encouraging her to continue a little more.

Su je ohrabruje da nastavi još malo.

(Music)

(Muzika)

She discovers a note she likes,

Ona pronalazi notu koja joj se sviđa,

finds the octave.

nalazi oktavu.

She'd never sat at a keyboard before.

Nikad ranije nije sela za klavijature.

Nice triplets.

Lepe triole.

SSR: You did good. That was very good.

SSR: Bila si dobra. To je bilo vrlo dobro.

PG: She hit good.

PG: Dobro je udarala.

(Applause)

(Aplauz)

So that night, we began to dream,

Te noći smo počeli da sanjamo

and we thought, perhaps the most amazing tool

i mislili smo, možda je najneverovatnija alatka

that man's created is the Internet,

koju je čovek stvorio, internet

and what would happen if we could somehow

i šta bi se desilo kad bismo nekako mogli

find new interfaces,

da nađemo nove interfejse,

visual-audio interfaces that would allow

vizuelno-zvučne interfejse koji bi omogućili pristup

these remarkable sentient beings

ovim neobičnim senzibilnim bićima

that we share the planet with access?

s kojima delimo planetu?

And Sue Savage-Rumbaugh got excited about that,

Su Sevidž-Rambo se zagrejala za to,

called her friend Steve Woodruff,

pozvala je svog prijatelja Stiva Vudrafa

and we began hustling all sorts of people

i počeli smo da nagovaramo sve vrste ljudi

whose work related or was inspiring,

čiji je rad u nekoj vezi ili inspirativan,

which led us to Diana,

što nas je odvelo do Dajane

and led us to Neil.

i do Nila.

Neil Gershenfeld: Thanks, Peter. PG: Thank you.

Nil Geršenfeld: Hvala Piter. PG: Hvala tebi.

(Aplauz)

(Applause)

NG: So Peter approached me.

NG: Piter mi je prišao.

I lost it when I saw that clip.

Izgubio sam se kad sam video taj video klip.

He approached me with a vision of doing these things

Prišao mi je sa vizijom da radi ove stvari

not for people, for animals.

ne za ljude, već za životinje.

And then I was struck in the history of the Internet.

I onda me je pogodila istorija interneta.

This is what the Internet looked like when it was born

Ovako je internet izgledao kad je rođen

and you can call that the Internet

i možete to nazvati internetom

of middle-aged white men,

sredovečnih belaca,

mostly middle-aged white men.

uglavnom sredovečnih belaca.

Vint Cerf: (Laughs)

Vint Serf: (Smeje se)

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

NG: Speaking as one.

NG: Govorim kao jedan od njih.

Then, when I first came to TED,

Kada sam prvi put došao na TED,

which was where I met Peter, I showed this.

gde sam sreo Pitera, pokazao sam ovo.

This is a $1 web server,

Ovo je internet server koji košta 1 dolar

and at the time that was radical.

i tada je to bilo radikalno.

And the possibility of making a web server for a dollar

Mogućnost da se napravi internet server za 1 dolar

grew into what became known as the Internet of Things,

je prerasla u ono što je postalo poznato kao "Internet stvari",

which is literally an industry now with tremendous implications

što je bukvalno industrija sa ogromnim implikacijama

for health care, energy efficiency.

na zdravstvenu zaštitu, energetsku efikasnost.

And we were happy with ourselves.

Bili smo zadovoljni samima sobom.

And then when Peter showed me that,

A onda kad mi je Piter to pokazao,

I realized we had missed something,

shvatio sam da nam nešto nedostaje,

a to je ostatak planete.

which is the rest of the planet.

So we started up this interspecies Internet project.

Tako smo počeli ovaj projekat interneta među vrstama.

Now we started talking with TED

Počeli smo da razgovaramo sa TED-om

about how you bring dolphins and great apes and elephants

kako da dovedemo delfine i velike majmune i slonove

to TED, and we realized that wouldn't work.

na TED i shvatili smo da to neće ići.

So we're going to bring you to them.

Zato ćemo da vas odvedemo do njih.

So if we could switch to the audio from this computer,

Ako bismo mogli da se prebacimo na zvuk sa ovog kompjutera,

we've been video conferencing with cognitive animals,

imaćemo video konferenciju sa svesnim životinjama

and we're going to have each of them

i svaku od njih ćemo

just briefly introduce them.

samo kratko predstaviti.

And so if we could also have this up, great.

I ako bismo mogli da imamo i ovo gore, sjajno.

