A queer vision of love and marriage | Tiq Milan and Kim Katrin Milan

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Prevodilac: Milenka Okuka Lektor: Mile Živković
00:12
Tiq Milan: Our first conversation was on Facebook,
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Tik Milan: Naš prvi razgovor je bio na Fejsbuku
00:15
and it was three days long.
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i trajao je tri dana.
00:17
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
00:19
We shared over 3,000 messages between us,
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Razmenili smo međusobno preko 3000 poruka,
00:21
and it was during those 72 hours that I knew she was going to be my wife.
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i tokom ta 72 sata sam shvatio da će da mi bude supruga.
00:26
We didn't wait any prerequisite amount of time for our courtship;
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Nismo čekali na očekivanu količinu vremena za naše udvaranje;
00:29
we told each other the vulnerable truths up front:
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unapred smo jedno drugom rekli ranjive istine:
00:32
I am a transgender man,
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ja sam transrodni muškarac,
00:33
which means the F on my birth certificate should have stood for "False,"
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što će reći da bi Ž na mom izvodu trebalo da predstavlja "živa neistina"
00:37
instead of "Female."
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umesto "ženski".
00:38
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
00:39
Walking around as a woman in the world
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Dok sam hodao kroz svet kao žena
00:41
felt like walking with pebbles in my shoes.
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osećao sam kao da hodam s kamenčićima u cipelama.
00:44
It took the rhythm out of my swagger,
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Moje geganje je bilo bez ritma,
00:46
it threw me off balance,
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gubio sam ravnotežu,
00:47
it pained me with every step I took forward.
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svaki korak napred me je boleo.
00:49
But today I'm a man of my own intention;
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Ali danas sam po sopstvenoj volji muškarac;
00:52
a man of my own design.
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muškarac po sopstvenoj kreaciji.
00:54
Kim Katrin Milan: I am a cisgender queer woman.
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Kim Katrin Milan: Ja sam cisrodna kvir žena.
00:57
Cisgender means the gender I was assigned at birth
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Cisrodnost znači da rod koji mi je određen po rođenju
00:59
is still and has always been female.
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još uvek jeste i uvek je bio ženski.
01:02
This doesn't make me natural or normal,
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Zbog toga nisam prirodna ili normalna,
01:05
this is just one way of describing the many different ways
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to je samo jedan od načina da se opišu brojni različiti načini
01:08
that we exist in this world.
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na koje postojimo u svetu.
01:10
And queer is a cultural term,
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A kvir je kulturološki termin,
01:12
but in this case,
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ali u ovom slučaju
01:13
it refers to the way that I'm not restricted by gender
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se odnosi na to da nisam ograničena rodom
01:15
when it comes to choosing partners.
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kada se radi o izboru partnera.
01:17
I've identified in a few different ways --
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Određuju me na nekoliko različitih načina -
01:19
as a bisexual, as a lesbian --
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kao biseksualku, kao lezbejku -
01:21
but for me,
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ali što se mene tiče
01:22
queerness encompasses all of the layers of who I am and how I've loved.
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biti kvir obuhvata sve slojeve onoga ko sam i kako volim.
01:27
I'm layers, and not fractions.
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Ja sam od slojeva, a ne od frakcija.
01:30
And for me,
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A za mene
01:31
the fact that he was queer
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je činjenica da je on kvir
01:32
meant that I could trust his courtship from the very beginning.
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značila da mogu da verujem njegovom udvaranju od samog početka.
01:36
As queer and trans people,
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Kao kvir i transrodni ljudi
01:37
we're so often excluded from institutions and traditions.
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prečesto nas isključuju iz institucija i tradicija.
01:41
We create spaces outside of convention,
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Stvaramo prostore van konvencija,
01:44
including the conventions of time.
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uključujući konvencije vremena.
01:46
And in those 3,000 messages between us,
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A u tih 3000 poruka između nas,
01:49
we collapsed time;
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zaustavili smo vreme;
01:51
we queered it;
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iskrivili smo ga;
01:52
we laid it all on the table.
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sve smo izneli na čistac.
01:54
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
01:55
With no pretense at all.
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Bez ikakvog pretvaranja.
01:57
And this meant that we were able to commit to each other
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To znači da smo bili u stanju da se posvetimo jedno drugom
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in a profoundly different way.
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na istinski različite načine.
