Let's get honest about our money problems | Tammy Lally

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ืื ื ืœื—ืฅ ืคืขืžื™ื™ื ืขืœ ื”ื›ืชื•ื‘ื™ื•ืช ื‘ืื ื’ืœื™ืช ืœืžื˜ื” ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ืคืขื™ืœ ืืช ื”ืกืจื˜ื•ืŸ.

ืชืจื’ื•ื: Shai Hakim ืขืจื™ื›ื”: Ido Dekkers
00:12
Have you every had to break your family's rules?
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ื”ืื ื ืืœืฆืชื ืœื”ืคืจ ืื™ ืคืขื ืืช ื—ื•ืงื™ ื”ืžืฉืคื—ื” ืฉืœื›ื?
00:16
Today, I'm breaking mine,
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ื”ื™ื•ื ืื ื™ ืžืคืจื” ืืช ืฉืœื™,
00:18
around money, secrecy and shame.
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ื‘ื ื•ื’ืข ืœื›ืกืฃ, ืกื•ื“ื™ื•ืช ื•ื‘ื•ืฉื”.
00:23
In 2006, on my brother Keith's 40th birthday, he called.
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ื‘ 2006 ื‘ื™ื•ื ื”ื”ื•ืœื“ืช ื”ืืจื‘ืขื™ื ืฉืœ ืื—ื™ ืงื™ืช', ื”ื•ื ื”ืชืงืฉืจ.
00:29
"Tam, I'm in dire straits.
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"ืชืž', ืื ื™ ื‘ืฆืจื•ืช ืฆืจื•ืจื•ืช"
00:32
I wouldn't ask unless I had to.
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"... ืœื ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืžื‘ืงืฉ ืื ืœื ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื—ื™ื™ื‘."
00:36
Can I borrow 7,500 dollars?"
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"ืื ื™ ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœืงื‘ืœ ื”ืœื•ื•ืื” ืฉืœ 7,500 ื“ื•ืœืจ?"
00:40
This wasn't the first time he needed quick cash,
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ื–ื• ืœื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื”ืคืขื ื”ืจืืฉื•ื ื” ืฉื‘ื” ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืฆืจื™ืš ื”ืœื•ื•ืื” ืžื”ื™ืจื”,
00:43
but this time, his voice frightened me.
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ืื‘ืœ ื”ืคืขื, ื”ืงื•ืœ ืฉืœื• ื”ืคื—ื™ื“ ืื•ืชื™.
00:47
I had never heard him so beaten down and shameful,
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ืžืขื•ืœื ืœื ืฉืžืขืชื™ ืื•ืชื• ื›ืœ ื›ืš ืžื•ืฉืคืœ ื•ืžื‘ื•ื™ื™ืฉ,
00:54
and it was on his 40th birthday.
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ื•ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื™ื•ื ื”ื”ื•ืœื“ืช ื”ืืจื‘ืขื™ื ืฉืœื•.
01:01
After a few basic questions that we would all ask,
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ืื—ืจื™ ื›ืžื” ืฉืืœื•ืช ื‘ืกื™ืกื™ื•ืช ืฉื›ืœ ืื—ื“ ื”ื™ื” ืฉื•ืืœ,
01:05
I agreed to loan him the money, but under one condition:
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ื”ืกื›ืžืชื™ ืœื”ืœื•ื•ืช ืœื• ืืช ื”ื›ืกืฃ, ืื‘ืœ ื‘ืชื ืื™ ืื—ื“:
01:10
that as the financial professional in the family,
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ื›ืืฉืช ื”ืžืงืฆื•ืข ื”ื›ืœื›ืœื™ืช ื‘ืžืฉืคื—ื”,
01:12
I wanted to meet with him and his wife
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ืจืฆื™ืชื™ ืœืคื’ื•ืฉ ืื•ืชื• ื•ืืช ืืฉืชื•
01:14
to see what was really happening.
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ืœื”ื‘ื™ืŸ ืžื” ื‘ืืžืช ืงื•ืจื”.
01:17
Weeks later, we met at the local Starbucks,
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ื›ืžื” ืฉื‘ื•ืขื•ืช ืื—ืจื™, ื ืคื’ืฉื ื• ื‘ืกื ื™ืฃ ื”ืกื˜ืืจื‘ืงืก ื”ืžืงื•ืžื™,
01:21
and I started right in with the tough-love budget conversation.
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ื•ืื ื™ ื™ืฉืจ ื”ืชื—ืœืชื™ ื‘ืฉื™ื—ืช ื”ืชืงืฆื™ื‘ ื”ืงืฉื•ื—ื”-ืจื’ื™ืฉื”.
01:26
"You should sell the house, downsize to something you can afford,
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"ืืชื” ืฆืจื™ืš ืœืžื›ื•ืจ ืืช ื”ื‘ื™ืช, ืœื”ืฆื˜ืžืฆื ืœืžืฉื”ื• ืฉืืชื” ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœื”ืจืฉื•ืช ืœืขืฆืžืš,
01:30
sell the toys.
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ืชืžื›ื•ืจ ืืช ื”"ืฆืขืฆื•ืขื™ื".
01:32
And Starbucks?
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ื•ืกื˜ืจื‘ืงืก ... ?
01:34
Give up the five-dollar-a-day coffee."
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ืชื•ื•ืชืจ ืขืœ ื”ืงืคื” ื”ื™ื•ืžื™ ื‘ื—ืžื™ืฉื” ื“ื•ืœืจ.
