Paola Antonelli: Treating design as art

40,936 views ใƒป 2008-01-22

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ืื ื ืœื—ืฅ ืคืขืžื™ื™ื ืขืœ ื”ื›ืชื•ื‘ื™ื•ืช ื‘ืื ื’ืœื™ืช ืœืžื˜ื” ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ืคืขื™ืœ ืืช ื”ืกืจื˜ื•ืŸ.

ืžืชืจื’ื: Ido Dekkers ืžื‘ืงืจ: Nir Bibi
00:12
Those of us who believe in heaven have some sort of idea of what heaven would be.
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ืœืืœื” ืžืื™ืชื ื• ืฉืžืืžื™ื ื™ื ื‘ื’ืŸ ืขื“ืŸ ื™ืฉ ืžื•ืฉื’ ื›ืœืฉื”ื• ืฉืœ ืื™ืš ื’ืŸ ืขื“ืŸ ื ืจืื”.
00:16
And in my idea, heaven is satisfied curiosity.
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ื•ืœื“ืขืชื™, ื’ืŸ ืขื“ืŸ ื”ื•ื ืกืงืจื ื•ืช ืžืกื•ืคืงืช.
00:19
I think of heaven as a really comfortable cloud
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ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ืช ืขืœ ื’ืŸ ืขื“ืŸ ื›ืขื ืŸ ืžืžืฉ ื ื•ื—
00:22
where I can just lie down with my belly down,
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ืขืœื™ื• ืื ื™ ื™ื›ื•ืœื” ืคืฉื•ื˜ ืœืฉื›ื‘ ืขืœ ื”ื‘ื˜ืŸ,
00:24
like I was watching TV when I was a child, and my elbows up.
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ื›ืžื• ืฉืจืื™ืชื™ ื˜ืœื•ื•ื™ื–ื™ื” ื›ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื™ืœื“ื”, ืขื ื”ืžืจืคืงื™ื ืœืžืขืœื”.
00:28
And I can basically look everywhere I want,
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ื•ืื ื™ ื™ื›ื•ืœื” ื‘ืขื™ืงืจื•ืŸ ืœื”ืกืชื›ืœ ืœื›ืœ ืžืงื•ื ืฉืืจืฆื”,
00:31
see every movie I've always wanted to see.
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ืœืจืื•ืช ื›ืœ ืกืจื˜ ืฉืชืžื™ื“ ืจืฆื™ืชื™ ืœืจืื•ืช.
00:33
And in the same kind of trance that you can feel sometimes
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ื•ื‘ืื•ืชื• ืกื•ื’ ืฉืœ ื˜ืจืื ืก ืฉืืชื ื™ื›ื•ืœื™ื ืœื”ืจื’ื™ืฉ ืœืคืขืžื™ื
00:37
in the subway in New York when you're reading,
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ื‘ืจื›ื‘ืช ื”ืชื—ืชื™ืช ืฉืœ ื ื™ื• ื™ื•ืจืง ื›ืฉืืชื ืงื•ืจืื™ื,
00:38
there's something really soothing and easy.
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ื™ืฉ ืžืฉื”ื• ืžืžืฉ ืžืจื’ื™ืข ื•ืงืœ.
00:40
Well, the funny thing is that I already have that kind of life, in a way,
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ื•ื‘ื›ืŸ, ื”ื“ื‘ืจ ื”ืžืฆื—ื™ืง ื”ื•ื ืฉื™ืฉ ืœื™ ืืช ืกื•ื’ ื”ื—ื™ื™ื ื”ื–ื”, ื‘ืฆื•ืจื” ืžืกื•ื™ื™ืžืช,
00:44
because I discovered ...
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ืžืคื ื™ ืฉื’ื™ืœื™ืชื™...
00:47
it took me a while to understand it,
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ืœืงื— ืœื™ ืงืฆืช ื–ืžืŸ ืœื”ื‘ื™ืŸ ืืช ื–ื”,
00:48
but when I discovered around 24 years of age that I was much more comfortable
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ืื‘ืœ ื›ืฉื’ื™ืœื™ืชื™ ื‘ืกื‘ื™ื‘ื•ืช ื’ื™ืœ 24 ืฉื”ื™ื” ืœื™ ื ื•ื— ื‘ื”ืจื‘ื”
00:53
with objects than with people, I finally decided to really embrace this passion.
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ืขื ืขืฆืžื™ื ืžืืฉืจ ืขื ืื ืฉื™ื, ืื ื™ ื”ื—ืœื˜ืชื™ ื‘ืกื•ืคื• ืฉืœ ื“ื‘ืจ ืœื—ื‘ืง ืืช ื”ืชืฉื•ืงื” ื”ื–ื•.
00:59
And I basically live my life in sort of a trance,
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ื•ืื ื™ ื‘ืขื™ืงืจื•ืŸ ื—ื™ื” ืืช ื—ื™ื™ ื‘ืกื•ื’ ืฉืœ ื˜ืจืื ืก,
01:01
and I look around and everything I see is just the beginning of a long story.
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ื•ืื ื™ ืžื‘ื™ื˜ื” ืกื‘ื™ื‘ื™ ื•ื›ืœ ืžื” ืฉืื ื™ ืจื•ืื” ื–ื” ืจืง ื”ื”ืชื—ืœื” ืฉืœ ืกื™ืคื•ืจ ืืจื•ืš.
01:06
Just to give you an example:
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ืจืง ื›ื“ื™ ืœืชืช ืœื›ื ื“ื•ื’ืžื”:
01:08
this is the exhibition, Humble Masterpieces, as it was at MoMA in 2004.
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ื–ื• ืชืขืจื•ื›ื”, ื™ืฆื™ืจื•ืช ืžื•ืคืช ืฆื ื•ืขื•ืช, ื›ืžื• ืฉื”ื™ื ื”ื™ืชื” ื‘MoMA ื‘ 2004.
01:13
We were in Queens,
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ื”ื™ื™ื ื• ื‘ืงื•ื•ื™ื ืก,
01:14
we were building the big, big, big, big building in Midtown,
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ื‘ื ื™ื ื• ืืช ื”ื‘ื ื™ื™ืŸ ื”ืžืžืฉ, ืžืžืฉ, ืžืžืฉ ื’ื“ื•ืœ ื‘ืžืจื›ื– ื”ืขื™ืจ,
01:17
so we were in the small, small, small boondocks.
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ืื– ื”ื™ื™ื ื• ื‘ืื–ื•ืจ ื”ื›ืคืจื™ ื”ืžืžืฉ, ืžืžืฉ ืงื˜ืŸ.
01:19
That was one of the funnest moments of my career.
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ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืื—ื“ ื”ืจื’ืขื™ื ื”ื›ื™ ื›ื™ืคื™ื™ื ื‘ืงืจื™ื™ืจื” ืฉืœื™.
01:23
But it's not only that.
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ืื‘ืœ ื–ื” ืœื ืจืง ื–ื”.
01:24
The typeface -- the typeface is Helvetica;
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ื”ืคื•ื ื˜ -- ื”ืคื•ื ื˜ ื”ื•ื ื”ืœื‘ื˜ื™ืงื”;
01:26
it's its 50th anniversary this year.
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ื–ื” ื™ื•ื ื”ืฉื ื” ื”50 ืฉืœื•.
01:29
And so I start thinking -- Max Miedinger and all those Swiss designers together,
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ื•ื›ืš ื”ืชื—ืœืชื™ ืœื—ืฉื•ื‘ -- ืžืงืก ืžื™ื™ื“ื™ื ื’ืจ ื•ื›ืœ ืื•ืชื ืžืขืฆื‘ื™ื ืฉื•ื•ื™ืฆืจื™ื ื‘ื™ื—ื“,
01:33
trying to outdo Akzidenz-Grotesk, and come up with a new sans-serif typeface --
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ืžื ืกื™ื ืœื”ืชืขืœื•ืช ืขืœ ืืงื–ื™ื“ื ืก-ื’ืจื•ื˜ืกืง, ื•ืœื”ืžืฆื™ื ืคื•ื ื˜ ืกื ืก-ืกืจื™ืฃ ื—ื“ืฉ --
01:38
and the movie starts playing in my head already.
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ื•ื”ืกืจื˜ ื›ื‘ืจ ืžืชื—ื™ืœ ืœืจื•ืฅ ื‘ืจืืฉ ืฉืœื™.
01:41
And of course, you can imagine, with Humble Masterpieces
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ื•ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ, ืืชื ื™ื›ื•ืœื™ื ืœื“ืžื™ื™ืŸ, ืขื ื™ืฆื™ืจื•ืช ืžื•ืคืช ืฆื ื•ืขื•ืช
01:44
it was the same thing multiplied by a hundred.
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ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืื•ืชื• ื”ื“ื‘ืจ ื›ืคื•ืœ ืžืื”.
01:47
And I do hope, by the way, that the real goal of the exhibition
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ื•ืื ื™ ืžืงื•ื•ื”, ื“ืจืš ืื’ื‘, ืฉืœืžื˜ืจื” ื”ืืžื™ืชื™ืช ืฉืœ ื”ืชืฆื•ื’ื”
01:50
is going to have the same effect on you.
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ืชื”ื™ื” ืืช ืื•ืชื” ื”ืฉืคืขื” ืขืœื™ื›ื.
