The fascinating physics of everyday life | Helen Czerski

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Prevodilac: Aleksandra Ninovic Lektor: Ivana Korom
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As you heard, I'm a physicist.
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Kao što ste čuli, ja sam fizičar.
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And I think the way we talk about physics needs a little modification.
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I ja mislim da način na koji pričamo o fizici treba malo modifikovati.
00:19
I am from just down the road here; I don't live here anymore.
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Rođena sam u ovoj ulici; ne živim više ovde.
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But coming from round here means that I have a northern nana,
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Ali poteći odavde znači da imam nanu sa severa,
00:27
my mum's mom.
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mamu moje mame.
00:28
And Nana is very bright; she hasn't had much formal education,
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Nana je vrlo bistra; nema puno formalnog obrazovanja,
00:32
but she's sharp.
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ali je oštroumna.
00:33
And when I was a second-year undergraduate studying physics at Cambridge,
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I kada sam bila na drugoj godini studija fizike na Kembridžu,
00:37
I remember spending an afternoon at Nana's house in Urmston
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sećam se jednog popodneva u naninoj kući u Urmstonu
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studying quantum mechanics.
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kako učim kvantnu mehaniku.
00:44
And I had these folders open in front of me
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I imala sam sve te fascikle otvorene ispred sebe
00:46
with this, you know, hieroglyphics -- let's be honest.
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sa ovim, znate, hijeroglifima - da budemo iskreni.
00:49
And Nana came along, and she looked at this folder,
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I nana nailazi, gleda tu fasciklu,
00:54
and she said, "What's that?"
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i kaže: „Šta je to"?
00:56
I said, "It's quantum mechanics, Nana."
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Ja kažem: „Kvantna mehanika, nano".
00:59
And I tried to explain something about what was on the page.
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I pokušala sam da objasnim nešto na toj stranici.
01:03
It was to do with the nucleus and Einstein A and B coefficients.
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Imalo je veze sa jezgrom i Ajnštajnovim koeficijentima A i B.
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And Nana looked very impressed.
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I nana je zadivljeno gledala.
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And then she said, "Oh.
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A zatim je rekla: „Oh.
01:12
What can you do when you know that?"
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Šta možeš uraditi kada to znaš"?
01:14
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
01:19
"Don't know, ma'am."
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„Ne znam, nano".
01:20
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
01:21
I think I said something about computers,
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Mislim da sam rekla nešto o kompjuterima,
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because it was all I could think of at the time.
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jer je to bilo jedino čega sam mogla da se setim u tom trenutku.
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But you can broaden that question out, because it's a very good question --
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Ali to pitanje možete proširiti, jer je vrlo dobro pitanje -
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"What can you do when you know that?" when "that" is physics?
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„Šta možete uraditi kada to znate"? kada je „to" fizika?
01:33
And I've come to realize that when we talk about physics in society
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I onda sam shvatila da kada pričamo o fizici u društvu
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and our sort of image of it,
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i našoj slici o njoj,
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we don't include the things that we can do when we know that.
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ne uključujemo stvari koje možemo uraditi kada to znamo.
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Our perception of what physics is needs a bit of a shift.
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Našu percepciju fizike treba malo pomeriti.
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Not only does it need a bit of a shift,
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Ne samo da ju je potrebno malo pomeriti,
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but sharing this different perspective matters for our society,
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već deljenje te različite perspektive znači našem društvu,
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and I'm not just saying that because I'm a physicist and I'm biased
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a ovo ne govorim samo zato što sam fizičar i pristrasna sam
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and I think we're the most important people in the world.
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i mislim da smo mi najvažniji ljudi na svetu.
01:57
Honest.
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Iskreno.
01:58
So, the image of physics -- we've got an image problem, let's be honest --
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Tako da se slika o fizici - imamo problem sa slikom, budimo iskreni -
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it hasn't moved on much from this.
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nije mnogo odmakla od ovoga.
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This is a very famous photograph that's from the Solvay Conference in 1927.
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Ovo je vrlo poznata fotografija, sa konferencije Solvej 1927. godine.
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This is when the great minds of physics were grappling
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Tada su se veliki umovi fizike rvali
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with the nature of determinism
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sa prirodom determinizma
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and what it means only to have a probability
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i šta znači imati samo verovatnoću
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that a particle might be somewhere,
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da čestica može biti negde,
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and whether any of it was real.
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i da li je išta od toga postojalo.
