The interspecies Internet? An idea in progress...

79,466 views ・ 2013-07-10

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翻译人员: Samson Zhong 校对人员: Tingting Zhao
00:12
Diana Reiss: You may think you're looking
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Diana Reiss: 从窗户这看过去
00:14
through a window at a dolphin spinning playfully,
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你可能以为是一只海豚为了找乐子,旋身打转
00:18
but what you're actually looking through
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但其实你正透过一面双面镜
00:21
is a two-way mirror at a dolphin
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看到一只海豚
00:23
looking at itself spinning playfully.
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对着镜子转着玩
00:26
This is a dolphin that is self-aware.
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这只海豚意识到自己
00:28
This dolphin has self-awareness.
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是有自我意识的
00:30
It's a young dolphin named Bayley.
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这只小海豚名叫贝利 (Bayley)
00:32
I've been very interested in understanding the nature
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过去 30 年来,我对海豚的智能特质
00:35
of the intelligence of dolphins for the past 30 years.
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一直很有兴趣
00:39
How do we explore intelligence in this animal
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我们要如何探讨这种与我们
00:42
that's so different from us?
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截然不同的生物所拥有的智力?
00:43
And what I've used is a very simple research tool,
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我用过的研究工具非常简单
00:46
a mirror, and we've gained great information,
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光是一面镜子,便透漏出许多
00:49
reflections of these animal minds.
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反映动物思维的讯息
00:52
Dolphins aren't the only animals, the only non-human animals,
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人类以外,海豚并不是唯一
00:56
to show mirror self-recognition.
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能认得镜中自己的动物
00:58
We used to think this was a uniquely human ability,
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我们曾经认为这是人类独有的能力,
01:01
but we learned that the great apes, our closest relatives,
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但人类近亲猩猩
01:04
also show this ability.
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也表现出了这种能力
01:06
Then we showed it in dolphins,
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海豚和大象
01:08
and then later in elephants.
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都展现了这种能力
01:10
We did this work in my lab with the dolphins and elephants,
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我们在实验室以大象和海豚进行研究
最近发现喜鹊也具备这样的能力
01:13
and it's been recently shown in the magpie.
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01:15
Now, it's interesting, because we've embraced
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有趣的是,我们向来拥护
01:18
this Darwinian view of a continuity in physical evolution,
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达尔文认为形体进化有延续性的观点
01:22
this physical continuity.
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相对于这种形体延续性
01:23
But we've been much more reticent, much slower
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我们比较有所保留的是
01:27
at recognizing this continuity in cognition,
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其他动物在认知、情感
01:30
in emotion, in consciousness in other animals.
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其他动物在认知、情感
01:33
Other animals are conscious.
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和知觉也有演化延续性
01:36
They're emotional. They're aware.
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牠们有感情,有意识
01:39
There have been multitudes of studies with many species
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多年来,已有许多物种研究
01:42
over the years that have given us exquisite evidence
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提供精确的证据
01:46
for thinking and consciousness in other animals,
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证明其他外型与我们非常不同的动物
01:49
other animals that are quite different than we are in form.
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也有意识,还能思考
01:52
We are not alone.
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这方面
01:55
We are not alone in these abilities.
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我们并非得天独厚
01:59
And I hope, and one of my biggest dreams,
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我最大的梦想
02:02
is that, with our growing awareness
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就是随着我们对其他动物意识
02:05
about the consciousness of others
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的了解加深
02:07
and our relationship with the rest of the animal world,
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加上我们与其他物种关系更加密切
02:09
that we'll give them the respect and protection
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我们会给牠们
02:12
that they deserve.
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应有的尊重和保护
02:13
So that's a wish I'm throwing out here for everybody,
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这就是我要和大家分享的愿望
02:15
and I hope I can really engage you in this idea.
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希望藉此获得各位认同
02:19
Now, I want to return to dolphins,
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回到海豚的主题
02:21
because these are the animals that I feel like
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我和这些动物
02:23
I've been working up closely and personal with
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已经密切合作了
02:26
for over 30 years.
