Lawrence Lessig: Re-examining the remix

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ืื ื ืœื—ืฅ ืคืขืžื™ื™ื ืขืœ ื”ื›ืชื•ื‘ื™ื•ืช ื‘ืื ื’ืœื™ืช ืœืžื˜ื” ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ืคืขื™ืœ ืืช ื”ืกืจื˜ื•ืŸ.

ืžืชืจื’ื: Ido Dekkers ืžื‘ืงืจ: Sigal Tifferet
00:16
I want to talk about
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ืื ื™ ืจื•ืฆื” ืœื“ื‘ืจ ืขืœ
00:18
what we learn from conservatives.
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ืžื” ืื ื• ืœืžื“ื™ื ืžืฉืžืจื ื™ื.
00:21
And I'm at a stage in life where I'm yearning for my old days,
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ื•ืื ื™ ื ืžืฆื ื‘ืฉืœื‘ ื‘ื—ื™ื™ ื‘ื• ืื ื™ ื›ืžื” ืœื™ืžื™ ืฆืขื™ืจื•ืชื™
00:24
so I want to confess to you
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ื•ืœื›ืŸ ืื ื™ ืจื•ืฆื” ืœื”ืชื•ื•ื“ื•ืช ื‘ืคื ื™ื›ื.
00:26
that when I was a kid,
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ื‘ืฆืขื™ืจื•ืชื™,
00:30
indeed, I was a conservative.
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ืื›ืŸ ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืฉืžืจืŸ.
00:33
I was a Young Republican, a Teenage Republican,
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ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืจืคื•ื‘ืœื™ืงืื™ ืฆืขื™ืจ, ืจืคื•ื‘ืœื™ืงืื™ ืžืชื‘ื’ืจ,
00:35
a leader in the Teenage Republicans.
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ืžื”ืžื•ื‘ื™ืœื™ื ืฉืœ ื”ื ื”ื’ืช ื”ืฆืขื™ืจื” ืฉืœ ื”ืจืคื•ื‘ืœื™ืงื ื™ื.
00:37
Indeed, I was the youngest member
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ืื›ืŸ, ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื”ื—ื‘ืจ ื”ืฆืขื™ืจ ื‘ื™ื•ืชืจ,
00:39
of any delegation
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ืžื›ืœ ื”ืžืฉืœื—ื•ืช,
00:41
in the 1980 convention that elected Ronald Reagan
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ื‘ื•ืขื™ื“ื” ืฉื‘ื—ืจื” ,ื‘ืฉื ืช 1980, ืืช ืจื•ื ืœื“ ืจื™ื™ื’ืŸ,
00:43
to be the Republican nominee for president.
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ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ื”ืžื•ืขืžื“ ืžื˜ืขื ื”ืจืคื•ื‘ืœื™ืงื ื™ื ืœื ืฉื™ืื•ืช.
00:47
Now, I know what you're thinking.
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ืื ื™ ื™ื•ื“ืข ืžื” ืืชื ื—ื•ืฉื‘ื™ื...
00:49
(Laughter)
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(ืฆื—ื•ืง)
00:51
You're thinking, "That's not what the Internets say."
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ืืชื ื—ื•ืฉื‘ื™ื: "ื–ื” ืœื ืžื” ืฉื›ืชื•ื‘ ื‘ืื™ื ื˜ืจื ื˜".
00:55
You're thinking, "Wikipedia doesn't say this fact."
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ืืชื ืื•ืžืจื™ื ืœืขืฆืžื›ื: "ื‘ื•ื™ืงื™ืคื“ื™ื” ื›ืชื•ื‘ ืื—ืจืช".
00:58
And indeed, this is just one of the examples
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ื•ืื›ืŸ, ื–ื•ื”ื™ ื“ื•ื’ืžื ืื—ืช ืžื™ื ื™ ืจื‘ื•ืช
01:01
of the junk that flows across the tubes
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ืฉืœ ื›ืžื•ืช ื”ืืฉืคื” ืฉืฆืคื” ื‘ืขืจื•ืฆื™ื ื”ืฉื•ื ื™ื
01:03
in these Internets here.
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ื‘ืขืžื•ื“ ืื™ื ื˜ืจื ื˜ ื–ื”,
01:06
Wikipedia reports that this guy,
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ื•ื™ืงื™ืคื“ื™ื” ืžื“ื•ื•ื—ืช ืฉื”ื‘ื—ื•ืจ ื”ื–ื”,
01:08
this former congressman from Erie, Pennsylvania
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ื—ื‘ืจ ื”ืงื•ื ื’ืจืก ื”ืืžืจื™ืงืื™ ืœืฉืขื‘ืจ ืžืื™ืจื™, ืคื ืกื™ืœื‘ื ื™ื”
01:11
was, at the age of 20, one of the youngest people
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ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื’ื™ืœ 20, ืื—ื“ ืžื”ืื ืฉื™ื ื”ืฆืขื™ืจื™ื ื‘ื™ื•ืชืจ
01:13
at the Republican National Convention,
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ืฉืœ ื•ืขื™ื“ืช ื”ืจืคื•ื‘ืœื™ืงื ื™ื ื”ืืจืฆื™ืช.
01:15
but it's just not true.
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ืื‘ืœ ื–ื” ืžืžืฉ ืœื ื ื›ื•ืŸ.
01:18
(Laughter)
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(ืฆื—ื•ืง)
01:20
Indeed, it drives me so nuts, let me just change this little fact here.
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ื–ื” ืžืžืฉ ืžืขืฆื‘ืŸ ืื•ืชื™ ื•ืœื›ืŸ ืชื ื• ืœื™ ืœืฉื ื•ืช ื ืชื•ืŸ ื–ื” ื›ืืŸ ื•ืขื›ืฉื™ื•.
01:23
(Laughter)
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(ืฆื—ื•ืง)
01:26
(Applause)
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(ืžื—ื™ืื•ืช ื›ืคื™ื™ื)
01:30
All right. Okay, so ... perfect.
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ื™ื•ืคื™, ื‘ืกื“ืจ, ืžืขื•ืœื”.
01:33
Perfect.
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ืžืฆื•ื™ื™ืŸ
01:35
(Laughter)
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(ืฆื—ื•ืง)
01:39
Okay, speaker Lawrence Lessig, right.
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ืื•ืงื™ื™, ื”ื“ื•ื‘ืจ ืœื•ืจื ืก ืœืกื™ื ื’, ื˜ื•ื‘.
01:42
Okay.
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ื™ื•ืคื™.
01:44
Finally, truth will be brought here.
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ืกื•ืฃ ืกื•ืฃ ื”ืืžืช ืžืชื’ืœื”.
01:46
Okay, see? It's done. It's almost done. Here we go.
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ื™ื•ืคื™, ืจื•ืื™ื? ื”ืขื ื™ื™ืŸ ืกื•ื“ืจ, ื›ืžืขื˜ ืกื•ื“ืจ. ื”ื ื”.
01:49
"... Youngest Republican," okay, we're finished.
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"..... ื”ืจืคื•ื‘ืœื™ืงืื™ ื”ืฆืขื™ืจ ื‘ื™ืชืจ," ื™ื•ืคื™, ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ืกื™ื™ืžื ื•.
01:53
That's it. Please save this.
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ื–ื”ื• ื–ื”. ืจืง ื ืฉืžื•ืจ ืืช ื–ื”
01:56
Great, here we go.
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ืžืขื•ืœื”, ื”ื ื”.
01:59
And ... Wikipedia is fixed, finally.
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ื•....ื•ื™ืงื™ืคื“ื™ื” ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ืžืขื•ื“ื›ื ืช. ืกื•ืฃ ืกื•ืฃ.
02:02
Okay, but no, this is really besides the point.
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ื ื”ื“ืจ, ืื‘ืœ ืœื, ื–ื” ืœื ืงืฉื•ืจ ืœื ื•ืฉื.
02:05
(Applause)
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(ืžื—ื™ืื•ืช ื›ืคื™ื™ื)
02:09
But the thing I want you to think about when we think about conservatives --
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ืื‘ืœ ื›ืฉืžื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืขืœ ื”ืชื ื•ืขื” ื”ืฉืžืจื ื™ืช ืื ื™ ืจื•ืฆื” ืฉืชื—ืฉื‘ื•
02:12
not so much this issue of the 1980 convention --
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ืœื ืขืœ ื”ืชืงืจื™ืช ืฉืงืจืชื” ื‘ื•ืขื™ื“ื” ื‘ืฉื ืช 1980 -
02:14
the thing to think about is this:
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ื™ืฉ ืœื—ืฉื•ื‘ ืขืœ ื”ื“ื‘ืจ ื”ื‘ื:
02:16
They go to church.
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ื”ื ื”ื•ืœื›ื™ื ืœื›ื ืกื™ื”.
02:18
Now, you know, I mean, a lot of people go to church.
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ืื ื™ ื™ื•ื“ืข, ื”ืจื‘ื” ืื ืฉื™ื ื”ื•ืœื›ื™ื ืœื›ื ืกื™ื”.
02:20
I'm not talking about that only conservatives go to church.
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ืื ื™ ืœื ืื•ืžืจ ืฉืจืง ืฉืžืจื ื™ื ืžื‘ืงืจื™ื ื‘ื›ื ืกื™ื”.
02:23
And I'm not talking about the God thing.
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ื•ืื™ื ื ื™ ืžื“ื‘ืจ ืขืœ ื“ื‘ืจ ื”ืืœ ืขืฆืžื•.
02:25
I don't want to get into that, you know; that's not my point.
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ืื ื™ ืœื ืจื•ืฆื” ืœื”ื›ื ืก ืœื ื•ืฉื ื–ื”, ื–ืืช ืœื ื”ื ืงื•ื“ื”.
02:27
They go to church, by which I mean,
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ื‘ืื•ืžืจื™ ืฉื”ื ื”ื•ืœื›ื™ื ืœื›ื ืกื™ื”, ืื ื™ ืžืชื›ื•ื•ืŸ,
02:29
they do lots of things for free for each other.
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ืฉื”ื ืขื•ืฉื™ื ื”ืจื‘ื” ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื‘ื—ื™ื ื ืื—ื“ ืœืฉื ื™.
