Jill Sobule & Julia Sweeney: The Jill & Julia Show

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ืื ื ืœื—ืฅ ืคืขืžื™ื™ื ืขืœ ื”ื›ืชื•ื‘ื™ื•ืช ื‘ืื ื’ืœื™ืช ืœืžื˜ื” ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ืคืขื™ืœ ืืช ื”ืกืจื˜ื•ืŸ.

ืžืชืจื’ื: Ido Dekkers ืžื‘ืงืจ: Sigal Tifferet
00:32
โ™ซ Jill Sobule: At a conference in Monterey by the big, big jellyfish tank, โ™ซ
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โ™ซ ื‘ื•ืขื™ื“ื” ื‘ืžื•ื ื˜ืจื™ื™ ืœื™ื“ ืืงื•ื•ืจื™ื•ื ื”ืžื“ื•ื–ื•ืช ื”ื’ื“ื•ืœ, โ™ซ
00:38
โ™ซ I first saw you and I got so shy. โ™ซ
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โ™ซ ืจืื™ืชื™ ืื•ืชืš ืœืจืืฉื•ื ื” ื•ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื‘ื™ืฉื ื™ืช. โ™ซ
00:41
โ™ซ You see, I was a little paranoid 'cause I might have been high. โ™ซ
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โ™ซ ืืช ืžื‘ื™ื ื”, ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืงืฆืช ืคืจื ื•ืื™ื“ื™ืช ืžืคื ื™ ืฉืื•ืœื™ ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืžืกื•ืžืžืช. โ™ซ
00:45
โ™ซ And I hadn't done that in ages and I won't do that again. โ™ซ
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โ™ซ ื•ืœื ืขืฉื™ืชื™ ืืช ื–ื” ืฉื ื™ื ื•ืื ื™ ืœื ืืขืฉื” ื–ืืช ืฉื•ื‘. โ™ซ
00:48
โ™ซ But that's another story. โ™ซ
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โ™ซ ืื‘ืœ ื–ื” ืกื™ืคื•ืจ ืื—ืจ. โ™ซ
00:51
โ™ซ Loved you forever and I've been a big fan, โ™ซ
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โ™ซ ืื”ื‘ืชื™ ืื•ืชืš ืชืžื™ื“ ื•ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืžืขืจื™ืฆื” ื’ื“ื•ืœื”, โ™ซ
00:56
โ™ซ the one-woman shows, I even rented "Pat." โ™ซ
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โ™ซ ืžื•ืคืข ืฉืœ ืื™ืฉื” ืื—ืช, ืืคื™ืœื• ืฉื›ืจืชื™ ืืช "ืคื˜." โ™ซ
00:59
โ™ซ I got enough nerve to come up to you, โ™ซ
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โ™ซ ืงื™ื‘ืœืชื™ ืžืกืคื™ืง ืื•ืžืฅ ื›ื“ื™ ืœื’ืฉืช ืืœื™ืš, โ™ซ
01:03
โ™ซ but little did I know one year later we'd be doing this show. โ™ซ
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โ™ซ ืื‘ืœ ืœื ื™ื“ืขืชื™ ืฉืฉื ื” ืื—ืจื™ ื ืขืฉื” ืืช ื”ืžื•ืคืข ื‘ื™ื—ื“. โ™ซ
01:08
โ™ซ I sing. Julia Sweeney: I tell stories. Together: The Jill and Julia Show. โ™ซ
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โ™ซ ืื ื™ ืฉืจื”. ื’'ื•ืœื™ื” ืกื•ื•ื™ื ื™: ืื ื™ ืžืกืคืจืช ืกื™ืคื•ืจื™ื. ื‘ื™ื—ื“: ื”ืžื•ืคืข ืฉืœ ื’'ื™ืœ ื•ื’'ื•ืœื™ื”. โ™ซ
01:15
โ™ซ Sobule: Sometimes it works. Sweeney: Sometimes it doesn't. โ™ซ
