Let's get honest about our money problems | Tammy Lally

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μ•„λž˜ μ˜λ¬Έμžλ§‰μ„ λ”λΈ”ν΄λ¦­ν•˜μ‹œλ©΄ μ˜μƒμ΄ μž¬μƒλ©λ‹ˆλ‹€.

λ²ˆμ—­: Hyun Sang Lee κ²€ν† : Jihyeon J. Kim
00:12
Have you every had to break your family's rules?
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κ°€μ‘±μ˜ κ·œμΉ™μ„ μ–΄κ²¨μ•Όλ§Œ ν–ˆλ˜ 적이 μžˆλ‚˜μš”?
였늘 μ „ 제 κ°€μ‘±μ˜ κ·œμΉ™μ„ μ–΄κΈΈ κ²λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:16
Today, I'm breaking mine,
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00:18
around money, secrecy and shame.
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돈, λΉ„λ°€κ³Ό μˆ˜μΉ˜μ‹¬μ— κ΄€ν•œ κ·œμΉ™μ΄μ£ .
00:23
In 2006, on my brother Keith's 40th birthday, he called.
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2006λ…„, 제 였빠 ν‚€μ΄μŠ€κ°€ 그의 40번째 생일에 μ „ν™”λ₯Ό ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:29
"Tam, I'm in dire straits.
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"탬, λ‚˜λŠ” κ·Ήμ‹¬ν•œ κ°€λ‚œμ— μ‹œλ‹¬λ¦¬κ³  μžˆμ–΄.
00:32
I wouldn't ask unless I had to.
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이런 상황이 μ•„λ‹ˆμ—ˆλ‹€λ©΄ 물어보지 μ•Šμ•˜μ„κ±°μ•Ό.
00:36
Can I borrow 7,500 dollars?"
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7,500λ‹¬λŸ¬λ§Œ λΉŒλ €μ€„ 수 μžˆμ–΄?"
κ·Έκ°€ κΈ‰νžˆ 돈이 ν•„μš”ν•˜λ‹€κ³  ν•œ 건 이번이 처음이 μ•„λ‹ˆμ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:40
This wasn't the first time he needed quick cash,
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00:43
but this time, his voice frightened me.
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ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ μ΄λ²ˆμ—” 그의 λͺ©μ†Œλ¦¬κ°€ μ €λ₯Ό λ‘λ ΅κ²Œ ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:47
I had never heard him so beaten down and shameful,
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μ €λŠ” 그의 λͺ©μ†Œλ¦¬κ°€ κ·Έλ ‡κ²Œ μ£Όλˆ…λ“€μ–΄ μžˆλŠ” κ±Έ 듀은 적이 μ—†μ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
그날은 그의 40번째 μƒμΌμ΄μ—ˆλŠ”λ° λ§μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:54
and it was on his 40th birthday.
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01:01
After a few basic questions that we would all ask,
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κ°„λ‹¨ν•œ 질문 λͺ‡ 개만 ν•˜κ³ λ‚˜μ„œ
01:05
I agreed to loan him the money, but under one condition:
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μ €λŠ” λˆμ„ 빌렀주기둜 ν–ˆμ§€λ§Œ, ν•œ 가지 쑰건이 μžˆμ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:10
that as the financial professional in the family,
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κ°€μ‘±μ˜ μž¬μ • μ „λ¬Έκ°€λ‘œμ„œ 말이죠.
01:12
I wanted to meet with him and his wife
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μ €λŠ” 그와 그의 μ•„λ‚΄λ₯Ό λ§Œλ‚˜
01:14
to see what was really happening.
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무슨 일이 μžˆλŠ”μ§€ 직접 보고 μ‹Άμ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:17
Weeks later, we met at the local Starbucks,
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λͺ‡ μ£Ό ν›„, μ €ν¬λŠ” 동넀 μŠ€νƒ€λ²…μŠ€μ—μ„œ λ§Œλ‚¬μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:21
and I started right in with the tough-love budget conversation.
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μ €λŠ” κ³§λ°”λ‘œ μ˜ˆμ‚°μ— κ΄€ν•œ λ”±λ”±ν•œ 이야기뢀터 μ‹œμž‘ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:26
"You should sell the house, downsize to something you can afford,
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"κ·Έ 집을 νŒ”κ³ , 감당할 수 μžˆλŠ” μ§‘μœΌλ‘œ 크기λ₯Ό 쀄여야 ν•΄.
01:30
sell the toys.
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μž₯λ‚œκ°λ„ νŒ”μ•„μ•Όν•˜κ³ .
01:32
And Starbucks?
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그리고 μŠ€νƒ€λ²…μŠ€ μ»€ν”ΌλŠ”?
01:34
Give up the five-dollar-a-day coffee."