02:33
They hold potluck dinners.
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ื”ื ืžืงื™ื™ืžื™ื ืืจื•ื—ื•ืช ืžืฉื•ืชืคื•ืช ื‘ื” ื›ืœ ืื•ืจื— ืžื›ื™ืŸ ืžื ื”.
02:35
Indeed, they sell books about potluck dinners.
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ื•ื’ื ืžื•ื›ืจื™ื ืกืคืจื™ื ืขืœ ืืจื•ื—ื•ืช ืžืฉื•ืชืคื•ืช
02:38
They serve food to poor people.
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ื”ื ืžื—ืœืงื™ื ืืจื•ื—ื•ืช ื—ื™ื ื ืœืขื ื™ื™ื.
02:41
They share, they give,
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ื”ื ืžืฉืชืคื™ื, ื”ื ื ื•ืชื ื™ื,
02:43
they give away for free.
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ื”ื ืžื—ืœืงื™ื ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื‘ื—ื™ื ื.
02:45
And it's the very same people
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ื•ืื•ืชื” ืงื‘ื•ืฆืช ืื ืฉื™ื
02:49
leading Wall Street firms
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ืžื•ื‘ื™ืœื” ื—ื‘ืจื•ืช ื‘ื•ื•ืœ ืกื˜ืจื™ื˜
02:52
who, on Sundays, show up
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ืฉื‘ื™ืžื™ ืจืืฉื•ืŸ, ืžืชื™ื™ืฆื‘ื™ื
02:55
and share.
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ื•ื—ื•ืœืงื™ื.
02:57
And not only food, right.
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ื•ืœื ืจืง ืื•ื›ืœ, ื›ืŸ?
02:59
These very same people
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ืื•ืชื” ืงื‘ื•ืฆืช ืื ืฉื™ื
03:01
are strong believers, in lots of contexts,
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ื”ื ืžืืžื™ื ื™ื ืื“ื•ืงื™ื, ื‘ื”ืจื‘ื” ื”ืงืฉืจื™ื,
03:04
in the limits on the markets.
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ื‘ืžื’ื‘ืœื•ืช ืฉืœ ื”ืฉื•ื•ืงื™ื.
03:07
They are in many important places
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ื”ื ื ืžืฆืื™ื ื‘ืžืงื•ืžื•ืช ื—ืฉื•ื‘ื™ื
03:10
against markets.
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ื›ื ื’ื“ ื”ืฉื•ื•ืงื™ื
03:12
Indeed, they, like all of us, celebrate this kind of relationship.
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ื•ืื›ืŸ, ื”ื, ื‘ื“ื™ื•ืง ื›ืžื• ื›ื•ืœื ื•, ื—ื•ื’ื’ื™ื ืžืขืจื›ืช ื™ื—ืกื™ื ื–ื•
03:15
But they're very keen that we don't
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ืื‘ืœ ื”ื ืžืื•ื“ ื ื—ืจืฆื™ื ืฉืื ื• ืœื
03:17
let money drop into that relationship,
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ื ื™ืชืŸ ืœื›ืกืฃ ืœื—ื“ื•ืจ ืœืžืขืจื›ืช ื™ื—ืกื™ื ื–ื•.
03:19
else it turns into something like this.
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ืื—ืจืช, ื–ื” ื™ื”ืคืš ืœืžืฉื”ื• ื›ื–ื”.
03:22
They want to regulate us, those conservatives,
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ื”ื ืจื•ืฆื™ื ืœื™ืฆื•ืจ ืจื’ื•ืœืฆื™ื”, ื”ืฉืžืจื ื™ื ื”ืœืœื•,
03:25
to stop us from allowing the market to spread in those places.
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ืฉืชืžื ืข ืžืื™ืชื ื• ืืช ื”ืืคืฉืจื•ืช ืฉื”ืฉื•ืง ื”ื—ื•ืคืฉื™ ื™ืชืคื–ืจ ืœืžืงื•ืžื•ืช ืืœื•
03:28
Because they understand:
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ื›ื™ ื”ื ืžื‘ื™ื ื™ื:
03:31
There are places for the market
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ื™ืฉ ืžืงื•ื ืœืฉื•ืง
03:33
and places where the market should not exist,
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ื•ืžืงื•ื ื‘ื• ื”ืฉื•ืง ืœื ืฆืจื™ืš ืœื”ืชืงื™ื™ื,
03:36
where we should be free
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ื‘ื• ืื ื• ืฆืจื™ื›ื™ื ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ื—ื•ืคืฉื™ื™ื
03:39
to enjoy the fellowship of others.
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ืœื”ื ื•ืช ืžื—ื‘ืจื•ื™ื•ืช ืฉืœ ืื—ืจื™ื
03:42
They recognize: Both of these things have to live together.
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ื”ื ืžื‘ื™ื ื™ื ืฉืฉื ื™ ื”ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื—ื™ื™ื‘ื™ื ืœืขื‘ื•ื“ ื™ื—ื“.
03:46
And the second great thing about conservatives:
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ื•ื”ื“ื‘ืจ ื”ื’ื“ื•ืœ ื”ืฉื ื™ ืืฆืœ ืฉืžืจื ื™ื
03:49
they get ecology.
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ื”ื ืžื‘ื™ื ื™ื ืืงื•ืœื•ื’ื™ื”.
03:51
Right, it was the first great Republican president of the 20th century
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ื›ืŸ, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื”ื ืฉื™ื ื”ืจืคื•ื‘ืœื™ืงื ื™ ื”ืจืืฉื•ืŸ ื‘ืžืื” ื” 20
03:54
who taught us about
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ืฉืœื™ืžื“ ืื•ืชื ื• ืœื—ืฉื•ื‘
03:56
environmental thinking -- Teddy Roosevelt.
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ื‘ืฆื•ืจื” ื™ื“ื™ื“ื•ืชื™ืช ืœืกื‘ื™ื‘ื” - ื˜ื“ื™ ืจื•ื–ื•ื•ืœื˜.
03:58
They first taught us about ecology
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ืจืืฉื™ืช ืœื™ืžื“ื• ืื•ืชื ื• ืขืœ ืืงื•ืœื•ื’ื™ื”
04:00
in the context of natural resources.
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ื‘ื”ืงืฉืจ ืฉืœ ืžืฉืื‘ื™ื ื˜ื‘ืขื™ื™ื.
04:03
And then they began to teach us in the context of
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ื•ืœืื—ืจ ืžื›ืŸ, ื”ื—ืœื• ืœืœืžื“ ืื•ืชื ื• ืœื—ืฉื•ื‘ ื‘ืžื•ื‘ื ื™ื ืฉืœ
04:05
innovation, economics.
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ื—ื“ืฉื ื•ืช, ื›ืœื›ืœื”.
04:07
They understand, in that context,
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ื”ื ืžื‘ื™ื ื™ื, ื‘ื”ืงืฉืจ ื”ื–ื”,
04:09
"free." They understand "free" is an important
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"ื—ื•ืคืฉื™." ื”ื ืžื‘ื™ื ื™ื ืฉ"ื—ื•ืคืฉื™"
04:12
essential part of the
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ื–ื” ื—ืœืง ื—ืฉื•ื‘
04:14
cultural ecology as well.
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ื’ื ืฉืœ ื”ืืงื•ืœื•ื’ื™ื” ื”ืชืจื‘ื•ืชื™ืช.
04:16
That's the thing I want you to think about them.
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ื–ื” ืžื” ืฉืื ื™ ืจื•ืฆื” ืฉืชื—ืฉื‘ื• ืขืœื™ื”ื.
04:21
Now, I know
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ืขื›ืฉื™ื•, ืื ื™ ื™ื•ื“ืข
04:23
you don't believe me, really, here.
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ืืชื ืœื ืžืืžื™ื ื™ื ืœื™, ื‘ืืžืช, ื›ืืŸ.
04:28
So here's exhibit number one.
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ืื– ื”ื ื” ืžื•ืฆื’ ืžืกืคืจ ืื—ื“.
04:30
I want to share with you my latest hero, Julian Sanchez,
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ืื ื™ ืจื•ืฆื” ืœืกืคืจ ืœื›ื ืขืœ ื”ื’ื™ื‘ื•ืจ ื”ืื—ืจื•ืŸ ืฉืœื™, ื’'ื•ืœื™ืืŸ ืกื ืฆ'ื–,
04:33
a libertarian who works at the, for many people,
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ืœื™ื‘ืจื˜ื ื™ ืฉืขื•ื‘ื“, ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœ ื”ืจื‘ื” ืื ืฉื™ื,
04:36
"evil" Cato Institute.
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ื‘ืžื›ื•ืŸ ืงืื˜ื• ื”"ืžืจื•ืฉืข".
04:39
Okay, so Julian made this video.
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ืื•ืงื™ื™, ืื– ื’'ื•ืœื™ืืŸ ืขืฉื” ืืช ื”ื•ื™ื“ืื• ื”ื–ื”.
04:41
He's a terrible producer of videos,
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ื”ื•ื ืžืคื™ืง ื ื•ืจืื™ ืฉืœ ืกืจื˜ื™ื,
04:43
but it's great content, so I'm going to give you a little bit of it.
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ืื‘ืœ ื–ื” ืชื•ื›ืŸ ืžืขื•ืœื”, ืื– ืื ื™ ืืจืื” ืœื›ื ืงืฆืช ืžื–ื”.
04:45
So here he is beginning.
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ืื– ืคื” ื”ื•ื ืžืชื—ื™ืœ.
04:47
Julian Sanchez: I'm going to make an observation about the way
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ื’'ื•ืœื™ืืŸ ืกื ืฆ'ื–: ืื ื™ ืขื•ืžื“ ืœืขืจื•ืš ืื‘ื—ื ื” ืขืœ ื”ื“ืจืš
04:49
remix culture seems to be evolving ...
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ื‘ื” ืชืจื‘ื•ืช ื”ืจืžื™ืงืก ืžืชืคืชื—ืช...
04:51
Larry Lessig: So what he does is he begins to tell us
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ืœืืจื™ ืœืกื™ื’: ืื– ื”ื•ื ืžืชื—ื™ืœ ืœืกืคืจ ืœื ื•
04:53
about these three videos.