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And it was all very difficult.
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I sve to je bilo vrlo teško.
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And you'll notice they're all very stern-looking men in suits.
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Svi ćete primetiti da su svi oni ljudi u odelima, krutog izgleda
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Marie Curie -- I keep maybe saying, "Marie Antoinette,"
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Marija Kiri - ja možda stalno govorim, "Marija Antonaneta",
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which would be a turn-up for the books --
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što bi bio srećan slučaj za knjige -
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Marie Curie, third from the left on the bottom there,
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Marija Kiri, treća s leva, tamo pri dnu,
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she was allowed in, but had to dress like everybody else.
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bila joj dozvoljeno da uđe, ali je morala da se oblači kao svi ostali.
02:35
(Laughter)
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02:36
So, this is what physics is like -- there's all these kinds of hieroglyphics,
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(Smeh)
Tako da to je fizika - postoje svi ti hijeroglifi,
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these are to do with waves and particles.
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oni imaju veze za talasima i česticama.
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That is an artist's impression of two black holes colliding,
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To je umetnički utisak o dve crne rupe koje se sudaraju,
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which makes it look worth watching, to be honest.
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što ih čini vrednim gledanja, da budem iskrena.
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I'm glad I didn't have to write the risk assessment
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Drago mi je da nisam morala da pišem procenu rizika
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for whatever was going on there.
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za šta god se tamo dešavalo.
02:51
The point is: this is the image of physics, right?
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Poenta je: ovo je slika o fizici, zar ne?
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It's weird and difficult,
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Čudna je i teška,
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done by slightly strange people dressed in a slightly strange way.
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napravili su je pomalo čudni ljudi, pomalo čudno obučeni.
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It's inaccessible, it's somewhere else
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Nedostupna je, postoji tamo negde
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and fundamentally, why should I care?
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i u suštini, zašto bi me bilo briga?
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And the problem with that is that I'm a physicist,
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Problem s tim je što sam ja fizičar,
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and I study this.
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i izučavam ovo.
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This -- this is my job, right?
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Ovo - to je moj posao, zar ne?
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I study the interface between the atmosphere and the ocean.
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Izučavam pristup između atmosfere i okeana.
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The atmosphere is massive, the ocean is massive,
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Atmosfera je masivna, okean je masivan,
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and the thin layer that joins them together
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a tanak sloj koji ih spaja
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is really important,
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je vrlo važan,
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because that's where things go from one huge reservoir to the other.
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jer tu stvari prelaze iz jednog ogromnog rezervoara u drugi.
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You can see that the sea surface -- that was me who took this video --
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Možete videti da površina mora - ja sam ta koja je snimila ovaj video -
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the average height of those waves by the way, was 10 meters.
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prosečna visina tih talasa je bila 10 metara.
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So this is definitely physics happening here --
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Prema tome definitivno se fizika dešava ovde -
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there's lots of things -- this is definitely physics.
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ima puno stvari - ovo je definitivno fizika.
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And yet it's not included in our cultural perception of physics,
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A opet nije uključeno u našu kulturološku percepciju fizike,
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and that bothers me.
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i to mi smeta.
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So what is included in our cultural perception of physics?
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Da vidimo šta je uključeno u našu kulturološku percepciju fizike?
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Because I'm a physicist, there has to be a graph, right?
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Pošto sam fizičar, mora da postoji grafikon, zar ne?
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That's allowed.
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To je dozvoljeno.
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We've got time along the bottom here, from very fast things there,
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Imamo vreme ovde na dnu, od vrlo brzih stvari tamo,
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to things that take a long time over here.
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do stvari kojima treba puno vremena, ovde.
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Small things at the bottom, big things up there.
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Male stvari na dnu, velike stvari gore.
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So, our current cultural image of physics looks like this.
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Prema tome, naša trenutna kulturološka slika o fizici izgleda ovako.
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There's quantum mechanics down in that corner,
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U ovom uglu dole je kvantna mehanika,
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it's very small, it's very weird,
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vrlo je mala, vrlo čudna,
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it happens very quickly,
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odvija se vrlo brzo,
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and it's a long way down in the general ...
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i generalno ona je daleko dole...
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on the scale of anything that matters for everyday life.
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na skali bilo čega što znači za svakodnevni život.
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And then there's cosmology, which is up there;
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A zatim postoji kosmologija, koja je ovde gore;
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very large, very far away,
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vrlo velika, vrlo daleko,
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also very weird.