01:37
You know, all the trappings that we do to keep up with the Joneses.
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ืืชื ื™ื•ื“ืขื™ื, ื›ืœ ื”ืกืžืžื ื™ื ืฉืื ื—ื ื• ืžื˜ืคื—ื™ื ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ืจืื•ืช ื˜ื•ื‘ ืœื™ื“ ื”ืฉื›ื ื™ื.
01:42
Quickly, my brother and his wife went into a fearsome blame game,
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ืœื ืขื‘ืจ ื–ืžืŸ ืขื“ ืฉืื—ื™ ื•ืื™ืฉืชื• ืขื‘ืจื• ืœื”ื˜ื—ืช ื”ืืฉืžื•ืช ื”ื“ื“ื™ื•ืช,
01:47
and it got messy.
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ื•ื–ื” ื”ืคืš ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืžื’ืขื™ืœ.
01:49
I vacillated between therapist and pissed-off sister.
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ื”ืชืœื‘ื˜ืชื™ ื‘ื™ืŸ ืชืคืงื™ื“ ื”ืžื˜ืคืœืช ืœืชืคืงื™ื“ ื”ืื—ื•ืช ื”ื–ื•ืขืžืช.
01:56
I wanted them to be better than this.
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ืฆื™ืคื™ืชื™ ืฉื”ื ื™ืชืขืœื• ืžืขืœ ื–ื”.
01:58
"Come on, you two. Get your shit together.
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"ื‘ื•ืื•, ืชืชืืคืกื• ืขืœ ืขืฆืžื›ื."
02:02
You're parents.
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"ืืชื ื”ื•ืจื™ื."
02:03
Grow up and buck up."
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"ืชืชื‘ื’ืจื• ื•ืชืชืขืฉืชื•."
02:08
After we left, I called my mom,
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ืื—ืจื™ ืฉื™ืฆืื ื• ืžืฉื ื”ืชืงืฉืจืชื™ ืœืืžื ืฉืœื™,
02:12
but Keith beat me to it,
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ืื‘ืœ ืงื™ืช' ื”ืงื“ื™ื ืื•ืชื™,
02:14
and he told her that I wasn't helpful.
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ื•ืืžืจ ืœื” ืฉืœื ืขื–ืจืชื™ ื‘ื›ืœืœ.
02:17
In fact, he was hurt and felt ganged-up on.
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ืœืžืขืฉื”, ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืคื’ื•ืข ื•ื”ืจื’ื™ืฉ ืžื•ืชืงืฃ ืžื›ืœ ื”ื›ื™ื•ื•ื ื™ื.
02:24
Of course he did. I shamed him with my tough-love budget conversation.
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ื‘ืจื•ืจ ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ืจื’ื™ืฉ ื›ื›ื”, ืื ื™ ื‘ื™ื™ืฉืชื™ ืื•ืชื• ืขื ืฉื™ื—ืช ื”ืชืงืฆื™ื‘ ื”ืงืฉื•ื—ื”-ืจื’ื™ืฉื” ืฉืœื™.
02:33
Two months went by when I received a call.
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ืขื‘ืจื• ื—ื•ื“ืฉื™ื™ื ื•ืงื™ื‘ืœืชื™ ืฉื™ื—ืช ื˜ืœืคื•ืŸ.
02:36
"Tam? I have bad news.
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"ืชืž'? ื™ืฉ ืœื™ ื—ื“ืฉื•ืช ืจืขื•ืช."
02:40
Keith committed suicide last night."
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"ืงื™ืช' ื”ืชืื‘ื“ ืืชืžื•ืœ ื‘ืœื™ืœื”."
02:47
Days later, at his home, I went looking for answers,
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ื›ืžื” ื™ืžื™ื ืื—ืจ ื›ืš, ื‘ื‘ื™ืช ืฉืœื• ื”ืœื›ืชื™ ืœื—ืคืฉ ืชืฉื•ื‘ื•ืช,
02:52
in his "office" -- the garage.
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ื‘"ืžืฉืจื“ ืฉืœื•" - ื‘ื’ืจืื–'.
02:56
There, I found a stack of overdue credit card bills
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ืžืฆืืชื™ ืฉื ืขืจื™ืžื” ืฉืœ ื—ืฉื‘ื•ื ื•ืช ืฉืœ ื›ืจื˜ื™ืกื™ ืืฉืจืื™ ืฉืœื ืฉื•ืœืžื•
03:00
and a foreclosure notice served to him on the day that he died.
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ื•ื”ื•ื“ืขืช ืขื™ืงื•ืœ ืฉื ืžืกืจื” ืœื• ื‘ื™ื•ื ืฉื”ื•ื ืžืช.
03:24
My brother left behind his beautiful 10-year-old daughter,
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ืื—ื™ ื”ืฉืื™ืจ ืื—ืจื™ื• ื™ืœื“ื” ื™ืคื” ื‘ืช ืขืฉืจ,
03:29
his brilliant 18-year-old son, weeks before his high school graduation,
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ื‘ืŸ ืžื‘ืจื™ืง ื‘ืŸ ืฉืžื•ื ื” ืขืฉืจื” ื›ืžื” ืฉื‘ื•ืขื•ืช ืœืคื ื™ ื˜ืงืก ืกื™ื•ื ื”ืชื™ื›ื•ืŸ,
03:34
and his wife of 20 years.
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ื•ืืช ืืฉืชื• ื‘ืขืฉืจื™ื ื”ืฉื ื™ื ื”ืื—ืจื•ื ื•ืช.