02:02
So often what we're told is this idea of the "Golden Rule,"
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Prečesto nam govore o nekakvoj ideji "zlatnog pravila",
02:06
that we should treat other people the way we want to be treated.
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da bi trebalo da tretiramo druge kako želimo da se prema nama odnose.
02:10
But the problem with that
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No problem s tim
02:11
is that it assumes that we are the standard for other people,
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je u pretpostavci da smo mi standard za druge ljude,
02:14
and we're not.
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a nismo.
02:15
We need to treat other people the way they want to be treated,
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Moramo da tretiramo druge kako oni žele da se odnosimo prema njima,
02:19
which means we had to ask.
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što znači da moramo da pitamo.
02:21
I couldn't assume that the kind of love that Tiq needed
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Nisam pretpostavljala da je ljubav koja je potrebna Tiku
02:23
was the same kind of love that I needed.
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ista ona koja je potrebna meni.
02:25
So I asked him everything -- about his fears, his insecurities --
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Pa sam ga pitala o svemu - o njegovim strahovima, nesigurnostima -
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and we started from there.
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i počeli smo odatle.
02:31
TM: I didn't know what kind of love I needed.
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TM: Nisam znao kakva mi je ljubav potrebna.
02:34
I had just come out of a year-long fog
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Upravo sam bio izašao iz jednogodišnje magle,
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of being rejected and utterly depleted.
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bio sam odbačen i krajnje iscrpljen.
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I had someone look me in my eyes
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Neko me je pogledao u oči
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and tell me that I was unworthy of their love because I was trans.
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i rekao mi da nisam vredan njegove ljubavi jer sam transrodan.
02:44
And there's a culture of lovelessness
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I postoji kultura odsustva ljubavi
02:46
that we've created around transgender people.
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koju smo stvorili oko transrodnih ljudi.
02:48
It's reasoned, justified and often signed into law.
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Ona je obrazložena, opravdana i često zakonski regulisana.
02:51
And I was a heartbeat away from internalizing that message,
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I bio sam za dlaku daleko od internalizacije te poruke
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that I wasn't worthy.
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da sam bezvredan.
02:56
But Kim said that I was her ideal --
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No Kim je rekla da sam njoj idealan -
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the heartbroken mess that I was.
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takav nered slomljenog srca.
02:59
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
03:01
KKM: He totally was my ideal.
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KKM: Skroz je bio idealan.
03:03
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
03:04
In more ways than one.
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Na više načina.
03:05
Both poets, writers, creatives
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I kao pesnici, pisci, kreativci
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with a long history of community work behind us,
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s dugom istorijom rada u zajednici iza nas
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and big, huge dreams of a family in front of us,
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i s velikim, ogromnim snovima o porodici ispred nas,
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we shared a lot of things in common,
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mnogo toga nam je bilo zajedničko,
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but we were also incredibly different.
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ali smo bili i neverovatno različiti.
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I've been a lifelong traveler and a bit of an orphan,
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Ja sam čitav život bila putnica i na neki način siroče,
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whereas he comes from a huge family,
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dok on potiče iz ogromne porodice
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and definitely stays grounded.
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i definitivno je usidren.
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I often kind of sum up the differences in our strengths
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Često sumiram razlike u našim jačim stranama
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by saying, "Keep me safe,
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rečima: "Pruži mi bezbednost
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and I'll keep you wild."
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i ja ću ti pružiti slobodu."
03:30
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
03:34
TM: We have marginalized identities but we don't live marginalized lives.
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TM: Imamo marginalizovane identitete, ali ne živimo marginalizovane živote.
03:39
Being queer and trans is about creating new ways of existing.
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Kad ste kvir i transrodni radi se o stvaranju novih vidova postojanja.
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It's about loving people as they are,
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O tome da volite ljude kakvi jesu,
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not as they're supposed to be.
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a ne kakvi bi trebalo da budu.
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Kim is unapologetically feminine
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Kim je ženstvena bez pardona
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in a world that is often cruel and violent
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u svetu koji je često okrutan i nasilan
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to women who are too proud and too freeing.
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prema ženama koje su suviše ponosne i slobodne.
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And I didn't enter into this union
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I ja nisam ušao u ovu zajednicu
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under the auspices that she was going to be my helper or my rib,
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pod pretpostavkom da će ona da mi bude pomoćnik ili rebro,
03:58
but a fully complex --
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već krajnje složeno -
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
04:01
KKM: Right? That's not right.