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takođe vrlo čudna.
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And if you go to some places
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I ako idete do nekih mesta
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like black holes in the beginning of the universe,
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kao što su crne rupe na početku univerzuma,
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we know that these are frontiers in physics, right?
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znamo da su to granice u fizici, zar ne?
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There's lots of work being done to discover new physics
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Puno se radi na otkrivanju nove fizike
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in these places.
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na ovim mestima.
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But the thing is, you will notice there's a very large gap in the middle.
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Zapravo, primetićete da postoji ogroman jaz u sredini.
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And in that gap, there are many things.
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I u tom jazu postoji puno stvari.
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There are planets and toasts and volcanoes and clouds
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Tu su planete i tostovi i vulkani i oblaci
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and clarinets and bubbles and dolphins
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i klarineti i mehurići i delfini
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and all sorts of things that make up our everyday life.
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i gomila stvari koje čine naš svakodnevni život.
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And these are also run by physics, you'd be surprised --
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I njima takođe upravlja fizika, iznenadili biste se -
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there is physics in the middle, it's just that nobody talks about it.
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fizika je u sredini, samo što o njoj niko ne govori.
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And the thing about all of these is that they all run
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Stvar je u tome da svi oni rade
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on a relatively small number of physical laws,
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na osnovu relativno malog broja zakona fizike,
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things like Newton's laws of motion,
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poput Njutnovog zakona kretanja,
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thermodynamics,
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termodinamike,
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some rotational dynamics.
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nekih rotacionih dinamika.
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The physics in the middle applies over a huge range,
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Fizika u sredini se odnosi na ogroman niz,
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from very, very small things to very, very big things.
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od vrlo, vrlo malih stvari do vrlo, vrlo velikih.
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You have to try very hard to get outside of this.
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Morate se dosta potruditi da izađete izvan ovoga.
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And there is also a frontier in research physics here,
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Tu postoji i granica u istraživačkoj fizici,
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it's just that nobody talks about it.
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samo što o tome niko ne govori.
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This is the world of the complex.
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Ovo je svet složenosti.
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When these laws work together, they bring about
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Kada ovi zakoni rade zajedno, oni stvaraju
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the beautiful, messy, complex world we live in.
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prelepi, neuredni, složeni svet u kome živimo.
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Fundamentally, this is the bit that really matters to me
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U suštini, ovo je delić koji meni zaista znači
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on an everyday basis.
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na svakodnevnoj osnovi.
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And this is the bit that we don't talk about.
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A to je delić o kome ne govorimo.
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There's plenty of physics research going on here.
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Sprovode se mnoga istraživanja u fizici.
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But because it doesn't involve pointing at stars,
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Ali zato što ne uključuje pokazivanje zvezda,
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people for some reason think it's not that.
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ljudi iz nekog razloga misle da to nije to.
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Now, the cool thing about this is that there are so many things
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E sada, super stvar u vezi sa ovim je da postoji mnogo stvari
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in this middle bit,
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u ovom malom srednjem delu,
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all following the same physical laws,
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koje sve prate iste fizičke zakone,
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that we can see those laws at work
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tako da možemo videti te zakone na delu
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almost all the time around us.
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oko sebe u skoro svakom trenutku.
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I've got a little video here.
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Ovde imam jedan mali video.
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So the game is, one of these eggs is raw and one of them has been boiled.
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Igra je sledeća, jedno ovih jaja je živo, a jedno bareno.
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I want you to tell me which one is which.
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Želim da mi kažete koje je koje.
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Which one's raw?
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Koje je živo?
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(Audience responds)
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(Publika odgovara)
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The one on the left -- yes!
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Ono sa leve strane - da!
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And even though you might not have tried that, you all knew.
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I čak iako to možda niste probali, svi ste znali.
06:09
The reason for that is, you set them spinning,
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Razlog tome je, zavrtite ih
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and when you stop the cooked egg, the one that's completely solid,
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i kada zaustavite kuvano jaje, ono koje je potpuno čvrsto,
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you stop the entire egg.
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vi zaustavite celo jaje.
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When you stop the other one, you only stop the shell;
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Kada zaustavite ono drugo, vi zaustavite samo ljusku;
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the liquid inside is still rotating because nothing's made it stop.
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tečnost unutra se i dalje okreće jer je ništa nije zaustavilo.
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And then it pushes the shell round again, so the egg starts to rotate again.