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大概30 多年
02:27
And these are real personalities.
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牠们的确通人性
02:29
They are not persons, but they're personalities
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虽不是人类,但从任何角度来看
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in every sense of the word.
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牠们都很有个性
02:34
And you can't get more alien than the dolphin.
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没有比海豚更独特的生物了
02:37
They are very different from us in body form.
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就形体来说,跟人类就很不一样
02:39
They're radically different. They come from a radically different environment.
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截然不同的牠们,来自一个很特殊的环境
事实上, 9500 万年前我们就在演化上
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In fact, we're separated by 95 million years
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of divergent evolution.
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分道扬镳
02:49
Look at this body.
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看看这副形体
02:51
And in every sense of making a pun here,
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有句各方面都很贴切的双关语
02:54
these are true non-terrestrials.
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海豚真的不是陆(地球)上的生物
02:59
I wondered how we might interface with these animals.
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我曾思索人类和牠们沟通的可能方式
03:02
In the 1980s, I developed an underwater keyboard.
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在八十年代,我研发出水底键盘
03:05
This was a custom-made touch-screen keyboard.
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是特制的触控键盘
03:08
What I wanted to do was give the dolphins choice and control.
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我要的就是让海豚选择和控制
03:11
These are big brains, highly social animals,
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海豚是有高智能的群居动物
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and I thought, well, if we give them choice and control,
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所以我想,如果让他们选择和控制
03:16
if they can hit a symbol on this keyboard --
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如果他们能敲击键盘上的符号
03:18
and by the way, it was interfaced by fiber optic cables
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补充说明一下,键盘是以HP的光纤电缆
03:21
from Hewlett-Packard with an Apple II computer.
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连接Apple II 计算机
03:24
This seems prehistoric now,
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现在看来很落伍
03:26
but this was where we were with technology.
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卻是當時我們可用的科技
03:28
So the dolphins could hit a key, a symbol,
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海豚可敲的每个按键都代表一个符号
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they heard a computer-generated whistle,
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然后听到计算机产生的某种哨音
03:33
and they got an object or activity.
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接着得到物件或活动
03:35
Now here's a little video.
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请看这段短片
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This is Delphi and Pan, and you're going to see Delphi
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Delphi 和Pan,我们要观察的是Delphi
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hitting a key, he hears a computer-generated whistle -- (Whistle) --
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碰按键,听到计算机哨音……拿到球
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and gets a ball, so they can actually ask for things they want.
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所以他们真的可要求想要的东西
03:47
What was remarkable is, they explored this keyboard
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值得注意的是,他们会自己摸索尝试
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on their own. There was no intervention on our part.
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我们并未加以干涉
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They explored the keyboard. They played around with it.
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牠们摸索玩弄键盘
找出运作机制
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They figured out how it worked.
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And they started to quickly imitate the sounds
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随即便能模仿计算机哨音
牠们聆听键盘对应的哨音
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they were hearing on the keyboard.
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04:03
They imitated on their own.
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然后模仿
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Beyond that, though, they started learning
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不只如此,他们还悟出
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associations between the symbols, the sounds
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符号、声音
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and the objects.
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和物件间的关系
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What we saw was self-organized learning,
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牠们所展现的是自主学习
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and now I'm imagining, what can we do
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所以我开始假想
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with new technologies?
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我们是否可用新科技作些应用?
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How can we create interfaces, new windows into
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我们要怎样利用现代科技
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the minds of animals, with the technologies that exist today?
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建立窥探动物思绪的介面
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So I was thinking about this, and then, one day,
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在构思过程中的某一天
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I got a call from Peter.
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我接到Peter的电话
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Peter Gabriel: I make noises for a living.
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Peter Gabriel:我的职业是制造噪音
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On a good day, it's music,
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运气好的时候就会产生音乐
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and I want to talk a little bit about
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我想谈谈
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the most amazing music-making experience I ever had.