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โ™ซ ืกื•ื‘ื•ืœ: ืœืคืขืžื™ื ื–ื” ืขื•ื‘ื“. ืกื•ื•ื™ื ื™: ืœืคืขืžื™ื ื–ื” ืœื. โ™ซ
01:18
โ™ซ Together: The Jill and Julia Show. โ™ซ
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โ™ซ ื‘ื™ื—ื“: ื”ืžื•ืคืข ืฉืœ ื’'ื™ืœ ื•ื’'ื•ืœื™ื”. โ™ซ
01:22
โ™ซ Sweeney: At a conference in Monterey next to the big, big jellyfish tank, โ™ซ
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โ™ซ ืกื•ื•ื™ื ื™: ื‘ื•ืขื™ื“ื” ื‘ืžื•ื ื˜ืจื™ื™ ืœื™ื“ ืืงื•ื•ืจื™ื•ื ื”ืžื“ื•ื–ื•ืช ื”ื’ื“ื•ืœ, โ™ซ
01:29
โ™ซ I first saw you and I wasn't so shy. โ™ซ
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โ™ซ ืจืื™ืชื™ ืื•ืชืš ืœืจืืฉื•ื ื” ื•ืœื ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื›ืœ ื›ืš ื‘ื™ื™ืฉื ื™ืช. โ™ซ
01:33
I made a beeline for you and told you what a huge fan I was
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ื”ืœื›ืชื™ ื™ืฉืจ ืืœื™ืš ื•ืืžืจืชื™ ืœืš ืื™ื–ื” ืžืขืจื™ืฆื” ื’ื“ื•ืœื” ืื ื™.
01:37
ever since I was writing that pilot for Fox, and Wendy
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ืžืื– ื›ืชื‘ืชื™ ืืช ื”ืคื™ื™ืœื•ื˜ ื”ื”ื•ื ืœืคื•ืงืก, ื•ื•ื•ื ื“ื™
01:40
and I wanted you to do the theme song.
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ื•ืื ื™ ืจืฆื™ื ื• ืฉืืช ืชืขืฉื™ ืืช ืฉื™ืจ ื”ืคืชื™ื—ื”.
01:41
And then the pilot didn't go and I was so sad,
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ื•ืื– ื”ืคื™ื™ืœื•ื˜ ืœื ื™ืฆื ื•ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื›ืœ ื›ืš ืขืฆื•ื‘ื”,
01:43
but I kept remaining a fan of yours.
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ืื‘ืœ ื ืฉืืจืชื™ ืžืขืจื™ืฆื” ืฉืœืš.
01:44
And then when I went through that big, horrible breakup with Carl
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ื•ืื–, ื›ืฉืขื‘ืจืชื™ ืืช ื”ืคืจื™ื“ื” ื”ื’ื“ื•ืœื”, ื”ื ื•ืจืื™ืช ืžืงืืจืœ
01:48
and I couldn't get off the couch, I listened to your song,
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ื•ืœื ื™ื›ื•ืœืชื™ ืœืงื•ื ืžื”ืกืคื”, ื”ืงืฉื‘ืชื™ ืœืฉื™ืจื™ื ืฉืœืš,
01:50
โ™ซ "Now That I Don't Have You," โ™ซ over and over and over and over again.
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โ™ซ "ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ื›ืฉืื™ืŸ ืœื™ ืื•ืชืš" โ™ซ ืฉื•ื‘ ื•ืฉื•ื‘ ื•ืฉื•ื‘.
01:54
And I can't believe you're here and that I'm meeting you here at TED.
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ื•ืื ื™ ืœื ืžืืžื™ื ื” ืฉืืช ื›ืืŸ ื•ืื ื™ ืคื•ื’ืฉืช ืื•ืชืš ืคื” ื‘TED.