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ν•˜λ£¨μ— 5λ‹¬λŸ¬μ§œλ¦¬ 컀피λ₯Ό 포기해."
01:37
You know, all the trappings that we do to keep up with the Joneses.
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μ΄λŠ” λͺ¨λ‘ κ³Όμ‹œμš•μ— λ”°λ₯Έ 행동듀이죠.
01:42
Quickly, my brother and his wife went into a fearsome blame game,
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곧이어 μ˜€λΉ μ™€ 그의 μ•„λ‚΄λŠ” μ„œλ‘œμ—κ²Œ μ±…μž„μ„ μ „κ°€ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:47
and it got messy.
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μ—‰λ§μ§„μ°½μ΄μ—ˆμ§€μš”.
01:49
I vacillated between therapist and pissed-off sister.
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μ €λŠ” μΉ˜λ£Œμ‚¬μ™€ ν™”λ‚œ 여동생 쀑 μ–΄λ–€ 역할을 ν•΄μ•Ό 할지 λ§μ„€μ˜€μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
μ €λŠ” 그듀이 μ§€κΈˆλ³΄λ‹€ λ‚˜μ•„μ§€κΈ°λ₯Ό μ›ν–ˆμ£ .
01:56
I wanted them to be better than this.
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01:58
"Come on, you two. Get your shit together.
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"이봐, λ‘˜ λ‹€ μ •μ‹  μ’€ μ°¨λ €
02:02
You're parents.
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λ„ˆν¬λ“€μ€ μ•„μ΄λ“€μ˜ λΆ€λͺ¨μ•Ό.
02:03
Grow up and buck up."
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μ²  μ’€ λ“€κ³  κΈ°μš΄λ‚΄μ•Όμ§€."
02:08
After we left, I called my mom,
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저희가 헀어진 ν›„, μ €λŠ” μ—„λ§ˆμ—κ²Œ μ „ν™”ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:12
but Keith beat me to it,
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ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ ν‚€μŠ€κ°€ 저보닀 λ¨Όμ € μ „ν™”λ₯Ό ν–ˆλ”κ΅°μš”.
02:14
and he told her that I wasn't helpful.
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κ·ΈλŠ” μ—„λ§ˆμ—κ²Œ μ œκ°€ 도움이 λ˜μ§€ μ•ŠλŠ”λ‹€κ³  λ§ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:17
In fact, he was hurt and felt ganged-up on.
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사싀, κ·ΈλŠ” μƒμ²˜λ°›μ•˜κ³  μœ„μ••κ°μ„ λŠκΌˆμ„ κ±°μ˜ˆμš”.
02:24
Of course he did. I shamed him with my tough-love budget conversation.
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λ‹Ήμ—°νžˆ 그랬겠죠.
μ œκ°€ 그의 μ˜ˆμ‚° κ³„νšμ— κ΄€ν•œ λŒ€ν™”λ‘œ κ·Έλ₯Ό νƒ“ν–ˆμœΌλ‹ˆκΉŒμš”.
02:33
Two months went by when I received a call.
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두 달이 μ§€λ‚œ ν›„ μ €μ—κ²Œ μ „ν™”κ°€ μ™”μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:36
"Tam? I have bad news.
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"탬, μ•ˆ 쒋은 μ†Œμ‹μ΄ μžˆμ–΄.
02:40
Keith committed suicide last night."
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ν‚€μ΄μŠ€κ°€ μ–΄μ ―λ°€ μžμ‚΄ν–ˆμ–΄."
02:47
Days later, at his home, I went looking for answers,
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κ·Έ λ‹€μŒλ‚ , μ €λŠ” 그의 μ§‘μ—μ„œ 해닡을 μ°Ύμ•„λ‹€λ…”μ£ .
02:52
in his "office" -- the garage.
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그의 사무싀인 μ°¨κ³ μ—μ„œμš”.
02:56
There, I found a stack of overdue credit card bills
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μ €λŠ” μ—°μ²΄λœ μ‹ μš©μΉ΄λ“œ μ²­κ΅¬μ„œ 더미와
03:00
and a foreclosure notice served to him on the day that he died.
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κ·Έκ°€ μžμ‚΄ν•œ λ‚  받은 μ••λ₯˜ ν†΅μ§€μ„œλ₯Ό μ°Ύμ•˜μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:24
My brother left behind his beautiful 10-year-old daughter,
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제 μ˜€λΉ λŠ” 그의 예쁜 10μ‚΄μ§œλ¦¬ λ”Έ,
03:29
his brilliant 18-year-old son, weeks before his high school graduation,
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고등학ꡐ 쑸업이 ν•œ μ£Ό 남은 λ˜‘λ˜‘ν•œ 18μ‚΄ μ•„λ“€,
03:34
and his wife of 20 years.