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KKM: Zar ne? To nije ispravno.
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TM: But a fully complex human being
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TM: Već krajnje složeno ljudsko biće
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whose femininity wasn't for me to rein in, control or critique.
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čija ženstvenost nije tu da bih njome vladao, upravljao ili je kritikovao.
04:09
It's her brilliance,
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To je njena briljantnost,
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the way she leads with compassion,
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način na koji predvodi saosećajno
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and how she never loses sight of her empathy.
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i kako nikad ne gubi iz vida svoju empatiju.
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She has been my hero since day one.
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Od prvog dana je bila moj heroj.
04:18
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
04:21
KKM: Our relationship has always been about setting each other free.
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KKM: Naš odnos je oduvek bio o oslobađanju jedno drugog.
04:25
One of the first questions I asked him
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Među prvim pitanjima koje sam ga pitala
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was what dreams he had left to accomplish,
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je bilo koje snove nije još uvek ostvario
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and how would I help him get there.
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i kako da mu pomognem da u tome uspe.
04:31
His dreams to live as a poet,
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Njegovi snovi da živi kao pesnik,
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to adopt and raise a family together,
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da usvoji i podigne porodicu sa mnom,
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to live a life that he was proud of,
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da živi život na koji je ponosan
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and one that would live up to his mother's incredible legacy.
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i koji će dosegnuti neverovatno zaveštanje njegove majke.
04:41
And I really appreciated that we were able to start from that place,
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I ja sam zaista cenila to što smo mogli krenuti odatle,
04:44
and not from a place that was around figuring out
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a ne s mesta na kom bismo razumevali
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how to make each other work together.
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kako da zajedno funkcionišemo.
04:49
And I think this really allowed us to grow into the people that we were
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A smatram da nam je ovo zaista omogućilo da odrastemo u ljude koji jesmo
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in a way that was incredibly different.
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na izuzetno drugačiji način.
04:55
I love him whole;
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Volim ga u potpunosti;
04:57
pre-transition, now and in the future.
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pre prelaza, sada i u budućnosti.
04:59
And it's this love that had us committed to each other
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A zbog ove ljubavi smo se posvetili jedno drugom,
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before we'd even seen each other's faces.
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čak pre nego što smo videli jedno drugom lice.
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TM: My mother's biggest concern when I transitioned
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TM: Najveća briga moje majke kad sam promenio rod
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was who was going to love me as I am.
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je bila ko će da me voli ovakvog.
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Had being transgender somehow precluded me from love and monogamy
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Da li me transrodnost nekako isključuje iz ljubavi i monogamije
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because I was supposedly born in the wrong body?
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jer sam navodno rođen u pogrešnom telu?
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But it's this type of structuring that has to be reframed
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Ali ovakav vid uobličavanja mora da bude preformulisan
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in order to let love in.
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kako bismo prihvatili ljubav.
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My body never betrayed me,
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Moje telo me nikad nije izdalo
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and my body was never wrong.
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i moje telo nikad nije bilo pogrešno,
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It's this restrictive, binary thinking on gender
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već ovo ograničavajuće, binarno razmišljanje o rodu
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that said that I didn't exist.
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koje tvrdi da ja ne postojim.
05:34
But when we met,
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Ali kad smo se upoznali,
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she loved me for exactly how I showed up.
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zavolela me je baš onakvog kakav sam bio.
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She would trace her fingers along the numb keloid scars
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Prstima bi prelazila niz otupele keloidne ožiljke
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left by my top surgery.
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od operacija na mom torzu.
05:42
Scars that run from the middle of my chest all the way out to my outer torso.
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Ožiljke koji idu od sredine mojih grudi skroz do spoljašnje strane mog torza.
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She said that these were reminders of my strength
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Rekla je da su to podsetnici moje snage
05:49
and everything that I went through
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i svega kroz šta sam prošao
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and nothing for me to be ashamed of.
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i da nema razloga da ih se stidim.
05:53
So sprinting towards her hand in marriage
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Pa je hrljenje u brak s njom
bilo nešto najčudnije što sam mogao da uradim.
05:55
was the queerest thing that I could do.
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05:57
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
05:59
It flew in the face of more conventional trajectories
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Udaralo je šamar konvencionalnijim putanjama
06:02
of love and relationships,
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ljubavi i veza,
06:04
because God was never supposed to bless a union for folks like us,
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jer bog nikad ne bi trebalo da blagoslovi zajednicu ljudi poput nas,
06:07
and the law was never supposed to recognize it.