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ืขืœ ืฉืœื•ืฉืช ื”ืกืจื˜ื™ื ื”ืืœื”.
04:56
This is this fantastic Brat Pack remix
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ื–ื” ืจืžื™ืงืก "ื‘ืจืื˜ ืคืืง" ื”ืคื ื˜ืกื˜ื™
04:59
set to Lisztomania.
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ืžื›ื•ื•ืŸ ืœืœื™ืกื˜ื•ืžื ื™ื”.
05:03
Which, of course, spread virally.
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ืฉื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ, ื”ืชืคืฉื˜ ื•ื™ืจืืœื™ืช.
05:05
Hugely successful.
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ืžืื•ื“ ืžื•ืฆืœื—.
05:07
(Music)
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(ืžื•ื–ื™ืงื”)
05:11
And then some people from Brooklyn saw it.
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ื•ืื– ื›ืžื” ืื ืฉื™ื ืžื‘ืจื•ืงืœื™ืŸ ืจืื• ืืช ื–ื”.
05:13
They decided they wanted to do the same.
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ื”ื ื”ื—ืœื™ื˜ื• ืฉื”ื ืจื•ืฆื™ื ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืื•ืชื• ื”ื“ื‘ืจ.
05:20
(Music)
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(ืžื•ื–ื™ืงื”)
05:37
And then, of course, people from San Fransisco saw it.
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ื•ืื–, ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ, ืื ืฉื™ื ืžืกืŸ ืคืจื ืกื™ืกืงื• ืจืื• ืืช ื–ื”.
05:39
And San Franciscans thought they had to do the same as well.
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ื•ืกืŸ ืคืจื ืกื™ืกืงื• ื—ืฉื‘ื• ืฉื”ื ืฆืจื™ื›ื™ื ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืืช ืื•ืชื• ื”ื“ื‘ืจ.
05:42
(Music)
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(ืžื•ื–ื™ืงื”)
06:03
And so they're beautiful, but this libertarian
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ืื– ื”ื ื ืคืœืื™ื, ืื‘ืœ ืœืœื™ื‘ืจื˜ื ื™ ื”ื–ื”
06:06
has some important lessons he wants us to learn from this.
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ื”ื™ื• ื›ืžื” ืœืงื—ื™ื ืฉื”ื•ื ืจืฆื” ืฉื ืœืžื“ ืžื–ื”.
06:08
Here's lesson number one.
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ื”ื ื” ืฉื™ืขื•ืจ ืžืกืคืจ ืื—ื“.
06:11
JS: There's obviously also something really deeply great about this.
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ื’.ืก: ื™ืฉ ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ ื’ื ืžืฉื”ื• ื ืคืœื ื‘ื–ื”.
06:15
They are acting in the sense that they're
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ื”ื ืคื•ืขืœื™ื ื‘ืžื•ื‘ืŸ ืฉื”ื
06:18
emulating the original mashup.
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ืžื“ืžื™ื ืืช ื”ืžืืฉืืค ื”ืžืงื•ืจื™.
06:20
And the guy who shot it obviously has a strong eye
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ื•ืœื‘ื—ื•ืจ ืฉืฆื™ืœื ืื•ืชื• ื‘ื‘ืจื•ืจ ื™ืฉ ืขื™ืŸ ื˜ื•ื‘ื”
06:23
and some experience with video editing.
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ื•ื ืกื™ื•ืŸ ื‘ืขืจื™ื›ืช ื•ื™ื“ืื•.
06:25
But this is also basically just a group of friends
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ืื‘ืœ ื–ื” ื’ื ื‘ืขื™ืงืจื•ืŸ ืจืง ืงื‘ื•ืฆื” ืฉืœ ื—ื‘ืจื™ื
06:28
having an authentic social moment
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ืฉื—ื•ื•ื™ื ืจื’ืข ื—ื‘ืจืชื™ ืืžื™ืชื™
06:30
and screwing around together.
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ื•ืžืฉื—ืงื™ื ื‘ื™ื—ื“.
06:32
It should feel familiar and kind of resonate
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ื–ื” ืฆืจื™ืš ืœื”ืจื’ื™ืฉ ืžื•ื›ืจ ื•ื“ื™ ืœื”ื“ื”ื“
06:34
for anyone who's had a sing-a-long or a dance party
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ืœื›ืœ ืžื™ ืฉื”ื™ืชื” ืœื• ืžืกื™ื‘ืช ืจื™ืงื•ื“ื™ื ื•ืงืจื™ื•ืงื™
06:36
with a group of good friends.
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ืขื ืงื‘ื•ืฆื” ืฉืœ ื—ื‘ืจื™ื.
06:38
LL: Or ...
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ืœ.ืœ: ืื•...
06:40
JS: So that's importantly different from the earlier videos we looked at
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ื’.ืก: ืื– ื–ื” ืžืื•ื“ ืฉื•ื ื” ืžื”ืกืจื˜ื™ื ื”ืจืืฉื•ื ื™ื ืฉืจืื™ื ื•
06:43
because here, remix isn't just about
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ืžืคื ื™ ืฉื›ืืŸ, ืจืžื™ืงืก ื”ื•ื ืœื ืจืง
06:45
an individual doing something alone in his basement;
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ืื“ื ื‘ื•ื“ื“ ืขื•ืฉื” ืžืฉื”ื• ืœื‘ื“ ื‘ืžืจืชืฃ ืฉืœื•;
06:48
it becomes an act of social creativity.
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ื–ื” ื”ื•ืคืš ืœืคืขื•ืœื” ืฉืœ ื™ืฆื™ืจืชื™ื•ืช ื—ื‘ืจืชื™ืช.
06:51
And it's not just that it yields
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ืื‘ืœ ื–ื” ืœื ืจืง ืฉื–ื” ืžืคื™ืง
06:53
a different kind of product at the end,
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ืกื•ื’ ืื—ืจ ืฉืœ ืžื•ืฆืจ ื‘ืกื•ืฃ,
06:56
it's that potentially it changes the way that we relate to each other.
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ื–ื” ืฉื‘ืขื™ืงืจื•ืŸ ื–ื” ืžืฉื ื” ืืช ื”ื“ืจืš ื‘ื” ืื ื—ื ื• ืžืชืงืฉืจื™ื ืื—ื“ ืœืฉื ื™.
07:00
All of our normal social interactions
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ื›ืœ ื”ืงืฉืจื™ื ื”ื—ื‘ืจืชื™ื™ื ื”ืจื’ื™ืœื™ื ืฉืœื ื•
07:03
become a kind of invitation
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ื”ื•ืคื›ื™ื ืœืกื•ื’ ืฉืœ ื”ื–ืžื ื”
07:05
to this sort of collective expression.
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ืœืกื•ื’ ื”ื–ื” ืฉืœ ื”ื›ืจื” ืงื•ืœืงื˜ื™ื‘ื™ืช.
07:07
It's our real social lives themselves
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ืืœื ื”ื—ื™ื™ื ื”ื—ื‘ืจืชื™ื™ื ื”ืืžื™ืชื™ื™ื ืฉืœื ื• ื‘ืขืฆืžื
07:09
that are transmuted into art.
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ืฉื ื”ืคื›ื™ื ืœืืžื ื•ืช.
07:12
LL: And so then, what this libertarian draws from these two points ...
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ืœ.ืœ: ื•ืื– ืžื” ืฉื”ืœื™ื‘ืจื˜ื ื™ ืฉื•ืื‘ ืžืฉืชื™ ื”ื ืงื•ื“ื•ืช ื”ืืœื• ...
07:15
JS: One remix is about
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ื’.ืก: ืจืžื™ืงืก ืื—ื“ ื”ื•ื ืขืœ
07:17
individuals using our shared culture
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ื™ื—ื™ื“ื™ื ืฉืžืฉืชืžืฉื™ื ื‘ืชืจื‘ื•ืช ื”ืžืฉื•ืชืคืช ืฉืœื ื•
07:19
as a kind of language to communicate something to an audience.
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ื›ืกื•ื’ ืฉืœ ืฉืคื” ื›ื“ื™ ืœืชืงืฉืจ ืžืฉื”ื• ืœืงื”ืœ.
07:22
Stage two, social remix,
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ืฉืœื‘ ืฉืชื™ื, ืจืžื™ืงืก ื—ื‘ืจืชื™,
07:24
is really about using it to mediate
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ื–ื” ื‘ืืžืช ืœื”ืฉืชืžืฉ ื‘ื–ื” ื›ื“ื™ ืœืชื•ื•ืš
07:26
people's relationships to each other.
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ื‘ื™ืŸ ืจื’ืฉื•ืช ืฉืœ ืื ืฉื™ื ืื—ื“ ืœืฉื ื™.
07:29
First, within each video,
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ืจืืฉื™ืช, ื‘ืชื•ืš ื›ืœ ืกืจื˜ื•ืŸ,
07:31
the Brat Pack characters are used as a kind of template
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ื”ื“ืžื•ื™ื•ืช ื‘ื—ื‘ื•ืจืช ื‘ืจืื˜ ืžืฉืžืฉื•ืช ืžืขื™ืŸ ืชื‘ื ื™ื•ืช
07:34
for performing the social reality of each group.
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ืœื‘ื™ืฆื•ืข ื”ืžืฆื™ืื•ืช ื”ื—ื‘ืจืชื™ืช ืฉืœ ื›ืœ ืงื‘ื•ืฆื”.
07:37
But there's also a dialogue between the videos,
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ืื‘ืœ ื™ืฉ ื’ื ื“ื™ืืœื•ื’ ื‘ื™ืŸ ื”ืกืจื˜ื•ื ื™ื,
07:40
where, once the basic structure is established,
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ื‘ื•, ื‘ืจื’ืข ืฉื”ืžื‘ื ื” ื”ื‘ืกื™ืกื™ ื ืงื‘ืข,
07:43
it becomes a kind of platform
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ื–ื” ื ืขืฉื” ืœืžืขื™ืŸ ืคืœื˜ืคื•ืจืžื”
07:45
for articulating the similarities and differences
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ืœื”ื“ื’ืฉืช ื”ื“ื•ืžื” ื•ื”ืฉื•ื ื”
07:48
between the groups' social and physical worlds.