01:52
The exhibition was meant to be a way to have children think of doing ...
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ื”ืชืฆื•ื’ื” ื”ื™ืชื” ืืžื•ืจื” ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ื“ืจืš ืฉื™ืœื“ื™ื ื™ื—ืฉื‘ื• ืœืขืฉื•ืช...
01:58
you know when they do homeworks at home?
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ืืชื ื™ื•ื“ืขื™ื ื›ืฉื”ื ืขื•ืฉื™ื ืฉื™ืขื•ืจื™ื ื‘ื‘ื™ืช?
02:00
Instead of having a tray with two peas, I was hoping that they would go
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ื‘ืžืงื•ื ืฉื™ื”ื™ื” ืžื’ืฉ ืขื ืฉื ื™ ืืคื•ื ื™ื, ืงื™ื•ื•ืชื™ ืฉื”ื ื™ืœื›ื•
02:03
into the kitchen cabinet or the mother's handbag
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ืœืืจื•ืŸ ื”ืžื˜ื‘ื— ืื• ืœืชื™ืง ืฉืœ ืืžื
02:06
and do their museum-quality design collection on a tray.
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ื•ื™ืขืฉื• ืืช ืื•ืกืฃ ื”ืขื™ืฆื•ื‘ื™ื ื‘ืื™ื›ื•ืช ืžื•ื–ืื•ื ื™ืช ืขืœ ืžื’ืฉ.
02:10
So, everybody's always suggesting new humble masterpieces,
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ืื–, ื›ื•ืœื ืชืžื™ื“ ืžืฆื™ืขื™ื ื™ืฆื™ืจื•ืช ืžื•ืคืช ืฆื ื•ืขื•ืช,
02:14
and at MoMA we put out some books
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ื•ื‘MoMA ืื ื—ื ื• ืฉืžื ื• ื›ืžื” ืกืคืจื™ื
02:15
just for people to suggest their own humble masterpieces.
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ืจืง ืœืื ืฉื™ื ืฉื™ืฆื™ืขื• ืืช ื™ืฆื™ืจื•ืช ื”ืžื•ืคืช ื”ืฆื ื•ืขื•ืช ืฉืœื”ื.
02:19
And when you do that, usually you get 80 percent porn and 20 percent real suggestions,
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ื•ื›ืฉืืชื ืขื•ืฉื™ื ืืช ื–ื”, ื‘ื“ืจืš ื›ืœืœ 80 ืื—ื•ื– ืคื•ืจื ื• ื•20 ืื—ื•ื– ื”ืฆืขื•ืช ืืžื™ืชื™ื•ืช,
02:24
and instead it was all -- almost -- all good suggestions.
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ื•ื‘ืžืงื•ื ื–ื” ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื”ื›ืœ -- ื›ืžืขื˜ ื”ื›ืœ -- ื”ื›ืœ ื”ืฆืขื•ืช ื˜ื•ื‘ื•ืช.
02:29
And a lot of nationalism came in.
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ื•ื”ืจื‘ื” ืœืื•ืžื ื•ืช ื”ื’ื™ืขื”.
02:31
For instance, I didn't know that the Spaniards invented the mop,
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ืœื“ื•ื’ืžื”, ืœื ื™ื“ืขืชื™ ืฉืกืคืจื“ื™ื ื”ืžืฆื™ืื• ืืช ื”ืกื—ื‘ื”,
02:35
but they were very proud
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ืื‘ืœ ื”ื ื”ื™ื• ืžืžืฉ ื’ืื™ื
02:36
so every Spaniard said "la frego." And Italians did the pizza.
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ืื– ื›ืœ ืกืคืจื“ื™ ืืžืจ "la frego." ื•ื›ืœ ืื™ื˜ืœืงื™ ืขืฉื” ืืช ื”ืคื™ืฆื”.
02:39
And I wanted to show you, also, the suggestions from Kentucky are pretty good --
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ื•ืจืฆื™ืชื™ ืœื”ืจืื•ืช ืœื›ื, ื’ื, ื”ื”ืฆืขื•ืช ืžืงื ื˜ืงื™ ื”ื™ื• ื“ื™ ื˜ื•ื‘ื•ืช --
02:43
they had moonshine, laundry detergents and liquid nails.
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ื”ื™ื” ืœื”ื ืื•ืจ ื™ืจื—, ืกื‘ื•ืŸ ื›ื‘ื™ืกื” ื•ืฆื™ืคื•ืจื ื™ื™ื ื ื•ื–ืœื™ื•ืช.
02:46
And I keep it going, and I just got,
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ื•ื”ืžืฉื›ืชื™ ืืช ื–ื”, ื•ืจืง ืงื™ื‘ืœืชื™,
02:47
(Laughter)
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(ืฆื—ื•ืง)
02:48
also, this suggestion from Milan:
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ื’ื, ืืช ื”ื”ืฆืขื” ืžืžื™ืœืื ื•:
02:51
it's our traffic divider, which we call "panettone," and it's painted;
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ื–ื• ื’ื“ืจ ื”ื”ืคืจื“ื” ื‘ื›ื‘ื™ืฉ, ืฉืื ื—ื ื• ืงื•ืจืื™ื ืœื” "panettone," ื•ื”ื™ื ืฆื‘ื•ืขื”;
02:56
it's these beautiful concrete things that you use around Milan
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ื–ื” ื”ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื”ื™ืคื™ืคื™ื™ื ื”ืืœื” ืžื‘ื˜ื•ืŸ ืฉืžืฉืชืžืฉื™ื ื‘ื”ื ืžืกื‘ื™ื‘ ืœืžื™ืœื ื•
03:00
to define all the lanes of traffic.
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ืฉืžื’ื“ื™ืจื™ื ืืช ื›ืœ ื ืชื™ื‘ื™ ื”ืชื ื•ืขื”.
03:02
So, think of your own,
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ืื–, ืชื—ืฉื‘ื• ืขืœ ืฉืœื›ื,
03:03
send them on if you want to -- they're always welcome.
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ืชืฉืœื—ื• ืื•ืชื ืืœื™ื ื• ืื ืชืจืฆื• -- ืชืžื™ื“ ื ืงื‘ืœ ืื•ืชื ื‘ื‘ืจื›ื”.
03:06
But an exhibition like that made me understand even more
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ืื‘ืœ ืชืขืจื•ื›ื” ื›ืžื• ื–ื• ื’ืจืžื” ืœื™ ืœื”ื‘ื™ืŸ ืืคื™ืœื• ื™ื•ืชืจ
03:11
what I've been thinking of for 13 years ever since I got to MoMA.
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ืขืœ ืžื” ื—ืฉื‘ืชื™ 13 ืฉื ื™ื ืžืื– ืฉื”ื’ืขืชื™ ืœMoMA.
03:15
I'm Italian. In Italy, design is normal.
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ืื ื™ ืื™ื˜ืœืงื™ืช. ื‘ืื™ื˜ืœื™ื” ืขื™ืฆื•ื‘ ื”ื•ื ื ื•ืจืžืœื™.
03:18
Different parts of the world have a knack for different things.
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ืœืื–ื•ืจื™ื ืฉื•ื ื™ื ืฉืœ ื”ืขื•ืœื ื™ืฉ ื›ื™ืฉืจื•ืŸ ืœื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืฉื•ื ื™ื.
03:22
I was just recently in Argentina and in Uruguay,
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ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืœืื—ืจื•ื ื” ื‘ืืจื’ื ื˜ื™ื ื” ื•ืื•ืจื•ื’ื•ื•ืื™,
03:26
and the default way of building homes in the country is a beautiful modernism
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ื•ื”ื“ืจืš ื”ืจื’ื™ืœื” ืœื‘ื ื™ื™ืช ื‘ืชื™ื ื‘ืžื“ื™ื ื” ื”ื•ื ืžื•ื“ืจื ื™ื–ื ื™ืคื”ืคื”
03:32
that you don't see elsewhere, but the contemporary art was terrible.
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ืฉืืชื ืœื ืจื•ืื™ื ื‘ืžืงื•ืžื•ืช ืื—ืจื™ื, ืื‘ืœ ื”ืืžื ื•ืช ื”ืžื•ื“ืจื ื™ืช ื”ื™ืชื” ื ื•ืจืื™ืช.
03:36
In Italy, in Milan especially,
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ื‘ืื™ื˜ืœื™ื”, ื‘ืขื™ืงืจ ื‘ืžื™ืœืื ื•,
03:38
contemporary art really doesn't have that much of a place.
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ืœืืžื ื•ืช ืžื•ื“ืจื ื™ืช ืื™ืŸ ืžืžืฉ ืžืงื•ื.
03:42
But design -- oh, my God.
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ืื‘ืœ ืขื™ืฆื•ื‘ -- ืื•ื™, ืืœื•ื”ื™ื.
03:43
What you find at the store at the corner, without going to any kind of fancy store,
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ืžื” ืฉืืชื ืžื•ืฆืื™ื ื‘ื—ื ื•ืช ืคื™ื ืชื™ืช, ื‘ืœื™ ืœืœื›ืช ืœืื™ื–ื” ื—ื ื•ืช ืžืคื•ืืจืช,
03:48
is the kind of refined design that makes everybody think that
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ื”ื•ื ืกื•ื’ ืฉืœ ืขื™ืฆื•ื‘ ืžื”ื•ืงืฆืข ืฉื’ื•ืจื ืœื›ื•ืœื ืœื—ืฉื•ื‘
03:50
we are all so sophisticated.