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a zakon nikad ne bi trebalo da je prepozna.
06:10
KKM: So on May 5, 2014,
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KKM: Stoga, 5. maja 2014,
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just about three months after meeting online,
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svega oko tri meseca nakon našeg susreta na internetu,
06:17
we were married on the steps of City Hall in Manhattan,
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venčali smo se na stepenicama zgrade opštine na Menhetnu
06:21
and it was beautiful in every conceivable way.
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i bilo je prelepo na sve zamislive načine.
06:25
It's safe to say that we reimagined some traditions,
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Možemo slobodno reći da smo nanovo osmislili neke tradicije,
06:29
but we also kept some old ones that we worked in,
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ali smo i zadržali neke stare koje smo preradili
06:31
and we created something that worked for us.
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i stvorili smo nešto što je nama bilo dobro.
06:34
My bouquet and corsage was actually filled with wildflowers from Brooklyn --
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Moj buket i korsaž su zapravo bili od poljskog cveća iz Bruklina -
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also added in a little bit of lavender and sage to keep us grounded
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takođe je dodato malo lavande i žalfije da nas drži pri zemlji
06:43
because we were so nervous.
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jer smo bili veoma nervozni.
06:45
And it was put together by a sweet sister healer friend of ours.
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I to je sastavila naša draga sestra isceliteljka.
06:48
I never wanted a diamond ring,
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Nisam želela dijamantski prsten
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because conflict and convention are not my thing,
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jer konflikti i konvencije nisu u mom maniru,
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so my ring is the deepest purple,
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te je moj prsten najtamnije ljubičaste boje,
06:54
like the color of my crown chakra,
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poput boje moje glavne čakre
06:56
and set in place with my birthstones.
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i uklopljen je sa mojim astrološkim kamenjem.
06:59
The gift of queerness is options.
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Dar kvirnoće je u opcijama.
07:01
I never had to choose his last name,
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Nisam morala da uzmem njegovo prezime,
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it was never an exception,
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nikad nije bilo izuzetak,
07:04
but I did because I am my father's bastard child,
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ali jesam jer sam kopile mog oca,
07:08
someone who has always been an apology, a secret, an imposition.
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neko ko je oduvek bio izvinjenje, tajna, teret.
07:12
And it was incredibly freeing
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I bilo je izuzetno oslobađajuće
07:14
to choose the name of a man who chose me first.
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izabrati prezime čoveka kome sam bila prvi izbor.
07:17
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
07:24
TM: So we told some family and some close friends,
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TM: Obavestili smo neke članove porodice i bliske prijatelje,
07:27
many of whom were still in disbelief as we took our vows.
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mnogi od njih su i dalje bili u neverici dok smo izgovarali zavete.
07:32
Fittingly, we posted all of our wedding photos on Facebook,
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Kako je i red, postavili smo sve slike s našeg venčanja na Fejsbuk
07:35
where we met --
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gde smo se upoznali -
07:36
and Instagram, of course.
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i na Instagram, naravno.
07:38
And we quickly realized
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I ubrzo smo shvatili
07:40
that our coming together was more than just a union of two people,
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da naša zajednica nije samo unija dvoje ljudi,
07:43
but was a model of possibility for the millions of LGBTQ folks
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već da je to primer mogućnosti za milione LGBTK ljudi
07:47
who have been sold this lie
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kojima je prodana ta laž
07:48
that family and matrimony is antithetical to who they are --
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da su porodica i brak antiteza onome što su oni -
07:51
for those of us who rarely get to see ourselves
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za sve nas koji retko viđamo
07:54
reflected in love and happiness.
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svoj odraz u ljubavi i sreći.
07:56
KKM: And the thing is,
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KKM: A radi se o tome
07:57
absolutely we are marginalized because of our identities,
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da smo potpuno marginalizovani zbog naših identiteta,
08:00
but it also emboldens us to be the people that we are.
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ali nas to i ohrabruje da budemo ljudi koji jesmo.
08:04
Queerness is our major key;
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Kvirnoća je naša ključna karakteristika;
08:05
blackness is our magic.
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crna koža je naša magija.
08:07
It's because of these things
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Zbog svega ovoga
08:09
that we are able to be hopeful, open, receptive and shape-shifting.