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Ona zatim pokreće ljusku ponovo, tako da jaje počinje ponovo da se vrti.
06:27
This is brilliant, right?
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Ovo je fenomenalno, zar ne?
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It's a demonstration of something in physics
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Ovo je demonstracija nečega što u fizici
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that we call the law of conservation of angular momentum,
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zovemo zakonom očuvanja ugaonog momenta,
06:34
which basically says that if you set something spinning
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koji u osnovi kaže da ako nešto zavrtiš
06:37
about a fixed axis,
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oko fiksirane ose,
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that it will keep spinning unless you do something to stop it.
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nastaviće da se vrti ukoliko ne uradiš nešto da ga zaustaviš.
06:41
And that's really fundamental in how the universe works.
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A to je zaista osnova načina na koji univerzum funkcioniše.
06:45
And it's not just eggs that it applies to,
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I to se ne primenjuje samo na jaja,
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although it's really useful if you're the sort of person --
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iako je zaista korisno ako ste tip osobe -
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and apparently, these people do exist --
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a takvi ljudi očigledno postoje -
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who will boil eggs and then put them back in the fridge.
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koji će obariti jaja, a zatim ih vratiti u frižider.
06:55
Who does that? Don't admit to it -- it's OK. We won't judge you.
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Ko to radi? Ne morate reći - u redu je. Nećemo vas osuđivati.
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But it's also got much broader applicabilities.
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Već ima i mnogo širu primenu.
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This is the Hubble Space Telescope.
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Ovo je svemirski teleskop Habl.
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The Hubble Ultra Deep Field, which is a very tiny part of the sky.
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Ultra duboko polje Habla, što je vrlo mali deo neba.
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Hubble has been floating in free space for 25 years,
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Habl pluta u slobodnom prostoru 25 godina,
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not touching anything.
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ne dodirujući ništa.
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And yet it can point to a tiny region of sky.
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A opet može ukazati na mali region neba.
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For 11 and a half days, it did it in sections,
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11 ipo dana je to radio u delovima,
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accurately enough to take amazing images like this.
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dovoljno precizno da zabeleži predivne slike poput ovih.
07:21
So the question is:
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Pitanje je onda:
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How does something that is not touching anything
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kako nešto što ne dodiruje ništa
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know where it is?
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zna gde se nalazi?
07:26
The answer is that right in the middle of it, it has something
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Odgovor je da u sredini ima nešto,
07:29
that, to my great disappointment, isn't a raw egg,
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što, na moje veliko razočarenje, nije živo jaje,
07:31
but basically does the same job.
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ali u osnovi radi isti posao.
07:32
It's got gyroscopes which are spinning,
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On ima žiroskope koji se okreću,
07:34
and because of the law of conservation of angular momentum,
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i zbog zakona održanja ugaonog momenta,
07:37
they keep spinning with the same axis, indefinitely.
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oni nastavljaju da se okreću sa istom osom, beskonačno.
07:40
Hubble kind of rotates around them, and so it can orient itself.
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Habl se zapravo okreće oko njih, pa se tako orijentiše.
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So the same little physical law we can play with in the kitchen and use,
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Tako da isti mali zakon fizike sa kojim se možemo igrati u kuhinji i koristiti ga,
07:47
also explains what makes possible some of the most advanced technology
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takođe objašnjava šta čini mogućom najnapredniju tehnologiju
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of our time.
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našeg vremena.
07:53
So this is the fun bit of physics, that you learn these patterns
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Ovo je zabavni deo fizike, gde učite ove šablone,
07:57
and then you can apply them again and again and again.
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a onda ih možete primenjivati iznova i iznova.
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And it's really rewarding when you spot them in new places.
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I zaista je nagrađujuće kada ih primetite na novim mestima.
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This is the fun of physics.
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Ovo je zabavni deo fizike.
08:04
I have shown that egg video to an audience full of businesspeople once
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Jednom sam pokazala onaj video sa jajima publici punoj poslovnih ljudi
08:09
and they were all dressed up very smartly and trying to impress their bosses.
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koji su bili vrlo poslovno obučeni i pokušavali da zadive svoje šefove.
08:13
And I was running out of time, so I showed the egg video and then said,
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Ponestajalo mi je vremena, tako da sam pustila video sa jajima i rekla,
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"Well, you can work it out, and ask me afterwards to check."
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„Pa, možete razmisliti, i pitati me posle da proverim".