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ืฉืื ื—ื ื• ื›ืœ ื›ืš ืžืชื•ื—ื›ืžื™ื.
03:52
It's just what you find at the store.
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ื–ื” ืคืฉื•ื˜ ืžื” ืฉืืชื ืžื•ืฆืื™ื ื‘ื—ื ื•ืช ื”ื”ื™ื.
03:54
And New York has another kind of knack for contemporary art.
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ื•ืœื ื™ื• ื™ื•ืจืง ื™ืฉ ื›ื™ืฉืจื•ืŸ ืื—ืจ ืœืืžื ื•ืช ืžื•ื“ืจื ื™ืช.
03:59
I'm always amazed -- three-year-olds know who Richard Serra is
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ืื ื™ ืชืžื™ื“ ื ื“ื”ืžืช -- ื‘ื ื™ ืฉืœื•ืฉ ื™ื•ื“ืขื™ื ืžื™ ื–ื” ืจื™ืฆ'ืืจื“ ืกืจื”
04:04
and take you to the galleries.
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ื•ืœื•ืงื—ื™ื ืืชื›ื ืœื’ืœืจื™ื•ืช.
04:06
But design, for some reason, is still misunderstood for decoration.
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ืื‘ืœ ืขื™ืฆื•ื‘, ืžืฉื•ื ืžื”, ืขื“ื™ื™ืŸ ื ืชืคืฉ ื‘ื˜ืขื•ืช ื›ืขื™ืฆื•ื‘ ืคื ื™ื.
04:10
It's really interesting:
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ื–ื” ืžืžืฉ ืžืขื ื™ื™ืŸ:
04:12
what many people think when I say the word "design" is they think of
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ืžื” ืฉื”ืจื‘ื” ืื ืฉื™ื ื—ื•ืฉื‘ื™ื ื›ืฉืื ื™ ืื•ืžืจืช ืืช ื”ืžื™ืœื” "ืขื™ืฆื•ื‘" ื–ื” ืฉื”ื ื—ื•ืฉื‘ื™ื ืขืœ
04:16
this kind of overdesigned -- in this case, it's overdesigned on purpose, but --
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ืกื•ื’ ื›ื–ื” ืฉืœ ืขื™ืฆื•ื‘ ื™ืชืจ -- ื‘ืžืงืจื” ื”ื–ื”, ืžืขื•ืฆื‘ ื™ืชืจ ืขืœ ื”ืžื™ื“ื” ื‘ื›ื•ื•ื ื”, ืื‘ืœ --
04:21
decoration, interior decoration.
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ืขื™ืฆื•ื‘, ืขื™ืฆื•ื‘ ืคื ื™ื.
04:23
They think of somebody choosing fabrics.
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ื”ื ื—ื•ืฉื‘ื™ื ืขืœ ืžื™ืฉื”ื• ื‘ื•ื—ืจ ื‘ื“ื™ื.
04:25
Design can be that, of course, but it can also be this.
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ืขื™ืฆื•ื‘ ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ื–ื”, ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื•ื ื™ื›ื•ืœ ื’ื ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ื–ื”.
04:29
It can be a school of design in Jerusalem that tries to find a better way
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ื”ื•ื ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ื‘ื™ืช ืกืคืจ ืœืขื™ืฆื•ื‘ ื‘ื™ืจื•ืฉืœื™ื ืฉืžื ืกื” ืœืžืฆื•ื ื“ืจืš ื˜ื•ื‘ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ
04:34
to design gas masks for people,
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ืœืขืฆื‘ ืžืกื›ื•ืช ืื‘"ื› ืœืื ืฉื™ื,
04:35
because, as you know, Israel deploys one gas mask per person including babies.
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ืžืคื ื™, ืฉื›ืžื• ืฉืืชื ื™ื•ื“ืขื™ื, ื™ืฉืจืืœ ืžื—ืœืงืช ืžืกื›ืช ื’ื– ืœื›ืœ ื”ืื ืฉื™ื ื›ื•ืœืœ ืชื™ื ื•ืงื•ืช.
04:41
So, what these designers do is they find a way to lower the neckline,
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ืื–, ืžื” ืฉื”ืžืขืฆื‘ื™ื ื”ืืœื” ืขื•ืฉื™ื ื”ื•ื ืœืžืฆื•ื ื“ืจืš ืœื”ื ืžื™ืš ืืช ืงื• ื”ืฆื•ื•ืืจ,
04:46
so that instead of being completely strangled, a teenager can also sip a Coke.
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ื›ืš ืฉื‘ืžืงื•ื ืœื”ื—ื ืง ืœื’ืžืจื™, ื‘ืŸ ืขืฉืจื” ื™ื›ื•ืœ ื’ื ืœืœื’ื•ื ืงื•ืœื”.
04:52
They tried to make a toddler's gas mask in such a way that the toddler
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ื”ื ื ื™ืกื• ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืžืกื›ื” ืœืคืขื•ื˜ื•ืช ื‘ืฆื•ืจื” ื›ื–ื• ืฉืคืขื•ื˜
04:58
can be held by the parent because proximity of the body is so important.
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ื™ื•ื›ืœ ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืžื•ื—ื–ืง ืขืœ ื™ื“ื™ ื”ื”ื•ืจื” ืžืคื ื™ ืฉืงื™ืจื‘ื” ืฉืœ ื”ื’ื•ืฃ ื›ืœ ื›ืš ื—ืฉื•ื‘ื”.
05:03
And then they make a little tent for the baby.
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ื•ืื– ื”ื ื™ื•ืฆืจื™ื ืื•ื”ืœ ืงื˜ืŸ ืœืชื™ื ื•ืง.
05:04
However cruel, however ruthless you can think this is it's a great design,
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ื›ืžื” ืฉื–ื” ืื›ื–ืจื™, ื›ืžื” ื—ืกืจ ืจื—ืžื™ื ืฉืืชื ื—ื•ืฉื‘ื™ื ืฉื–ื”, ื–ื” ืขื™ืฆื•ื‘ ื ืคืœื,
05:10
and it is miles away from the fancy furniture,
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ื•ื–ื” ืžืจื—ืง ืฉื ื•ืช ืื•ืจ ืžืจื”ื™ื˜ื™ื ืžืคื•ืืจื™ื,
05:14
but still, it's part of my same field of passion.
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ืื‘ืœ ืขื“ื™ื™ืŸ, ื–ื” ืฉื™ื™ืš ืœืื•ืชื• ืฉื“ื” ืฉืœ ืชืฉื•ืงื”.
05:17
What I've been doing at MoMA since the beginning is to try to
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ืžื” ืฉืขืฉื™ืชื™ ื‘MoMA ืžื”ื”ืชื—ืœื” ื–ื” ืœื ืกื•ืช
05:22
harness the power of MoMA
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ืœืจืชื•ื ืืช ื”ื›ื•ื— ืฉืœ MoMA
05:24
because it's great to work there. You really have power
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ืžืคื ื™ ืฉื–ื” ื ืคืœื ืœืขื‘ื•ื“ ืฉื. ื‘ืืžืช ื™ืฉ ืœื›ื ืืช ื”ื›ื•ื—
05:27
in that people usually tend to know about your exhibition or see the exhibitions,
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ื‘ื–ื” ืฉืื ืฉื™ื ื‘ื“ืจืš ื›ืœืœ ื™ื•ื“ืขื™ื ืขืœ ื”ืชืขืจื•ื›ื” ืฉืœื›ื ืื• ืจื•ืื™ื ืืช ื”ืชืขืจื•ื›ื•ืช ืฉืœื›ื,
05:32
and that is power because in a design museum I wouldn't have as many visitors.
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ื•ื–ื” ื›ื•ื— ืžืคื ื™ ืฉื‘ืžื•ื–ืื•ืŸ ืœืขื™ืฆื•ื‘ ืœื ื”ื™ื• ืœื™ ื›ืœ ื›ืš ื”ืจื‘ื” ืžื‘ืงืจื™ื.
05:37
I'm very well aware that 80 percent of my public is there to see Picasso and Matisse,
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ืื ื™ ืžื•ื“ืขืช ื”ื™ื˜ื‘ ืœืขื•ื‘ื“ื” ืฉ80 ืื—ื•ื– ืžื”ืงื”ืœ ืฉืœื™ ื‘ื ื›ื“ื™ ืœืจืื•ืช ืืช ืคื™ืงืืกื• ื•ืžื˜ื™ืก,
05:42
and then they stumble upon my show and I keep them there.
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ื•ืื– ื”ื ื ืชืงืœื™ื ื‘ืžืงืจื” ื‘ืชืขืจื•ื›ื” ืฉืœื™ ื•ืื ื™ ืžืฉืื™ืจื” ืื•ืชื ืฉื.