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smo sposobni da se nadamo, otvorimo, budemo prijemčivi i preobražajni.
08:14
These are the things that give us,
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Sve ovo nam pruža snagu
08:16
and are such an incredible source of, our strength.
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i izuzetan je izvor naše strage.
08:19
Our queerness is a source of that strength.
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Naša kvirnoća je izvor te snage.
08:21
I think of the words of Ottawa-based poet Brandon Wint:
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Sećam se reči pesnika iz Otave Brendona Vita:
08:25
"Not queer like gay; queer like escaping definition.
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"Ne kvir kao gej; kvir kao neko ko izmiče određenjima.
08:29
Queer like some sort of fluidity and limitlessness all at once.
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Kvir poput nekakve fluidnosti i bezgraničnosti istovremeno.
08:33
Queer like a freedom too strange to be conquered.
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Kvir poput slobode isuviše čudne da bi je osvojili.
08:36
Queer like the fearlessness to imagine what love can look like,
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Kvir poput odvažnosti da zamislimo kako ljubav može da izgleda
08:40
and to pursue it."
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i da tragamo za njom."
08:42
TM: We are part of a community of folks --
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TM: Mi smo deo zajednice ljudi -
08:44
Yeah, that's good right?
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Da, to je dobro, zar ne?
08:45
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
08:48
We are part of a community of folks who are living their authentic selves
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Deo smo zajednice ljudi koji žive na sebi svojstven način
08:52
all along the gender spectrum,
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duž rodnog spektra,
08:54
despite the ubiquitous threat of violence,
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uprkos sveprisutnoj pretnji od nasilja,
08:57
despite the undercurrent of anxiety that always is present
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uprkos pritajenom nespokoju koji je uvek prisutan
09:00
for people who live on their own terms.
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kod ljudi koji žive po svojim pravilima.
09:02
Globally, a transgender person is murdered every 21 hours.
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Globalno, transrodna osoba je ubijena na svaki 21 sat.
09:07
And the United States has had more trans murders on record this year
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A SAD su imale više zabeleženih ubistava transrodnih osoba ove godine
09:13
than any year to date.
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nego bilo koje godine do sad.
09:15
However, our stories are much more than this rigid dichotomy
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Međutim, naše priče su daleko iznad ove krute dihotomije
09:19
of strength and resilience.
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snage i otpornosti.
09:20
We are expanding the human complexity on these margins,
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Rastežemo ljudsku složenost na ovim marginama
09:24
and we are creating freedom on these margins.
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i stvaramo slobodu na ovim marginama.
09:28
KKM: And we don't have any blueprints.
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KKM: I nemamo bilo kakve nacrte.
09:30
We're creating a world that we have literally never seen before;
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Stvaramo svet koji bukvalno nikad pre nismo videli;
09:34
organizing families based on love and not by blood,
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formiramo porodice na osnovu ljubavi, a ne krvi,
09:38
guiding by a compassion that so few of us have been shown ourselves.
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vođeni saosećanjem koje je nekolicina nas pokazala sebi samima.
09:42
So many of us have not received love from our families --
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Toliko nas nije dobilo ljubav iz naših porodica -
09:46
have been betrayed by the people that we trust most.
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izdali su nas ljudi kojima smo najviše verovali.
09:49
So what we do here is we create entirely new languages of love.
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Stoga mi ovde stvaramo potpuno nove jezike ljubavi,
09:54
Ones that are about creating the space for us to be our authentic selves
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kod kojih se radi o stvaranju prostora u kom bismo bili istinski mi,
09:58
and not imposing this standard
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a koji ne nameću standarad
10:00
of what masculinity or femininity is supposed to be.
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o tome šta bi muževnost ili ženstvenost trebalo da budu.
10:04
TM: We are interested in love and inclusion
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TM: Nas zanima ljubav i inkluzija
10:07
as a tool of revolutionary change, right?
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kao oruđa revolucionarne promene, zar ne?
10:10
And the idea is simply,
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A zamisao je prosta,
10:11
if we drop all our preconceived notions
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ako napustimo sve pretpostavke
10:13
about how somebody is supposed to be --
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o tome kakav bi neko trebalo da bude -
10:16
in their body, in their gender, in their skin --
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u svom telu, u svom rodu, u svojoj koži -
10:19
if we take the intentional steps to unlearn these deep-seated biases
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ako napravimo voljne korake da zaboravimo ove ukorenjene predrasude
10:22
and create space for people to be self-determined,
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i stvorimo prostor za ljude da budu samoodlučni
10:25
and embrace who they are,
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i da prigrle to ko su,
10:26
then we will definitely create a better world than the one we were born into.