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ื‘ื™ืŸ ื”ืขื•ืœืžื•ืช ื”ืžื•ื—ืฉื™ื™ื ื•ื”ื—ื‘ืจืชื™ื™ื ืฉืœ ื”ืงื‘ื•ืฆื•ืช.
07:51
LL: And then, here's for me,
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ืœ.ืœ: ื•ืื–, ื”ื ื” ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœื™,
07:53
the critical key to what
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ื”ืžืคืชื— ื”ืขื™ืงืจื™ ืœืžื”
07:55
Julian has to say ...
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ืฉื™ืฉ ืœื’'ื•ืœื™ืืŸ ืœื”ื’ื™ื“ ...
07:57
JS: Copyright policy isn't just about
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ื’.ืก: ืžื“ื™ื ื™ื•ืช ื–ื›ื•ื™ื•ืช ื”ื™ื•ืฆืจื™ื ื”ื™ื ืœื ืจืง ื ื•ื’ืขืช
07:59
how to incentivize the production
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ืœืื™ืš ืœืชืžืจืฅ ืืช ื”ื”ืคืงื”
08:01
of a certain kind of artistic commodity;
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ืฉืœ ืกื•ื’ ืžืกื•ื™ื™ื ืฉืœ ืžื•ืฆืจ ืืžื ื•ืชื™;
08:03
it's about what level of control
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ื–ื” ื ื•ื’ืข ืœืจืžืช ื”ืฉืœื™ื˜ื”
08:05
we're going to permit to be exercised
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ืฉืื ื—ื ื• ืขื•ืžื“ื™ื ืœื”ืจืฉื•ืช ืฉืชืงืจื”
08:07
over our social realities --
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ื‘ืžืฆื™ืื•ืช ื”ื—ื‘ืจืชื™ืช ืฉืœื ื• --
08:09
social realities that are now inevitably
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ืžืฆื™ืื•ืช ื—ื‘ืจืชื™ืช ืฉืขื›ืฉื™ื• ื‘ืื•ืคืŸ ื‘ืœืชื™ ื ืžื ืข
08:12
permeated by pop culture.
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ืžื—ืœื—ืœื•ืช ืขืœ ื™ื“ ืชืจื‘ื•ืช ื”ืคื•ืค.
08:14
I think it's important that we
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ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉื–ื” ื—ืฉื•ื‘ ืฉืื ื—ื ื•
08:16
keep these two different kinds of public goods in mind.
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ื ืฉืžื•ืจ ืขืœ ืฉืชื™ ื”ืกื—ื•ืจื•ืช ื”ืฆื™ื‘ื•ืจื™ื•ืช ื”ืฉื•ื ื•ืช ื‘ืจืืฉื ื•.
08:19
If we're only focused on how to maximize
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ืื ืื ื—ื ื• ืจืง ืžืจื•ื›ื–ื™ื ืขืœ ืื™ืš ืœืžืงืกื
08:22
the supply of one,
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ืืช ื”ืืกืคืงื” ืฉืœ ืื—ื“ ืžื”ื,
08:24
I think we risk suppressing
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ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉื ื”ื™ื™ื” ื‘ืกื™ื›ื•ืŸ ืฉืœ ื”ื“ื—ืงื”
08:26
this different and richer
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ืฉืœ ื”ืื—ืจ ื”ืฉื•ื ื” ื”ืขืฉื™ืจ ื™ื•ืชืจ
08:28
and, in some ways, maybe even more important one.
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ื•ื‘ื“ืจืš ืžืกื•ื™ื™ืžืช, ืื•ืœื™ ื—ืฉื•ื‘ ื™ื•ืชืจ.
08:31
LL: Right. Bingo. Point.
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ืœ.ืœ: ื‘ืกื“ืจ. ื‘ื™ื ื’ื•. ื ืงื•ื“ื”.
08:34
Freedom needs this opportunity
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ื”ื—ื•ืคืฉ ืฆืจื™ืš ืืช ื”ื”ื–ื“ืžื ื•ืช ื”ื–ืืช
08:37
to both have the commercial success
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ื›ื“ื™ ืฉื™ื”ื™ื” ืœื• ื’ื ืืช ื”ื”ืฆืœื—ื” ื”ืžืกื—ืจื™ืช
08:40
of the great commercial works
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ืฉืœ ื”ืชื”ืœื™ื›ื™ื ื”ืžืกื—ืจื™ื™ื ื”ื’ื“ื•ืœื™ื
08:42
and the opportunity
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ื•ื”ื”ื–ื“ืžื ื•ืช
08:44
to build this different kind of culture.
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ืœื‘ื ื•ืช ืืช ื”ืชืจื‘ื•ืช ื”ืฉื•ื ื” ื”ื–ื•.
08:46
And for that to happen, you need
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ื•ื›ื“ื™ ืฉื–ื” ื™ืงืจื”, ืืชื ืฆืจื™ื›ื™ื
08:48
ideas like fair use to be central and protected,
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ืจืขื™ื•ื ื•ืช ื›ืžื• ืฉื™ืžื•ืฉ ื”ื•ื’ืŸ ืฉื™ื”ื™ื” ืžืจื•ื›ื– ื•ืžื•ื’ืŸ,
08:51
to enable this kind of innovation,
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ืœืืคืฉืจ ืืช ื”ืกื•ื’ ื”ื–ื” ืฉืœ ื—ื“ืฉื ื•ืช,
08:54
as this libertarian tells us,
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ื›ืžื• ืฉื”ืœื™ื‘ืจื˜ืจื™ ื”ื–ื” ืื•ืžืจ ืœื ื•,
08:56
between these two creative cultures,
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ื‘ื™ืŸ ืฉืชื™ ื”ืชืจื‘ื•ื™ื•ืช ื”ื™ืฆื™ืจืชื™ื•ืช ื”ืืœื•,
08:59
a commercial and a sharing culture.
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ืชืจื‘ื•ื™ื•ืช ืžืกื—ืจื™ื•ืช ื•ืฉื™ืชื•ืคื™ื•ืช.
09:02
The point is they, he, here,
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ื”ื ืงื•ื“ื” ื”ื™ื ืฉื”ื, ื”ื•ื, ื›ืืŸ,
09:04
gets that culture.
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ืžื‘ื™ื ื™ื ืืช ื”ืชืจื‘ื•ืช ื”ื–ืืช.
09:06
Now, my concern is, we Dems,
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ืขื›ืฉื™ื•, ื”ื“ืื’ื” ืฉืœื™ ื”ื™ื, ืื ื—ื ื• ื”ื“ืžื•ืงืจื˜ื™ื,
09:09
too often, not so much.
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ืœืขื™ืชื™ื ืจื‘ื•ืช ืžื“ื™, ืœื ืžืžืฉ.
09:12
All right, take for example this great company.
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ื‘ืกื“ืจ, ืงื—ื• ืœื“ื•ื’ืžื” ืืช ื”ื—ื‘ืจื” ื”ื ืคืœืื” ื”ื–ื•.
09:16
In the good old days when this Republican ran that company,
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ื‘ื™ืžื™ื ื”ื˜ื•ื‘ื™ื ื›ืฉื”ืจืคื•ื‘ืœื™ืงืื™ ื”ื–ื” ื ื™ื”ืœ ืืช ื”ื—ื‘ืจื” ื”ื”ื™ื,
09:19
their greatest work was work that built on the past, right.
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ื”ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ื”ื˜ื•ื‘ื” ื‘ื™ื•ืชืจ ืฉืœื”ื ื”ื™ืชื” ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ืฉื‘ื ืชื” ืขืœ ื”ืขื‘ืจ, ื‘ืกื“ืจ.
09:22
All of the great Disney works
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ื›ืœ ื”ืขื‘ื•ื“ื•ืช ื”ื’ื“ื•ืœื•ืช ืฉืœ ื“ื™ืกื ื™
09:25
were works that took works that
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ื”ื™ื• ืขื‘ื•ื“ื•ืช ืฉืœืงื—ื• ืขื‘ื•ื“ื•ืช
09:27
were in the public domain and remixed them,
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ืฉื”ื™ื• ื‘ื ื—ืœืช ื”ื›ืœืœ ื•ืขืฉื• ืœื”ื ืจืžื™ืงืก,
09:29
or waited until they entered the public domain to remix them,
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ืื• ื—ื™ื›ื• ืขื“ ืฉื”ื ื ื›ื ืกื• ืœื ื—ืœืช ื”ื›ืœืœ ื›ื“ื™ ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืœื”ื ืจืžื™ืงืก,
09:32
to celebrate this add-on remix creativity.
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ื›ื“ื™ ืœื—ื’ื•ื’ ืืช ื™ืฆื™ืจืชื™ื•ืช ื”ืจืžื™ืงืก ื”ืžื•ืกืคืช ื”ื–ื•.
09:35
Indeed, Mickey Mouse himself, of course,
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ื•ื‘ืืžืช, ืžื™ืงื™ ืžืื•ืก ื‘ืขืฆืžื•, ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ,
09:38
as "Steamboat Willie,"
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ื› "ืกืคื™ื ืช ื”ืงื™ื˜ื•ืจ ื•ื•ื™ืœื™,"
09:40
is a remix of the then, very dominant,
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ื”ื•ื ืจืžื™ืงืก ืฉืœ "ืกืคื™ื ืช ื”ืงื™ื˜ื•ืจ ื‘ื™ืœ"
09:43
very popular "Steamboat Bill"
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ื”ืžืื•ื“ ืคื•ืคื•ืœืจื™ ื‘ื–ืžื ื•
09:45
by Buster Keaton.
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ืžืืช ื‘ืืกื˜ืจ ืงื™ื˜ื•ืŸ.
09:47
This man was a remixer extraordinaire.
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ื”ืื™ืฉ ื”ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืจืžื™ืงืกืจ ืžื“ื”ื™ื.
09:50
He is the celebration and ideal
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ื”ื•ื ื”ื—ื’ื™ื’ื” ื•ื”ืื™ื“ื™ืืœ
09:52
of exactly this kind of creativity.
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ืฉืœ ื”ืกื•ื’ ื”ื–ื” ื‘ื“ื™ื•ืง ืฉืœ ื™ืฆื™ืจืชื™ื•ืช.