01:57
And also, I can't believe that we're eating sushi
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ื•ื’ื, ืื ื™ ืœื ืžืืžื™ื ื” ืฉืื ื—ื ื• ืื•ื›ืœื•ืช ืกื•ืฉื™
02:00
in front of the fish tank,
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ืœืคื ื™ ืืงื•ื•ืจื™ื•ื ื”ื“ื’ื™ื,
02:01
which, personally, I think is really inappropriate.
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ืฉืื™ืฉื™ืช ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ืช ืฉืžืžืฉ ืœื ื™ืื”.
02:03
(Laughter)
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(ืฆื—ื•ืง)
02:05
(Applause)
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(ืžื—ื™ืื•ืช ื›ืคื™ื™ื)
02:06
And little did I know that one year later ... โ™ซ we'd be doing this show. โ™ซ
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ื•ืœื ื™ื“ืขืชื™ ืฉืฉื ื” ืœืื—ืจ ืžื›ืŸ.... โ™ซ ื ืขืฉื” ืืช ื”ื”ื•ืคืขื” ื”ื–ื•. โ™ซ
02:10
โ™ซ Sobule: I sing. Sweeney: I tell stories. Together: The Jill and Julia Show. โ™ซ
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โ™ซ ืกื•ื‘ื•ืœ: ืื ื™ ืฉืจื”. ืกื•ื•ื™ื ื™: ืื ื™ ืžืกืคืจืช ืกื™ืคื•ืจื™ื. ื‘ื™ื—ื“: ื”ืžื•ืคืข ืฉืœ ื’'ื™ืœ ื•ื’'ื•ืœื™ื”. โ™ซ
02:16
Sobule: Hey, they asked us back! Sweeney: Can you stand it?!
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ืกื•ื‘ื•ืœ: ื”ื™ื™, ื”ื ื‘ื™ืงืฉื• ืฉื ื—ื–ื•ืจ! ืกื•ื•ื ื™: ืืช ื™ื›ื•ืœื” ืœืขืžื•ื“ ื‘ื–ื”?
02:20
โ™ซ Together: The Jill and Julia, the Jill and Julia, the Jill and Julia Show. โ™ซ
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โ™ซ ื‘ื™ื—ื“: ื”ืžื•ืคืข ืฉืœ ื’'ื™ืœ ื•ื’'ื•ืœื™ื”, ืฉืœ ื’'ื™ืœ ื•ื’'ื•ืœื™ื”, ืฉืœ ื’'ื™ืœ ื•ื’'ื•ืœื™ื”. โ™ซ
02:26
โ™ซ Sobule: Why are all our heroes so imperfect? โ™ซ
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โ™ซ ืกื•ื‘ื•ืœ: ืœืžื” ื›ืœ ื”ื’ื™ื‘ื•ืจื™ื ืฉืœื ื• ื›ืœ ื›ืš ืœื ืžื•ืฉืœืžื™ื? โ™ซ
02:34
โ™ซ Why do they always bring me down? โ™ซ
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โ™ซ ืœืžื” ื”ื ืชืžื™ื“ ืžื“ื›ืื™ื ืื•ืชื™? โ™ซ
02:40
โ™ซ Why are all our heroes so imperfect? โ™ซ
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โ™ซ ืœืžื” ื›ืœ ื”ื’ื™ื‘ื•ืจื™ื ืฉืœื ื• ื›ืœ ื›ืš ืœื ืžื•ืฉืœืžื™ื? โ™ซ
02:45
โ™ซ Statue in the park has lost his crown. โ™ซ
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โ™ซ ื”ืคืกืœ ื‘ืคืืจืง ืื™ื‘ื“ ืืช ื”ื›ืชืจ ืฉืœื•. โ™ซ
02:50
โ™ซ William Faulkner, drunk and depressed. โ™ซ Sweeney: Mmm.