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onda ćemo definitivno stvoriti bolji svet od onog u kom smo rođeni.
10:30
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
10:37
KKM: We want to mark this time in history
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KKM: Želimo da obeležimo ovaj istorijski momenat
10:39
by leaving evidence of the fact that we were here.
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ostavljajući dokaz činjenice da smo bili tu.
10:43
We open up little windows into our relationship
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Otvaramo prozorčiće u naše odnose
10:46
for our community to bear witness,
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za naše zajednice da budu svedoci,
10:47
and we do this because we want to make maps to the future
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a radimo to jer želimo da napravimo mape za budućnost,
10:50
and not monuments to ourselves.
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a ne spomenike nama samima.
10:53
Our experience does not invalidate other peoples' experience,
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Naše iskustvo ne poništava iskustva drugih ljudi,
10:57
but it should and necessarily does complicate this idea
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ali bi trebalo, i nužno to radi, da komplikuje samu zamisao
11:00
of what love and marriage are supposed to be.
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o tome šta bi ljubav i brak trebalo da budu.
11:04
TM: OK, now for all the talking,
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TM: U redu, uz svu priču,
11:06
and inspiring,
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i inspirativnost
11:08
and possibility-modeling we've done,
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i dostignuće oblikovanja mogućnosti,
11:09
we've been nowhere near perfect.
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nismo ni blizu savršeni.
11:11
And we've had to hold a mirror up to ourselves.
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I morali smo da držimo ogledalo nama samima.
11:14
And I saw that I wasn't always the best listener,
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I ja sam uvideo da nisam uvek najbolji slušalac,
11:17
and that my ego got in the way of our progress as a couple.
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i da je moj ego stao na put našem napredovanju kao para.
11:20
And I've had to really assess these deep-seated, sexist ideas
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I morao sam zaista da se bavim duboko ukorenjenim seksističkim idejama
11:23
that I've had about the value of a woman's experience in the world.
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koje sam imao o značaju ženskog iskustva u svetu.
11:27
I've had to reevaluate what it means to be in allyship with my wife.
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Morao sam iznova da vrednujem šta znači biti u savezu s mojom suprugom.
11:31
KKM: And I had to remind myself of a lot of things, too.
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KKM: I ja sam morala da podsećam sebe na mnogo toga.
11:34
What it means to be hard on the issues,
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Šta znači biti stroga kod ideja,
11:36
but soft on the person.
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ali popustljiva prema osobama.
11:38
While we were writing this, we got into a massive fight.
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Dok smo pisali ovaj govor, silno smo se posvađali.
11:42
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
11:45
For so many different reasons,
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Zbog toliko različitih razloga,
11:47
but based on the content about our values and our lived experiences --
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a sve zbog sadržaja o našim vrednostima i našim proživljenim iskustvima -
11:52
and we were really hurt, you know?
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i zaista smo bili povređeni, znate?
11:53
Because what we do and how we love puts ourselves entirely on the line.
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Jer to što radimo i kako volimo nas u potpunosti izlaže opasnosti.
11:59
But even though the fight lasted over the course of two days --
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No, iako je svađa trajala tokom dva dana -
12:02
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
12:04
We were able to come back together to each other,
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Uspeli smo da se vratimo zajedno jedno drugom,
12:07
and recommit to ourselves, to each other and to our marriage.
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i da se nanovo obavežemo nama, jedno drugom i našem braku.
12:11
And that really yielded some of the most passionate parts
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I to je zaista izrodilo neke od najstrastvenijih delova
12:14
of what we share with you here today.
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onoga što delimo s vama danas.
12:16
TM: I have had to interrogate masculinity,
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TM: Morao sam da preispitam muževnost,
12:18
which I think doesn't happen enough.
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a to se, verujem, ne dešava dovoljno.
12:20
I've had to interrogate masculinity;
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Morao sam da preispitam muževnost;
12:23
the toxic privileges that come with being a man don't define me,
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zarazne privilegije koje dolaze s muškim rodom me ne određuju,
12:26
but I have to be accountable for how it shows up in my life every day.