05:45
But what I've been trying to do is something that the curators at MoMA
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ืื‘ืœ ืžื” ืฉื ื™ืกื™ืชื™ ืœืขืฉื•ืช ื–ื” ืžืฉื”ื• ืฉื”ืื•ืฆืจื™ื ื‘MoMA
05:48
in my department have been doing ever since the museum was founded in 1929,
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ื‘ืžื—ืœืงื” ืฉืœื™ ืขืฉื• ืžืื– ืฉื”ืžื•ื–ื™ืื•ืŸ ื ื•ืกื“ ื‘ 1929,
05:52
which is to try and see what's going on in the world
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ื•ื–ื” ืœื ืกื•ืช ื•ืœืจืื•ืช ืžื” ืงื•ืจื” ื‘ืขื•ืœื
05:55
and try to use that authority in order to make things better.
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ื•ืœื ืกื•ืช ืœื”ืฉืชืžืฉ ื‘ืกืžื›ื•ืชื™ื•ืช ื”ื–ื• ื›ื“ื™ ืœืขืฉื•ืช ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื˜ื•ื‘ื™ื ื™ื•ืชืจ.
05:59
There have been many episodes,
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ื”ื™ื• ื”ืจื‘ื” ืคืจืงื™ื,
06:02
and actually Eames Demetrius may be here in the audience,
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ื•ืœืžืขืฉื” ืื™ืžืก ื“ืžื˜ืจื™ื•ืก ืื•ืœื™ ืคื” ื‘ืงื”ืœ,
06:04
but in two instances, his great-grandfather, grandfather --
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ืื‘ืœ ื‘ืฉื ื™ ืžืงืจื™ื, ืื‘ื™ ืกื‘ื•, ืกื‘ื• --
06:09
I'm always a little perplexed about the relation, exactly --
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ืื ื™ ืชืžื™ื“ ืžืชื‘ืœื‘ืœืช ื‘ืงืฉืจ ืœื™ื—ืก ื‘ื“ื™ื•ืง --
06:14
Charles Eames the first time and then Charles and Ray Eames the second time
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ืฆ'ืืจืœืก ืื™ืžืก ื‘ืคืขื ื”ืจืืฉื•ื ื” ื•ืื– ืฆ'ืืจืœืก ื•ืจื™ื™ ืื™ืžืก ื‘ืคืขื ื”ืฉื ื™ื”
06:18
were involved in two competitions:
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ื”ื™ื• ืžืขื•ืจื‘ื™ื ื‘ืฉืชื™ ืชื—ืจื•ื™ื•ืช:
06:20
one in 1940, it was about organic furniture, and the second one in 1948
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ืื—ืช ื‘ 1940, ืฉื”ื™ืชื” ื‘ื ื•ืฉื ืจื”ื™ื˜ื™ื ืื•ืจื’ื ื™ื™ื, ื•ื”ืฉื ื™ื” ื‘1948
06:25
was low-cost furniture for the GIs coming back from the war
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ื”ื™ืชื” ื‘ื ื•ืฉื ืจื”ื™ื˜ื™ื ื–ื•ืœื™ื ืœื—ื™ื™ืœื™ื ืฉื—ื–ืจื• ืžื”ืžืœื—ืžื”
06:29
that then sparked a whole line of furniture.
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ืฉืื– ื”ืชื—ื™ืœื” ืœื™ื™ืŸ ืฉืœื ืฉืœ ืจื”ื™ื˜ื™ื.
06:32
And then there was good design for very low price.
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ื•ืื– ื”ื™ื” ืขื™ืฆื•ื‘ ื˜ื•ื‘ ืœื›ืœ ืžื—ื™ืจ.
06:37
There were a lot of programs in architecture and design that were about
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ื”ื™ื• ื”ืจื‘ื” ืชื•ื›ื ื™ื•ืช ื‘ืืจื›ื™ื˜ืงื˜ื•ืจื” ื•ืขื™ืฆื•ื‘ ืฉืขืกืงื•
06:41
pointing people in the direction of a better design for a better life.
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ื‘ื”ืคื ื™ื™ืช ืื ืฉื™ื ืœื›ื™ื•ื•ืŸ ืฉืœ ืขื™ืฆื•ื‘ ื˜ื•ื‘ ื™ื•ืชืจ ืœื—ื™ื™ื ื˜ื•ื‘ื™ื ื™ื•ืชืจ.
06:47
So, I started out in '95 with this exhibition that was called
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ืื–, ื”ืชื—ืœืชื™ ื‘95 ืขื ืชืฆื•ื’ื” ืฉื ืงืจืื”
06:50
Mutant Materials in Contemporary Design.
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ื—ื•ืžืจื™ื ืžื•ื˜ื ื˜ื™ื™ื ื‘ืขื™ืฆื•ื‘ ืžื•ื“ืจื ื™.
06:52
It was about a new phase, in my opinion, in the world of design
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ื”ื™ื ื”ื™ืชื” ืขืœ ืฉืœื‘ ื—ื“ืฉ, ืœื“ืขืชื™, ื‘ืขื•ืœื ื”ืขื™ืฆื•ื‘
06:56
in that materials could be customized by the designers themselves.
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ื‘ื–ื” ืฉื—ื•ืžืจื™ื ื™ื›ืœื• ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืžื•ืชืืžื™ื ืขืœ ื™ื“ื™ ื”ืžืขืฆื‘ื™ื ืขืฆืžื.
07:00
And that put me in touch with such diverse design examples as the aerogels
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ื•ื–ื” ืงื™ืฉืจ ืื•ืชื™ ืœื›ื–ื” ื˜ื•ื•ื— ืžื’ื•ื•ืŸ ืฉืœ ื“ื•ื’ืžืื•ืช ืขื™ืฆื•ื‘ ื›ืžื• ื”ืืจื•ื’'ืœืก
07:08
from the Lawrence Livermore Lab in California;
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ืžืžืขื‘ื“ืช ืœื•ืจื ืก ืœื™ื‘ืจืžื•ืจ ื‘ืงืœื™ืคื•ืจื ื™ื”;
07:10
at that time, they were beginning to be brought into the civilian market.
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ื‘ืื•ืชื• ื”ื–ืžืŸ, ื”ื ื”ืชื—ื™ืœื• ืœื”ื’ื™ืข ืœืฉื•ืง ื”ืื–ืจื—ื™.
07:16
And at the same time, the gorgeous work of Takeshi Ishiguro, who did these
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ื•ื‘ืื•ืชื• ื”ื–ืžืŸ, ื”ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ื”ื ืคืœืื” ืฉืœ ื˜ืงืฉื™ ืื™ืฉื™ื’ื•ืจื•, ืฉืขืฉื” ืืช
07:19
beautiful salt-and-pepper containers that are made of rice dough.
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ื”ืžืœื—ื™ื”-ืคืœืคืœื™ื” ื”ื ืคืœืื•ืช ื”ืืœื” ืฉืขืฉื•ื™ื•ืช ืžื‘ืฆืง ืื•ืจื–.
07:23
So you see, the range is really quite diverse.
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ืื– ืืชื ืจื•ืื™ื, ื”ื˜ื•ื•ื— ื”ื•ื ืžืžืฉ ืจื—ื‘.
07:28
And then, for instance, this other exhibition
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ื•ืื–, ืœื“ื•ื’ืžื”, ื”ืชืขืจื•ื›ื” ื”ืื—ืจืช ื”ื–ื•
07:30
that was entitled Workspheres in 2001,
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ืฉื ืงืจืื” ืžืจื—ื‘ื™ ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ื‘ 2001,
07:34
where I asked different designers to come up with ideas for
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ืฉื ื‘ื™ืงืฉืชื™ ืžืžืขืฆื‘ื™ื ืฉื•ื ื™ื ืœื”ื‘ื™ื ืจืขื™ื•ื ื•ืช
07:38
the new type of work styles that were happening in the world at that time.
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ืœืกื•ื’ ื—ื“ืฉ ืฉืœ ืฆื•ืจื•ืช ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ืฉืงืจื• ื‘ืขื•ืœื ื‘ืื•ืชื• ื”ื–ืžืŸ.
07:43
And you see IDEO there.
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ื•ืืชื ืจื•ืื™ื ืืช IDEO ืฉื.
07:45
It was beautiful -- it was called Personal Skies.
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ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื™ืคื”ืคื” -- ื–ื” ื ืงืจื ืฉืžื™ื™ื ืื™ืฉื™ื™ื.
07:48
The idea was that if you had a cubicle, you could project a sky on top
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ื”ืจืขื™ื•ืŸ ื”ื™ื” ืฉืื ื”ื™ื” ืœื›ื ืชื ืงื•ื‘ื™ืงืœ, ื”ื™ื™ืชื ื™ื›ื•ืœื™ื ืœื”ืงืจื™ืŸ ืฉืžื™ื™ื ืžืขืœ
07:52
of your head and have your own "Cielo in Una Stanza" -- a sky in a room --
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ืจืืฉื™ื›ื ื•ืฉื™ื”ื™ื” ืœื›ื "Cielo in Una Stanza" ืžืฉืœื›ื -- ืฉืžื™ื™ื ื‘ื—ื“ืจ --
07:56
it's a very famous Italian song.
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ื–ื” ืฉื™ืจ ืื™ื˜ืœืงื™ ืžืื•ื“ ื™ื“ื•ืข.
07:58
And other examples: this was Marti Guixe about working on the go,
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ื•ื“ื•ื’ืžืื•ืช ืื—ืจื•ืช: ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืžืจื˜ื™ ื’ื•ื™ืงืกื” ืขืœ ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ื‘ื“ืจืš,
08:02
and Hella Jongerius, my favorite, about how to work at home.