09:55
But then the company passes
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ืื‘ืœ ืื– ื”ื—ื‘ืจื” ืขื•ื‘ืจืช
09:57
through this dark stage
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ื“ืจืš ื”ืฉืœื‘ ื”ืืคืœ ื”ื–ื”
10:00
to this Democrat.
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ืœื“ืžื•ืงืจื˜ ื”ื–ื”.
10:02
Wildly different.
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ืฉื•ื ื” ืœื—ืœื•ื˜ื™ืŸ.
10:04
This is the mastermind behind
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ื–ื” ื”ืžื•ื— ื”ื’ืื•ื ื™ ืžืื—ื•ืจื™
10:06
the eventual passage of what we call
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ื”ืžืขื‘ืจ ื‘ืกื•ืคื• ืฉืœ ื“ื‘ืจ ืฉืœ ืžื” ืฉืื ื—ื ื• ืงื•ืจืื™ื ืœื•
10:08
the Sonny Bono Copyright Term Extension Act,
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ื”ืจื—ื‘ืช ืกื•ื ื™ ื‘ื•ื ื• ืœื—ื•ืง ื–ื›ื•ื™ื•ืช ื”ื™ื•ืฆืจื™ื,
10:11
extending the term of existing copyrights
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ืฉืžืืจื™ืš ืืช ืชืงื•ืคืช ื–ื›ื•ื™ื•ืช ื”ื™ื•ืฆืจื™ื ื”ืงื™ื™ืžื•ืช
10:13
by 20 years,
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ื‘ 20 ืฉื ื”,
10:15
so that no one could do to Disney
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ื›ืš ืฉืืฃ ืื—ื“ ืœื ื™ื•ื›ืœ ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืœื–ื™ืกื ื™
10:17
what Disney did to the Brothers Grimm.
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ืžื” ืฉื“ื™ืกื ื™ ืขืฉืชื” ืœืื—ื™ื ื’ืจื™ื.
10:20
Now, when we tried to challenge this,
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ืขื›ืฉื™ื•, ื›ืฉื ื™ืกื™ื ื• ืœืขืžื•ื“ ืžื•ืœ ื–ื”,
10:22
going to the Supreme Court, getting the Supreme Court, the bunch of conservatives there --
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ื•ื”ืœื›ื ื• ืœื‘ื™ืช ื”ืžืฉืคื˜ ื”ืขืœื™ื•ืŸ, ื•ื’ืจืžื ื• ืœื‘ื™ืช ื”ืžืฉืคื˜ ื”ืขืœื™ื•ืŸ, ื—ื‘ื•ืจื” ืฉืœ ืฉืœื•ืฉื” ืฉืžืจื ื™ื --
10:25
if we could get them to wake up to this -- to strike it down,
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ืื ื”ื™ื™ื ื• ื™ื›ื•ืœื™ื ืœื’ืจื•ื ืœื”ื ืœื”ืชืขื•ืจืจ ืœื–ื” -- ืœื”ืคื™ืœ ืืช ื–ื”,
10:28
we had the assistance of Nobel Prize winners
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ื”ื™ืชื” ืœื ื• ืืช ื”ืชืžื™ื›ื” ืฉืœ ื–ื•ื›ื™ ืคืจืก ื ื•ื‘ืœ
10:31
including this right-wing
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ื›ื•ืœืœ ืžื”ืื’ืฃ ื”ื™ืžื ื™
10:34
Nobel Prize winner, Milton Friedman,
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ื–ื•ื›ื” ืคืจืก ื”ื ื•ื‘ืœ, ืžื™ืœื˜ื•ืŸ ืคืจื™ื“ืžืŸ,
10:36
who said he would join our brief
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ืฉืืžืจ ืฉื”ื•ื ื™ืฆื˜ืจืฃ ืœืชื‘ื™ืขื” ืฉืœื ื•
10:38
only if the word "no brainer"
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ืจืง ืขื ื”ืžื™ืœื” "ื‘ืจื•ืจ ืžืืœื™ื•"
10:40
was in the brief somewhere.
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ื”ื™ืชื” ื‘ืชื‘ื™ืขื” ื”ื™ื›ืŸ ืฉื”ื•ื.
10:42
(Laughter)
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(ืฆื—ื•ืง)
10:44
But apparently, no brains
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ืื‘ืœ ืžืกืชื‘ืจ, ืฉืœื
10:46
existed in this place
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ื”ื™ืชื” ื—ืฉื™ื‘ื”
10:48
when Democrats passed and signed
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ื›ืฉื“ืžื•ืงืจื˜ื™ื ื”ืขื‘ื™ืจื• ื•ื—ืชืžื•
10:50
this bill into law.
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ืขืœ ื”ื”ืฆืขื” ื”ื–ื• ืœื—ื•ืง.
10:52
Now, tiny little quibble of a footnote:
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ืขื›ืฉื™ื•, ื”ืขืจืช ืฉื•ืœื™ื™ื ืงื˜ื ื˜ื ื”:
10:54
Sonny Bono, you might say, was a Republican,
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ืกื•ื ื™ ื‘ื•ื ื•, ืื•ืœื™ ืชื’ื™ื“ื•, ื”ื™ื” ืจืคื•ื‘ืœื™ืงืื™,
10:57
but I don't buy it.
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ืื‘ืœ ืื ื™ ืœื ืงื•ื ื” ืืช ื–ื”.
10:59
This guy is no Republican.
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ื”ื‘ื—ื•ืจ ื”ื–ื” ื”ื•ื ืœื ืจืคื•ื‘ืœื™ืงืื™.
11:02
Okay, for a second example,
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ืื•ืงื™ื™, ืœื“ื•ื’ืžื” ื”ืฉื ื™ื”,
11:04
think about this cultural hero,
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ืชื—ืฉื‘ื• ืขืœ ื”ื’ื™ื‘ื•ืจ ื”ืชืจื‘ื•ืชื™ ื”ื–ื”,
11:06
icon on the Left,
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ืื™ื™ืงื•ืŸ ืžืฆื“ ืฉืžืืœ,
11:09
creator of this character.
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ื”ื™ื•ืฆืจ ืฉืœ ื”ื“ืžื•ืช ื”ื–ื•.
11:11
Look at the site that he built: "Star Wars" MashUps,
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ืชืจืื• ืืช ื”ืืชืจ ืฉื”ื•ื ื‘ื ื”: ืžืืฉืืคื™ื ืฉืœ ืžืœื—ืžืช ื”ื›ื•ื›ื‘ื™ื,
11:13
inviting people to come and use their creative energy
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ืžื–ืžื™ื ื™ื ืื ืฉื™ื ืœื‘ื•ื ื•ืœื”ืฉืชืžืฉ ื‘ืื ืจื’ื™ื” ื”ื™ืฆื™ืจืชื™ืช ืฉืœื”ื
11:16
to produce a new generation of attention
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ืœื”ืคื™ืง ื“ื•ืจ ื—ื“ืฉ ืฉืœ ืชืฉื•ืžืช ืœื‘
11:18
towards this extraordinarily important cultural icon.
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ืœืื™ืงื•ืŸ ื”ื—ื‘ืจืชื™ ื”ื—ืฉื•ื‘ ื‘ื™ื•ืชืจ ื”ื–ื”.
11:21
Read the license.
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ืชืงืจืื• ืืช ื”ืจืฉื™ื•ืŸ.
11:23
The license for these remixers
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ื”ืจืฉื™ื•ืŸ ืœืจืžื™ืงืกื™ื ื”ืืœื”
11:25
assigns all of the rights
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ื ื•ืชืŸ ืืช ื›ืœ ื”ื–ื›ื•ื™ื•ืช
11:27
to the remix back to Lucas.
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ืฉืœ ื”ืจืžื™ืงืก ื‘ื—ื–ืจื” ืœืœื•ืงืืก.
11:29
The mashup is owned by Lucas.
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ื”ืžืืฉืืค ืฉื™ื™ืš ืœืœื•ืงืืก.
11:32
Indeed, anything you add to the mashup,
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ื‘ื”ื—ืœื˜, ื›ืœ ื“ื‘ืจ ืฉืชื•ืกื™ืคื• ืœืžืืฉืืค,
11:34
music you might add,
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ืžื•ื–ื™ืงื” ืฉืชื•ืกื™ืคื•,
11:36
Lucas has a worldwide perpetual right
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ืœืœื•ืงืืก ื™ืฉ ื–ื›ื•ืช ืขื•ืœืžื™ืช ืงื‘ื•ืขื”
11:38
to exploit that for free.
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ืœื”ืฉืชืžืฉ ื‘ื–ื” ื‘ื—ื™ื ื.
11:40
There is no creator here to be recognized.
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ืื™ืŸ ื™ื•ืฆืจ ืคื” ืœื”ื›ื™ืจ ื‘ื•.
11:43
The creator doesn't have any rights.
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ืœื™ื•ืฆืจ ืื™ืŸ ื–ื›ื•ื™ื•ืช.
11:45
The creator is a sharecropper in this story.
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ื”ื™ื•ืฆืจ ื”ื•ื ืจืง ืืจื™ืก ื‘ืกื™ืคื•ืจ ื”ื–ื”.
11:48
And we should remember
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ื•ืื ื—ื ื• ืฆืจื™ื›ื™ื ืœื–ื›ื•ืจ
11:50
who employed the sharecroppers:
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ืžื™ ืžืขืกื™ืง ืืจื™ืกื™ื:
11:52
the Democrats, right?
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ื”ื“ืžื•ืงืจื˜ื™ื, ื ื›ื•ืŸ?
11:54
So the point is the Republicans here
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ืื– ื”ื ืงื•ื“ื” ื”ื™ื ืฉื”ืจืคื•ื‘ืœื™ืงืื™ื ืคื”
11:57
recognize that there's a certain need
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ื”ื›ื™ืจื• ื‘ื–ื” ืฉื™ืฉ ืฆื•ืจืš
11:59
of ownership,
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ืœื‘ืขืœื•ืช,
12:01
a respect for ownership,
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ื›ื‘ื•ื“ ืœื‘ืขืœื•ืช.