03:38
How did this happen?
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ืื™ืš ื–ื” ืงืจื”?
03:42
My brother was caught in our family's money-shame cycle,
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ืื—ื™ ื ืœื›ื“ ื‘ืžืขื’ืœ "ื‘ื•ืฉืช ื”ื›ืกืฃ" ื”ืžืฉืคื—ืชื™ ืฉืœื ื•,
03:46
and he was far from alone in this.
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ื•ื”ื•ื ืœื ื”ื™ื” ืœื‘ื“ ื‘ืกื™ืคื•ืจ ื”ื–ื”.
03:50
Suicide rates among adults ages 40 to 64
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ืฉื™ืขื•ืจื™ ื”ื”ืชืื‘ื“ื•ืช ืฉืœ ืžื‘ื•ื’ืจื™ื ื‘ื’ื™ืœืื™ ืืจื‘ืขื™ื ืขื“ ืฉื™ืฉื™ื ื•ืืจื‘ืข
03:55
have risen nearly 40 percent since 1999.
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ืขืœื” ื‘ืืจื‘ืขื™ื ืื—ื•ื–ื™ื ืžืื– 1999,
04:00
Job loss, bankruptcy and foreclosures
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ืื•ื‘ื“ืŸ ืžืงื•ืžื•ืช ืขื‘ื•ื“ื”, ืคืฉื™ื˜ื•ืช ืจื’ืœ ื•ืขื™ืงื•ืœื™ื
04:03
were present in nearly 40 percent of the deaths,
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ื”ื™ื• ืžืขื•ืจื‘ื™ื ื‘ื›ืืจื‘ืขื™ื ืื—ื•ื–ื™ื ืžืžืงืจื™ ื”ืžื•ื•ืช,
04:06
with white middle-aged men accounting for seven out of 10 suicides.
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ืฉืœ ื’ื‘ืจื™ื ืœื‘ื ื™ื ื‘ื’ื™ืœ ื”ืขืžื™ื“ื” ื•ื”ื™ื• ืื—ืจืื™ื ืœืฉื‘ืขื” ืžืชื•ืš ืขืฉืจื” ืžืงืจื™ ื”ืชืื‘ื“ื•ืช.
04:13
What I've learned
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ืžื” ืฉืœืžื“ืชื™
04:16
is that our self-destructive and self-defeating financial behaviors
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ื–ื” ืฉื”ืชื ื”ื’ื•ื™ื•ืช ื›ืœื›ืœื™ืช ืฉืœ ื”ืจืก ืขืฆืžื™ ื•ืชื‘ื•ืกื” ืขืฆืžื™ืช
04:22
are not driven by our rational, logical minds.
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ืœื ื ื•ื‘ืขื•ืช ืžื”ืžื—ืฉื‘ื•ืช ื”ืœื•ื’ื™ื•ืช ื•ื”ื”ื’ื™ื•ื ื™ื•ืช ืฉืœื ื•.
04:27
Instead, they are a product of our subconscious belief systems
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ืืœื ื”ืŸ ืชื•ืฆืื” ืฉืœ ืžืขืจื›ืช ื”ืืžื•ื ื•ืช ื”ืชืช ืžื•ื“ืขืช ืฉืœื ื•
04:33
rooted in our childhoods
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ืฉื ื˜ื•ืขื” ื‘ื™ืœื“ื•ืช ืฉืœื ื•
04:35
and so deeply ingrained in us,
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ื•ื˜ื‘ื•ืขื” ื‘ื ื• ื›ืœ ื›ืš ืขืžื•ืง,
04:38
they shape the way that we deal with money our entire adult lives,
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ืฉื”ืŸ ืžืขืฆื‘ื•ืช ืืช ื”ื“ืจืš ืฉื‘ื” ื ืชืžื•ื“ื“ ืขื ื›ืกืฃ ื‘ื›ืœ ื—ื™ื™ื ื• ื”ื‘ื•ื’ืจื™ื,
04:43
and so many of you are left believing that you're lazy,
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ื•ื›ืœ ื›ืš ื”ืจื‘ื” ืžื›ื ืžืžืฉื™ื›ื™ื ืœื”ืืžื™ืŸ ืฉืืชื ืขืฆืœื ื™ื,
04:49
crazy or stupid -- or just bad with money.
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ืžืฉื•ื’ืขื™ื ืื• ื˜ื™ืคืฉื™ื - ืื• ืกืชื ื’ืจื•ืขื™ื ืขื ื›ืกืฃ.
04:55
This is what I call money shame.
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ืœื–ื” ืื ื™ ืงื•ืจืืช "ื‘ื•ืฉืช ื”ื›ืกืฃ".
04:59
Dr. Brenรฉ Brown, a well-known shame researcher,
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ื“ืจ' ื‘ืจื ื” ื‘ืจืื•ืŸ, ื—ื•ืงืจืช ื‘ื•ืฉื” ื™ื“ื•ืขื”,
05:02
defines shame as "the intensely painful feeling or experience
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ืžื’ื“ื™ืจื” ื‘ื•ืฉื” ื›"ื—ื•ื•ื™ื” ืื• ื”ืจื’ืฉื” ื›ื•ืื‘ืช ื‘ื™ื•ืชืจ
05:09
of believing that we are flawed,
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ืฉืœ ืืžื•ื ื” ืฉืื ื—ื ื• ืคื’ื•ืžื™ื,
05:12
and therefore unworthy of love and belonging."