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ื•ื”ืœื” ื™ื•ื ื’ืจื•ื™ืก, ื”ืื”ื•ื‘ื” ืขืœื™, ืขืœ ืื™ืš ืœืขื‘ื•ื“ ื‘ื‘ื™ืช.
08:05
And this lets me introduce a very important idea about design:
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ื•ื–ื” ื ื•ืชืŸ ืœื™ ืœื”ืฆื™ื’ ืจืขื™ื•ืŸ ืžืžืฉ ื—ืฉื•ื‘ ืขืœ ืขื™ืฆื•ื‘:
08:10
designers are the biggest synthesizers in the world.
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ืžืขืฆื‘ื™ื ื”ื ื”ืกื™ื ื˜ื™ืกื™ื™ื–ืจื™ื ื”ื›ื™ ื’ื“ื•ืœื™ื ื‘ืขื•ืœื.
08:13
What they do best is make a synthesis of human needs,
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ืžื” ืฉื”ื ืขื•ืฉื™ื ื”ื›ื™ ื˜ื•ื‘ ื”ื•ื ืœื™ืฆื•ืจ ืกื™ื ื˜ื–ื” ืฉืœ ืฆืจื›ื™ื ืื ื•ืฉื™ื™ื,
08:18
current conditions in economy, in materials, in sustainability issues,
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ื”ืชื ืื™ื ื”ื ื•ื›ื—ื™ื™ื ื‘ื›ืœื›ืœื”, ื‘ื—ื•ืžืจื™ื, ื‘ื ื•ืฉืื™ื ืกื‘ื™ื‘ืชื™ื™ื,
08:22
and then what they do at the end -- if they are good --
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ื•ืื– ืžื” ืฉื”ื ืขื•ืฉื™ื ื‘ืกื•ืฃ -- ืื ื”ื ื˜ื•ื‘ื™ื --
08:26
is much more than the sum of its parts.
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ื–ื” ื”ืจื‘ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžืกื›ื•ื ื”ื—ืœืงื™ื.
08:28
Hella Jongerius is a person that is able to make a synthesis
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ื”ืœื” ื™ื•ื ื’ืจื™ื•ืก ื”ื™ื ืื“ื ืฉืžืกื•ื’ืœ ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืกื™ื ื˜ื–ื”
08:31
that is really quite amazing
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ืฉื”ื™ื ืžืžืฉ ื“ื™ ืžื“ื”ื™ืžื”
08:34
and also quite hilarious.
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ื•ื’ื ื“ื™ ืžื‘ื“ืจืช.
08:35
The idea behind her work was that
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ื”ืจืขื™ื•ืŸ ืžืื—ื•ืจื™ ื”ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ืฉืœื” ื”ื™ื”
08:38
at that time, everybody was saying you have to really divide your life.
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ืฉื‘ืื•ืชื• ื”ื–ืžืŸ, ื›ื•ืœื ืืžืจื• ืฉืืชื ืžืžืฉ ืœื—ืœืง ืืช ื—ื™ื™ื›ื.
08:42
Instead, she said, "No, no. Work and leisure can be together."
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ื‘ืžืงื•ื, ื”ื™ื ืืžืจื”, "ืœื, ืœื. ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ื•ื”ื ืื” ื™ื›ื•ืœื™ื ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ื™ื—ื“."
08:45
Yeah, that's particularly gorgeous -- it's the TV dinner of 2001.
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ื›ืŸ, ื–ื” ืžืžืฉ ื™ืคื”ืคื” -- ื–ื” ืืจื•ื—ืช ื”ื˜ืœื‘ื™ื–ื™ื” ืฉืœ 2001.
08:49
There have been many other exhibitions in the meantime,
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ื”ื™ื• ื”ืจื‘ื” ืชืขืจื•ื›ื•ืช ืื—ืจื•ืช ื‘ื™ื ืชื™ื™ื™ื,
08:53
but I don't want to focus on my shows.
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ืื‘ืœ ืื ื™ ืœื ืจื•ืฆื” ืœื”ืชืžืงื“ ืขืœ ื”ืชืขืจื•ื›ื•ืช ืฉืœื™.
08:54
I would like, instead, to talk about how great some designers are.
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ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืจื•ืฆื”, ื‘ืžืงื•ื, ืœื“ื‘ืจ ืขืœ ื›ืžื” ื ืคืœืื™ื ืžืขืฆื‘ื™ื ืื—ืจื™ื.
08:58
I've always had a hard time with the word "maverick."
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ืชืžื™ื“ ื”ื™ื” ืœื™ ืงืฉื” ืขื ื”ืžื™ืœื” "maverick."
09:00
I came to the United States 13 years ago, and to this day
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ื”ื’ืขืชื™ ืœืืจืฆื•ืช ื”ื‘ืจื™ืช ืœืคื ื™ 13 ืฉื ื™ื, ื•ืขื“ ื”ื™ื•ื
09:02
I have to ask, "What does that mean?"
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ืื ื™ ื—ื™ื™ื‘ืช ืœืฉืื•ืœ, "ืžื” ื–ื” ืื•ืžืจ?"
09:05
So, this morning I went to see on the dictionary and it said that
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ืื–, ื”ื‘ื•ืงืจ ื”ืœื›ืชื™ ืœื‘ื“ื•ืง ื‘ืžื™ืœื•ืŸ ื•ื”ื™ื” ื›ืชื•ื‘ ืฉื
09:08
there was this gentleman that was not branding its cattle.
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ืฉื”ื™ื” ืื™ื–ื” ื’'ื ื˜ืœืžืŸ ืฉืœื ืกื™ืžืŸ ืืช ื”ื‘ืงืจ ืฉืœื•.
09:11
Therefore, he was not following everybody's lead,
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ืœื›ืŸ, ื”ื•ื ืœื ื”ืœืš ื‘ื“ืจืš ืฉื›ื•ืœื ื”ื•ื‘ื™ืœื•,
09:14
and therefore, he was a maverick.
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ื•ืœื›ืŸ, ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” "maverick."
09:15
So, designers do need to be mavericks,
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ืื–, ืžืขืฆื‘ื™ื ืฆืจื™ื›ื™ื ืœื”ื™ื•ืช mavericks,
09:19
because the best way to design a successful object --
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ืžืคื ื™ ืฉื”ื“ืจืš ื”ื˜ื•ื‘ื” ื‘ื™ื•ืชืจ ืœืขืฆื‘ ืื•ื‘ื™ื™ืงื˜ ืžื•ืฆืœื— --
09:22
and also an object that we were missing before --
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ื•ื’ื ืื•ื‘ื™ื™ืงื˜ ืฉื”ื™ื” ื—ืกืจ ืœื ื• ืงื•ื“ื --
09:26
is to pretend that either it never existed
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ื–ื” ืœื ืกื•ืช ื•ืœื“ืžื•ืช ื›ืื™ืœื• ื”ื•ื ืœื ื”ื™ื” ืงื™ื™ื ืžืขื•ืœื
09:29
or that people will be able to have a new behavior with it.
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ืื• ืฉืื ืฉื™ื ื™ื•ื›ืœื• ืœื—ื•ื•ืช ื”ืชื ื”ื’ื•ืช ื—ื“ืฉื” ืื™ืชื•.
09:33
So, Safe is the last exhibition that I did at MoMA
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ืื–, ื‘ื™ื˜ื—ื•ืŸ ื”ื™ื ื”ืชืขืจื•ื›ื” ื”ืื—ืจื•ื ื” ืฉืขืฉื™ืชื™ ื‘MoMA
09:37
and it ended at the beginning of last year.
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ื•ื”ื™ื ื”ืกืชื™ื™ืžื” ื‘ืชื—ื™ืœืช ืฉื ื” ืฉืขื‘ืจื”.
09:40
It was about design that deals with safety and deals with protection.
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ื”ื™ื ื”ื™ืชื” ืขืœ ืขื™ืฆื•ื‘ ืฉื ื•ื’ืข ืœื‘ื˜ื™ื—ื•ืช ื•ื ื•ื’ืข ืœื”ื’ื ื”.
09:43
It's a long story because it started before 2001 and it was called Emergency.
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ื–ื” ืกื™ืคื•ืจ ืืจื•ืš ืžืคื ื™ ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ืชื—ื™ืœ ืœืคื ื™ 2001 ื•ื”ื•ื ื ืงืจื ื—ืจื•ื.
09:48
And then when 9/11 happened, I had a shock and I canceled the exhibition
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ื•ืื– ื›ืฉ 9/11 ืงืจื”, ื”ื™ื” ืœื™ ืฉื•ืง ื•ื‘ื™ื˜ืœืชื™ ืืช ื”ืชืฆื•ื’ื”
09:54
until, slowly but surely, it came back --
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ืขื“ ืฉืœืื˜ ืื‘ืœ ื‘ื˜ื•ื—, ื”ื™ื ื—ื–ืจื” --
09:57
as a half-full glass instead of half-empty --
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ื›ื›ื•ืก ื—ืฆื™ ืžืœืื” ื‘ืžืงื•ื ื—ืฆื™ ืจื™ืงื” --
10:00
and it was about protection and safety.
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ื•ื”ื™ื ืขืกืงื” ื‘ื”ื’ื ื” ื•ื‘ื˜ื™ื—ื•ืช.