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โ™ซ ื•ื•ื™ืœื™ืื ืคืืœืงื ืจ, ืฉื™ื›ื•ืจ ื•ืžื“ื•ื›ื. โ™ซ
02:53
โ™ซ Dorothy Parker, mean, drunk and depressed. โ™ซ Sweeney: I know.
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โ™ซ ื“ื•ืจื•ืชื™ ืคืจืงืจ ืจืขื”, ืฉื™ื›ื•ืจื” ื•ืžื“ื•ื›ืืช. โ™ซ
02:56
โ™ซ And that guy, "Seven Years in Tibet," turned out to be a Nazi. โ™ซ Sweeney: Yeah.
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โ™ซ ื•ื”ื‘ื—ื•ืจ ื”ื”ื•ื, ืฉื‘ืข ืฉื ื™ื ื‘ื˜ื™ื‘ื˜, ื‘ืกื•ืฃ ื”ื™ื” ื ืืฆื™. โ™ซ
03:01
โ™ซ Founding fathers all had slaves. โ™ซ Sweeney: I know.
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โ™ซ ืœื›ืœ ื”ืื‘ื•ืช ื”ืžื™ื™ืกื“ื™ื ื”ื™ื• ืขื‘ื“ื™ื. โ™ซ
03:03
โ™ซ The explorers slaughtered the braves. โ™ซ Sweeney: Horribly.
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โ™ซ ื”ืžื’ืœื™ื ืฉื—ื˜ื• ืืช ื”ืืžื™ืฆื™ื. โ™ซ ืกื•ื•ื™ื ื™:ื‘ืฆื•ืจื” ื ื•ืจืื™ืช.
03:06
โ™ซ Sobule: The Old Testament God can be so petty. โ™ซ
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โ™ซ ืกื•ื‘ื•ืœ: ืืœื•ื”ื™ื ืฉืœ ื”ืชื ืš ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ื›ืœ ื›ืš ืงื˜ื ื•ื ื™. โ™ซ
03:10
Sweeney: Don't get me started on that. (Laughter)
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ืกื•ื•ื™ื ื™: ืืœ ืชืชื ื™ ืœื™ ืœื”ืชื—ื™ืœ ืขืœ ื–ื”.
03:12
โ™ซ Sobule: Paul McCartney, jealous of John, even more so now that he's gone. โ™ซ
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โ™ซ ืกื•ื‘ื•ืœ: ืคื•ืœ ืžืงืืจื˜ื ื™ ืžืงื ื ื‘ื’'ื•ืŸ, ืืคื™ืœื• ื™ื•ืชืจ ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ื›ืฉื”ื•ื ืื™ื ื ื•. โ™ซ
03:16
โ™ซ Dylan was so mean to Donovan in that movie. โ™ซ
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โ™ซ ื“ื™ืœืŸ ื”ื™ื” ื›ืœ ื›ืš ืจืข ืœื“ื•ื ื•ื‘ืŸ ื‘ืกืจื˜ ื”ื”ื•ื. โ™ซ
03:21
โ™ซ Pablo Picasso, cruel to his wives. โ™ซ Sweeney: Horrible.
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โ™ซ ืคืื‘ืœื• ืคื™ืงืกื•, ืื›ื–ืจื™ ืœื ืฉื•ืชื™ื•. โ™ซ ืกื•ื•ื™ื ื™: ื ื•ืจื.