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그리고 20λ…„ 된 μ•„λ‚΄λ₯Ό 두고 λ– λ‚¬μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:38
How did this happen?
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μ–΄λ–»κ²Œ 이런 일이 μΌμ–΄λ‚¬μ„κΉŒμš”?
03:42
My brother was caught in our family's money-shame cycle,
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우리 κ°€μ‘±μ²˜λŸΌ 돈 문제λ₯Ό λ§ν•˜κΈΈ κΊΌλ €ν•˜λŠ” 것은 우리 였빠만이 μ•„λ‹Œ,
03:46
and he was far from alone in this.
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λ§Žμ€ μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ΄ κ²ͺκ³ μžˆλŠ” ν˜„μƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€
03:50
Suicide rates among adults ages 40 to 64
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40μ„Έμ—μ„œ 64μ„Έ μ‚¬μ΄μ˜ μ–΄λ₯Έλ“€μ˜ μžμ‚΄λ₯ μ€
03:55
have risen nearly 40 percent since 1999.
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1999λ…„ μ΄ν›„λ‘œ 거의 40%λ‚˜ μ¦κ°€ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:00
Job loss, bankruptcy and foreclosures
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싀직, νŒŒμ‚° 그리고 μ••λ₯˜λŠ”
04:03
were present in nearly 40 percent of the deaths,
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사망λ₯  μ›μΈμ˜ 40%에 λ‹¬ν–ˆμœΌλ©°
04:06
with white middle-aged men accounting for seven out of 10 suicides.
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μ΄λŠ” 백인 쀑년 λ‚¨μ„±μ˜ μžμ‚΄ 원인 쀑 70%λ₯Ό μ°¨μ§€ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:13
What I've learned
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μ œκ°€ μ•Œκ²Œ 된 것은
04:16
is that our self-destructive and self-defeating financial behaviors
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우리의 자기 파괴적이며 골치 μ•„ν”ˆ κΈˆμ „μ  행동이
04:22
are not driven by our rational, logical minds.
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합리적이며 논리적인 생각에 κΈ°μΈν•˜μ§€ μ•ŠλŠ”λ‹€λŠ” κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:27
Instead, they are a product of our subconscious belief systems
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였히렀 이 행동듀은 우리의 λ¬΄μ˜μ‹μ μΈ 신념에 μ˜ν•΄ λ°œμƒν•˜λ©°
04:33
rooted in our childhoods
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이 신념은 아동기에 ν˜•μ„±λ˜κ³ 
04:35
and so deeply ingrained in us,
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λ„ˆλ¬΄λ‚˜λ„ κ°•ν•˜κ²Œ κ°μΈλ˜μ–΄
04:38
they shape the way that we deal with money our entire adult lives,
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성인이 λ˜μ–΄μ„œλ„ λˆμ„ κ΄€λ¦¬ν•˜λŠ” μŠ΅κ΄€μ— 영ν–₯을 μ€λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:43
and so many of you are left believing that you're lazy,
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그리고 λŒ€λΆ€λΆ„μ€ μžμ‹ μ΄ 게으λ₯΄κ³ ,
04:49
crazy or stupid -- or just bad with money.
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λ©μ²­ν•˜κ±°λ‚˜ μ•„λ‹ˆλ©΄ κ·Έμ € 돈 관리에 λ¬΄μ§€ν•œ μ‚¬λžŒμ΄λΌ λ―Ώμ§€μš”.
04:55
This is what I call money shame.
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μ €λŠ” 이λ₯Ό "돈 λ¬Έμ œμ— κ΄€ν•œ μˆ˜μΉ˜μ‹¬" 이라 λΆ€λ¦…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:59
Dr. BrenΓ© Brown, a well-known shame researcher,
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μˆ˜μΉ˜μ‹¬ 연ꡬ에 μ •ν†΅ν•œ λΈŒλ ˆλ„€ 브라운 λ°•μ‚¬λŠ”
05:02
defines shame as "the intensely painful feeling or experience
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μˆ˜μΉ˜μ‹¬μ„ "λ§€μš°κ³ ν†΅μŠ€λŸ¬μš΄ κ°μ •μ΄λ‚˜ κ²½ν—˜μœΌλ‘œμ„œ
05:09
of believing that we are flawed,
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μžμ‹ μ—κ²Œ 결함이 μžˆλ‹€κ³  μƒκ°ν•˜λ©°
05:12
and therefore unworthy of love and belonging."