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ื•ืœื›ืŸ ืœื ืจืื•ื™ื™ื ืœืื”ื‘ื” ืื• ืœื”ืฉืชื™ื™ื›ื•ืช."
05:17
Based on this definition, here's how I'm defining money shame:
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ื‘ื”ืชื‘ืกืก ืขืœ ื”ื”ื’ื“ืจื” ื”ื–ื•, ื”ื ื” ื”ื”ื’ื“ืจื” ืฉืœื™ ืœ"ื‘ื•ืฉืช ื”ื›ืกืฃ"
05:23
"the intensely painful feeling or experience
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"ื—ื•ื•ื™ื” ืื• ื”ืจื’ืฉื” ื›ื•ืื‘ืช ื‘ื™ื•ืชืจ
05:26
of believing that we are flawed,
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ืฉืœ ืืžื•ื ื” ืฉืื ื—ื ื• ืคื’ื•ืžื™ื,
05:29
and therefore unworthy of love and belonging,
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ื•ืœื›ืŸ ืœื ืจืื•ื™ื™ื ืœืื”ื‘ื” ื•ื”ืฉืชื™ื™ื›ื•ืช,
05:32
based on our bank account balances,
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ื”ืžืชื‘ืกืกืช ืขืœ ืžืฆื‘ ื—ืฉื‘ื•ืŸ ื”ื‘ื ืง ืฉืœื ื•,
05:35
our debts, our homes, our cars
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ื”ื—ื•ื‘ื•ืช ืฉืœื ื•, ื”ื‘ืชื™ื ืฉืœื ื•, ื”ืžื›ื•ื ื™ื•ืช ืฉืœื ื•
05:40
and our job titles."
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ื•ื”ื’ื“ืจื•ืช ื”ืชืคืงื™ื“ ืฉืœื ื•."
05:43
Let me give you a couple of examples of what I mean.
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ื”ืจืฉื• ืœื™ ืœืชืช ืœื›ื ื›ืžื” ื“ื•ื’ืžืื•ืช ืœืžื” ืื ื™ ืžืชื›ื•ื•ื ืช.
05:47
I believe that we all have money shame,
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ืื ื™ ืžืืžื™ื ื” ืฉืœื›ื•ืœื ื• ื™ืฉ "ื‘ื•ืฉืช ื›ืกืฃ,"
05:50
whether you earn 10,000 dollars a year or 10 million,
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ื–ื” ืœื ืžืฉื ื” ืื ืืชื ืžืจื•ื•ื™ื—ื™ื 5000 ืฉืงืœื™ื ื‘ื—ื•ื“ืฉ ืื• 150,000,
05:54
and it's because we give money all of our power.
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ื•ื–ื” ื‘ื’ืœืœ ืฉืื ื—ื ื• ื ื•ืชื ื™ื ืœื›ืกืฃ ืืช ื›ืœ ื”ื›ื•ื— ืฉืœื ื•.
05:59
Here's what it would look like if someone that you love, or you,
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ื›ื›ื” ื–ื” ื™ื™ืจืื” ืื ืœืžื™ืฉื”ื• ืฉืืชื ืื•ื”ื‘ื™ื ืื• ืœื›ื,
06:03
might have money shame.
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ืชื”ื™ื” ื‘ื•ืฉืช ื›ืกืฃ.
06:06
They play the big shot, always picking up the check,
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ื”ื ื™ืฉื—ืงื• ืื•ืชื” ื‘ื’ื“ื•ืœ ืชืžื™ื“ ื™ืฉืœืžื• ืืช ื”ื—ืฉื‘ื•ืŸ ื‘ืžืกืขื“ื”,
06:09
financially rescuing family and friends.
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ื™ืจืชืžื• ืœืขื–ื•ืจ ื›ืœื›ืœื™ืช ืœื—ื‘ืจื™ื ื•ืžืฉืคื—ื”.
06:12
They are financially secure,
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ื”ื ื™ืฆื™ื‘ื™ื ื›ืœื›ืœื™ืช,
06:14
but they live in a state of chronic not-enoughness.
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ืื‘ืœ ื—ื™ื™ื ื‘ืžืฆื‘ ื›ืจื•ื ื™ ืฉืœ "ืœื ืžืกืคื™ืง."
06:20
They drive a Mercedes, but their budget really only can afford a Honda.
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ื”ื ื ื•ื”ื’ื™ื ื‘ืžืจืฆื“ืก ืื‘ืœ ื”ืชืงืฆื™ื‘ ืฉืœื”ื ืžืกืคื™ืง ืจืง ืœื”ื•ื ื“ื”.
06:28
And they're looking good at every cost.
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ื•ื”ื ืชืžื™ื“ ื ืจืื™ื ื˜ื•ื‘, ื‘ื›ืœ ืžื—ื™ืจ.
06:32
I know that we can break free from the grips of money shame,
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ืื ื™ ื™ื•ื“ืขืช ืฉืื ื—ื ื• ื™ื›ื•ืœื™ื ืœื”ืฉืชื—ืจืจ ืžื–ืจื•ืขื•ืช "ื‘ื•ืฉืช ื”ื›ืกืฃ,"
06:36
because I did.
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ื›ื™ ืื ื™ ื”ืฉืชื—ืจืจืชื™.
06:39
Shortly after my brother's death, the Recession hit.
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ื–ืžืŸ ืงืฆืจ ืื—ืจื™ ืฉืื—ื™ ืžืช ื”ืชื—ื™ืœ ื”ืžื™ืชื•ืŸ.