So the first site we're going to meet

Prvo mesto koje ćemo upoznati

is Cameron Park Zoo in Waco, with orangutans.

je zoološki vrt "Kameron park" u Vekou sa orangutanima.

In the daytime they live outside. It's nighttime there now.

Danju oni žive napolju. Tamo je sada noć.

So can you please go ahead?

Možete li da počnete, molim vas?

Terri Cox: Hi, I'm Terri Cox

Teri Koks: Zdravo, ja sam Teri Koks

with the Cameron Park Zoo in Waco, Texas,

Iz zoološkog vrta "Kameron park" u Vejkou u Teksasu

and with me I have KeraJaan and Mei,

i sa mnom su KeraŽan i Mej,

two of our Bornean orangutans.

dva od naših orangutana sa Bornea.

During the day, they have a beautiful, large outdoor habitat,

Tokom dana oni imaju prelepo, veliko stanište na otvorenom,

and at night, they come into this habitat,

a noću dolaze u ovo stanište,

into their night quarters,

u svoje noćne odaje,

where they can have a climate-controlled

gde imaju klimatski regulisano

and secure environment to sleep in.

i bezbedno okruženje za spavanje.

We participate in the Apps for Apes program

Učestvujemo u programu "Aplikacije za majmune -

Orangutan Outreach, and we use iPads

pružanje ruke orangutanima" i koristimo iPad-ove

to help stimulate and enrich the animals,

da bismo stimulisali i obogatili životinje

and also help raise awareness

i takođe, pomogli u podizanju svesti

for these critically endangered animals.

o ovim kritično ugroženim životinjama.

And they share 97 percent of our DNA

Nihova DNK je 97 posto kao naša

and are incredibly intelligent,

i neverovatno su inteligentni

so it's so exciting to think of all the opportunities

i uzbudljivo je misliti o svim mogućnostima

that we have via technology and the Internet

koje imamo putem tehnologije i interneta

to really enrich their lives and open up their world.

da stvarno obogatimo njihove živote i otvorimo njihov svet.

We're really excited about the possibility

Stvarno smo uzbuđeni zbog mogućnosti

of an interspecies Internet,

interneta među vrstama

and K.J. has been enjoying the conference very much.

i KeraŽan veoma uživa u konferenciji.

NG: That's great. When we were rehearsing last night,

NG.: To je sjajno. Kad smo probali sinoć

zabavljali smo se gledajući slonove.

he had fun watching the elephants.

Next user group are the dolphins at the National Aquarium.

Sledeća korisnička grupa su delfini u Nacionalnom akvarijumu.

Please go ahead.

Molim vas, izvolite.

Allison Ginsburg: Good evening.

Alison Ginsburg: Dobro veče.

Well, my name is Allison Ginsburg,

Moje ime je Alison Ginzburg

i idemo uživo iz Baltimora iz Naconalnog akvarijuma.

and we're live in Baltimore at the National Aquarium.

Sa mnom su tri od naših osam atlantskih kljunastih delfina:

Joining me are three of our eight Atlantic bottlenose dolphins:

20-year-old Chesapeake, who was our first dolphin born here,

dvadesetogodišnja Česapik, naš prvi delfin koji je rođen ovde,

her four-year-old daughter Bayley,

njena četvorogodišnja ćerka Bejli

and her half sister, 11-year-old Maya.

i njena polusestra, jedanaestogodišnja Maja.

Now, here at the National Aquarium

Ovde u Nacionalnom akvarijumu

we are committed to excellence in animal care,

smo posvećeni odličnom negovanju životinja,

to research, and to conservation.

istraživanju i očuvanju.

The dolphins are pretty intrigued as to what's going on here tonight.

Delfini su vrlo zainteresovani za ono što se ovde događa večeras.

They're not really used to having cameras here

Nisu navikli da imamo kamere ovde

at 8 o'clock at night.

u 8 sati uveče.

In addition, we are very committed to doing

Osim toga vrlo smo posvećeni

different types of research.

različitim vrstama istraživanja.

As Diana mentioned, our animals are involved

Kao što je Dajana pomenula, naše životinje su uključene

in many different research studies.

u mnoge istraživačke studije.

NG: Those are for you.

NG: Ovo je za vas.

Okay, that's great, thank you.

Okej, sjajno, hvala.

And the third user group, in Thailand,

I treća korisnička grupa, na Tajlandu

is Think Elephants. Go ahead, Josh.

je "Razmišljajte o slonovima". Izvoli Džoš.