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μ‚¬λž‘μ„ λ°›κ±°λ‚˜ μ†Œμ†λ  κ°€μΉ˜κ°€ μ—†λ‹€κ³  λ―ΏλŠ” 것"이라고 μ •μ˜ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
05:17
Based on this definition, here's how I'm defining money shame:
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이 μ •μ˜μ— κΈ°λ°˜ν•΄, μ €λŠ” "돈 λ¬Έμ œμ— κ΄€ν•œ μˆ˜μΉ˜μ‹¬"λ₯Ό
05:23
"the intensely painful feeling or experience
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"맀우 κ³ ν†΅μŠ€λŸ¬μš΄ κ°μ •μ΄λ‚˜ κ²½ν—˜μœΌλ‘œμ„œ
05:26
of believing that we are flawed,
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μžμ‹ μ—κ²Œ 결함이 μžˆλ‹€κ³  μƒκ°ν•˜λ©°
05:29
and therefore unworthy of love and belonging,
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μ‚¬λž‘μ„ λ°›κ±°λ‚˜ μ†Œμ†λ  κ°€μΉ˜κ°€ μ—†λ‹€κ³  λ―ΏλŠ” 것을
05:32
based on our bank account balances,
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우리의 톡μž₯μž”κ³ ,
05:35
our debts, our homes, our cars
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빚, 집, μ°¨
05:40
and our job titles."
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그리고 μ‚¬νšŒμ  μ§μ±…μ—μ˜ν•΄ νŒλ‹¨ν•˜λŠ” 것" 이라 ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
05:43
Let me give you a couple of examples of what I mean.
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λͺ‡ 가지 μ˜ˆμ‹œλ₯Ό λ“€μ–΄λ³΄κ² μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
우리 λͺ¨λ‘κ°€"돈 λ¬Έμ œμ— κ΄€ν•œ μˆ˜μΉ˜μ‹¬"을 가지고 μžˆλ‹€κ³  λ―ΏλŠ”λ°μš”.
05:47
I believe that we all have money shame,
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05:50
whether you earn 10,000 dollars a year or 10 million,
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연봉이 만 λ‹¬λŸ¬λ₯Ό λ²Œλ“  천만 λ‹¬λŸ¬λ₯Ό λ²Œλ“  상관없이
05:54
and it's because we give money all of our power.
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돈이 우리의 삢을 μ’Œμ§€μš°μ§€ν•˜κ²Œ λ§Œλ“€κΈ° λ•Œλ¬Έμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
05:59
Here's what it would look like if someone that you love, or you,
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λ§Œμ•½ μ—¬λŸ¬λΆ„μ΄λ‚˜ μ—¬λŸ¬λΆ„μ΄ μ‚¬λž‘ν•˜λŠ” μ‚¬λžŒμ—κ²Œ
06:03
might have money shame.
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"돈 λ¬Έμ œμ— κ΄€ν•œ μˆ˜μΉ˜μ‹¬"이 μžˆλ‹€λ©΄ 어떨지 이야기 ν•΄λ³΄κ² μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
06:06
They play the big shot, always picking up the check,
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그듀은 톡이 컀 항상 μŒμ‹κ°’μ„ λ‚΄λ©°
06:09
financially rescuing family and friends.
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μž¬μ •μ μœΌλ‘œ κ°€μ‘±κ³Ό 친ꡬλ₯Ό λ•μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
06:12
They are financially secure,
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그듀은 μž¬μ •μ μœΌλ‘œ μ•ˆμ •λœ μƒνƒœμ΄λ‚˜
06:14
but they live in a state of chronic not-enoughness.
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μ–Έμ œλ‚˜ 돈이 λΆ€μ‘±ν•˜λ‹€κ³  느끼며 μ‚½λ‹ˆλ‹€.
06:20
They drive a Mercedes, but their budget really only can afford a Honda.
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그듀은 λ²€μΈ λ₯Ό λͺ°κ³  λ‹€λ‹ˆμ§€λ§Œ κ·Έλ“€μ˜ μ˜ˆμ‚°μ€ ν˜Όλ‹€μ •λ„λ§Œ μΆ©λ‹Ήν•  수 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
06:28
And they're looking good at every cost.
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그듀은 μ–΄λ– ν•œ κ²½μš°λ“ μ§€ 항상 쒋은 것을 μ°Ύμ§€μš”.
06:32
I know that we can break free from the grips of money shame,
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μš°λ¦¬κ°€ "돈 λ¬Έμ œμ— κ΄€ν•œ μˆ˜μΉ˜μ‹¬"μœΌλ‘œλΆ€ν„° λ²—μ–΄λ‚  수 μžˆλ‹€λŠ” 것을 μ••λ‹ˆλ‹€.
06:36
because I did.
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μ œκ°€ ν•΄λƒˆμœΌλ‹ˆκΉŒμš”.
06:39
Shortly after my brother's death, the Recession hit.