12:03
the respect we should give the creator,
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ื”ื›ื‘ื•ื“ ืฉืฆืจื™ืš ืœืชืช ืœื™ื•ืฆืจ,
12:05
the remixer, the owner, the property owner,
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ืื™ืฉ ื”ืจืžื™ืงืก, ื”ื‘ืขืœื™ื, ื‘ืขืœ ื”ื–ื›ื•ื™ื•ืช,
12:08
the copyright owner
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ื‘ืขืœ ื–ื›ื•ื™ื•ืช ื”ื™ื•ืฆืจื™ื
12:10
of this extraordinarily powerful stuff,
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ืฉืœ ื”ื“ื‘ืจ ื”ืžืื•ื“ ื—ื–ืง ื”ื–ื”,
12:13
and not a generation of sharecroppers.
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ื•ืœื ื“ื•ืจ ืฉืœ ืืจื™ืกื™ื.
12:19
Now, I think there are lessons we should learn here,
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ืขื›ืฉื™ื•, ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉื™ืฉ ืœืงื—ื™ื ืฉืื ื—ื ื• ืฆืจื™ื›ื™ื ืœืœืžื•ื“ ืคื”,
12:22
lessons about openness.
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ืœืงื—ื™ื ืขืœ ืคืชื™ื—ื•ืช.
12:24
Our lives are sharing activities,
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ื”ื—ื™ื™ื ืฉืœื ื• ื”ื ืฉื™ืชื•ืฃ ื—ื•ื•ื™ื•ืช,
12:27
at least in part.
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ืœืคื—ื•ืช ื‘ื—ืœืงื.
12:29
Even for the head of Goldman Sachs,
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ืืคื™ืœื• ืœืžื ื”ืœ ื’ื•ืœื“ืžืŸ ืกืืงืก,
12:31
at least in part.
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ืœืคื—ื•ืช ื—ืœืงื™ืช.
12:34
And for that sharing activity to happen, we have to have
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ื•ื›ื“ื™ ืฉืคืขื™ืœื•ืช ื”ืฉื™ืชื•ืฃ ื”ื–ื• ืชืงืจื”, ืื ื—ื ื• ืฆืจื™ื›ื™ื
12:36
well-protected spaces of fair use.
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ืžืจื—ื‘ื™ื ืžื•ื’ื ื™ื ื”ื™ื˜ื‘ ืฉืœ ืฉื™ืžื•ืฉ ื”ื•ื’ืŸ.
12:39
That's number one. Number two:
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ื–ื” ืžืกืคืจ ืื—ืช. ืžืกืคืจ ืฉืชื™ื™ื:
12:41
This ecology of sharing
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ื”ืืงื•ืœื•ื’ื™ื” ื”ื–ื• ืฉืœ ืฉื™ืชื•ืฃ
12:43
needs freedom
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ืฆืจื™ื›ื” ื—ื•ืคืฉ
12:45
within which to create.
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ืœื™ืฆื•ืจ ื‘ืชื•ื›ื•.
12:48
Freedom, which means without permission from anyone,
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ื—ื•ืคืฉ, ืฉืื•ืžืจ ื‘ืœื™ ืจืฉื•ืช ืžืืฃ ืื—ื“,
12:51
the ability to create.
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ื”ื™ื›ื•ืœืช ืœื™ืฆื•ืจ.
12:53
And number three: We need to
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ื•ืฉืœื•ืฉ: ืื ื—ื ื• ืฆืจื™ื›ื™ื
12:55
respect the creator,
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ื›ื‘ื•ื“ ืœื™ื•ืฆืจ,
12:57
the creator of these remixes
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ื”ื™ื•ืฆืจ ืฉืœ ื”ืจืžื™ืงืกื™ื ื”ืืœื”
12:59
through rights that are
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ื“ืจืš ื–ื›ื•ื™ื•ืช ืฉื”ืŸ
13:01
directly tied to them.
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ืžืฉื•ื™ื›ื•ืช ื™ืฉื™ืจื•ืช ืืœื™ื”ื.
13:05
Now, this explains the right-wing nonprofit
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ืขื›ืฉื™ื•, ื–ื” ืžืกื‘ื™ืจ ืืช ื”ืžืœื›"ืจ ื”ื™ืžื ื™
13:08
Creative Commons.
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ืงืจื™ืื˜ื™ื‘ ืงื•ืžื ืก.
13:10
Actually, it's not a right-wing nonprofit,
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ืœืžืขืฉื”, ื–ื” ืœื ืžืœื›"ืจ ื™ืžื ื™,
13:12
but of course -- let me just tie it here --
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ืืœื ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ -- ืชื ื• ืœื™ ืจืง ืœืงืฉืจ ืืช ื–ื” ื›ืืŸ --
13:14
the Creative Commons, which is
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ืงื™ืื˜ื™ื‘ ืงื•ืžื ืก
13:16
offering authors this simple way to mark their content
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ืžืฆื™ืขื” ืœื™ื•ืฆืจื™ื ื“ืจืš ืคืฉื•ื˜ื” ืœืกืžืŸ ืืช ื”ืชื•ื›ืŸ ืฉืœื”ื
13:19
with the freedoms
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ืขื ื”ื—ืจื•ื™ื•ืช
13:21
they intended to carry.
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ืฉื”ื ื”ืชื›ื•ื•ื ื• ืฉื™ืฉืื•.
13:23
So that we go from a "all rights reserved" world
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ื›ืš ืฉื ืขื‘ื•ืจ ืžืขื•ืœื ืฉืœ "ื›ืœ ื”ื–ื›ื•ื™ื•ืช ืฉืžื•ืจื•ืช"
13:25
to a "some rights reserved" world
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ืœืขื•ืœื ืฉืœ "ื—ืœืง ืžื”ื–ื›ื•ื™ื•ืช ืฉืžื•ืจื•ืช"
13:28
so that people can know the freedoms they have attached to the content,
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ื›ืš ืฉืื ืฉื™ื ื™ื•ื›ืœื• ืœื”ื›ื™ืจ ืืช ื”ื–ื›ื•ื™ื•ืช ืฉื”ื ื—ื™ื‘ืจื• ืœืชื•ื›ืŸ,
13:31
building and creating
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ืœื‘ื ื•ืช ืœื™ืฆื•ืจ
13:33
on the basis of this
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ืขืœ ื‘ืกื™ืก ื–ื”
13:35
creative copyrighted work.
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ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ืžื•ื’ื ืช ื–ื›ื•ื™ื•ืช ื™ื•ืฆืจื™ื.
13:37
These tools that we built
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ื”ื›ืœื™ื ื”ืืœื” ืฉื‘ื ื™ื ื•
13:39
enable this sharing in parts
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ืžืืคืฉืจื™ื ืืช ื”ืฉื™ืชื•ืฃ ื”ื–ื” ื‘ื—ืœืงื™ื
13:42
through licenses that make it clear
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ื“ืจืš ืจืฉื™ื•ืŸ ืฉื”ื•ืคืš ืืช ื–ื” ืœื‘ืจื•ืจ
13:44
and a freedom to create
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ื•ื—ื•ืคืฉ ืœื™ืฆื•ืจ
13:46
without requiring permission first
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ื‘ืœื™ ืœื‘ืงืฉ ื–ื›ื•ื™ื•ืช ืงื•ื“ื
13:48
because the permission has already been granted
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ืžืคื ื™ ืฉื”ื”ืจืฉืื” ื›ื‘ืจ ื ื™ืชื ื”
13:50
and a respect for the creator because it builds upon
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ื•ื›ื‘ื•ื“ ื‘ื™ืŸ ื”ื™ื•ืฆืจ ืžืคื ื™ ืฉื”ื™ื ื‘ื•ื ื” ืขืœ
13:53
a copyright the creator
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ื–ื›ื•ื™ื•ืช ื”ื™ื•ืฆืจ
13:55
has licensed freely.
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ืฉื™ื—ืจืจ ืœื—ื•ืคืฉื™.
13:57
And it explains the vast right-wing conspiracy
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ื•ื–ื” ืžืกื‘ื™ืจ ืืช ื”ืงื•ื ืกืคื™ืจืฆื™ื” ื”ื™ืžื ื™ืช ื”ืจื—ื‘ื”
14:00
that's obviously developed around these licenses,
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ืฉื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ ืžืชืคืชื—ืช ืกื‘ื™ื‘ ื”ืจืฉื™ื•ืŸ,
14:03
as now more than 350 million digital objects
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ื›ืš ืฉื™ื•ืชืจ ืž 350 ืžืœื™ื•ืŸ ืื•ื‘ื™ื™ืงื˜ื™ื ื“ื™ื’ื™ื˜ืœื™ื™ื
14:06
are out there, licensed freely
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ื ืžืฆืื™ื ืฉื ื‘ื—ื•ืฅ, ืขื ืจืฉื™ื•ืŸ ื—ื•ืคืฉื™
14:08
in this way.
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ื‘ื“ืจืš ื”ื–ื•.
14:10
Now that picture of an ecology of creativity,
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ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ื”ืชืžื•ื ื” ืฉืœ ื™ืฆื™ืจืชื™ื•ืช ืฉืœ ืืงื•ืœื•ื’ื™ื”,
14:13
the picture of an ecology
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ื”ืชืžื•ื ื” ืฉืœ ืืงื•ืœื•ื’ื™ื”
14:15
of balanced creativity,
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ืฉืœ ื™ืฆื™ืจืชื™ื•ืช ืžืื•ื–ื ืช,
14:17
is that the ecology of creativity we have right now?
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ื”ื™ื ื–ื• ืฉื”ืืงื•ืœื•ื’ื™ื” ืฉืœ ื”ื™ืฆื™ืจืชื™ื•ืช ืฉื™ืฉ ืœื ื• ืขื›ืฉื™ื•?
14:20
Well, as you all know,
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ื•ื‘ื›ืŸ, ื›ืžื• ืฉืืชื ื™ื•ื“ืขื™ื,
14:23
not many of us believe we do.
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ืœื ืจื‘ื™ื ืžืื™ืชื ื• ืžืืžื™ื ื™ื ืฉื–ื” ืžื” ืฉื™ืฉ ืœื ื•.