03:24
โ™ซ Sobule: My favorite poets took their own lives. โ™ซ
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โ™ซ ืกื•ื‘ื•ืœ:ื”ืžืฉื•ืจืจื™ื ื”ืื”ื•ื‘ื™ื ืขืœื™ ื”ืชืื‘ื“ื•. โ™ซ
03:26
โ™ซ Orson Welles peaked at twenty-five, below before our eyes. โ™ซ
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โ™ซ ืื•ืจืกื•ืŸ ื•ื•ื™ืœืก ื”ื’ื™ืข ืœืฉื™ื ื‘ื’ื™ืœ 25, ื•ืฉืงืข ืžื•ืœ ืขื™ื ื™ื™ื ื•. โ™ซ
03:31
โ™ซ And he sold bad wine. โ™ซ
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โ™ซ ื•ื”ื•ื ืžื›ืจ ื™ื™ืŸ ื’ืจื•ืข. โ™ซ
03:33
โ™ซ Together: Why are all our heroes so imperfect? Yeah โ™ซ
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โ™ซ ื‘ื™ื—ื“: ืœืžื” ื›ืœ ื”ื’ื™ื‘ื•ืจื™ื ื›ืœ ื›ืš ืœื ืžื•ืฉืœืžื™ื, ื›ืŸ? โ™ซ
03:38
โ™ซ Why do they always bring me down? โ™ซ
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โ™ซ ืœืžื” ื”ื ืชืžื™ื“ ืžื“ื›ืื™ื ืื•ืชื™? โ™ซ
03:43
โ™ซ Sobule: Heard Babe Ruth was full of malice. โ™ซ Sweeney: Oh.
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โ™ซ ืกื•ื‘ื•ืœ: ืฉืžืขืชื™ ืฉื‘ื™ื™ื‘ ืจื•ืช ื”ื™ื” ืžืœื ืจืฉืขื•ืช. โ™ซ
03:46
โ™ซ Lewis Carroll I'm sure did Alice. โ™ซ Sweeney: What?!
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โ™ซ ืœื•ืื™ืก ืงืจื•ืœ ืื ื™ ื‘ื˜ื•ื—ื” ืฉืฉื›ื‘ ืขื ืืœื™ืก. โ™ซ
03:48
โ™ซ Plato in the cave with those very young boys. โ™ซ Sweeney: Ooh...
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โ™ซ ืืคืœื˜ื•ืŸ ื‘ืžืขืจื” ืขื ื”ื ืขืจื™ื ื”ืฆืขื™ืจื™ื. โ™ซ ืกื•ื•ื™ื ื™:ืื•ื•ื•...
03:53
โ™ซ Sobule: Hillary supported the war. โ™ซ
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โ™ซ ืกื•ื‘ื•ืœ: ื”ื™ืœืืจื™ ืชืžื›ื” ื‘ืžืœื—ืžื”. โ™ซ
03:56
โ™ซ Sweeney: Even Thomas Friedman supported the war. โ™ซ (Laughter)
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โ™ซ ืกื•ื•ื™ื ื™: ืืคื™ืœื• ืชื•ืžืก ืคืจื™ื“ืžืŸ ืชืžืš ื‘ืžืœื—ืžื”. โ™ซ
03:59
โ™ซ Sobule: Colin Powell turned out to be ... Together: ... such a pussy. โ™ซ (Laughter) (Applause)
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โ™ซ ืกื•ื‘ื•ืœ: ืงื•ืœื™ืŸ ืคืื•ื•ืœ ื™ืฆื ื‘ืกื•ืฃ -- ื‘ื™ื—ื“: -- ื›ื–ื” ื ืงื‘ื”. โ™ซ
04:04
โ™ซ Sobule: William Faulkner, drunk and depressed, โ™ซ
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โ™ซ ืกื•ื‘ื•ืœ: ื•ื•ื™ืœื™ืื ืคืื•ืœืงื ืจ, ืฉื™ื›ื•ืจ ื•ืžื“ื•ื›ื, โ™ซ
04:06
โ™ซ Tennessee Williams, drunk and depressed. โ™ซ Sweeney: Yeah.
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โ™ซ ื˜ื ืกื™ ื•ื•ื™ืœื™ืื, ืฉื™ื›ื•ืจ ื•ืžื“ื•ื›ื. โ™ซ
04:08
โ™ซ Sobule: Take it, Julia. โ™ซ
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ืกื•ื‘ื•ืœ: ืืช ืžืคื”, ื’'ื•ืœื™ื”.