06:43
I lost my business and faced bankruptcy.
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ืื™ื‘ื“ืชื™ ืืช ื”ืขืกืง ืฉืœื™ ื•ืขืžื“ืชื™ ื‘ืคื ื™ ืคืฉื™ื˜ืช ืจื’ืœ.
06:48
Secretly, I was terrified.
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ืขืžื•ืง ื‘ืคื ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืžืคื•ื—ื“ืช.
06:53
I stayed in my home for a year, thinking I did something wrong,
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ื ืฉืืจืชื™ ื‘ื‘ื™ืช ืœืžืฉืš ืฉื ื”, ื•ื—ืฉื‘ืชื™ ืฉืขืฉื™ืชื™ ืžืฉื”ื• ืจืข.
06:59
told myself, "What did you do? What happened?"
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ืืžืจืชื™ ืœืขืฆืžื™ "ืžื” ืขืฉื™ืช? ืžื” ืงืจื”?"
07:03
I stayed silent, while all along, I went outside and smiled.
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ืฉืžืจืชื™ ืขืœ ืฉืชื™ืงื” ื›ืฉื›ืœ ื”ื–ืžืŸ ื”ื–ื” ื—ื™ื™ื›ืชื™ ื›ืœืคื™ ื—ื•ืฅ.
07:09
Nobody knew.
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ืืฃ ืื—ื“ ืœื ื™ื“ืข.
07:11
That's money shame.
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ื–ื• "ื‘ื•ืฉืช ื”ื›ืกืฃ."
07:14
So what I had to do was let go of the grip that I had
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ืžื” ืฉืขืฉื™ืชื™ ื‘ืกื•ืฃ ื”ื™ื” ืœืฉื—ืจืจ ืืช ื”ืžื—ืฉื‘ื”
07:20
on knowing all the answers.
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ืฉืื ื™ ื™ื•ื“ืขืช ืืช ื›ืœ ื”ืชืฉื•ื‘ื•ืช.
07:22
I was the know-it-all in my family,
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ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื–ื• ืฉื™ื•ื“ืขืช ื”ื›ืœ ื‘ืžืฉืคื—ื” ืฉืœื™,
07:25
and I had to give up the idea that a new financial plan
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ื•ื ืืœืฆืชื™ ืœื”ืจืคื•ืช ืžื”ืจืขื™ื•ืŸ ืฉืชื•ื›ื ื™ืช ื›ืœื›ืœื™ืช ื—ื“ืฉื”
07:30
was the solution.
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ื”ื™ื ื”ืคืชืจื•ืŸ.
07:33
And so just like everything in my life, for me,
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ื•ื›ืš, ื›ืžื• ื›ืœ ื“ื‘ืจ ืืฆืœื™ ื‘ื—ื™ื™ื, ืขื‘ื•ืจื™,
07:38
I was sent a human to help,
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ืžื™ืฉื”ื• ื ืฉืœื— ืœืขื–ื•ืจ ืœื™,
07:42
and I accepted the help,
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ื•ืื ื™ ื”ืกื›ืžืชื™ ืœืงื‘ืœ ืืช ื”ืขื–ืจื”,
07:46
but I had to do major self-inquiry
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ืื‘ืœ ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืฆืจื™ื›ื” ืœื—ืงื•ืจ ืขืžื•ืง ื‘ืชื•ื›ื™
07:49
about my family's money history
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ื‘ืงืฉืจ ืœื”ื™ืกื˜ื•ืจื™ื” ื”ื›ืกืคื™ืช ืฉืœ ื”ืžืฉืคื—ื” ืฉืœื™
07:52
and my money beliefs.
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ื•ื”ืืžื•ื ื•ืช ืฉืœื™ ืœื’ื‘ื™ ื›ืกืฃ.
07:56
We have to start having this conversation.
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ืื ื—ื ื• ืฆืจื™ื›ื™ื ืœื”ืชื—ื™ืœ ืœื“ื‘ืจ ืขืœ ื–ื”.
08:00
Money can no longer be a taboo topic.
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ื›ืกืฃ ืœื ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœื”ืžืฉื™ืš ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ื˜ืื‘ื• ืฉืœื ืžื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืขืœื™ื•.
08:04
We have to get honest with each other that we're suffering with money issues,
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ืื ื—ื ื• ืฆืจื™ื›ื™ื ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ื›ื ื™ื ื–ื” ืขื ื–ื” ื‘ืงืฉืจ ืœืกื‘ืœ ืฉื ื’ืจื ืœื ื• ืžืขื ื™ื™ื ื™ื ื›ืกืคื™ื™ื,
08:10
and let's get real -- we have to stop numbing out our pain.
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ื•ื‘ื•ืื• ื ื”ื™ื™ื” ืจืฆื™ื ื™ื™ื - ืื ื—ื ื• ืฆืจื™ื›ื™ื ืœื”ืคืกื™ืง ืœืขืžืขื ืืช ื”ื›ืื‘ ืฉืœื ื•.
08:16
In order to uncover the painful parts
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ื›ื“ื™ ืœื—ืฉื•ืฃ ืืช ื”ื—ืœืงื™ื ื”ื›ื•ืื‘ื™ื
08:19
of your money story and your money history,
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ืฉืœ ื”ืกื™ืคื•ืจ ื”ื›ืกืคื™ ื•ืฉืœ ื”ื”ื™ืกื˜ื•ืจื™ื” ื”ื›ืกืคื™ืช ืฉืœื ื•,
08:23
you can't be numb.