14:25
I tripped on the reality of this ecology of creativity
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ื ืคืœืชื™ ืขืœ ื”ืžืฆื™ืื•ืช ืฉืœ ื”ืืงื•ืœื•ื’ื™ื” ืฉืœ ื”ื™ืฆื™ืจืชื™ื•ืช
14:28
just last week.
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ืจืง ื‘ืฉื‘ื•ืข ืฉืขื‘ืจ.
14:30
I created a video which was based
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ื™ืฆืจืชื™ ืกืจื˜ื•ืŸ ืฉืžื‘ื•ืกืก
14:32
on a Wireside Chat that I'd given,
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ื‘ื”ืจืฆืื” ื‘ื•ื•ื™ืจืกื™ื™ื“ ืฉื ืชืชื™,
14:34
and I uploaded it to YouTube.
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ื•ื”ืขืœืชื™ ืื•ืชื” ืœื™ื•ื˜ื™ื•ื‘.
14:37
I then got this email from YouTube
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ืื– ืงื™ื‘ืœืชื™ ืืช ื”ืžื™ื™ืœ ื”ื–ื” ืžื™ื•ื˜ื™ื•ื‘
14:39
weirdly notifying me
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ืฉืžื•ื“ื™ืข ืœื™ ื‘ืฆื•ืจื” ืžื•ื–ืจื”
14:41
that there was content in that
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ืฉื”ื™ื” ื‘ื–ื” ืชื•ื›ืŸ
14:43
owned by the mysterious WMG
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ืฉืฉื™ื™ืš ืœ WMG ื”ืžืกืชื•ืจื™
14:46
that matched their content ID.
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ืฉื”ืชืื™ื ืœID ื‘ืชื•ื›ืŸ ืฉืœื”ื.
14:48
So I didn't think much about it.
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ืื– ืœื ืžืžืฉ ื—ืฉื‘ืชื™ ืขืœ ื–ื”.
14:50
And then on Twitter, somebody said to me,
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ื•ืื– ื‘ื˜ื•ื•ื™ื˜ืจ, ืžื™ืฉื”ื• ืืžืจ ืœื™,
14:52
"Your talk on YouTube was DMCA'd. Was that your purpose?"
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"ื”ื”ืจืฆืื” ืฉืœืš ื‘ื™ื•ื˜ื™ื•ื‘ ื ืžื—ืงื” ื‘ื’ืœืœ ื—ื•ืง ื–ื›ื•ื™ื•ืช ื”ื™ื•ืฆืจื™ื, ื–ืืช ื”ื™ืชื” ื”ื›ื•ื•ื ื” ืฉืœืš?"
14:55
imagining that I had this deep conspiracy
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ื“ื™ืžื™ื™ืŸ ืฉื”ื™ืชื” ืœื™ ืืช ื”ืงื•ื ืกืคื™ืจืฆื™ื” ื”ืขืžื•ืงื” ื”ื–ื•
14:57
to reveal the obvious flaws in the DMCA.
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ืœื—ืฉื•ืฃ ืืช ื”ื›ืฉืœื™ื ื”ื‘ืจื•ืจื™ื ื‘ื—ื•ืง.
15:00
I answered, "No." I didn't even think about it.
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ื•ืขื ื™ืชื™, "ืœื." ืืคื™ืœื• ืœื ื—ืฉื‘ืชื™ ืขืœ ื–ื” ืื–.
15:02
But then I went to the site
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ืื‘ืœ ืื– ื’ืœืฉืชื™ ืœืืชืจ
15:05
and all of the audio in my site had been silenced.
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ื•ืื– ื›ืœ ื”ืกืื•ื ื“ ื‘ืืชืจ ืฉืœื™ ื”ื•ืฉืงื˜.
15:09
My whole 45-minute video
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ื›ืœ ื”ื•ื™ื“ืื• ืฉืœื™ ื‘ืŸ ื” 45 ื“ืงื•ืช
15:11
had been silenced
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ื”ื•ืฉืชืง
15:13
because there were snippets in that video,
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ืžืคื ื™ ืฉื”ื™ื• ื—ืœืงื™ื ื‘ื•ื™ื“ืื• ื”ื–ื”,
15:15
a video about fair use,
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ื•ื™ื“ืื• ืขืœ ืฉื™ืžื•ืฉ ื”ื•ื’ืŸ,
15:18
that included Warner Music Group music.
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ืฉื”ื›ื™ืœื• ืžื•ื–ื™ืงื” ืฉืœ ืงื‘ื•ืฆืช ื•ื•ืจื ืจ.
15:21
Now, interestingly,
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ืขื›ืฉื™ื•, ืžืขื ื™ื™ืŸ,
15:23
they still sold ads for that music,
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ื”ื ืขื“ื™ื™ืŸ ืžื›ืจื• ืžื•ื“ืขื•ืช ืœืžื•ื–ื™ืงื” ื”ื–ืืช,
15:25
if you played the silent video.
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ืื ื”ื™ื™ืชื ืžื ื’ื ื™ื ืืช ื”ืกืจื˜ ื”ืžื•ืฉืชืง.
15:27
You could still buy the music,
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ืขื“ื™ื™ืŸ ื”ื™ื™ืชื ื™ื›ื•ืœื™ื ืœืงื ื•ืช ืืช ื”ืžื•ื–ื™ืงื”,
15:29
but you couldn't hear anything
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ืื‘ืœ ืœื ื™ื›ื•ืœืชื ืœืฉืžื•ืข ืฉื•ื ื“ื‘ืจ
15:31
because it had been silenced.
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ืžืคื ื™ ืฉื”ื™ื ื”ื•ืฉืชืงื”.
15:33
So I did what the current regime
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ืื– ืขืฉื™ืชื™ ืžื” ืฉื”ืžืฉื˜ืจ ื”ื ื•ื›ื—ื™
15:35
says I must do
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ืื•ืžืจ ืฉืื ื™ ืฆืจื™ืš ืœืขืฉื•ืช
15:37
to be free to use
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ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ื—ื•ืคืฉื™ ืœื”ืฉืชืžืฉ
15:39
YouTube to talk about fair use.
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ื‘ื™ื•ื˜ื™ื•ื‘ ื›ื“ื™ ืœื“ื‘ืจ ืขืœ ืฉื™ืžื•ืฉ ื—ื•ืคืฉื™.
15:42
I went to this site, and I had to answer these questions.
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ื ื›ื ืกืชื™ ืœืืชืจ, ื•ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืฆืจื™ืš ืœืขื ื•ืช ืขืœ ื”ืฉืืœื•ืช ื”ืืœื”.
15:45
And then in an extraordinarily
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ื•ืื– ื‘ื“ืจืš ืžื•ืคืœืื”
15:47
Bart Simpson-like, juvenile way
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ื›ืžื• ื‘ืืจื˜ ืกื™ืžืคืกื•ืŸ
15:50
you've actually got to type out these words
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ื”ื™ื™ืชื ืฆืจื™ื›ื™ื ืœื”ื“ืคื™ืก ืืช ื”ืžื™ืœื™ื ื”ืืœื•
15:53
and get them right
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ื•ืœื”ืฆืœื™ื—
15:55
to reassert your freedom to speak.
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ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ืฉื™ื‘ ืœืขืฆืžื›ื ืืช ื—ื•ืคืฉ ื”ื“ื™ื‘ื•ืจ.
15:57
And I felt like I was in third grade again.
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ื•ื”ืจื’ืฉืชื™ ื›ืื™ืœื• ืื ื™ ืฉื•ื‘ ื‘ื›ื™ืชื” ื’'.
16:00
"I will not put tacks on the teacher's chair.
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"ืื ื™ ืœื ืืฉื™ื ื ืขืฆื™ื ืขืœ ื”ื›ื™ืกื ืฉืœ ื”ืžื•ืจื”.
16:03
I will not put tacks on the teacher's chair."
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ืื ื™ ืœื ืืฉื™ื ื ืขืฆื™ื ืขืœ ื”ื›ื™ืกื ืฉืœ ื”ืžื•ืจื”."
16:07
This is absurd.
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ื–ื” ืื‘ืกื•ืจื“ื™.
16:09
It is outrageous.
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ื–ื” ืžืงื•ืžื.
16:11
It is an extraordinary perversion of the system of freedom
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ื–ื• ืกื˜ื™ื™ื” ืžื“ื”ื™ืžื” ืžืžืขืจื›ืช ื”ื—ื•ืคืฉ
16:13
we should be encouraging.
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ืฉืื ื—ื ื• ืฆืจื™ื›ื™ื ืœืขื•ื“ื“.
16:15
And the question I ask you is: Who's fighting it?
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ื•ื”ืฉืืœื” ืฉืื ื™ ืฉื•ืืœ ืืชื›ื ื”ื™ื: ืžื™ ื ืœื—ื ื‘ื–ื”?
16:17
Well, interestingly, in the last presidential election,
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ื•ื‘ื›ืŸ, ืžืขื ื™ื™ืŸ ืœืจืื•ืช, ื‘ื‘ื—ื™ืจื•ืช ื”ื ืฉื™ืื•ืชื™ื•ืช ื”ืื—ืจื•ื ื•ืช,
16:20
who was the number one, active
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ืžื™ ื”ื™ื” ื”ืžืชื ื’ื“ ื”ืคืขื™ืœ ืžืกืคืจ ืื—ืช
16:22
opponent of this system of regulation
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ืฉืœ ืžืขืจื›ืช ื”ื”ืกื“ืจื” ื”ื–ืืช
16:25
in online speech?
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ื‘ื ืื•ื ื‘ืจืฉืช?
16:27
John McCain.
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ื’'ื•ืŸ ืžืงื™ื™ืŸ.
16:29
Letter after letter attacking YouTube's refusal
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ืžื›ืชื‘ ืื—ืจื™ ืžื›ืชื‘ ืชื•ืงืฃ ืืช ื”ืกืจื•ื‘ ืฉืœ ื™ื•ื˜ื™ื•ื‘
16:32
to be more respectful of fair use
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ืœื›ื‘ื“ ื™ื•ืชืจ ืืช ื”ืฉื™ืžื•ืฉ ื”ื”ื•ื’ืŸ
16:35
with their extraordinary notice and take down system,
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ืขื ื”ื”ื•ื“ืขื” ื™ื•ืฆืืช ื”ื“ื•ืคืŸ ืฉืœื”ื ื•ืžืขืจื›ืช ื”ื”ื•ืจื“ื” ืฉืœื”ื,
16:37
that led his campaign so many times
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ืฉื”ื•ื‘ื™ืœ ืืช ื”ืงืžืคื™ื™ืŸ ืฉืœื• ื›ืœ ื›ืš ื”ืจื‘ื” ืคืขืžื™ื
16:39
to be thrown off the Internet.