10:02
But it ranged from such items as a complete de-mining equipment to
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ืื‘ืœ ื”ื™ื ื ืขื” ืžืคืจื™ื˜ื™ื ื›ืžื• ืžื›ืฉื•ืจ ืœืคื™ื ื•ื™ ืžื•ืงืฉื™ื ืžืœื
10:09
these kind of water-sterilizing straws,
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ื•ืขื“ ืœืžืขื™ืŸ ืงืฉื™ื ืžื˜ื”ืจื™ ืžื™ื,
10:13
so it was really wide-ranging.
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ืื– ื”ื™ื ื”ื™ืชื” ืžืžืฉ ืจื—ื‘ื”.
10:14
It also had ... you know, Cameron and I worked a little bit together,
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ื”ื™ื” ืœื” ื’ื... ืืชื ื™ื•ื“ืขื™ื, ืงืžืจื•ืŸ ื•ืื ื™ ืขื‘ื“ื ื• ืงืฆืช ื™ื—ื“,
10:18
and some of the entries that you see in his website were actually in the exhibition.
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ื•ื›ืžื” ืžื”ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืฉืืชื ืจื•ืื™ื ื‘ืืชืจ ืฉืœื• ื”ื™ื• ืœืžืขืฉื” ื‘ืชืขืจื•ื›ื”.
10:22
But what is interesting is that we don't need to talk about design and art anymore;
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ืื‘ืœ ืžื” ืฉืžืขื ื™ื™ืŸ ื–ื” ืฉืื ื—ื ื• ืœื ืฆืจื™ื›ื™ื ืœื“ื‘ืจ ืขืœ ืขื™ืฆื•ื‘ ื•ืื•ืžื ื•ืช ื™ื•ืชืจ;
10:29
design uses whatever tools it has at its disposal in order to make a point.
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ืขื™ืฆื•ื‘ ืžืฉืชืžืฉ ื‘ืื™ื–ื” ื›ืœื™ื ืฉื™ืฉ ืœื• ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ื‘ื™ืข ืืช ื”ื ืงื•ื“ื”.
10:33
It's a sense of economy and a sense, also, of humor.
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ื–ื” ื—ื•ืฉ ืฉืœ ื›ืœื›ืœื” ื•ื—ื•ืฉ, ื’ื, ืฉืœ ื”ื•ืžื•ืจ.
10:36
This is a beautiful project by Ralph Borland, who's South African.
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ื–ื” ืคืจื•ื™ื™ืงื˜ ื ืคืœื ืฉืœ ืจืืœืฃ ื‘ื•ืจืœื ื“, ืฉื”ื•ื ื“ืจื•ื ืืคืจื™ืงืื™.
10:40
It's a suit for civil disobedience.
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ื–ื• ื—ืœื™ืคื” ืฉืœ ืžืจื™ ืื–ืจื—ื™.
10:42
The idea is that when you have a riot or a protest
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ื”ืจืขื™ื•ืŸ ื”ื•ื ืฉื›ืฉื™ืฉ ืœื›ื ื”ืชืคืจืขื•ืช ืื• ืžื—ืื”
10:45
and the police comes towards you, you're wearing this thing --
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ื•ื”ืžืฉื˜ืจื” ืžืชืงืจื‘ืช ืืœื™ื›ื, ืืชื ืœื•ื‘ืฉื™ื ืืช ื–ื” --
10:48
it's like a big heart and it has a loudspeaker over your heart
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ื–ื” ื›ืžื• ืœื‘ ื’ื“ื•ืœ ื•ื™ืฉ ืœื–ื” ืจืžืงื•ืœ ืžืขืœ ื”ืœื‘
10:52
so your heartbeat is amplified --
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ืื– ื”ืœืžื•ืช ื”ืœื‘ ืฉืœื›ื ืžื•ื’ื‘ืจืช --
10:53
and the police is reminded;
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ื•ื”ืžืฉื˜ืจื” ืžื•ื“ืขืช;
10:55
it's like having a flower in front of the rifle.
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ื–ื” ื›ืžื• ืฉื™ืฉ ืคืจื— ืœืคื ื™ ื”ืจื•ื‘ื”.
10:58
And also, you can imagine, a whole group of people with the same suit
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ื•ื’ื, ืืชื ื™ื›ื•ืœื™ื ืœื“ืžื™ื™ืŸ, ืœืงื‘ื•ืฆื” ืฉืœืžื” ืฉืœ ืื ืฉื™ื ืขื ืื•ืชื” ื—ืœื™ืคื”
11:03
will have this mounting collective heartbeat that will be scary to the police.
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ื™ื”ื™ื” ืืช ืคืขื™ืžืช ื”ืœื‘ ื”ืžืชื’ื‘ืจืช ื”ืงื•ืœืงื˜ื™ื‘ื™ืช ืฉืชื‘ื”ื™ืœ ืืช ื”ืžืฉื˜ืจื”.
11:07
So, designers sometimes don't do things that are immediately
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ืื–, ืžืขืฆื‘ื™ื ืœืคืขืžื™ื ืœื ืขื•ืฉื™ื ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืฉืžื™ื“
11:10
functional, but they're functional to our understanding of issues.
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ืคื•ื ืงืฆื™ื•ื ืœื™ื™ื, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื ืคื•ื ืงืฆื™ื•ื ืœื™ื™ื ืœื”ื‘ื ื” ืฉืœื ื• ืฉืœ ื”ื ื•ืฉื.
11:14
Tony Dunne and Fiona Raby
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ื˜ื•ื ื™ ื“ื•ืŸ ื•ืคื™ื•ื ื” ืจื‘ื™
11:16
did this series of objects that are about our anguish and our paranoia,
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ืขืฉื• ืืช ื”ืกื“ืจื” ื”ื–ื• ืฉืœ ืคืจื™ื˜ื™ื ืฉื ื•ื’ืขื™ื ืœื™ืกื•ืจื™ื ืฉืœื ื• ื•ื”ืคืจื ื•ื™ื” ืฉืœื ื•,
11:22
like this hideaway furniture that's made in the same wood as your floor
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ื›ืžื• ื”ืจื”ื™ื˜ื™ื ื”ืžื•ื—ื‘ืื™ื ื”ืืœื” ืฉืขืฉื•ื™ื™ื ืžืื•ืชื• ืขืฅ ื›ืžื• ื”ืจืฆืคื” ืฉืœื›ื
11:26
so it disappears completely and you can hide away;
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ืื– ื”ื ื ืขืœืžื™ื ืœื’ืžืจื™ ื•ืืชื ื™ื›ื•ืœื™ื ืœื”ืชื—ื‘ื;
11:28
or even better, the huggable atomic mushroom, which got me an article
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ืื• ืืคื™ืœื• ื™ื•ืชืจ ื˜ื•ื‘, ื”ืคื˜ืจื™ื” ื”ื—ื™ื‘ื•ืงื™ืช ื”ืื˜ื•ืžื™ืช, ืฉื”ืฉื™ื’ื” ืœื™ ืžืืžืจ
11:33
on the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists of the United States --
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ื‘ืžื’ื–ื™ืŸ ืฉืœ ื”ืžื“ืขื ื™ื ื”ืื˜ื•ืžื™ื™ื ื‘ืืจืฆื•ืช ื”ื‘ืจื™ืช --
11:36
I don't think it ever happened before at MoMA;
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ืื ื™ ืœื ื—ื•ืฉื‘ืช ืฉื–ื” ืงืจื” ืงื•ื“ื ืœื›ืŸ ื‘ MoMA;
11:38
or this Faraday Chair that is supposed to protect you from radiations.
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ืื• ื›ื™ืกื ืคืืจืื“ื™ ื”ื–ื” ืฉืืžื•ืจ ืœื”ื’ืŸ ืขืœื™ื›ื ืžืงืจื™ื ื”.
11:41
But the interesting thing in the exhibition is the discovery that
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ืื‘ืœ ื”ื“ื‘ืจ ื”ืžืขื ื™ื™ืŸ ื‘ืชืขืจื•ื›ื” ื”ื•ื ื”ื’ื™ืœื•ื™
11:47
the ultimate shelter is your sense of self,
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ืฉื”ืžืงืœื˜ ื”ืื•ืœื˜ื™ืžื˜ื™ื‘ื™ ื”ื•ื ืชื—ื•ืฉืช ื”ืขืฆืžื™ ืฉืœื›ื,
11:49
and there are quite a few designers that are working on this particular topic.
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ื•ื™ืฉ ื“ื™ ื”ืจื‘ื” ืžืขืฆื‘ื™ื ืฉืขื•ื‘ื“ื™ื ืขืœ ื”ื ื•ืฉื ื”ืกืคืฆื™ืคื™ ื”ื–ื”.
11:54
This is Cindy van den Bremen, who is a Dutch designer
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ื–ื• ืกื™ื ื“ื™ ื•ืŸ ื“ืŸ ื‘ืจืžืŸ, ืฉื”ื™ื ืžืขืฆื‘ืช ื”ื•ืœื ื“ื™ืช
11:56
that's done this series of Capsters.
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ื”ื™ื ืขืฉืชื” ืกื™ื“ืจื” ืฉืœ ืงืืคืกื˜ืจื™ื.