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제 였빠의 죽음 이후 곧 κ²½μ œλΆˆν™©μ΄ μ°Ύμ•„μ™”μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
06:43
I lost my business and faced bankruptcy.
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제 사업은 λ§ν–ˆκ³  μ „ νŒŒμ‚°ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
06:48
Secretly, I was terrified.
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남λͺ°λž˜ μ €λŠ” λ„ˆλ¬΄ λ¬΄μ„œμ› μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
06:53
I stayed in my home for a year, thinking I did something wrong,
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μ €λŠ” μΌλ…„λ™μ•ˆ λ‚΄κ°€ λ­”κ°€λ₯Ό 잘λͺ»ν–ˆκ΅¬λ‚˜ 라고 μƒκ°ν•˜λ©° 집에 λ¨Έλ¬Όλ €μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
06:59
told myself, "What did you do? What happened?"
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제 μžμ‹ μ—κ²Œ λ§ν–ˆμ£ ,"λ„Œ 뭘 ν•œκ±°λ‹ˆ? 무슨 일이 μΌμ–΄λ‚œκ±°μ§€?"
07:03
I stayed silent, while all along, I went outside and smiled.
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μ „ μΉ¨λ¬΅ν–ˆκ³  κ·ΈλŸ¬λŠ” λ™μ•ˆ 밖에 λ‚˜κ°€μ„œ ν‰μ†Œμ²˜λŸΌ λ―Έμ†Œλ₯Ό μ§€μ–΄λ³΄μ˜€μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
07:09
Nobody knew.
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아무도 λͺ°λžμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
이것이 "돈 λ¬Έμ œμ— κ΄€ν•œ μˆ˜μΉ˜μ‹¬"μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
07:11
That's money shame.
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ μ œκ°€ ν•΄μ•Όν–ˆλ˜ 것은 μ˜ˆμ „μ˜ 제 생각을 λ²„λ¦¬λŠ” κ²ƒμ΄μ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
07:14
So what I had to do was let go of the grip that I had
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07:20
on knowing all the answers.
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μ €λŠ” κ°€μ‘± μ€‘μ—μ„œλ„ λ˜‘λ˜‘ν•œ νŽΈμ΄μ§€λ§Œ,
07:22
I was the know-it-all in my family,
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μƒˆλ‘œμš΄ μž¬μ •κ³„νšμ΄ ν•΄λ‹΅μ΄λΌλŠ”
07:25
and I had to give up the idea that a new financial plan
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생각을 포기해야 ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
07:30
was the solution.
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λ”°λΌμ„œ 제 μΈμƒμ˜ λͺ¨λ“  것과 같이, μ €λ₯Ό μœ„ν•΄μ„œ
07:33
And so just like everything in my life, for me,
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도와쀄 μ‚¬λžŒμ΄ μ™”κ³ 
07:38
I was sent a human to help,
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07:42
and I accepted the help,
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κ·Έ 도움을 μˆ˜μš©ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
07:46
but I had to do major self-inquiry
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ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ μ „ μ€‘λŒ€ν•œ μžλ¬Έμ„ ν•΄μ•Όλ§Œ ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
저희 κ°€μ‘±μ˜ μ§€κΈˆκΉŒμ§€μ˜ λˆμ— λŒ€ν•œ 생각과
07:49
about my family's money history
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제 λˆμ— λŒ€ν•œ 신념에 κ΄€ν•œ 자문이죠.
07:52
and my money beliefs.
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07:56
We have to start having this conversation.
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μ €ν¬λŠ” μ΄λŸ¬ν•œ λŒ€ν™”λ₯Ό μ‹œμž‘ν•΄μ•Ό ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
08:00
Money can no longer be a taboo topic.
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λˆμ€ 더 이상 λŒ€ν™”κ°€ κΊΌλ €μ§€λŠ” μ£Όμ œκ°€ λ˜μ–΄μ„  μ•ˆλ©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
08:04
We have to get honest with each other that we're suffering with money issues,
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μ €ν¬λŠ” 돈 문제둜 고톡받고 μžˆλ‹€λŠ” 것을 μ„œλ‘œμ—κ²Œ μ†”μ§ν•˜κ²Œ λ§ν•΄μ•Όν•˜κ³ 
08:10
and let's get real -- we have to stop numbing out our pain.
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μ €ν¬μ˜ 고톡을 μ‚Όν‚€λŠ” 것을 κ·Έλ§Œλ‘κ³  ν˜„μ‹€μ μ΄μ—¬μ•Ό ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
08:16
In order to uncover the painful parts
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돈과 κ΄€λ ¨λœ μ§€κΈˆκ³Ό μ˜ˆμ „μ˜ μ΄μ•ΌκΈ°μ˜
08:19
of your money story and your money history,
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κ³ ν†΅μŠ€λŸ¬μš΄ 뢀뢄을 λ“œλŸ¬λ‚΄κΈ° μœ„ν•΄μ„œλŠ”
κ·Έ 고톡을 λ¬΄μ‹œν•΄μ„  μ•ˆλ©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
08:23
you can't be numb.