Josh Plotnik: Hi, my name is Josh Plotnik,

Džoš Plotnik: Zdravo, moje ime je Džoš Plotnik

and I'm with Think Elephants International,

i ja sam član organizacije "Razmišljajte o slonovima"

and we're here in the Golden Triangle of Thailand

i ovde smo u Zlatnom trouglu na Tajlandu

with the Golden Triangle Asian Elephant Foundation elephants.

sa slonovima iz Fondacije azijskih slonova Zlatnog trougla.

And we have 26 elephants here,

Ovde imamo 26 slonova

and our research is focused on the evolution of intelligence with elephants,

i naše istraživanje je fokusirano na razvoj inteligencije slonova,

but our foundation Think Elephants is focused

ali naša fondacija "Razmišljajte o slonovima" je fokusirana

on bringing elephants into classrooms around the world

na dovođenje slonova u učionice širom sveta

virtually like this and showing people

virutuelno, kao sada, i pokazivanje ljudima

how incredible these animals are.

koliko su ove životinje neverovatne.

So we're able to bring the camera right up to the elephant,

Možemo da prinesemo kameru do slona,

put food into the elephant's mouth,

stavimo hranu u usta slona,

show people what's going on inside their mouths,

pokažemo ljudima šta se dešava u njihovim ustima

and show everyone around the world

i pokažemo svima širom sveta

how incredible these animals really are.

koliko su stvarno ove životinje neverovatne.

NG: Okay, that's great. Thanks Josh.

NG.: Okej, to je sjajno. Hvala Džoš.

And once again, we've been building great relationships

I još jednom, izgrađujemo sjajne odnose

among them just since we've been rehearsing.

među njima od kad vežbamo.

So at that point, if we can go back to the other computer,

U tom momentu, ako bismo mogli da se vratimo do drugog kompjutera,

we were starting to think about how you integrate

počeli smo da razmišljamo kako da integrišemo

the rest of the biomass of the planet into the Internet,

ostatak biomase planete u internet

and we went to the best possible person

i otišli smo do najbolje moguće osobe

I can think of, which is Vint Cerf,

koje mogu da se setim, a to je Vint Serf

who is one of the founders who gave us the Internet. Vint?

koji je jedan od osnivača koji nam je dao internet. Vint?

VC: Thank you, Neil.

VS: Hvala Nil.

(Applause)

(Aplauz)

A long time ago in a galaxy — oops, wrong script.

Pre mnogo vremena u galaksiji - ups, pogrešan scenario.

Forty years ago, Bob Kahn and I

Pre 40 godina, Bob Kan i ja

did the design of the Internet.

smo uradili dizajn interneta.

Thirty years ago, we turned it on.

Pre 30 godina smo ga pokrenuli.

Just last year, we turned on the production Internet.

Prošle godine pokrenuli smo Internet za proizvodnju.

You've been using the experimental version

Vi koristite eksperimentalnu verziju

for the last 30 years.

poslednjih 30 godina.

The production version, it uses IP version 6.

Verzija za proizvodnju koristi IP verziju 6.

It has 3.4 times 10 to the 38th possible terminations.

Ima 3,4 puta 10 na 38-mi mogućih priključaka.

That's a number only that Congress can appreciate.

To je broj koji samo Kongres može da ceni.

But it leads to what is coming next.

Ali to vodi onome što sledi.

When Bob and I did this design,

Kad smo Bob i ja uradili ovaj dizajn

we thought we were building a system to connect computers together.

mislili smo da pravimo sistem da bismo povezali kompjutere.

What we very quickly discovered

Ono što smo ubrzo otkrili

is that this was a system for connecting people together.

je to da je ovo sistem za povezivanje ljudi.

And what you've seen tonight

Ono što ste videli večeras

tells you that we should not restrict this network

govori vam da ne treba da ograničimo ovu mrežu

to one species,

na jednu vrstu,

that these other intelligent, sentient species

da ove druge inteligentne, senzibilne vrste

should be part of the system too.

treba da budu takođe deo sistema.

This is the system as it looks today, by the way.

Ovo je ono kako sistem izgleda danas.

This is what the Internet looks like to a computer

Ovako internet izgleda kompjuteru

that's trying to figure out where the traffic

koji pokušava da shvati kuda bi saobraćaj

is supposed to go.

trebalo da ide.

This is generated by a program

Ovo je generisao program

that's looking at the connectivity of the Internet,

koji prati povezanost na internetu

and how all the various networks are connected together.

i to kako su različite mreže povezane međusobno.