11:58
They are athletic gear for Muslim women that enable them to ski, play tennis,
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ื”ื ืžืœื‘ื•ืฉื™ ืจืืฉ ืื˜ืœื˜ื™ื™ื ืœื ืฉื™ื ืžื•ืกืœืžื™ื•ืช ืฉืžืืคืฉืจื™ื ืœื”ืŸ ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืกืงื™, ืœืฉื—ืง ื˜ื ื™ืก,
12:05
do whatever they want to do without having to uncap themselves.
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ืœืขืฉื•ืช ื›ืœ ืžื” ืฉื™ืจืฆื• ื‘ืœื™ ืœื”ื•ืจื™ื“ ืืช ื›ื™ืกื•ื™ ื”ืจืืฉ.
12:09
And sometimes by doing this kind of research,
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ื•ืœืคืขืžื™ื ืขืœ ื™ื“ื™ ืขืฉื™ื™ืช ื›ื–ื” ืžื—ืงืจ,
12:13
you encounter such beautiful ideas of design.
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ืืชื ื ืชืงืœื™ื ื‘ืจืขื™ื•ื ื•ืช ื›ืœ ื›ืš ื™ืคื™ื ื‘ืขื™ืฆื•ื‘.
12:15
Twan Verdonck is really young, I think he's 27, and working together with
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ื˜ื•ื•ืืŸ ื•ื•ืจื“ื•ื ืง ืžืžืฉ ืฆืขื™ืจ, ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ืช ืฉื”ื•ื ื‘ืŸ 27, ื‘ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ื™ื—ื“ ืขื
12:21
some psychologist he did a series of toys that are for sensorial
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ืคืกื™ื›ื•ืœื•ื’ ื”ื•ื ืขืฉื” ืกื“ืจื” ืฉืœ ืฆืขืฆื•ืขื™ื ืฉื”ื ืœืขื™ืจื•ืจ
12:25
stimulation for children that have psychological impairments.
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ืกื ืกื•ืจื™ืืœื™ ืœื™ืœื“ื™ื ืฉื™ืฉ ืœื”ื ื‘ืขื™ื•ืช ืคืกื™ื›ื•ืœื•ื’ื™ื•ืช.
12:27
They're quite beautiful.
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ื”ื ื“ื™ ืžืงืกื™ืžื™ื.
12:29
They range from this fluffy toy that is about hugging you --
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ื”ื ื ืขื™ื ืžืฆืขืฆื•ืข ืจืš ืฉืžื—ื‘ืง ืื•ืชื›ื --
12:32
because autistic children like to be hugged tight, so it has a spring inside --
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ืžืคื ื™ ืฉื™ืœื“ื™ื ืื•ื˜ื™ืกื˜ื™ื ืื•ื”ื‘ื™ื ื—ื™ื‘ื•ืงื™ื ื—ื–ืงื™ื, ืื– ื™ืฉ ืœื• ืงืคื™ืฅ ื‘ืคื ื™ื --
12:36
all the way to this doll with a mirror so the child can see him or herself
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ืขื“ ืœื‘ื•ื‘ื” ืขื ืžืจืื” ื›ืš ืฉื”ื™ืœื“ ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœืจืื•ืช ืืช ืขืฆืžื• ืื• ืขืฆืžื”
12:41
in the mirror and regain a sense of self.
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ื‘ืžืจืื” ื•ืœืงื‘ืœ ืชื—ื•ืฉื” ืฉืœ ืขืฆืžื•.
12:45
Design really looks upon the whole world
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ืขื™ืฆื•ื‘ ื‘ืืžืช ืžืกืชื›ืœ ืขืœ ื›ืœ ื”ืขื•ืœื
12:48
and it considers the world in all of its different ranges.
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ื•ืžื—ืฉื™ื‘ ืืช ื”ืขื•ืœื ื‘ื›ืœ ื˜ื•ื•ื—ื™ื•.
12:51
I was recently at a conference on luxury organized by the Herald Tribune in Istanbul.
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ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืœืื—ืจื•ื ื” ื‘ื•ืขื™ื“ื” ื‘ื ื•ืฉื ืžื•ืชืจื•ืช ืฉืื•ืจื’ื ื” ืขืœ ื™ื“ื™ ื”ื”ืจืืœื“ ื˜ืจื™ื‘ื™ื•ืŸ ื‘ืื™ืกื˜ื ื‘ื•ืœ.
12:56
And it was really interesting because I was the last speaker
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ื•ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืžืขื ื™ื™ืŸ ืžืคื ื™ ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื”ื“ื•ื‘ืจืช ื”ืื—ืจื•ื ื”
12:59
and before me there were people that were really talking about luxury,
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ื•ืœืคื ื™ื™ ื”ื™ื• ืื ืฉื™ื ืฉื‘ืืžืช ื“ื™ื‘ืจื• ืขืœ ืžื•ืชืจื•ืช,
13:02
and I didn't want to be a party pooper but at the same time
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ื•ืœื ืจืฆื™ืชื™ ืœืงืœืงืœ ืืช ื”ืžืกื™ื‘ื” ืื‘ืœ ื‘ืื•ืชื• ื”ื–ืžืŸ
13:06
I felt that I had to kind of bring back the discourse to reality.
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ื”ืจื’ืฉืชื™ ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื—ื™ื™ื‘ืช ืœื”ื—ื–ื™ืจ ืืช ื”ืงื”ืœ ืœืžืฆื™ืื•ืช.
13:08
And the truth is that there are very different kinds of luxury,
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ื•ื”ืืžืช ื”ื™ื ืฉื™ืฉ ืกื•ื’ื™ื ืฉื•ื ื™ื ืฉืœ ืžื•ืชืจื•ืช,
13:14
and there's luxury that is relative for people that don't have that much.
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ื•ื™ืฉ ืžื•ืชืจื•ืช ื™ื—ืกื™ื•ืช ืœืื ืฉื™ื ืฉืื™ืŸ ืœื”ื ื›ืœ ื›ืš ื”ืจื‘ื”.
13:18
I want to make this point by showing you two examples of
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ืื ื™ ืจื•ืฆื” ืœื”ืขื‘ื™ืจ ืืช ื”ื ืงื•ื“ื” ื”ื–ื• ืขืœ ื™ื“ื™ ืฉืชื™ ื“ื•ื’ืžืื•ืช ืฉืœ
13:23
design coming from a sense of economy -- very, very clear limits.
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ืขื™ืฆื•ื‘ื™ื ืฉืžื’ื™ืขื™ื ืžื›ื™ื•ื•ืŸ ืฉืœ ื›ืœื›ืœื” -- ืžื’ื‘ืœื•ืช ืžืžืฉ ืžืžืฉ ื‘ืจื•ืจื•ืช.
13:28
This is Cuba, and this is the recycling of a squeaky toy as a bicycle bell,
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ื–ื• ืงื•ื‘ื”, ื•ื–ื” ืžื—ื–ื•ืจ ืฉืœ ืฆืขืฆื•ืข ืžืฆืคืฆืฃ ื›ืคืขืžื•ืŸ ืœืื•ืคื ื™ื™ื,
13:34
and this is a raincoat that is made out of rice sacks.
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ื•ื–ื” ืžืขื™ืœ ื’ืฉื ืฉืขืฉื•ื™ ืžืฉืงื™ ืื•ืจื–.
13:39
So they're quite beautiful, but they're beautiful because
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ืื– ื”ื ืžืžืฉ ื™ืคื™ื, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื ื™ืคื™ื ืžืคื ื™
13:41
they're so smart and economical.
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ืฉื”ื ื›ืœ ื›ืš ื—ื›ืžื™ื ื•ื–ื•ืœื™ื.
13:44
And here is the work of two brothers from Sao Paulo,
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ื•ื–ื• ื”ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ืฉืœ ืฉื ื™ ืื—ื™ื ืžืกืื• ืคืื•ืœื•,
13:47
Fernando and Humberto Campana, who got inspired by the poverty and
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ืคืจื ื ื“ื• ื•ื”ื•ืžื‘ืจื˜ื• ืงืžืคื ื”, ืฉืงื™ื‘ืœื• ื”ืฉืจืื” ืžื”ืขื•ื ื™
13:53
smartness that they saw around them to do pieces of furniture that now are
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ื•ื”ื—ื•ื›ืžื” ืฉื”ื ืจืื• ืกื‘ื™ื‘ื ืœื™ืฆื•ืจ ืคื™ืกื•ืช ืจื™ื”ื•ื˜ ืฉืขื›ืฉื™ื•
13:57
selling for an enormous amount of money.
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ื ืžื›ืจื•ืช ื‘ื›ืžื•ื™ื•ืช ืขืฆื•ืžื•ืช ืฉืœ ื›ืกืฃ.
13:59
But that's because of the kind of strangeness of the market itself.
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ืื‘ืœ ื–ื” ื‘ื’ืœืœ ืกื•ื’ ื”ืžื•ื–ืจื•ืช ืฉืœ ื”ืฉื•ืง ืขืฆืžื•.