04:10
Sweeney: Okay. Oprah was never necessarily a big hero of mine.
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ืกื•ื•ื™ื ื™: ืื•ืงื™ื™, ืื•ืคืจื” ืืฃ ืœื ื”ื™ืชื” ื’ื™ื‘ื•ืจื” ื’ื“ื•ืœื” ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœื™.
04:14
I mean, I watch Oprah mostly when I'm home in Spokane
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ืื ื™ ืžืชื›ื•ื•ื ืช, ืื ื™ ืฆื•ืคื” ื‘ืื•ืคืจื” ื‘ืขื™ืงืจ ื›ืฉืื ื™ ื‘ื‘ื™ืช ื‘ืกืคื•ืงื™ื™ืŸ
04:17
visiting my mother. And to my mother,
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ืžื‘ืงืจืช ืืช ืื™ืžื™. ื•ืœืื™ืžื™,
04:19
Oprah is a greater moral authority than the Pope,
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ืื•ืคืจื” ื”ื™ื ืกืžื›ื•ืช ืžื•ืจืืœื™ืช ื’ื“ื•ืœื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžื”ืืคื™ืคื™ื•ืจ,
04:21
which is actually saying something because she's a devout Catholic.
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ืฉื–ื” ื‘ืืžืช ืื•ืžืจ ืžืฉื”ื•ื ื›ื™ ื”ื™ื ืงืชื•ืœื™ืช ืื“ื•ืงื”.
04:24
Anyway, I like Oprah -- I like her girlfriendy-ness,
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ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ, ืื ื™ ืื•ื”ื‘ืช ืืช ืื•ืคืจื”. ืื ื™ ืื•ื”ื‘ืช ืืช ื”ื—ื‘ืจื™ื•ืช ืฉืœื”.
04:27
I like her weight issues,
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ืื ื™ ืื•ื”ื‘ืช ืืช ื‘ืขื™ื•ืช ื”ืžืฉืงืœ ืฉืœื”.
04:29
I like how she's transformed talk television,
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ืื ื™ ืื•ื”ื‘ืช ืื™ืš ื”ื™ื ื”ืคื›ื” ืชื•ื›ื ื™ื•ืช ื“ื™ื‘ื•ืจ ื‘ื˜ืœื•ื™ื–ื™ื”.
04:31
I like how she's brought reading back to America --
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ืื ื™ ืื•ื”ื‘ืช ืื™ืš ืฉื”ื™ื ื”ื—ื–ื™ืจื” ืืช ื”ืงืจื™ืื” ืœืืžืจื™ืงื”.
04:34
but there was something that happened the last two weeks
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ืื‘ืœ ื™ืฉ ืžืฉื”ื• ืฉืงืจื” ื‘ืฉื‘ื•ืขื™ื™ื ื”ืื—ืจื•ื ื™ื
04:36
that was ... I call it the Soon-Yi moment:
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ืฉื”ื™ื” - ืื ื™ ืงื•ืจืืช ืœื–ื” ืจื’ืข ืกื•ืŸ-ื™ื™.
04:39
it is the moment when I cannot continue supporting someone.
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ื–ื” ื”ืจื’ืข ื‘ื• ืื ื™ ืœื ื™ื›ื•ืœื” ืœืชืžื•ืš ื™ื•ืชืจ ื‘ืžื™ืฉื”ื•.
04:44
And that was that she did two entire shows
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ื•ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื›ืฉื”ื™ื ืงื™ื“ืžื” ื‘ืžืฉืš ืฉืชื™ ืชื•ื›ื ื™ื•ืช
04:48
promoting that movie "The Secret."
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ืืช ื”ืกืจื˜ "ื”ืกื•ื“."
04:50
Do you guys know about that movie "The Secret"?
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ื™ื“ืขืชื ืขืœ ื”ืกืจื˜ ื”ื–ื” "ื”ืกื•ื“"?