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ืืชื ืœื ื™ื›ื•ืœื™ื ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืขืžื•ืžื™ื.
08:25
We have to let go of our past in order to be free.
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ืื ื—ื ื• ืฆืจื™ื›ื™ื ืœืฉื—ืจืจ ืืช ื”ืขื‘ืจ ืฉืœื ื• ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ื™ืช ื—ื•ืคืฉื™ื™ื.
08:32
Letting go of the past happens through surrender,
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ืฉื™ื—ืจื•ืจ ืžื”ืขื‘ืจ ืงื•ืจื” ื“ืจืš ื›ื ื™ืขื”,
08:36
faith and forgiveness.
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ืืžื•ื ื” ื•ืžื—ื™ืœื”.
08:39
Debt is the tangible manifestation of not forgiving.
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ื—ื•ื‘ ื”ื•ื ื”ื‘ื™ื˜ื•ื™ ื”ืžื•ื—ืฉื™ ืฉืœ ื—ื•ืกืจ ื”ื™ื›ื•ืœืช ืœืกืœื•ื—.
08:44
If you have debt, you've not completely forgiven your past,
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ืื ื™ืฉ ืœื›ื ื—ื•ื‘, ืœื ืกืœื—ืชื ืœื’ืžืจื™ ืœืขื‘ืจ ืฉืœื›ื,
08:49
so it's our work to forgive ourselves and others
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ืื– ื–ื• ื”ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ืฉืœื ื• ืœืกืœื•ื— ืœืขืฆืžื ื• ื•ืœืื—ืจื™ื
08:52
so that we can live freely.
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ื›ื“ื™ ืฉื ื•ื›ืœ ืœื—ื™ื•ืช ื‘ื—ื•ืคืฉื™ื•ืช.
08:54
Otherwise, our history will continue to repeat.
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ืื—ืจืช, ื”ื”ื™ืกื˜ื•ืจื™ื” ืฉืœื ื• ืชื—ื–ื•ืจ ืขืœ ืขืฆืžื”.
08:59
This is not a quick fix, and I know we all want one,
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ืื™ืŸ ื›ืืŸ ืคืชืจื•ืŸ ืงืกื ื•ืื ื™ ื™ื•ื“ืขืช ืฉื›ื•ืœื ื• ืจื•ืฆื™ื ื›ื–ื”,
09:03
but it's a slow wake-up.
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ืžื“ื•ื‘ืจ ื‘ื”ืชืขื•ืจืจื•ืช ืื™ื˜ื™ืช.
09:05
This is another level of work.
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ื–ื• ืจืžื” ืื—ืจืช ืฉืœ ืขื‘ื•ื“ื”.
09:08
We have to go higher to get it,
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ืื ื—ื ื• ืฆืจื™ื›ื™ื ืœื”ืชืขืœื•ืช ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ื’ื™ืข ืœืฉื,
09:11
to get at it.
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ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืฉื.
09:14
So try this: follow your dollars.
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ืื– ื ืกื• ืืช ื”ื“ื‘ืจ ื”ื‘ื: ืขืงื‘ื• ืื—ืจื™ ื”ื›ืกืฃ ืฉืœื›ื.
09:17
Your money will show you right away what you value.
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ื”ื›ืกืฃ ืฉืœื›ื ื™ืจืื” ืœื›ื ื‘ืื•ืคืŸ ืžื™ื™ื“ื™ ืžื” ื—ืฉื•ื‘ ืœื›ื.
09:21
Where's it going?
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ืœืืŸ ื”ื›ืกืฃ ื”ื•ืœืš?
09:22
And then ask yourself: Do I really value all this stuff?
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ื•ืื– ืชืฉืืœื• ืืช ืขืฆืžื›ื: ื”ืื ื›ืœ ื”ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื”ืืœื• ื—ืฉื•ื‘ื™ื ืœื™ ื‘ืืžืช?
09:27
And get curious about what you're feeling when you're spending.
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ื•ืชื‘ื—ื ื• ืžื” ืืชื ืžืจื’ื™ืฉื™ื ื›ืฉืืชื ืžื•ืฆื™ืื™ื ื›ืกืฃ.
09:31
Are you lonely?
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ื”ืื ืืชื ื‘ื•ื“ื“ื™ื?
09:33
Are you bored?
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ื”ืื ืืชื ืžืฉื•ืขืžืžื™ื?
09:34
Or are you just excited?
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ืื• ื”ืื ืืชื ืจืง ืžืชืœื”ื‘ื™ื?
09:39
But there's deeper work that needs to happen.
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ืื‘ืœ ื™ืฉ ืจืžื” ืขืžื•ืงื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ืฉืœ ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ืฉืฆืจื™ื›ื” ืœืงืจื•ืช.
09:42
How did you get all these money beliefs to begin with?
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ืื™ืš ื”ืชื—ืœืชื ืœื”ืืžื™ืŸ ื‘ื›ืœ ื”ืืžื•ื ื•ืช ื”ืืœื• ืขืœ ื›ืกืฃ?
09:46
I call this your money autobiography,
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ืื ื™ ืงื•ืจืืช ืœื–ื” "ื”ืื•ื˜ื•ื‘ื™ื•ื’ืจืคื™ื” ื”ื›ืกืคื™ืช" ืฉืœื›ื,
09:49
and as a money coach, this is the first step I take with my clients.