08:20
Then I left the stage.
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Zatim sam otišla sa pozornice.
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And I had, literally,
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middle-aged grown men tugging on my sleeve afterwards,
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I imala sam, bukvalno,
sredovečne odrasle muškarce koji me vuku za rukav,
08:25
saying, "Is it this? Is it this?"
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govoreći: „Je l' to ovo?"
08:27
And when I said, "Yes." They went, "Yes!"
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I kada bih rekla „Da", oni bi rekli „To!"
08:29
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
08:30
The joy that you get from spotting these patterns
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Užitak prepoznavanja ovih šablona
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doesn't go away when you're an adult.
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ne nestaje kada odrastete.
08:34
And that's really important,
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I to je vrlo važno,
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because physics is all about patterns,
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jer je fizika puna šablona,
08:39
and a small number of patterns give you access
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i mali broj njih vam daje pristup
08:41
to almost all of the physics in our everyday world.
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skoro svoj fizici u našem svakodnevnom svetu.
08:45
The thing that's best about this is it involves playing with toys.
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Najbolja stvar u vezi sa ovim je to što uključuje igru igračkama.
08:48
Things like the egg shouldn't be dismissed as the mundane little things
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Stvari poput jajeta ne bi trebalo odbaciti kao svakodnevne male stvari
08:52
that we just give the kids to play with on a Saturday afternoon
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koje dajemo deci da se igraju subotom popodne
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to keep them quiet.
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kako bi ih ućutkali.
08:56
This is the stuff that actually really matters,
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Ovo su stvari koje zapravo zaista znače,
08:58
because this is the laws of the universe and it applies to eggs
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jer je ovo zakon univerzuma i primenjuje se na jaja
09:01
and toast falling butter-side down and all sorts of other things,
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i hleb koji pada na stranu sa puterom i gomilu drugih stvari,
09:05
just as much as it applies to modern technology
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isto onoliko koliko se odnosi na modernu tehnologiju
09:07
and anything else that's going on in the world.
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i sve drugo što se dešava u svetu.
09:09
So I think we should play with these patterns.
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Prema tome ja mislim da bi trebalo da se igramo sa tim šablonima.
09:13
Basically, there are a small number of concepts
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U osnovi postoji mali broj koncepаta
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that you can become familiar with using things in your kitchen,
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sa kojima se možete upoznati korišćenjem predmeta u kuhinji,
09:18
that are really useful for life in the outside world.
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a koji su vrlo korisni za život u spoljašnjem svetu.
09:21
If you want to learn about thermodynamics, a duck is a good place to start,
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Ako želite da učite o termodinamici, patka je dobro početno mesto,
09:25
for example, why their feet don't get cold.
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na primer, zašto se njihova stopala nikada ne hlade.
09:27
Once you've got a bit of thermodynamics with the duck,
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Kada shvatite deo termodinamike sa patkom,
09:29
you can also explain fridges.
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možete objasniti i frižidere.
09:31
Magnets that you can play with in your kitchen
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Magneti sa kojima se možete igrati u svojoj kuhinji
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get you to wind turbines and modern energy generation.
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vam objašnjavaju turbine i modernu proizvodnju energije.
09:38
Raisins in [fizzy] lemonade, which is always a good thing to play with.
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Grožđice u gaziranoj limunadi, što je uvek dobra stvar za igru.
09:41
If you're at a boring party, fish some raisins out of the bar snacks,
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Ako ste na dosadnoj žurci, izvucite nekoliko grožđica iz činije,
09:44
put them in some lemonade.
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stavite ih u malo limunade.
09:46
It's got three consequences.
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To ima tri posledice.
09:48
First thing is, it's quite good to watch; try it.
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Prvo, vrlo je dobro za gledanje; probajte.
09:50
Secondly, it sends the boring people away.
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Drugo, oteraće dosadne ljude.
09:53
Thirdly, it brings the interesting people to you.
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Treće, dovešće vam interesantne ljude.
09:55
You win on all fronts.
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Pobeđujete na svim frontovima.
09:56
And then there's spin and gas laws and viscosity.
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Zatim su tu zakoni rotacije i gasa i viskoznost.
10:00
There's these little patterns, and they're right around us everywhere.
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Tu su ti mali šabloni, i svuda su oko nas.
10:03
And it's fundamentally democratic, right?
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I to je bazično demokratski, zar ne?