04:52
It makes "What the Bleep Do We Know" seem like a doctoral dissertation
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ื”ื•ื ื”ื•ืคืš ืืช "ืžื” ืœื‘ืœื™ืค ืื ื—ื ื• ื™ื•ื“ืขื™ื" ืœื”ืจืื•ืช ื›ืžื• ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ื“ื•ืงื˜ื•ืจื ื˜ื™ืช
04:57
from Harvard on quantum mechanics -- that's how bad it is.
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ืžื”ืจื•ื•ืจื“ ืขืœ ืžื›ื ื™ืงื” ืงื•ื•ื ื˜ื™ืช -- ื–ื” ื›ืžื” ืจืข ื”ื•ื.
05:00
It makes "The DaVinci Code" seem like "War and Peace."
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ื”ื•ื ื’ื•ืจื ืœ"ืงื•ื“ ื“ื”-ื•ื™ื ืฆ'ื™" ืœื”ืจืื•ืช ื›ืžื• ืžืœื—ืžื” ื•ืฉืœื•ื.
05:04
That movie is so horrible. It promotes such awful pseudoscience.
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ื”ืกืจื˜ ื›ืœ ื›ืš ืจืข. ื”ื•ื ืžืงื“ื ืคืกื•ืื•ื“ื•-ืžื“ืข ื›ืœ ื›ืš ื ื•ืจืื™.
05:09
And the basic idea is
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ื•ื”ืจืขื™ื•ืŸ ื”ื‘ืกื™ืกื™ ื”ื•ื
05:10
that there's this law of attraction, and
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ืฉื™ืฉ ืžื™ืŸ "ื—ื•ืง ืžืฉื™ื›ื”,"
05:13
your thoughts have this vibrating energy
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ื•ืœืžื—ืฉื‘ื•ืช ืฉืœื›ื ื™ืฉ ืžื™ืŸ ืื ืจื’ื™ื” ืจื•ื˜ื˜ืช
05:15
that goes out into the universe
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ืฉื™ื•ืฆืืช ืืœ ื”ื™ืงื•ื
05:16
and then you attract good things to happen to you.
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ื•ืื– ืืชื ืžื•ืฉื›ื™ื ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื˜ื•ื‘ื™ื ืฉื™ืงืจื• ืœื›ื.
05:18
On a scientific basis, it's more than just "Power of Positive Thinking" --
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ืขืœ ื‘ืกื™ืก ืžื“ืขื™, ื–ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžืกืชื "ื›ื•ื— ืฉืœ ืžื—ืฉื‘ื” ื—ื™ื•ื‘ื™ืช" --
05:22
it has a horrible, horrible dark side. Like if you get ill,
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ื™ืฉ ืœื• ืฆื“ ืฉื—ื•ืจ ื ื•ืจืื™. ืœืžืฉืœ ืื ืืชื ื—ื•ืœื™ื,
05:27
it's because you've just been thinking negative thoughts.
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ื–ื” ื‘ื’ืœืœ ืฉื—ืฉื‘ืชื ืžื—ืฉื‘ื•ืช ืฉืœื™ืœื™ื•ืช.
05:29
Yeah, stuff like that was in the movie and she's promoting it.
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ื›ืŸ, ื”ื™ื• ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื›ืืœื” ื‘ืกืจื˜. ื•ื”ื™ื ืžืงื“ืžืช ืื•ืชื•.
05:32
And all I'm saying is that I really wish that Murray Gell-Mann
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ื•ื›ืœ ืžื” ืฉืื ื™ ืื•ืžืจืช ื–ื” ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืžืžืฉ ืžืงื•ื•ื” ืฉืžื•ืจื™ ื’ืœ-ืžืŸ
05:35
would go on Oprah
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ื™ื•ืคื™ืข ื‘ืื•ืคืจื”
05:36
and just explain to her that the law of attraction is, in fact, not a law.