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我最棒的音乐制作经验
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I'm a farm boy. I grew up surrounded by animals,
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在农场长大的我,自小便与动物为伍
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and I would look in these eyes and wonder
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我会注视牠们的眼睛并好奇
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what was going on there?
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他们在想甚么?
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So as an adult, when I started to read about
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长大后,当我读到一些重大发现
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the amazing breakthroughs with Penny Patterson and Koko,
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像Penny Patterson和Koko(金刚猩猩)
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with Sue Savage-Rumbaugh and Kanzi, Panbanisha,
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Sue Savage-Rumbaugh 及黑猩猩Kanzi和Panbanisha
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Irene Pepperberg, Alex the parrot,
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Irene Pepperberg及Alex(鹦鹉)
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I got all excited.
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这些研究让我备觉兴奋
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What was amazing to me also
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也很令人惊奇的是
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was they seemed a lot more adept
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相较于我们对动物语言的认识
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at getting a handle on our language
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牠们对人类使用的语言
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than we were on getting a handle on theirs.
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似乎更能进入状况
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I work with a lot of musicians from around the world,
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我和世界各地的音乐家合作时
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and often we don't have any common language at all,
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往往语言不通
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but we sit down behind our instruments,
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但当我们演奏时
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and suddenly there's a way for us to connect and emote.
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彼此间忽然就能沟通抒情
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So I started cold-calling, and eventually got through
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之后我到处拜访致电
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to Sue Savage-Rumbaugh,
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最后终于联络上Sue Savage-Rumbaugh
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and she invited me down.
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她便邀我过去
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I went down, and the bonobos
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我去拜访时
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had had access to percussion instruments,
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那些黑猩猩已学会打击乐玩具
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musical toys, but never before to a keyboard.
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但尚未接触过键盘
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At first they did what infants do,
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起初黑猩猩就像婴儿般
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just bashed it with their fists,
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用拳头猛敲键盘
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and then I asked, through Sue,
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然后我请Sue
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if Panbanisha could try with one finger only.
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要求Panbanisha用一根手指弹
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Sue Savage-Rumbaugh: Can you play a grooming song?
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Sue:弹一首抚慰心灵的歌好吗?
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I want to hear a grooming song.
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我想听轻柔的歌曲
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Play a real quiet grooming song.
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弹一首宁静抚慰的歌给我听
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PG: So groom was the subject of the piece.
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Peter:抚慰是这音乐的主题
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(Music)
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(弹奏音乐)
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So I'm just behind, jamming,
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当时我在后面忙
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yeah, this is what we started with.
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这是我们当时播放的音乐
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Sue's encouraging her to continue a little more.
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Sue 鼓励她多弹一会
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(Music)
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(Panbanisha弹琴)
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She discovers a note she likes,
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牠发现了喜欢的音
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finds the octave.
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还找到八度音
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She'd never sat at a keyboard before.
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牠从未弹过琴
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Nice triplets.
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三连音弹得不错
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SSR: You did good. That was very good.
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Sue: 很棒!弹得真好!
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PG: She hit good.
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牠弹得很棒!
08:17
(Applause)
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(掌声)
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So that night, we began to dream,
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當晚我们就因此想像
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and we thought, perhaps the most amazing tool
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也许人類創造的工具中
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that man's created is the Internet,
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最令人驚奇的就是是互联网
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and what would happen if we could somehow
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如果我们能发现某种
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find new interfaces,
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新视听界面
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visual-audio interfaces that would allow
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好让这些
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these remarkable sentient beings
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与我们共享地球
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that we share the planet with access?
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有非凡感官特质的生物使用
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And Sue Savage-Rumbaugh got excited about that,
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Sue 对此构想觉得很兴奋
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called her friend Steve Woodruff,
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就打电话给她的朋友Steve Woodruff
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and we began hustling all sorts of people
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于是我们热切寻找
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whose work related or was inspiring,
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在相关领域或工作引人入胜的人
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which led us to Diana,
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而Diana和Neil
09:00
and led us to Neil.