10:07
Everybody has access to the same physics; you don't need a big, posh lab.
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Svi imaju pristup istoj fizici; nije potrebna velika, otmena laboratorija.
10:11
When I wrote the book, I had the chapter on spin.
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Kada sam pisala knjigu, imala sam poglavlje o rotaciji.
10:15
I had written a bit about toast falling butter-side down.
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Pisala sam malo i o hlebu koji se prevrne na stranu sa puterom.
10:17
I gave the chapter to a friend of mine who's not a scientist,
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Dala sam poglavlje jednom prijatelju koji nije naučnik,
10:20
for him to read and tell me what he thought,
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da pročita i kaže mi šta misli,
10:22
and he took the chapter away.
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i on je odneo poglavlje.
10:26
He was working overseas.
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Radio je u inostranstvu.
10:27
I got this text message back from him a couple of weeks later,
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Posle nekoliko nedelja sam od njega dobila poruku,
10:30
and it said, "I'm at breakfast in a posh hotel in Switzerland,
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koja kaže: „Doručkujem u otmenom hotelu u Švajcarskoj,
10:34
and I really want to push toast off the table,
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i zaista želim da gurnem hleb sa stola,
10:37
because I don't believe what you wrote."
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jer ne verujem šta si napisala".
10:39
And that was the good bit -- he doesn't have to.
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I to je dobra stvar - ne mora.
10:42
He can push the toast off the table and try it for himself.
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Može da gurne hleb sa stola i proba sam.
10:45
And so there's two important things to know about science:
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Postoje dve važne stvari koje treba znati o nauci:
10:49
the fundamental laws we've learned through experience and experimentation,
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osnovni zakoni koje smo naučili kroz iskustvo i eksperimentisanje,
10:53
work.
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rade.
10:55
The day we drop an apple and it goes up,
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Onog dana kada ispustimo jabuku i ona ode gore
10:57
then we'll have a debate about gravity.
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tada ćemo imati debatu o gravitaciji.
10:59
Up to that point, we basically know how gravity works,
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Do tada, znamo kako gravitacija radi,
11:01
and we can learn the framework.
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i naučili smo okvire.
11:03
Then there's the process of experimentation:
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Zatim je tu proces eksperimentisanja:
11:05
having confidence in things, trying things out,
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imanje poverenja u stvari, isprobavanje novih,
11:07
critical thinking -- how we move science forward --
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kritičko razmišljanje - kako pomeramo nauku napred,
11:10
and you can learn both of those things
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a obe stvari možete naučiti
11:12
by playing with toys in the everyday world.
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igranjem igračkama u svakodnevnom svetu.
11:15
And it's really important,
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I vrlo je važno,
11:17
because there's all this talk about technology,
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jer je tu sva ta priča o tehnologiji,
11:19
we've heard talks about quantum computing
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čuli smo priče o kvantnom računanju
11:21
and all these mysterious, far-off things.
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i svim tim misterioznim, dalekim stvarima.
11:23
But fundamentally, we still live in bodies that are about this size,
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Ali u osnovi i dalje živimo u telima koja su otprilike ove velilčine,
11:27
we still walk about, sit on chairs that are about this size,
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i dalje hodamo unaokolo, sedimo na stolicama ove veličine,
11:30
we still live in the physical world.
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i dalje živimo u fizičkom svetu.
11:32
And being familiar with these concepts means we're not helpless.
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A biti upoznat sa svim tim konceptima znači da nismo bespomoćni.
11:36
And I think it's really important that we're not helpless,
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Ja mislim da je vrlo važno da nismo bespomoćni,
11:39
that society feels it can look at things,
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da društvo misli da može gledati u stvari,
11:41
because this isn't about knowing all the answers.
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jer to ne znači znati sve odgovore.
11:44
It's about having the framework so you can ask the right questions.
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Znači da imamo okvir kako bismo postavljali prava pitanja.
11:47
And by playing with these fundamental little things in everyday life,
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A igranjem sa ovim malim bazičnim stvarima iz svakodnevnog života,
11:51
we gain the confidence to ask the right questions.
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stičemo samopouzdanje da postavimo prava pitanja.
11:54
So, there's a bigger thing.
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Prema tome, eto veće stvari.