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ื•ื™ืกื‘ื™ืจ ืœื” ืฉ"ื—ื•ืง ื”ืžืฉื™ื›ื”" ื”ื•ื, ื‘ืขืฆื, ืœื ื—ื•ืง.
05:41
So that's what I have to say.
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ืื– ื–ื” ืžื” ืฉื™ืฉ ืœื™ ืœื”ื’ื™ื“.
05:43
(Laughter)
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(ืฆื—ื•ืง)
05:45
(Applause)
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(ืžื—ื™ืื•ืช ื›ืคื™ื™ื)
05:51
โ™ซ Sobule: I sing. Sweeney: I tell stories. Together: The Jill and Julia Show. โ™ซ
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โ™ซ ืกื•ื‘ื•ืœ: ืื ื™ ืฉืจื”. ืกื•ื•ื™ื ื™: ืื ื™ ืžืกืคืจืช ืกื™ืคื•ืจื™ื. ื‘ื™ื—ื“: ื”ืžื•ืคืข ืฉืœ ื’'ื™ืœ ื•ื’'ื•ืœื™ื”. โ™ซ
05:57
โ™ซ Sobule: Sometimes it works. Sweeney: Sometimes it doesn't. โ™ซ
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โ™ซ ืกื•ื‘ื•ืœ: ืœืคืขืžื™ื ื–ื” ืขื•ื‘ื“. ืกื•ื•ื™ื ื™: ืœืคืขืžื™ื ื–ื” ืœื. โ™ซ
06:02
โ™ซ Together: The Jill and Julia, the Jill and Julia, the Jill and Julia Show. โ™ซ
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โ™ซ ื‘ื™ื—ื“: ื”ืžื•ืคืข ืฉืœ ื’'ื™ืœ ื•ื’'ื•ืœื™ื”, ืฉืœ ื’'ื™ืœ ื•ื’'ื•ืœื™ื”, ืฉืœ ื’'ื™ืœ ื•ื’'ื•ืœื™ื”. โ™ซ
06:10
(Applause)
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(ืžื—ื™ืื•ืช ื›ืคื™ื™ื)
ืขืœ ืืชืจ ื–ื”

ืืชืจ ื–ื” ื™ืฆื™ื’ ื‘ืคื ื™ื›ื ืกืจื˜ื•ื ื™ YouTube ื”ืžื•ืขื™ืœื™ื ืœืœื™ืžื•ื“ ืื ื’ืœื™ืช. ืชื•ื›ืœื• ืœืจืื•ืช ืฉื™ืขื•ืจื™ ืื ื’ืœื™ืช ื”ืžื•ืขื‘ืจื™ื ืขืœ ื™ื“ื™ ืžื•ืจื™ื ืžื”ืฉื•ืจื” ื”ืจืืฉื•ื ื” ืžืจื—ื‘ื™ ื”ืขื•ืœื. ืœื—ืฅ ืคืขืžื™ื™ื ืขืœ ื”ื›ืชื•ื‘ื™ื•ืช ื‘ืื ื’ืœื™ืช ื”ืžื•ืฆื’ื•ืช ื‘ื›ืœ ื“ืฃ ื•ื™ื“ืื• ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ืคืขื™ืœ ืืช ื”ืกืจื˜ื•ืŸ ืžืฉื. ื”ื›ืชื•ื‘ื™ื•ืช ื’ื•ืœืœื•ืช ื‘ืกื ื›ืจื•ืŸ ืขื ื”ืคืขืœืช ื”ื•ื•ื™ื“ืื•. ืื ื™ืฉ ืœืš ื”ืขืจื•ืช ืื• ื‘ืงืฉื•ืช, ืื ื ืฆื•ืจ ืื™ืชื ื• ืงืฉืจ ื‘ืืžืฆืขื•ืช ื˜ื•ืคืก ื™ืฆื™ืจืช ืงืฉืจ ื–ื”.

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