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正是我们要找的人
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Neil Gershenfeld: Thanks, Peter. PG: Thank you.
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Neil Gershenfeld: 谢啦! Peter Peter: 谢谢!
(掌声)
09:06
(Applause)
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09:09
NG: So Peter approached me.
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Neil: Peter找我的时候
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I lost it when I saw that clip.
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那段视频简直匪夷所思
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He approached me with a vision of doing these things
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他来找我谈这些事的愿景
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not for people, for animals.
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不是为了人类,而是动物
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And then I was struck in the history of the Internet.
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不过互联网的历史让我灵机一动
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This is what the Internet looked like when it was born
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这是互联网剛問世的样子
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and you can call that the Internet
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或可称为中年白人的互联网
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of middle-aged white men,
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或许这样比较好记
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mostly middle-aged white men.
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像照片中多是中年白种男性
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Vint Cerf: (Laughs)
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Vint Cerf: (笑)
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(Laughter)
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(笑聲持續)
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NG: Speaking as one.
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Neil: 我就是其中一个
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Then, when I first came to TED,
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那时我首次出席TED
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which was where I met Peter, I showed this.
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遇到Peter并给他看这个
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This is a $1 web server,
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我手中拿的是1 元的 网络 服务器
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and at the time that was radical.
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当时这算很先进了!
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And the possibility of making a web server for a dollar
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用一元美金制造服务器的可能性
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grew into what became known as the Internet of Things,
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最后演变成所谓的网络
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which is literally an industry now with tremendous implications
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现在这产业的实质影响深远
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for health care, energy efficiency.
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所及包含卫生保健、能源效率
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And we were happy with ourselves.
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我们也乐在其中
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And then when Peter showed me that,
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所以当Peter给我看他的构想时
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I realized we had missed something,
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我知道我们遗漏了一些东西
就是地球上的其他生物
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which is the rest of the planet.
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So we started up this interspecies Internet project.
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于是我们着手跨物种的互联网计划
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Now we started talking with TED
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于是我们跟TED谈论
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about how you bring dolphins and great apes and elephants
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如何把海豚、大猩猩和大象带来现场
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to TED, and we realized that wouldn't work.
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不过我们后来觉得行不通
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So we're going to bring you to them.
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所以我们要把你们带到牠们面前
10:18
So if we could switch to the audio from this computer,
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若我们将这计算机切换到音效模式
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we've been video conferencing with cognitive animals,
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and we're going to have each of them
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我们会和提过的每一种动物接触
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just briefly introduce them.
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简短介绍一下牠们
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And so if we could also have this up, great.
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接着…还有画面,太好了!
10:29
So the first site we're going to meet
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我们首先要联机的地点是
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is Cameron Park Zoo in Waco, with orangutans.
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威科市(Waco)喀麦隆保护区动物园(Cameron Park Zoo)的红毛猩猩
10:34
In the daytime they live outside. It's nighttime there now.
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牠们白天在户外,不过当地现在是晚上
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So can you please go ahead?
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妳先说
10:40
Terri Cox: Hi, I'm Terri Cox
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Terri Cox:嗨,我是威科市喀麦隆保护区动物园的
10:43
with the Cameron Park Zoo in Waco, Texas,
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泰瑞‧寇克斯
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and with me I have KeraJaan and Mei,
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在我身边的是凯拉乔(KeraJaan)和梅(Mei)
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two of our Bornean orangutans.
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牠们是婆罗洲猩猩(Bornean orangutans)
10:51
During the day, they have a beautiful, large outdoor habitat,
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白天他们有个优美的 大型户外栖息地
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and at night, they come into this habitat,
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晚上则回到这里
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into their night quarters,
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的夜间休息处
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where they can have a climate-controlled
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这里气候适宜
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and secure environment to sleep in.
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环境安全,可以睡覺
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We participate in the Apps for Apes program
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我们加入Orangutan Outreach(红毛猩猩推广组织)的
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Orangutan Outreach, and we use iPads
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猿类应用程序计划,通过iPad帮助
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to help stimulate and enrich the animals,
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激发并丰富动物的生活
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and also help raise awareness
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同时唤醒社会对
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for these critically endangered animals.