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ื•ื›ืžืืžื ืช ื›ืœื›ืœื™ืช ื–ื” ื”ืฆืขื“ ื”ืจืืฉื•ืŸ ืฉืื ื™ ืขื•ืฉื” ืขื ื”ืœืงื•ื—ื•ืช ืฉืœื™.
09:54
Think back to your earliest childhood money memory.
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ืชื—ื–ืจื• ืื—ื•ืจื” ืœื–ื›ืจื•ืŸ ื”ื™ืœื“ื•ืช ื”ืจืืฉื•ืŸ ืฉืœื›ื ืขืœ ื›ืกืฃ.
09:58
What did it feel like when you got money?
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ืžื” ื”ืจื’ืฉืชื ื›ืฉื”ื™ื” ืœื›ื ื›ืกืฃ?
10:01
Were you excited, proud or confused?
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ื”ืื ื”ืชืœื”ื‘ืชื, ื”ืจื’ืฉืชื ื’ืื•ื•ื” ื•ืื•ืœื™ ื‘ื™ืœื‘ื•ืœ?
10:06
And what did you do with the money?
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ื•ืžื” ืขืฉื™ืชื ืขื ื”ื›ืกืฃ?
10:08
Did you run with the candy store, or did you run to the bank?
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ื”ืื ืจืฆืชื ืœืงื ื•ืช ืžืžืชืงื™ื ืื• ืฉืจืฆืชื ืœื”ืคืงื™ื“ ืื•ืชื•?
10:12
And what did you hear your parents say,
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ื•ืžื” ืฉืžืขืชื ืืช ื”ื”ื•ืจื™ื ืฉืœื›ื ืื•ืžืจื™ื?
10:15
and what did you see your parents do with the money?
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ื•ืžื” ืจืื™ืชื ืืช ื”ื”ื•ืจื™ื ืฉืœื›ื ืขื•ืฉื™ื ืขื ื›ืกืฃ?
10:19
My brother and I heard,
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ืื—ื™ ื•ืื ื™ ืฉืžืขื ื•,
10:21
"More money will make us happy."
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"ื™ื•ืชืจ ื›ืกืฃ ื™ื’ืจื•ื ืœื ื• ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืžืื•ืฉืจื™ื."
10:24
Every day.
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ื›ืœ ื™ื•ื.
10:25
"More money will make us happy."
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"ื™ื•ืชืจ ื›ืกืฃ ื™ื’ืจื•ื ืœื ื• ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืžืื•ืฉืจื™ื."
10:27
And we internalized that into the money belief
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ื•ื”ืคื ืžื ื• ืืช ื–ื” ืœืชื•ืš ื”ืืžื•ื ื•ืช ืฉืœื ื• ืขืœ ื›ืกืฃ
10:31
that our self worth was equal to our net worth
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ืฉื”ืขืจืš ื”ืขืฆืžื™ ืฉืœื ื• ื”ื™ื” ืฉื•ื•ื” ืœืขืจืš ื”ื›ืกืคื™ ืฉืœื ื•
10:35
as we watched our mom live in a state of chronic not-enoughness.
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ื›ืฉืฆืคื™ื ื• ื‘ืืžื ืฉืœื ื• ื—ื™ื™ื” ื‘ืžืฆื‘ ื›ืจื•ื ื™ ืฉืœ "ืœื ืžืกืคื™ืง."
10:41
And she numbed the pain with sugar and shopping.
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ื•ื”ื™ื ืขืžืขืžื” ืืช ื”ื›ืื‘ ืขื ืกื•ื›ืจ ื•ืงื ื™ื•ืช.
10:46
So what did we do?
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ืื– ืžื” ืขืฉื™ื ื•?
10:48
Keith played out my mother's life.
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ืงื™ืช' ืื™ืžืฅ ืืช ืกื’ื ื•ืŸ ื”ื—ื™ื™ื ืฉืœ ืืžื ืฉืœื™.
10:51
He was an underearner, longed to be financially rescued,
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ื”ื•ื ื”ืจื•ื•ื™ื— ืžืขื˜ ืžื“ื™, ื”ืฉืชื•ืงืง ืœื™ืฉื•ืขื” ื›ืœื›ืœื™ืช,
10:55
and he numbed out the pain with alcohol.
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ื•ื”ื•ื ืขืžืขื ืืช ื”ื›ืื‘ ืขื ืืœื›ื•ื”ื•ืœ.
10:59
I did the opposite.
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ืื ื™ ืขืฉื™ืชื™ ืืช ื”ื”ืคืš.
11:01
I became a high earner,
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ื”ืจื•ื•ื—ืชื™ ื”ืจื‘ื”,
11:03
rescuer,
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ื”ืคื›ืชื™ ืœืžื•ืฉื™ืขื”,
11:06
and I numbed the pain out with self-help books.
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ื•ืขืžืขืžืชื™ ืืช ื”ื›ืื‘ ืขื ืกืคืจื™ ืขื–ืจื” ืขืฆืžื™ืช.
11:11
But what we had in common was our money belief.
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ืื‘ืœ ืžื” ืฉื”ื™ื” ืžืฉื•ืชืฃ ืœื ื• ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื”ืืžื•ื ื” ื”ื›ืกืคื™ืช ืฉืœื ื•.
11:14
We both believed that our bank account balance
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ืฉื ื™ื ื• ื”ืืžื ื• ืฉืžืฆื‘ ื—ืฉื‘ื•ืŸ ื”ื‘ื ืง ืฉืœื ื•
11:17
was equal to our self worth.
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ืฉื™ืงืฃ ืืช ื”ืขืจืš ื”ืขืฆืžื™ ืฉืœื ื•.