There are about 400,000 networks, interconnected,

Ima oko 400.000 mreža, međupovezanih,

run independently by 400,000 different operating agencies,

koje nezavisno pokreće 400.000 različitih operativnih agencija

and the only reason this works

i jedini razlog zašto ovo funkcioniše

is that they all use the same standard TCP/IP protocols.

je taj da svi oni koriste iste standardne TCP/IP protokole.

Well, you know where this is headed.

Znate kuda ovo vodi.

The Internet of Things tell us

"Internet stvari" nam kaže

that a lot of computer-enabled appliances and devices

da će puno aparata i uređaja kojima upravlja kompjuter

are going to become part of this system too:

takođe postati deo ovog sistema:

appliances that you use around the house,

uređaji koje koristite po kući,

that you use in your office,

koje koristite u kancelariji,

that you carry around with yourself or in the car.

koje nosite sa sobom ili u kolima.

That's the Internet of Things that's coming.

To je "Internet stvari" koji dolazi.

Now, what's important about what these people are doing

Ono što je važno u vezi s onim što ovi ljudi rade

is that they're beginning to learn

je to da počinju da uče

how to communicate with species

kako da komuniciraju sa vrstama

that are not us

koje nismo mi,

but share a common sensory environment.

ali imaju isto čulno okruženje.

We're beginning to explore what it means

Počinjemo da istražujemo šta znači

to communicate with something

komunicirati s nečim

that isn't just another person.

što nije jednostavno druga osoba.

Well, you can see what's coming next.

Možete videti šta dolazi sledeće.

All kinds of possible sentient beings

Sve moguće vrste svesnih bića

may be interconnected through this system,

mogu se međusobno povezati putem ovog sistema

i jedva čekam da vidim odvijanje ovih eksperimenata.

and I can't wait to see these experiments unfold.

What happens after that?

Šta će se desiti posle toga?

Well, let's see.

Pa, da vidimo.

There are machines that need to talk to machines

Postoje mašine koje treba da pričaju sa mašinama

and that we need to talk to, and so as time goes on,

i sa kojima mi treba da pričamo i kako vreme prolazi

we're going to have to learn

moraćemo da naučimo

how to communicate with computers

kako da komuniciramo s kompjuterima

and how to get computers to communicate with us

i kako da izvedemo da kompjuteri komuniciraju sa nama

in the way that we're accustomed to,

onako kako smo navikli,

not with keyboards, not with mice,

ne sa tastaturom, ne sa mišem,

but with speech and gestures

nego govorom i gestovima

and all the natural human language that we're accustomed to.

i ljudskim govorom na koji smo navikli.

So we'll need something like C3PO

Trebaće nam nešto kao C3PO

to become a translator between ourselves

da bude prevodilac između nas

and some of the other machines we live with.

i nekih od mašina s kojima živimo.

Now, there is a project that's underway

Postoji projekat koji je u toku

called the interplanetary Internet.

koji se zove Međuplanetarni internet.

It's in operation between Earth and Mars.

On funkcioniše između Zemlje i Marsa.

It's operating on the International Space Station.

Funkcioniše na Međunarodnoj svemirskoj stanici.

It's part of the spacecraft that's in orbit around the Sun

Deo je svemirske letelice koja je u orbiti oko Sunca

that's rendezvoused with two planets.

koja se sastaje sa ove dve planete.

So the interplanetary system is on its way,

Tako da je interplanetarni sistem na putu,

but there's a last project,

ali tu je poslednji projekat,

which the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency,

a to je Agencija za istraživanje naprednih projekata

which funded the original ARPANET,

koja je finansirala prvobitni ARPANET,

funded the Internet, funded the interplanetary architecture,

finansirala internet, finansirala međuplanetarnu arhitekturu,

is now funding a project to design a spacecraft

sada finansira projekat dizajniranja svemirske letelice

to get to the nearest star in 100 years' time.

koja bi stigla do najbliže zvezde za 100 godina.

What that means is that what we're learning

To znači da će nas, ono što učimo

with these interactions with other species

iz ovih interakcija sa drugim vrstama,

will teach us, ultimately,

konačno naučiti

how we might interact with an alien from another world.

kako bismo mogli da uđemo u međusobnu komunikaciju sa vanzemaljcem.

I can hardly wait.

Jedva čekam.