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濒危动物的认知
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And they share 97 percent of our DNA
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牠们的DNA 和我们有 97%相同
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and are incredibly intelligent,
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而且很聪明
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so it's so exciting to think of all the opportunities
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所以,想到可借机通过网络和科技手段
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that we have via technology and the Internet
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让他们生活更丰富,视野更开阔
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to really enrich their lives and open up their world.
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我就觉得很兴奋
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We're really excited about the possibility
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我们对跨物种网络的潜力
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of an interspecies Internet,
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非常期待
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and K.J. has been enjoying the conference very much.
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凯拉乔(K.J.)对视讯始终非常投入
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NG: That's great. When we were rehearsing last night,
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Neil:这是好事!我们昨晚彩排时
他兴趣盎然地看着大象
11:46
he had fun watching the elephants.
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11:47
Next user group are the dolphins at the National Aquarium.
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下一组用户是国家水族馆的海豚
11:51
Please go ahead.
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请说吧
11:53
Allison Ginsburg: Good evening.
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Allison Ginsburg: 晚上好。
11:54
Well, my name is Allison Ginsburg,
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我是艾利森-金斯伯格(Allison Ginsburg)
我们在巴尔的摩的国家水族馆
11:56
and we're live in Baltimore at the National Aquarium.
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我身后是我们八只大西洋宽吻海豚中的三只
11:59
Joining me are three of our eight Atlantic bottlenose dolphins:
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12:02
20-year-old Chesapeake, who was our first dolphin born here,
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彻萨皮克(Chesapeake)20 岁,是这里出生的第一只海豚
12:05
her four-year-old daughter Bayley,
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她4岁的女儿贝利(Chesapeake)
12:08
and her half sister, 11-year-old Maya.
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还有她同母异父的姐姐,11 岁的玛雅(Maya)
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Now, here at the National Aquarium
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这里是国家水族馆
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we are committed to excellence in animal care,
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我们竭力提升
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to research, and to conservation.
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动物照看、研究和保护
12:19
The dolphins are pretty intrigued as to what's going on here tonight.
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海豚对今晚的事很好奇
12:22
They're not really used to having cameras here
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他们不太习惯
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at 8 o'clock at night.
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晚间八点上镜头
12:26
In addition, we are very committed to doing
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此外,我们还致力于
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different types of research.
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不同类型的研究
12:30
As Diana mentioned, our animals are involved
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如Diana所说,我们的动物都参与了
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in many different research studies.
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许多不同的研究
12:46
NG: Those are for you.
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Neil:就这些
12:50
Okay, that's great, thank you.
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好的,不错!谢谢!
12:52
And the third user group, in Thailand,
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下面是来自泰国的第三组用户
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is Think Elephants. Go ahead, Josh.
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国际关怀大象组织的Josh,换你了!
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Josh Plotnik: Hi, my name is Josh Plotnik,
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Josh Plotnik: 嗨,我的名字是Josh Plotnik
13:01
and I'm with Think Elephants International,
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我在国际关怀大象组织(TEI)工作
13:04
and we're here in the Golden Triangle of Thailand
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我们目前在泰国金三角的
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with the Golden Triangle Asian Elephant Foundation elephants.
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金三角亚洲象基金会
13:09
And we have 26 elephants here,
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这里有 26 头大象
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and our research is focused on the evolution of intelligence with elephants,
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我们的研究重点是大象智力的演进
13:16
but our foundation Think Elephants is focused
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不过国际关怀大象组织认更注重
13:18
on bringing elephants into classrooms around the world
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让大象融入全球各地的教学现场
13:21
virtually like this and showing people
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就像现场这样展示
13:23
how incredible these animals are.