11:55
In answer to Nana's question
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Odgovor na nanino pitanje
11:57
about what can you do when you know that --
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o tome šta možemo raditi kada to znamo -
11:59
because there's lots of stuff in the everyday world
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jer postoji mnogo stvari u svakodnevnom svetu
12:01
that you can do when you know that,
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koje možete raditi kada to znate,
12:03
especially if you've got eggs in the fridge --
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naročito ako imate jaja u fružideru -
12:06
there's a much deeper answer.
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je da postoji mnogo dublji odgovor.
12:08
And so there's all the fun and the curiosity
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Puno zabave i znatiželje
12:10
that you could have playing with toys.
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ima u igri sa igračkama.
12:12
By the way -- why should kids have all the fun, right?
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Uzgred - zašto bi se samo deca zabavljala, zar ne?
12:16
All of us can have fun playing with toys,
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Svi se možemo zabavljati igračkama,
12:18
and we shouldn't be embarrassed about it.
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i ne bi trebalo da se stidimo zbog toga.
12:20
You can blame me, it's fine.
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Možete okriviti mene, u redu je.
12:22
So when it comes to reasons for studying physics, for example,
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Kada govorimo o razlozima za učenje fizike, na primer,
12:27
here is the best reason I can think of:
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evo najboljeg kog se mogu setiti:
12:30
I think that each of us has three life-support systems.
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mislim da svako od nas ima tri sistema za podršku životu.
12:34
We've got our own body, we've got a planet
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Imamo svoje telo, imamo planetu
12:36
and we've got our civilization.
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i imamo svoju civilizaciju.
12:38
Each of those is an independent life-support system,
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Svaki od njih je nezavisni sistem podrške životu,
12:41
keeping us alive in its own way.
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koji nas održava živim na svoj način.
12:43
And they all run on the fundamental physical laws
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A svi oni rade na osnovu fundamentalnih zakona fizike
12:46
that you can learn in the kitchen with eggs and teacups and lemonade,
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koje možete naučiti u kuhinji sa jajima i šoljama za čaj i limunadom,
12:50
and everything else you can play with.
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i svim ostalim sa čim se možete igrati.
12:52
This is the reason, for example,
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Ovo je razlog, na primer,
12:53
why something like climate change is such a serious problem,
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zašto je nešto poput klimatske promene tako veliki problem,
12:56
because It's two of these life-support systems,
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zato što se njegova dva sistema podrške životu,
12:59
our planet and our civilization,
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naša planeta i naša civilizacija,
13:00
kind of butting up against each other;
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sudaraju jedan s drugim;
13:02
they're in conflict, and we need to negotiate that boundary.
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u konfliktu su, a mi moramo da pregovaramo o granici.
13:05
And the fundamental physical laws that we can learn
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Osnovni zakoni fizike koje možemo naučiti
13:08
that are the way the world around us works,
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i koji pokreću svet oko nas,
13:10
are the tools at the basis of everything;
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jesu alati u osnovi svega;
13:13
they're the foundation.
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oni su temelj.
13:14
There's lots of things to know about in life,
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Ima mnogo stvari u životu o kojima treba znati,
13:16
but knowing the foundations is going to get you a long way.
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ali poznavanje temelja će vas odvesti daleko.
13:19
And I think this, if you're not interested in having fun with physics
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I ja mislim da ako niste zainteresovani za zabavljanje fizikom
13:23
or anything like that -- strange, but apparently, these people exist --
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ili bilo šta slično - čudno, ali očigledno takvi ljudi postoje -
13:27
you surely are interested in keeping yourself alive
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zasigurno jeste zainteresovani za održavanje sebe u životu
13:31
and in how our life-support systems work.
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i to kako naš sistem podrške životu radi.
13:33
The framework for physics is remarkably constant;
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Okvir fizike je upečatljivo konstantan;
13:38
it's the same in lots and lots of things that we measure.
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isti je u mnogo stvari koje merimo.
13:40
It's not going to change anytime soon.
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I neće se promeniti uskoro.
13:42
They might discover some new quantum mechanics,
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Možda će otkriti neku novu kvantnu mehaniku,
13:44
but apples right here are still going to fall down.
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ali ove jabuke će i dalje padati dole.
13:47
So, the question is --
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Prema tome, pitanje je -
13:49
I get asked sometimes: How do you start?
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Ponekad me pitaju: kako počinješ?
13:52
What's the place to start
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Odakle se počinje
13:53
if you're interested in the physical world, in not being helpless,
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ako te interesuje fizički svet, kako ne biti bespomoćan,
13:56
and in finding some toys to play with?