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već moram da budem odgovoran za njihovo svakodnevno ispoljavanje u mom životu.
12:30
I have allowed my wife to do all of the emotional labor
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Pustio sam da se moja supruga bavi celokupnim emotivnim poslom
12:33
of prying open the lines of communication when I'd rather clam up and run away.
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ispitivanja otvorenih granica komunikacije kad bih se ja radije poklopio i pobegao.
12:38
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
12:39
I've stripped away emotional support instead of facing my own vulnerabilities,
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Uklonio sam emotivnu podršku umesto da se suočim sa sopstvenom ranjivošću,
12:43
particularly around the heartbreaking miscarriage we suffered last year,
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naročito oko srceparajućeg pobačaja koji smo imali prošle godine,
12:47
and I'm sorry for that.
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i žao mi je zbog toga.
12:48
Sometimes as men, we get to take the easy way out.
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Ponekad se kao muškarci izvučemo na lakši način.
12:51
And so my journey as a trans person is about reimagining masculinity.
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Te je moje putovanje transrodne osobe o novom osmišljavanju muževnosti.
12:56
About creating a manhood that isn't measured
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O stvaranju muškosti koja se ne meri
12:59
by the power it wields, by the entitlements afforded to it,
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moći koju poseduje, pravima koja su joj dodeljena
13:02
or any simulacrum of control that it can muster,
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ili bilo kakvim prividom kontrole koju može da prizove,
13:05
but works in tandem with femininity,
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već radi u tandemu sa ženstvenošću
13:07
and is guided by my spirit.
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i vođena je mojim duhom.
13:10
KKM: Y'all ...
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KKM: Ljudi...
13:12
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
13:16
And this has created the space for my femininity to flourish
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A to je stvorilo prostor za moju ženstvenost da procveta
13:19
in a way I had never experienced before.
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na način koji nisam iskusila pre.
13:24
He never is threatened by my sexuality,
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Nikad nije ugrožen mojom seksualnošću,
13:27
he never polices what I wear or how I act.
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nikad ne kontroliše šta oblačim ili kako se ponašam.
13:31
I cook but he does way more of the cleaning than I do.
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Ja kuvam, ali on daleko više posprema od mene.
13:34
And when we're rushing to get out of the house
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A kada žurimo da napustimo kuću
13:37
and we have so much to handle,
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i imamo toliko toga da obavimo,
13:38
he handles everything,
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on sve obavlja,
13:40
so I have time to do my hair and makeup.
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pa ja imam vremena za frizuru i šminku.
13:42
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
13:44
He understands that this is my armor,
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On razume da je ovo moj oklop,
13:46
and he never treats femininity as though it is frivolous or superficial,
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i nikad se ne odnosi prema ženstvenosti kao da je frivolna i površna,
13:51
and this, and him --
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a to i on -
13:53
he grows my experience of gender every single day.
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šire moje iskustvo roda svakog dana.
13:56
TM: I love to watch her get dressed in the morning.
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TM: Volim da je posmatram kako se oblači ujutru.
13:59
Watching her in the closet,
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Da je posmatram u ormaru,
14:01
looking for something comfortable and colorful, and tight,
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kako traži nešto udobno, šarenoliko i usko
14:04
and safe --
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i bezbedno -
14:05
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
14:07
But it's challenging to watch her negotiate her decisions
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Ali je izazov posmatrati je kako dolazi do odluke,
14:09
looking for something that's going to get the least amount of attention,
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tražeći nešto što će privlačiti najmanje pažnje,
14:13
but at the same time be an expression of the vibrant and sexy woman she is.
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ali će istovremeno biti izraz nje kao energične i izazovne žene.
14:17
And all I want to do is celebrate her for her beauty,
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I ja samo želim da je slavim zbog njene lepote
14:19
and the things that make her beautiful and special and free,
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i zbog onoga što je čini lepom i posebnom i slobodnom,
14:22
from her long acrylic nails,
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od njenih dugih noktiju od akrila
14:24
to her uncompromising black feminism.
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do njenog beskompromisnog crnačkog feminzma.
14:26
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
14:31
KKM: I love you. TM: I love you.
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KKM: Volim te. TM: Volim te.
14:32
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
14:34
KKM: There are so many queer and trans people
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KKM: Ima toliko kvir i transrodnih ljudi
14:37
who have come before us,
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koji su postojali pre nas,
14:38
whose stories we will never get to hear.