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这些动物有多不可思议
13:25
So we're able to bring the camera right up to the elephant,
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我们可以近距离拍摄大象
13:28
put food into the elephant's mouth,
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喂他食物
13:30
show people what's going on inside their mouths,
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让人了解大象咀嚼的过程
13:32
and show everyone around the world
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让全球的人知道
13:34
how incredible these animals really are.
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大象有多棒
13:37
NG: Okay, that's great. Thanks Josh.
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Neil: 这真的很不错!谢谢Josh
13:40
And once again, we've been building great relationships
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同样,从彩排开始我们就在建立
13:42
among them just since we've been rehearsing.
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他们之间的密切关系
13:44
So at that point, if we can go back to the other computer,
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假设那时我们可看到其他计算机
13:47
we were starting to think about how you integrate
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当时我们就想,要如何
13:49
the rest of the biomass of the planet into the Internet,
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以网络整合地球上的其他生物
13:52
and we went to the best possible person
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于是我们找了我能想到的最佳人选
13:55
I can think of, which is Vint Cerf,
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文特-瑟夫(Vint Cerf)
13:58
who is one of the founders who gave us the Internet. Vint?
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网络的创始者之一。文特?
14:01
VC: Thank you, Neil.
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VC: 谢谢你,Neil
14:03
(Applause)
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(掌声)
14:07
A long time ago in a galaxy — oops, wrong script.
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久远前的星系…… 哎呀,拿错稿子了!
14:12
Forty years ago, Bob Kahn and I
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40年前,我和鲍勃-卡恩(Bob Kahn)
14:14
did the design of the Internet.
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共同设计网络
14:16
Thirty years ago, we turned it on.
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10年后,我们使之开启
14:18
Just last year, we turned on the production Internet.
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就在去年,我们启动了正式版网络
14:22
You've been using the experimental version
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过去的30年来
14:24
for the last 30 years.
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大众使用的其实是试验版
14:25
The production version, it uses IP version 6.
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正式版用的是因特网通讯协议第6版(IPv6)
14:28
It has 3.4 times 10 to the 38th possible terminations.
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支持约3.4 ×10^38个可能的地址
14:33
That's a number only that Congress can appreciate.
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这种数字只有美国国会喜欢
14:37
But it leads to what is coming next.
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但攸关未来发展
14:41
When Bob and I did this design,
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鲍勃和我当初的设计
14:43
we thought we were building a system to connect computers together.
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是要建立连接计算机的系统
14:47
What we very quickly discovered
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但我们随即发现
14:49
is that this was a system for connecting people together.
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事实上这是一个连接人群的系统
14:52
And what you've seen tonight
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而各位今晚所见
14:54
tells you that we should not restrict this network
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告诉大家我们不应将网络
14:58
to one species,
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局限于单一物种
15:01
that these other intelligent, sentient species
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其他有感官智能的物种
15:04
should be part of the system too.
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也应涵盖在内
15:07
This is the system as it looks today, by the way.
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目前的网络系统就是这样子的,还有
15:09
This is what the Internet looks like to a computer
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这也是计算机演绎出的互联网架构
15:12
that's trying to figure out where the traffic
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这架构试图找出
15:15
is supposed to go.
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网络连结的方式
15:16
This is generated by a program
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这图是由一个
15:19
that's looking at the connectivity of the Internet,
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观察网络连接的程序算出
15:22
and how all the various networks are connected together.
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这程序也观察不同网络间的连接方式
15:25
There are about 400,000 networks, interconnected,
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大约有40万,分别由40万不同机构独立运作
15:28
run independently by 400,000 different operating agencies,
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的网络互相连结
15:33
and the only reason this works
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这模式能运作的唯一解释
15:34
is that they all use the same standard TCP/IP protocols.
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就是他们使用相同标准的TCP/IP 通讯协议
15:38
Well, you know where this is headed.
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各位知道这发展的趋势
15:41
The Internet of Things tell us
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物联网(The Internet of Things)的启示就是
15:43
that a lot of computer-enabled appliances and devices
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很多计算机兼容的装置设备
15:47
are going to become part of this system too:
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将成为此系统的一部分
15:50
appliances that you use around the house,
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像家电
15:52
that you use in your office,
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办公设备
15:54
that you carry around with yourself or in the car.