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08:25
We have to let go of our past in order to be free.
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μ €ν¬λŠ” μžμœ λ‘œμ›Œ 지기 μœ„ν•΄ κ³Όκ±°λ₯Ό 떨쳐내야 ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
08:32
Letting go of the past happens through surrender,
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κ³Όκ±°λ₯Ό λ–¨μ³λ‚΄λŠ” 과정은 항볡,
08:36
faith and forgiveness.
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믿음 그리고 μš©μ„œλ₯Ό 톡해 μΌμ–΄λ‚©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
08:39
Debt is the tangible manifestation of not forgiving.
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λΉšμ€ μš©μ„œν•˜μ§€ μ•Šμ•˜λ‹€λŠ” 것을 λ“œλŸ¬λ‚΄λŠ” λͺ…λ°±ν•œ μ¦κ±°μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
08:44
If you have debt, you've not completely forgiven your past,
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μ—¬λŸ¬λΆ„μ—κ²Œ 빚이 μžˆλ‹€λ©΄, μ—¬λŸ¬λΆ„ κ³Όκ±°λ₯Ό μ™„μ „νžˆ μš©μ„œν•˜μ§€ λͺ»ν•œ 것이죠.
08:49
so it's our work to forgive ourselves and others
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λ”°λΌμ„œ μžμ‹ κ³Ό 타인을 μš©μ„œν•΄μ•Όλ§Œ
08:52
so that we can live freely.
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μš°λ¦¬κ°€ μžμœ λ‘œμ›Œμ§‘λ‹ˆλ‹€.
08:54
Otherwise, our history will continue to repeat.
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그렇지 μ•ŠμœΌλ©΄, κ³Όμ˜€λŠ” 또 λ‹€μ‹œ 반볡될 κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
08:59
This is not a quick fix, and I know we all want one,
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μ΄λŠ” 우리 λͺ¨λ‘κ°€ λ°”λΌλŠ” κ²ƒκ³ΌλŠ” 달리, μ‰½κ²Œ 고쳐지지 μ•ŠμœΌλ©°,
09:03
but it's a slow wake-up.
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ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ 천천히 μ§„ν–‰λ˜λŠ” 각성이죠.
09:05
This is another level of work.
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이것은 차원이 λ‹€λ₯Έ μˆ˜μ€€μ˜ μž‘μ—…μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
09:08
We have to go higher to get it,
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μš°λ¦¬λŠ” 더 높이 μ˜¬λΌκ°€μ•Ό 이λ₯Ό μ„±μ·¨ν•  수 있고,
09:11
to get at it.
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λ‹€λ‹€λ₯Ό 수 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
κ·ΈλŸ¬λ‹ˆκΉŒ λ‹€μŒκ³Ό 같이 μ‹œλ„ν•΄ λ³΄μ„Έμš”. μ†ŒλΉ„ μŠ΅κ΄€μ„ νŒŒμ•…ν•΄λ³΄μ„Έμš”.
09:14
So try this: follow your dollars.
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09:17
Your money will show you right away what you value.
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λ‹Ήμ‹ μ˜ μ†ŒλΉ„μŠ΅κ΄€μ΄ λ‹Ήμ‹ μ˜ κ°€μΉ˜μžˆκ²Œ μ—¬κΈ°λŠ” 것을 μ•Œλ €μ€„ κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
09:21
Where's it going?
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λˆμ„ 어디에 μ“°κ³  κ³„μ‹ κ°€μš”?
09:22
And then ask yourself: Do I really value all this stuff?
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κ·Έ λ‹€μŒ μžμ‹ μ—κ²Œ λ¬Όμ–΄λ³΄μ„Έμš”. 내이 물건듀이 정말 λ‚˜μ—κ²Œ κ°€μΉ˜μžˆλŠ” 걸까?
09:27
And get curious about what you're feeling when you're spending.
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그리고 μ†ŒλΉ„ν•  λ•Œ λŠλΌλŠ” 감정에 κ΄€ν•΄ μ§ˆλ¬Έμ„ ν•΄λ³΄μ„Έμš”.
09:31
Are you lonely?
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μ™Έλ‘­λ‚˜μš”?
09:33
Are you bored?
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μ§€λ£¨ν•œκ°€μš”?
09:34
Or are you just excited?
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μ•„λ‹ˆλ©΄ 단지 μ‹ λ‚˜λ‚˜μš”?
09:39
But there's deeper work that needs to happen.
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ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ 이보닀 더 깊게 생각해봐야 ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
09:42
How did you get all these money beliefs to begin with?