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čije priče nikada nećemo čuti.
14:41
We constantly experience this retelling of history
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Stalno proživljavamo novo pripovedanje istorije
14:44
where we are conspicuously left out.
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u kojoj smo upadljivo izostavljeni.
14:47
And it's really hard to not see ourselves there.
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A zaista je teško da se ne vidimo tu.
14:50
And so living out loud for us is about that representation.
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Stoga se kod našeg upadljivog postojanja radi o našem predstavljanju.
14:54
It's about having possibility models,
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Radi se o postojanju uzora mogućnosti
14:57
and having hope that love is part of our inheritance in this world, too.
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i posedovanju nade da je ljubav deo i našeg nasleđa u ovom svetu.
15:01
TM: The possibility that we are practicing
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TM: Mogućnost koju praktikujemo
15:03
is about reinventing time, love and institutions.
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je o novom osmišljavanju vremena, ljubavi i institucija.
15:07
We are creating a future of multiplicity.
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Stvaramo budućnost raznovrsnosti.
15:09
We are expanding the spectrum of gender and sexuality,
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Širimo spektar roda i seksualnosti,
15:12
imagining ourselves into existence,
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osmišljavamo sopstveno postojanje,
15:15
imagining a world where gender is self-determined and not imposed,
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osmišljavamo svet u kome je rod samoodređen, a ne nametnut
15:18
and where who we are is a kaleidoscope of possibility
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i u kome je to ko smo kaleidoskop mogućnosti
15:21
without the narrow-minded limitations masquerading as science or justice.
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bez uskogrudih ograničenja koja se uzimaju kao nauka ili pravda.
15:27
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
15:31
KKM: And I can't lie:
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KKM: I ne mogu da lažem:
15:33
it is really, really hard.
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zasta, zaista je teško.
15:35
It is hard to stand in the face of bigotry
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Teško je stajati suočena s netrpeljivošću,
15:38
with an open heart and a smile on my face.
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otovorenog srca i sa osmehom na licu.
15:40
It is really hard to face the injustice that exists in the world,
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Zaista je teško suočiti se s nepravdom koja postoji u svetu,
15:44
while still believing in the ability of people to really change.
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i dalje verujući u mogućnost istinskih promena kod ljudi.
15:48
That takes an enormous amount of faith and dedication.
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To iziskuje ogromnu količinu vere i posvećenosti.
15:52
And beyond that,
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A i mimo toga,
15:53
marriage is hard work.
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brak je težak posao.
15:55
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
15:56
Piles of dirty socks on the floor,
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Gomile prljavih čarapa na podu,
15:59
more boring sports shows than I ever thought possible --
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više dosadnih sportskih emisija nego što sam mislila da je moguće -
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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And fights that bring me to tears
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I svađe koje me dovode do suza,
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when it feels like we're not speaking the same language.
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kad se čini da ne govorimo istim jezkom.
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But there is not a day that goes by
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Ali ne prođe ni dan
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where I am not so grateful to be married to this man;
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da nisam zahvalna što sam udata za ovog čoveka;
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where I'm not so grateful for the possibility of changing minds,
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gde sam veoma zahvalna zbog mogućnosti menjanja umova,
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and rewarding conversations,
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i plodotovornih razgovora
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and creating a world where love belongs to us all.
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i stvaranja sveta u kom ljubav pripada svima nama.
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I think about our acronym:
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Razmišljam o akronimu:
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LGBTQ2SIA.
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LGBTK2SIA.
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A seemingly endless evolution of self and a community,
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Naoko beskrajna evolucija sebe i zajednice,
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but also this really deep desire not to leave anyone behind.
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ali takođe istinski jaka želja da niko ne bude izostavljen.
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We've learned how to love each other,
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Naučili smo kako da volimo jedni druge,
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and we've committed to loving each other throughout changes to gender
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i obavezali smo se da volimo jedni druge kroz izmene roda
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and changes in spirit.
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i izmene duha.
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And we learned this love in our chat rooms,
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I naučili smo ovu ljubav u našim prostorima za ćaskanje,
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in our clubs, in our bars and in our community centers.
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u našim klubovima, u našim barovima i u našim društvenim centrima.
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We've learned how to love each other for the long haul.
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Naučili smo kako da volimo jedni druge na duge staze.
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TM & KKM: Thank you.
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TM i KKM: Hvala vam.
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(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
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