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随身电器或汽车装置
15:57
That's the Internet of Things that's coming.
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这就是即将来临的物联网
15:59
Now, what's important about what these people are doing
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而这些人目前所做的事之所以重要
16:02
is that they're beginning to learn
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是因为他们正学着
16:04
how to communicate with species
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如何与
16:07
that are not us
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人类以外、与我们共享
16:09
but share a common sensory environment.
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感官环境的物种沟通
16:12
We're beginning to explore what it means
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我们开始探讨
16:14
to communicate with something
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与其他物种沟通
16:16
that isn't just another person.
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的意义
16:18
Well, you can see what's coming next.
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各位可以预料事情的发展
16:21
All kinds of possible sentient beings
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所有感官物种
16:24
may be interconnected through this system,
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皆可通过此系统相互连接
我恨不得立刻看到这些实验开始进行
16:26
and I can't wait to see these experiments unfold.
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16:29
What happens after that?
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那么结果如何呢?
16:31
Well, let's see.
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我们拭目以待
16:33
There are machines that need to talk to machines
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机器间需要传输沟通
16:37
and that we need to talk to, and so as time goes on,
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我们也需要和机器沟通,因此
16:40
we're going to have to learn
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我们需要与时俱进
16:42
how to communicate with computers
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学习如何与计算机沟通
16:43
and how to get computers to communicate with us
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学习如何让计算机以我们习惯的方式
16:46
in the way that we're accustomed to,
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与我们对话
16:48
not with keyboards, not with mice,
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不是靠键盘或鼠标
16:51
but with speech and gestures
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而是通过说话和手势
16:53
and all the natural human language that we're accustomed to.
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以及所有人类惯用的沟通方式
16:56
So we'll need something like C3PO
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因此我们需要 C3PO(星际大战中的金色机器人)这类的
16:58
to become a translator between ourselves
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帮我们与日常所用的
17:01
and some of the other machines we live with.
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其他机器沟通
17:03
Now, there is a project that's underway
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目前有个进行中的计划
17:06
called the interplanetary Internet.
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叫作星际互联网
17:08
It's in operation between Earth and Mars.
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它在地球和火星间运作
17:10
It's operating on the International Space Station.
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在国际太空站进行
17:13
It's part of the spacecraft that's in orbit around the Sun
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是一艘宇宙飞船的组件
17:17
that's rendezvoused with two planets.
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飞船绕行太阳轨道时曾与两行星会合
17:19
So the interplanetary system is on its way,
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星际互联网尚在发展中
17:21
but there's a last project,
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不过有个最近完成的计划
17:23
which the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency,
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是国防高等研究计划署(DARPA)
17:26
which funded the original ARPANET,
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也就是资助过初版阿帕网(APPANET)的单位
17:28
funded the Internet, funded the interplanetary architecture,
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他们也资助互联网、 星际演绎程序
17:31
is now funding a project to design a spacecraft
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不过目前投资的是一艘航天器的设计
17:34
to get to the nearest star in 100 years' time.
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以达成100 年内抵达最近恒星的目标
17:39
What that means is that what we're learning
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其意义就是我们目前研究的范围
17:41
with these interactions with other species
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也就是跨物种沟通
17:43
will teach us, ultimately,
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最终会使我们明白
17:45
how we might interact with an alien from another world.
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我们与外星人的可能互动方式
17:49
I can hardly wait.
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我已经迫不急待了!
17:52
(Applause)
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(掌声)
17:59
June Cohen: So first of all, thank you,
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June Cohen: 首先,谢谢你们
18:00
and I would like to acknowledge that four people
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我得承认你们四人
18:03
who could talk to us for full four days
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本来可以谈上整整四天的
18:05
actually managed to stay to four minutes each,
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但你们充分运用每人分配到的四分钟
18:07
and we thank you for that.