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μ• μ΄ˆμ— μ΄λŸ¬ν•œ λˆμ— κ΄€ν•œ 신념은 μ–΄λ””μ„œ λΉ„λ‘―λλ‚˜μš”?
09:46
I call this your money autobiography,
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μ €λŠ” 이λ₯Ό λ‹Ήμ‹ μ˜ μ†ŒλΉ„ μžμ„œμ „μ΄λΌκ³  λΆ€λ¦…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
09:49
and as a money coach, this is the first step I take with my clients.
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그리고 μž¬μ • μ½”μΉ˜λ‘œμ„œ μ΄λŠ” μ œκ°€ 고객듀과 ν•¨κ»˜ν•˜λŠ” 첫 단계 μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
09:54
Think back to your earliest childhood money memory.
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어렸을 적 λˆμ— κ΄€ν•œ 기얡을 λ– μ˜¬λ €λ³΄μ„Έμš”.
09:58
What did it feel like when you got money?
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돈이 있으면 μ–΄λ–€ 기뢄이 λ“€μ—ˆλ‚˜μš”?
10:01
Were you excited, proud or confused?
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μ‹ λ‚¬λ‚˜μš”, μžλž‘μŠ€λŸ¬μ› λ‚˜μš” ν˜Ήμ€ ν˜Όλž€μŠ€λŸ¬μ› λ‚˜μš”?
10:06
And what did you do with the money?
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그리고 κ·Έ 돈으둜 무엇을 ν–ˆλ‚˜μš”?
10:08
Did you run with the candy store, or did you run to the bank?
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μ‚¬νƒ•κ°€κ²Œλ‘œ λ‹¬λ €κ°”λ‚˜μš”, μ€ν–‰μœΌλ‘œ λ‹¬λ €κ°”λ‚˜μš”?
10:12
And what did you hear your parents say,
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λΆ€λͺ¨λ‹˜μ΄ μ–΄λ–€ 말을 ν•˜λŠ” 것을 λ“€μ—ˆκ³ 
10:15
and what did you see your parents do with the money?
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λΆ€λͺ¨λ‹˜μ΄ 돈으둜 무엇을 ν•˜λŠ” 것을 λ³΄μ•˜λ‚˜μš”?
10:19
My brother and I heard,
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제 μ˜€λΉ μ™€ μ €λŠ” 이런 말을 λ“€μ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
10:21
"More money will make us happy."
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"돈이 λ§Žμ„μˆ˜λ‘ μš°λ¦¬λŠ” ν–‰λ³΅ν•΄μ§ˆ κ±°μ•Ό."
10:24
Every day.
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λ§€μΌλ§€μΌμ΄μš”.
10:25
"More money will make us happy."
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"돈이 λ§Žμ„μˆ˜λ‘ μš°λ¦¬λŠ” ν–‰λ³΅ν•΄μ§ˆ κ±°μ•Ό."
10:27
And we internalized that into the money belief
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이 말은 μš°λ¦¬μ—κ²Œ λˆμ— κ΄€ν•œ μ‹ λ…μœΌλ‘œ λ‚΄λ©΄ν™”λ˜μ–΄,
10:31
that our self worth was equal to our net worth
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우리의 κ°€μΉ˜κ°€ μžμ‚°μ˜ κ°€μΉ˜μ™€ λ™μΌν•˜λ‹€κ³  λ―Ώμ—ˆκ³ ,
10:35
as we watched our mom live in a state of chronic not-enoughness.
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μ–Έμ œλ‚˜ 뢀쑱함을 느끼며 μ‚΄μ•„κ°€λŠ” μ–΄λ¨Έλ‹ˆμ˜ λͺ¨μŠ΅μ„ 보며 μžλžμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
10:41
And she numbed the pain with sugar and shopping.
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그리고 κ·Έλ…€λŠ” 단 μŒμ‹κ³Ό μ‡Όν•‘μœΌλ‘œ 고톡을 κ²¬λŽŒλƒˆμ£ .
10:46
So what did we do?
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ 저희가 무엇을 ν–ˆλƒκ³ μš”?
10:48
Keith played out my mother's life.
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ν‚€μ΄μŠ€λŠ” 제 μ—„λ§ˆμ˜ 삢을 κ·ΈλŒ€λ‘œ λ¬Όλ €λ°›μ•˜μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
10:51
He was an underearner, longed to be financially rescued,
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μ˜€λΉ λŠ” μˆ˜μž…μ΄ μ μ—ˆμœΌλ©°, 경제적인 도움을 λ°›κΈΈ μ›ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
10:55
and he numbed out the pain with alcohol.
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λ˜ν•œ 고톡을 술둜 κ²¬λŽŒλƒˆμ£ .