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ืœื”ื™ื–ืจืง ืžื”ืื™ื ื˜ืจื ื˜.
16:42
Now, that was the story of me then,
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ืขื›ืฉื™ื•, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื”ืกื™ืคื•ืจ ืฉืœื™ ืื–,
16:45
my good old days of right-wing lunacy.
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ื”ื™ืžื™ื ื”ื˜ื•ื‘ื™ื ืฉืœ ื˜ืจื•ืฃ ื™ืžื ื™.
16:48
Let me come back to now,
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ืชื ื• ืœื™ ืœื—ื–ื•ืจ ืขื›ืฉื™ื•,
16:50
now when I'm a little leftist --
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ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ื›ืฉืื ื™ ืงืฆืช ืฉืžืืœื ื™ --
16:52
I'm certainly left-handed, so at least a lefty --
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ืื ื™ ื‘ื”ื—ืœื˜ ืฉืžืืœื™, ืื– ืœืคื—ื•ืช ืฉืžืืœื™ --
16:55
And I wonder, can we on the Left
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ืื ื™ ืชื•ื”ื”, ื”ืื ืื ื—ื ื• ื‘ืฉืžืืœ
16:58
expect to build this
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ื™ื›ื•ืœื™ื ืœืฆืคื•ืช ืœื‘ื ื•ืช ืืช
17:01
ecology of freedom, now,
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ื”ืืงื•ืœื•ื’ื™ื” ื”ื–ื• ืฉืœ ื—ื•ืคืฉ, ืขื›ืฉื™ื•,
17:03
in a world where
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ื‘ืขื•ืœื ื‘ื•
17:06
we know the extraordinarily powerful
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ืื ื—ื ื• ื™ื•ื“ืขื™ื ืฉื”ื—ื–ืงื™ื ืœื”ืคืœื™ื
17:08
influences against it,
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ืžืฉืคื™ืขื™ื ื ื’ื“ ื–ื”,
17:10
where even icons of the Left like this
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ื›ืฉืืคื™ืœื• ืื™ื™ืงื•ื ื™ื ืฉืœ ื”ืฉืžืืœ ื›ืžื• ื–ื”
17:13
entertain and push bills
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ืžืขื•ื“ื“ื™ื ื•ื“ื•ื—ืคื™ื ื”ืฆืขื•ืช ื—ื•ืง
17:16
that would effectively ban the requirement
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ืฉื‘ืขื™ืงืจื•ืŸ ื™ืืกืจื• ืขืœ ื”ื“ืจื™ืฉื”
17:19
of open access for government-funded research?
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ืœื’ื™ืฉื” ื—ื•ืคืฉื™ืช ืœืžื—ืงืจ ืžืžืฉืœืชื™?
17:23
The president, who has supported
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ื”ื ืฉื™ื, ืฉืชืžืš
17:26
a process that secretly negotiates agreements,
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ื‘ืชื”ืœื™ืš ืฉืžืชื•ื•ืš ื‘ื—ืฉืื™ ื”ืกื›ืžื™ื,
17:29
which effectively lock us into the insane system
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ืฉื‘ืื•ืคืŸ ืืคืงื˜ื™ื‘ื™ ื›ื•ื‘ืœื™ื ืื•ืชื ื• ืœืžืขืจื›ืช ืžืฉื•ื’ืขืช
17:32
of DMCA
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ืฉืœ ื–ื›ื•ื™ื•ืช ื™ื•ืฆืจื™ื
17:34
that we have adopted
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ืฉืื™ืžืฆื ื•
17:36
and likely lock us down a path of three strikes, you're out
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ื•ื›ื ืจืื” ื’ื ื›ื•ื‘ืœื™ื ืื•ืชื ื• ืœื“ืจืš ืฉืœ ืฉืœื•ืฉ ืคืกื™ืœื•ืช, ืืชื ื‘ื—ื•ืฅ
17:39
that, of course, the rest of the world are increasingly adopting.
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ืฉื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ, ืฉืืจ ื”ืขื•ืœื ืžืืžืฅ.
17:42
Not a single example of reform
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ืื™ืŸ ื“ื•ื’ืžื” ืื—ืช ืฉืœ ืจืคื•ืจืžื”
17:45
has been produced yet.
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ืฉื ื•ืฆืจื” ืขื“ื™ื™ืŸ.
17:49
And we're not going to see this change
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ื•ืื ื—ื ื• ืœื ืขื•ืžื“ื™ื ืœืจืื•ืช ืืช ื–ื” ืžืฉืชื ื”
17:51
in this system
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ื‘ืžืขืจื›ืช
17:53
anytime soon.
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ืžืชื™ืฉื”ื• ื‘ืงืจื•ื‘.
17:55
So here's the lessons of openness
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ืื– ื”ื ื” ื”ืฉื™ืขื•ืจ ื‘ืคืชื™ื—ื•ืช
17:58
that I think we need to learn.
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ืฉืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉืื ื—ื ื• ืฆืจื™ื›ื™ื ืœืœืžื•ื“.
18:01
Openness is a commitment
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ืคืชื™ื—ื•ืช ื”ื™ื ื”ืชื—ื™ื™ื‘ื•ืช
18:03
to a certain set of values.
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ืœืกื˜ ืžืกื•ื™ื™ื ืฉืœ ืขืจื›ื™ื.
18:05
We need to speak of those values.
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ืื ื—ื ื• ืฆืจื™ื›ื™ื ืœื“ื‘ืจ ืขืœ ื”ืขืจื›ื™ื ื”ืืœื”.
18:07
The value of freedom. It's a value of community.
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ื”ืขืจืš ืฉืœ ื—ื•ืคืฉ. ื–ื” ืขืจืš ืฉืœ ื—ื‘ืจื”.
18:10
It's a value of the limits in regulation.
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ื–ื” ืขืจืš ืฉืœ ื’ื‘ื•ืœื•ืช ื‘ื—ืงื™ืงื”.
18:12
It's a value respecting the creator.
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ื–ื” ืขืจืš ืฉืœ ื›ื‘ื•ื“ ืœื™ื•ืฆืจ.
18:16
Now, if we can learn those values
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ืขื›ืฉื™ื•, ืื ื ื•ื›ืœ ืœืœืžื•ื“ ืืช ื”ืขืจื›ื™ื ื”ืืœื”
18:18
from at least some influences on the Right,
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ืžืœืคื—ื•ืช ื›ืžื” ื”ืฉืคืขื•ืช ืขืœ ื”ื™ืžื™ืŸ,
18:20
if we can take them and incorporate them,
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ืื ื ื•ื›ืœ ืœืงื—ืช ืื•ืชื ื•ืœืฉืœื‘ ืื•ืชืŸ,
18:22
maybe we could do a little trade.
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ืื•ืœื™ ื ื•ื›ืœ ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืกื—ืจ ืงื˜ืŸ.
18:24
We learn those values on the Left,
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ืื ื—ื ื• ืœื•ืžื“ื™ื ืืช ื”ืขืจื›ื™ื ื”ืืœื” ื‘ืฉืžืืœ,
18:27
and maybe they'll do health care
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ื•ืื•ืœื™ ื”ื ื™ืขืฉื• ื‘ื™ื˜ื•ื— ื‘ืจื™ืื•ืช
18:29
or global warming legislation or something in the Right.
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ืื• ื—ืงื™ืงื” ื‘ื ื•ืฉื ื”ืชื—ืžืžื•ืช ื’ืœื•ื‘ืœื™ืช ืื• ืžืฉื”ื• ื‘ื™ืžื™ืŸ.
18:31
Anyway, please join me
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ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ, ื‘ื‘ืงืฉื” ื”ืฆื˜ืจืคื• ืืœื™
18:33
in teaching these values.
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ื‘ืœื™ืžื•ื“ ื”ืขืจื›ื™ื ื”ืืœื”.
18:35
Thank you very much.
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ืชื•ื“ื” ืจื‘ื” ืœื›ื.
18:37
(Applause)
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(ืžื—ื™ืื•ืช ื›ืคื™ื™ื)
ืขืœ ืืชืจ ื–ื”

ืืชืจ ื–ื” ื™ืฆื™ื’ ื‘ืคื ื™ื›ื ืกืจื˜ื•ื ื™ YouTube ื”ืžื•ืขื™ืœื™ื ืœืœื™ืžื•ื“ ืื ื’ืœื™ืช. ืชื•ื›ืœื• ืœืจืื•ืช ืฉื™ืขื•ืจื™ ืื ื’ืœื™ืช ื”ืžื•ืขื‘ืจื™ื ืขืœ ื™ื“ื™ ืžื•ืจื™ื ืžื”ืฉื•ืจื” ื”ืจืืฉื•ื ื” ืžืจื—ื‘ื™ ื”ืขื•ืœื. ืœื—ืฅ ืคืขืžื™ื™ื ืขืœ ื”ื›ืชื•ื‘ื™ื•ืช ื‘ืื ื’ืœื™ืช ื”ืžื•ืฆื’ื•ืช ื‘ื›ืœ ื“ืฃ ื•ื™ื“ืื• ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ืคืขื™ืœ ืืช ื”ืกืจื˜ื•ืŸ ืžืฉื. ื”ื›ืชื•ื‘ื™ื•ืช ื’ื•ืœืœื•ืช ื‘ืกื ื›ืจื•ืŸ ืขื ื”ืคืขืœืช ื”ื•ื•ื™ื“ืื•. ืื ื™ืฉ ืœืš ื”ืขืจื•ืช ืื• ื‘ืงืฉื•ืช, ืื ื ืฆื•ืจ ืื™ืชื ื• ืงืฉืจ ื‘ืืžืฆืขื•ืช ื˜ื•ืคืก ื™ืฆื™ืจืช ืงืฉืจ ื–ื”.

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