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我们对此心怀感激
18:08
I have so many questions,
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我有很多问题想问
18:10
but maybe a few practical things that the audience might want to know.
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但观众也许想知道几个实际的问题
你们在此发表这个构想 Peter: 今天第一次
18:13
You're launching this idea here at TED — PG: Today.
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18:16
JC: Today. This is the first time you're talking about it.
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June:所以,今天是你们首次发表
18:17
Tell me a little bit about where you're going to take the idea.
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能否透漏这构想的未来发展?
下一步呢?
18:20
What's next?
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18:21
PG: I think we want to engage as many people
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Peter:我们希望尽可能有更多人加入
18:24
here as possible in helping us
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并协助我们
18:26
think of smart interfaces that will make all this possible.
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设计智能界面来实现这一切
18:30
NG: And just mechanically,
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Neil:在制度方面
18:32
there's a 501(c)(3) and web infrastructure
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目前已有一非营利组织和 网络基础建设
18:34
and all of that, but it's not quite ready to turn on,
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尽管如此,一切尚未就绪
18:36
so we'll roll that out, and contact us
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但我们会完成,如需相关信息
18:38
if you want the information on it.
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请和我们联系
18:40
The idea is this will be -- much like the Internet functions
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这构想会很像互联网的功能
18:43
as a network of networks,
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变成网络的网络
18:44
which is Vint's core contribution,
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这正是文特投入最多的地方
18:46
this will be a wrapper around all of these initiatives,
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将会是一个集大成的综合计划
18:48
that are wonderful individually, to link them globally.
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连结全球杰出的个别计划
18:51
JC: Right, and do you have a web address
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June:好的,你有网址吗?
18:52
that we might look for yet?
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说不定我们可以去浏览
18:53
NG: Shortly. JC: Shortly. We will come back to you on that.
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Neil:等会儿就给妳 JC::那待会再找你们
18:56
And very quickly, just to clarify.
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可否请你们再简单说明一下
19:00
Some people might have looked at the video that you showed
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有些人可能已看过现场播过的视频
19:02
and thought, well, that's just a webcam.
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而且认为这不过就是网络视频
19:03
What's special about it?
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到底哪里特别呢?
19:04
If you could talk for just a moment
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可否请你们再说明一下
19:06
about how you want to go past that?
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要如何更上一层楼?
19:08
NG: So this is scalable video infrastructure,
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Neil: 这套公共视讯系统是可扩展的
19:11
not for a few to a few but many to many,
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能提供多对多的服务,而非只是几个对几个而已
19:14
so that it scales to symmetrical video sharing
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所以可经由全球据点扩充
19:17
and content sharing across these sites around the planet.
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来进行对等视频或内容共享
19:20
So there's a lot of back-end signal processing,
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因此有许多的后端信号处理
19:23
not for one to many, but for many to many.
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不是一对多而已,而是多对多
19:25
JC: Right, and then on a practical level,
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June:好的,再从实际来看
19:27
which technologies are you looking at first?
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什么是你们最想开发的技术?
19:28
I know you mentioned that a keyboard is a really key part of this.
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我知道你们提过键盘是很重要的部分
19:32
DR: We're trying to develop an interactive touch screen for dolphins.
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Diana:我们正尝试着研发海豚用的触控屏幕
19:35
This is sort of a continuation of some of the earlier work,
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其中有一些可以说是早期研究的延续
我们今天刚得到第一笔创投资金
19:38
and we just got our first seed money today towards that,
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so it's our first project.
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这是我们的第一个计划
19:42
JC: Before the talk, even. DR: Yeah.
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June:早在今天到现场之前就有了? Diana:没错?
19:44
JC: Wow. Well done.
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June:哇哦,做得不错呢!
19:45
All right, well thank you all so much for joining us.
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非常感谢你们今年来到现场
19:47
It's such a delight to have you on the stage.
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听你们在台上分享,真是太棒了!
19:50
DR: Thank you. VC: Thank you.
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Diana: 谢谢你! Vint: 谢谢!
19:51
(Applause)
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