11:20
Looking back at the Starbucks meeting with my brother ...
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ื›ืฉืื ื™ ืžืกืชื›ืœืช ืขืœ ื”ืฉื™ื—ื” ืฉืœื™ ืขื ืื—ื™ ื‘ืกื˜ืจื‘ืงืก...
11:25
he didn't need a budget and my judgment.
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ื”ื•ื ืœื ื”ื™ื” ืฆืจื™ืš ืชืงืฆื™ื‘ ื•ืืช ื”ืฉื™ืคื•ื˜ื™ื•ืช ืฉืœื™.
11:29
He needed a breakthrough from his suffering,
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ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืฆืจื™ืš ื“ืจืš ืœืคืจื•ืฅ ืžืชื•ืš ื”ืกื‘ืœ ืฉืœื•,
11:32
and he needed my compassion.
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ื•ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืฆืจื™ืš ืืช ื”ื—ืžืœื” ืฉืœื™.
11:36
Keith was not able to be the one to speak up
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ืงื™ืช' ืœื ื”ื™ื” ืžืกื•ื’ืœ ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ื–ื” ืฉืžืฆื™ืฃ ืืช ื”ื“ื‘ืจื™ื
11:38
and break our family money shame cycle,
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ื•ืฉื•ื‘ืจ ืืช ืžืขื’ืœ ื‘ื•ืฉืช ื”ื›ืกืฃ ื”ืžืฉืคื—ืชื™ ืฉืœื ื•,
11:41
so he left me to do the work and share his legacy.
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ืื– ื”ื•ื ื”ืฉืื™ืจ ืœื™ ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืืช ื”ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ื•ืœื”ืคื™ืฅ ืืช ื”ืžื•ืจืฉืช ืฉืœื•.
11:46
Change is difficult,
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ืฉื™ื ื•ื™ ื”ื•ื ืงืฉื”,
11:49
but in my family, not changing is fatal.
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ืื‘ืœ ื‘ืžืฉืคื—ื” ืฉืœื™, ืœื ืœื”ืฉืชื ื•ืช ื–ื” ืงื˜ืœื ื™.
11:54
So I did the work,
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ืื– ืื ื™ ืขืฉื™ืชื™ ืืช ื”ืขื‘ื•ื“ื”,
11:56
and I have experienced deep and profound forgiveness,
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ื•ื—ื•ื•ื™ืชื™ ืžื—ื™ืœื” ื›ื ื” ื•ืขืžื•ืงื”,
12:03
and as I stand here today,
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ื•ื›ืฉืื ื™ ืขื•ืžื“ืช ื›ืืŸ ื”ื™ื•ื,
12:05
I am living on purpose,
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ืื ื™ ื—ื™ื™ื” ื‘ืžื˜ืจื”,
12:09
I serve, and money serves me.
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ืื ื™ ืžืฉืจืชืช ื•ื”ื›ืกืฃ ืžืฉืจืช ืื•ืชื™.
12:13
It only takes one person in your family
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ื ื“ืจืฉ ืจืง ืื“ื ืื—ื“ ื‘ืžืฉืคื—ื” ืฉืœืš
12:18
to break through the money-shame cycle.
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ื›ื“ื™ ืœืฉื‘ื•ืจ ืืช ืžืขื’ืœ ื‘ื•ืฉืช ื”ื›ืกืฃ.
12:21
I want you to be the one.
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ืื ื™ ืจื•ืฆื” ืฉืืชื ืชื”ื™ื• ื”ืื“ื ื”ื–ื”.
12:24
Thank you.
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ืชื•ื“ื”.
12:25
(Applause)
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(ืžื—ื™ืื•ืช ื›ืคื™ื™ื)
ืขืœ ืืชืจ ื–ื”

ืืชืจ ื–ื” ื™ืฆื™ื’ ื‘ืคื ื™ื›ื ืกืจื˜ื•ื ื™ YouTube ื”ืžื•ืขื™ืœื™ื ืœืœื™ืžื•ื“ ืื ื’ืœื™ืช. ืชื•ื›ืœื• ืœืจืื•ืช ืฉื™ืขื•ืจื™ ืื ื’ืœื™ืช ื”ืžื•ืขื‘ืจื™ื ืขืœ ื™ื“ื™ ืžื•ืจื™ื ืžื”ืฉื•ืจื” ื”ืจืืฉื•ื ื” ืžืจื—ื‘ื™ ื”ืขื•ืœื. ืœื—ืฅ ืคืขืžื™ื™ื ืขืœ ื”ื›ืชื•ื‘ื™ื•ืช ื‘ืื ื’ืœื™ืช ื”ืžื•ืฆื’ื•ืช ื‘ื›ืœ ื“ืฃ ื•ื™ื“ืื• ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ืคืขื™ืœ ืืช ื”ืกืจื˜ื•ืŸ ืžืฉื. ื”ื›ืชื•ื‘ื™ื•ืช ื’ื•ืœืœื•ืช ื‘ืกื ื›ืจื•ืŸ ืขื ื”ืคืขืœืช ื”ื•ื•ื™ื“ืื•. ืื ื™ืฉ ืœืš ื”ืขืจื•ืช ืื• ื‘ืงืฉื•ืช, ืื ื ืฆื•ืจ ืื™ืชื ื• ืงืฉืจ ื‘ืืžืฆืขื•ืช ื˜ื•ืคืก ื™ืฆื™ืจืช ืงืฉืจ ื–ื”.

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