(Applause)

(Aplauz)

June Cohen: So first of all, thank you,

Džun Koen: Prvo, hvala vam

and I would like to acknowledge that four people

i htela bih da potvrdim da su četiri osobe

who could talk to us for full four days

koje bi mogle da nam pričaju četiri puna dana,

actually managed to stay to four minutes each,

u stvari uspele da ostanu četiri minuta svaka

and we thank you for that.

i hvala vam na tome.

I have so many questions,

Imam toliko pitanja,

but maybe a few practical things that the audience might want to know.

ali možda nekoliko praktičnih stvari koje bi publika možda htela da zna.

Vi pokrećete ovu ideju ovde na TED-u. PG: Danas.

You're launching this idea here at TED — PG: Today.

JC: Today. This is the first time you're talking about it.

DžK: Danas.

Tell me a little bit about where you're going to take the idea.

Kažite mi malo o tome kuda ćete dalje sa ovom idejom.

Šta je sledeće?

What's next?

PG: I think we want to engage as many people

P.G.: Mislim da želimo da uključimo što je više ljudi moguće

here as possible in helping us

da nam pomognu

think of smart interfaces that will make all this possible.

u razmišljanju o pametnim interfejsima koji će učiniti sve ovo mogućim.

NG: And just mechanically,

NG: Samo mehanički,

there's a 501(c)(3) and web infrastructure

tu je 501(c)(3) i veb infrastruktura

and all of that, but it's not quite ready to turn on,

i sve to, ali nije potpuno spremno da se uključi,

so we'll roll that out, and contact us

otkrićemo vam to i kontaktirajte nas

if you want the information on it.

ako želite informacije o tome.

The idea is this will be -- much like the Internet functions

Ideja je da to bude - kao što internet funkcioniše

as a network of networks,

kao mreža nad svim mrežama,

which is Vint's core contribution,

što je Vintov centralni doprinos,

this will be a wrapper around all of these initiatives,

to će biti omotač oko svih ovih inicijativa

that are wonderful individually, to link them globally.

koje su pojedinačno divne, da ih povežemo globalno.

JC: Right, and do you have a web address

DžK: Dobro, a da li imate internet adresu

that we might look for yet?

koju bismo mogli da pogledamo?

NG: Shortly. JC: Shortly. We will come back to you on that.

NG: Uskoro. DžK: Uskoro. Obavestićemo vas o tome.

And very quickly, just to clarify.

I vrlo brzo, samo da razjasnimo.

Some people might have looked at the video that you showed

Neki su možda videli video snimak koji ste pokazali

and thought, well, that's just a webcam.

i pomislili, pa, to je samo veb kamera

What's special about it?

Šta je posebno u vezi sa tim?

If you could talk for just a moment

Ako biste mogli da kažete samo na trenutak

about how you want to go past that?

o tome kako želite da prevaziđete to?

NG: So this is scalable video infrastructure,

NG: Ovo je skalabilna video infrastruktura,

not for a few to a few but many to many,

ne od malobrojnih ka malobrojnima, nego od mnogih ka mnogima,

so that it scales to symmetrical video sharing

tako da se raspoređuje na simetrično deljenje video snimka

and content sharing across these sites around the planet.

i deljenje sadržaja po ovim sajtovima širom planete.

So there's a lot of back-end signal processing,

Ima puno obrade signala sa zadnjeg kraja,

not for one to many, but for many to many.

ne za jednog ka mnogima, nego za mnoge ka mnogima.

JC: Right, and then on a practical level,

DžK: Dobro, a onda na praktičnom nivou,

which technologies are you looking at first?

koje tehnologije vidite kao prve?

I know you mentioned that a keyboard is a really key part of this.

Znam da ste pomenuli da je tastatura ključan deo ovoga.

DR: We're trying to develop an interactive touch screen for dolphins.

DR: Pokušavamo da razvijemo interaktivni ekran osetljiv na dodir za delfine.

This is sort of a continuation of some of the earlier work,

Ovo je neka vrsta nastavka nekih ranijih radova

i upravo danas smo dobili prvi novac za pokretanje toga,

and we just got our first seed money today towards that,

so it's our first project.

tako da je to naš prvi projekat.

JC: Before the talk, even. DR: Yeah.

DžK: Čak i pre ovog govora. DR: Da.

JC: Wow. Well done.

DžK: Oh. Odlično.

All right, well thank you all so much for joining us.

Hvala vam puno svima što ste bili sa nama.

It's such a delight to have you on the stage.

Bilo je zadovoljstvo imati vas na bini.

DR: Thank you. VC: Thank you.

DR: Hvala. VS: Hvala.

(Applause)

(Aplauz)