μ €λŠ” μ •λ°˜λŒ€μ˜ 삢을 μ‚΄μ•˜μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
10:59
I did the opposite.
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11:01
I became a high earner,
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μ €λŠ” μˆ˜μž…μ΄ λ§Žμ•˜κ³ 
11:03
rescuer,
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남을 λ„μ™€μ€¬μœΌλ©°
11:06
and I numbed the pain out with self-help books.
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고톡을 μžκΈ°κ³„λ°œμ„œλ‘œ κ²¬λŽŒλƒˆμ£ .
11:11
But what we had in common was our money belief.
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κ·ΈλŸ¬λ‚˜ μ €ν¬λŠ” 곡톡적인 λˆμ— κ΄€ν•œ 신념을 κ°€μ‘ŒμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
11:14
We both believed that our bank account balance
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저희 λ‘˜μ€ 톡μž₯μž”κ³ κ°€
11:17
was equal to our self worth.
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슀슀둜의 κ°€μΉ˜μ™€ λ™λ“±ν•˜λ‹€κ³  λ―Ώμ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
11:20
Looking back at the Starbucks meeting with my brother ...
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μŠ€νƒ€λ²…μŠ€μ—μ„œ μ˜€λΉ λž‘ λ§Œλ‚¬μ„ λ•Œλ₯Ό λ– μ˜¬λ €λ³΄λ©΄
11:25
he didn't need a budget and my judgment.
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κ·ΈλŠ” μ˜ˆμ‚°μ•ˆμ΄λ‚˜ 제 λΉ„λ‚œμ„ ν•„μš”λ‘œ ν•˜μ§€ μ•Šμ•˜μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
11:29
He needed a breakthrough from his suffering,
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κ·ΈλŠ” κ³ ν†΅μœΌλ‘œλΆ€ν„° λ²—μ–΄λ‚  λŒνŒŒκ΅¬κ°€ ν•„μš”ν–ˆκ³ ,
11:32
and he needed my compassion.
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제 동정이 ν•„μš”ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
ν‚€μ΄μŠ€λŠ” μ•žμœΌλ‘œ λ‹Ήλ‹Ήνžˆ λ‚˜μ™€μ„œ λˆλ¬Έμ œμ— κ΄€ν•œ μˆ˜μΉ˜μ‹¬μ„
11:36
Keith was not able to be the one to speak up
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11:38
and break our family money shame cycle,
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κΉ° 수 μžˆλŠ” μ‚¬λžŒμ΄ μ•„λ‹ˆμ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
11:41
so he left me to do the work and share his legacy.
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ κ·ΈλŠ” 제게 과제λ₯Ό 남기고 μ΄λŸ¬ν•œ κ΅ν›ˆμ„ μœ μ‚°μœΌλ‘œ λ‚¨κ²ΌμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
11:46
Change is difficult,
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λ³€ν™”λŠ” μ–΄λ ΅μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
11:49
but in my family, not changing is fatal.
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ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ 저희 κ°€μ‘±μ•ˆμ—μ„œ λ³€ν™”κ°€ μ—†λŠ” 것은 치λͺ…μ μ΄μ˜€μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
11:54
So I did the work,
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ μ €λŠ” 이 과제λ₯Ό 맑아,
11:56
and I have experienced deep and profound forgiveness,
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깊고 μ‹¬μ˜€ν•œ μš©μ„œλ₯Ό κ²½ν—˜ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
12:03
and as I stand here today,
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그리고 μ œκ°€ 였늘 μ—¬κΈ° μ„œμžˆλŠ” κ²ƒμ²˜λŸΌ
12:05
I am living on purpose,
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μ €λŠ” 인생에 λͺ©ν‘œκ°€ 있으며,
12:09
I serve, and money serves me.
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λˆμ„ λ²Œμ§€λ§Œ, λˆμ— μ˜ν•΄ μ’Œμš°λ˜μ§€ μ•ŠμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
12:13
It only takes one person in your family
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κ°€μ‘± 쀑 단 ν•œ μ‚¬λžŒλ§Œμ΄λΌλ„ λ…Έλ ₯ν•œλ‹€λ©΄,
κ°€μ‘± λ‚΄ 돈 λ¬Έμ œμ— κ΄€ν•œ μˆ˜μΉ˜μ‹¬μ˜ μ•…μˆœν™˜μ„ κΉ° 수 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
12:18
to break through the money-shame cycle.
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12:21
I want you to be the one.
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μ €λŠ” μ—¬λŸ¬λΆ„μ΄ 이런 μ‚¬λžŒμ΄ 되기λ₯Ό λ°”λžλ‹ˆλ‹€.
12:24
Thank you.
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κ°μ‚¬ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
12:25
(Applause)
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