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i traženje igračaka za igru?
13:58
Here is my suggestion to you:
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Evo mog predloga za vas:
14:00
the place to start is that moment -- and adults do this --
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mesto gde se počinje je onaj momenat - a odrasli ovo rade -
14:06
you're drifting along somewhere,
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kada negde lutate,
14:08
and you spot something and your brain goes, "Oh, that's weird."
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i ugledate nešto a vaš mozak kaže: „O, čudno".
14:11
And then your consciousness goes, "You're an adult. Keep going."
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A zatim vaša svest kaže: „Odrasla si osoba. Nastavi dalje".
14:15
And that's the point -- hold that thought --
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I to je trenutak - zadržite tu misao -
14:18
that bit where your brain went, "Oh, that's a bit odd,"
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delić gde je vaš mozak rekao: „To je pomalo čudno",
14:21
because there's something there to play with,
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jer tu postoji nešto sa čim se igra,
14:23
and it's worth you playing with it,
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i vredno je vaše igre sa njim,
14:24
so that's the place to start.
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prema tome tu se počinje.
14:26
But if you don't have any of those little moments
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Ali ako nemate nijedan od tih malih momenata
14:28
on your way home from this event,
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na svom putu kući sa ovog događaja,
14:30
here are some things to start with.
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evo nekih stvari za početak.
14:31
Put raisins in [fizzy] lemonade; highly entertaining.
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Stavite grožđice u gaziranu limunadu; izuzetno zabavno.
14:34
Watch a coffee spill dry.
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Gledajte kako se suši prosuta kafa.
14:36
I know that sounds a little bit like watching paint dry,
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Znam da to izgleda pomalo kao gledati boju kako se suši
14:38
but it does do quite weird things; it's worth watching.
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ali ipak radi neke čudne stvari; vredi gledati.
14:42
I'm an acquired taste at dinner parties if there are teacups around.
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Ljudi počinju da me vole na večerama ako u blizini ima šolja za čaj.
14:46
There are so many things you can do to play with teacups, it's brilliant.
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Ima toliko stvari koje možete raditi sa šoljama za čaj, neverovatno je.
14:49
The most obvious one is to get a teacup, get a spoon,
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Najočiglednija je da uzmete šolju, kašiku,
14:53
tap the teacup around the rim and listen,
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udarajte šolju po obodu i slušajte,
14:55
and you will hear something strange.
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i čućete nešto čudno.
14:57
And the other thing is, push your toast off the table
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A druga stvar je, gurnite hleb sa stola
15:00
because you can, and you'll learn stuff from it.
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jer možete, i naučićete nešto iz toga.
15:03
And if you're feeling really ambitious,
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A ako ste zaista ambiciozni,
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try and push it off in such a way that it doesn't fall butter-side down,
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pokušajte da ga gurnete tako da ne padne na stranu sa puterom,
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which is possible.
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što je moguće.
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The point of all of this is that,
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Poenta svega ovoga je da bi,
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first of all, we should all play with toys.
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pre svega, svi trebalo da se igramo.
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We shouldn't be afraid to investigate the physical world for ourselves
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Ne bi trebalo da se plašimo ispitivanja fizičkog sveta za sebe
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with the tools around us,
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alatkama oko sebe,
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because we all have access to them.
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jer su nam svima dostupne.
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It matters, because if we want to understand society,
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Važno je, jer ako želimo da razumemo društvo,
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if we want to be good citizens,
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ako želimo da budemo dobri građani,
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we need to understand the framework on which everything else must be based.
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moramo razumeti okvir na kome se bazira sve ostalo.
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Playing with toys is great.
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Igračke su super.
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Understanding how to keep our life-support systems going is great.
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Razumevanje kako održati naš sistem podrške životu je super.
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But fundamentally, the thing that we need to change
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Ali fundamentalno, ono što moramo promeniti
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in the way that we talk about physics,
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u načinu na koji pričamo o fizici,
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is we need to understand
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je da moramo razumeti
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that physics isn't out there with weird people
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da fizika nije tamo negde sa čudnim ljudima
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and strange hieroglyphics
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i čudnim hijeroglifima
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for somebody else in a posh lab.
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za nekog drugog u otmenoj laboratoriji.
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Physics is right here; it's for us, and we can all play with it.
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Fizika je baš ovde; ona je za nas, i svi se možemo igrati njom.
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Thank you very much.
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Hvala puno.
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(Applause)
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