14:03
So really, design takes everything into account,
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ืื– ื‘ืืžืช, ืขื™ืฆื•ื‘ ืœื•ืงื— ื”ื›ืœ ื‘ื—ืฉื‘ื•ืŸ,
14:07
and the interesting thing is that as the technology advances,
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ื•ื”ื“ื‘ืจ ื”ืžืขื ื™ื™ืŸ ื”ื•ื ืฉื”ื˜ื›ื ื•ืœื•ื’ื™ื” ืžืชืงื“ืžืช,
14:10
as we become more and more wireless and impalpable,
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ื›ืฉืื ื—ื ื• ื ืขืฉื™ื ื™ื•ืชืจ ื•ื™ื•ืชืจ ืืœื—ื•ื˜ื™ื™ื ื•ืœื ืžื•ื—ืฉื™ื™ื,
14:14
designers, instead, want us to be hands-on.
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ืžืขืฆื‘ื™ื, ื‘ืžืงื•ื, ืจื•ืฆื™ื ืœื’ืขืช ื‘ืžื•ืฆืจ.
14:17
Sometimes hammer-on.
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ืœืคืขืžื™ื ืขื ืคื˜ื™ืฉ.
14:18
This is a whole series of furniture that wants to engage you physically.
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ื–ื• ืกื“ืจื” ืฉืœืžื” ืฉืœ ืจื”ื™ื˜ื™ื ืฉืจื•ืฆื” ืœื’ืขืช ื‘ื›ื ืคื™ืกื™ืช.
14:23
Even this chair that you have to open up and then sit on so that it takes
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ืืคื™ืœื• ื”ื›ื™ืกื ื”ื–ื” ืฉืืชื ืฆืจื™ื›ื™ื ืœืคืชื•ื— ื•ืื– ืœืฉื‘ืช ืขืœื™ื• ื›ืš ืฉื–ื” ืœื•ืงื—
14:27
your imprint, all the way to this beautiful series of objects
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ืืช ื”ื˜ื‘ื™ืขื” ืฉืœื›ื, ืขื“ ืœืกื“ืจื” ื”ื™ืคื” ื”ื–ื• ืฉืœ ื”ื—ืคืฆื™ื
14:32
that are considered design by Ana Mir in Barcelona.
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ืฉื ื—ืฉื‘ื™ื ืขื™ืฆื•ื‘ ืฉืœ ืื ื” ืžื™ืจ ื‘ื‘ืจืฆืœื•ื ื”.
14:35
From this kind of bijou made with human hair to these chocolate nipples
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ืžืกื•ื’ ื›ื–ื” ืฉืœ ื‘ื™ื–'ื• ืฉื ืขืฉื” ืขื ืฉืขืจ ืื“ื ืœืคื˜ืžื•ืช ื”ืฉื•ืงื•ืœื“
14:40
to these intra-toe candies that your lover is supposed to suck from your toes.
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ืœืžืžืชืงื™ื ื‘ื™ืŸ ื”ืืฆื‘ืขื•ืช ืฉื”ืžืื”ื‘ ืฉืœื›ื ืืžื•ืจ ืœืžืฆื•ืฅ ืœื›ื ืžื‘ื™ืŸ ืืฆื‘ืขื•ืช ื”ืจื’ืœื™ื™ื.
14:44
(Laughter)
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(ืฆื—ื•ืง)
14:45
It's quite beautiful because somehow, this is a gorgeous moment for design.
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ื–ื” ืžืžืฉ ื™ืคื” ืžืคื ื™ ืฉืื™ื›ืฉื”ื•, ื–ื” ืจื’ืข ื ืคืœื ืฉืœ ืขื™ืฆื•ื‘.
14:50
Many years ago I heard a mathematician from Vienna, whose name was Marchetti,
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ืœืคื ื™ ื”ืจื‘ื” ืฉื ื™ื ืฉืžืขืชื™ ืžืชืžื˜ื™ืงืื™ ืžื•ื™ื ื”, ืฉืฉืžื• ื”ื™ื” ืžืจืฆ'ื˜ื™,
14:57
explain how the innovation in the military industry --
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ืžืกื‘ื™ืจ ืื™ืš ื”ื”ืžืฆืื•ืช ื‘ืชืขืฉื™ื” ื”ืฆื‘ืื™ืช --
15:01
therefore, secret innovation -- and the innovation in the
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ื•ืœื›ืŸ, ื”ืžืฆืื•ืช ืกื•ื“ื™ื•ืช -- ื•ื”ื”ืžืฆืื•ืช
15:05
civilian society are two sinusoids that are kind of opposed.
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ื‘ื—ื‘ืจื” ื”ืื–ืจื—ื™ืช ื”ืŸ ืฉื ื™ ื’ืœื™ ืกื™ื ื•ืก ืฉื“ื™ ืžื ื•ื’ื“ื™ื.
15:08
And that makes sense.
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ื•ื–ื” ื”ื’ื™ื•ื ื™.
15:10
In moments of war there's great technological innovation,
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ื‘ืจื’ืขื™ื ืฉืœ ืžืœื—ืžื” ื™ืฉ ื—ื“ืฉื ื•ืช ื˜ื›ื ื•ืœื•ื’ื™ืช ืขืฆื•ืžื”,
15:12
and in the world you have to do without --
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ื•ื‘ืขื•ืœื ืฆืจื™ืš ืœื”ืกืชื“ืจ ื‘ืœื™ --
15:15
well, during the Second World War, you had to do without steel,
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ื•ื‘ื›ืŸ, ื‘ื–ืžืŸ ืžืœื—ืžืช ื”ืขื•ืœื ื”ืฉื ื™ื”, ื”ื™ื™ืชื ืฆืจื™ื›ื™ื ืœื”ืกืชื“ืจ ืฉืœื™ ืคืœื“ื”,
15:17
you had to do without aluminum.
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ื”ื™ื™ืชื ืฆืจื™ื›ื™ื ืœื”ืกืชื“ืจ ื‘ืœื™ ืืœื•ืžื™ื ื™ื•ื.
15:18
And then as peace comes, all of these technologies get all of a sudden
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ื•ืื– ื›ืฉื”ืฉืœื•ื ื”ื’ื™ืข, ื›ืœ ื”ื˜ื›ื ื•ืœื•ื’ื™ื•ืช ื”ืืœื” ืคืชืื•ื
15:23
available for the civilian market.
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ื–ืžื™ื ื•ืช ืœืฉื•ืง ื”ืื–ืจื—ื™.
15:25
Many of you might know that the Potato Chip Chair
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ืจื‘ื™ื ืžื›ื ืื•ืœื™ ื™ื•ื“ืขื™ื ืฉื›ื™ืกื ื”ืฆ'ื™ืคืก
15:28
by Charles and Ray Eames comes exactly from that kind of instance:
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ืฉืœ ืฆ'ืืจืœืก ื•ืจื™ื™ ืื™ืžืก ื‘ื ื‘ื“ื™ื•ืง ืžืžืงืจื” ื›ื–ื”:
15:32
fiberglass was available for civilian use all of a sudden.
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ืคื™ื‘ืจื’ืœืก ื”ื™ื” ื–ืžื™ืŸ ืคืชืื•ื ืœืฉื™ืžื•ืฉ ืื–ืจื—ื™.
15:35
I think that this is a strange moment.
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ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ืช ืฉื–ื” ืจื’ืข ืžื•ื–ืจ.
15:38
The rhythm of the sinusoids has changed tremendously,
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ื”ืงืฆื‘ ืฉืœ ื”ืกื™ื ื•ืก ื”ืฉืชื ื” ืœื—ืœื•ื˜ื™ืŸ
15:40
just like the rhythm of our life in the past 25 years,
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ื‘ื“ื™ื•ืง ื›ืžื• ื”ืงืฆื‘ ืฉืœ ื—ื™ื™ื ื• ื‘25 ื”ืฉื ื” ื”ืื—ืจื•ื ื•ืช,
15:44
so I'm not sure anymore what the wavelength is.
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ืื– ืื ื™ ืœื ื‘ื˜ื•ื—ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžื” ื”ื•ื ืื•ืจืš ื”ื’ืœ.
15:47
But it surely is a very important moment for design,
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ืื‘ืœ ื–ื” ื‘ื˜ื•ื— ืจื’ืข ื—ืฉื•ื‘ ืœืขื™ืฆื•ื‘,
15:51
because not only is the technology proceeding, not only is computing
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ืžืคื ื™ ืฉืœื ืจืง ืฉื”ื˜ื›ื ื•ืœื•ื’ื™ื” ืžืชืงื“ืžืช, ืœื ืจืง ืฉื”ืžื—ืฉื•ื‘
15:55
technology making open-source possible also in the world of design,
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ื”ื•ืคืš ืืช ื”ืงื•ื“ ื”ืคืชื•ื— ืœืืคืฉืจื™ ื’ื ื‘ืขื•ืœื ื”ืขื™ืฆื•ื‘,
16:00
but also the idea of sustainability --
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ืืœื ื’ื ื”ืจืขื™ื•ืŸ ืฉืœ ืงื™ื•ืžื™ื•ืช --
16:02
which is not only sustainability from the viewpoint of CO2 emissions and footprint,
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ืฉื”ื•ื ืœื ืจืง ืžื ืงื•ื“ืช ื”ืจืื•ืช ืฉืœ ืคืœื™ื˜ืช ืคื—ืžืŸ ื“ื• ื—ืžืฆื ื™ ื•ืชื‘ื™ืขืช ื›ืฃ ืจื’ืœ,
16:08
but also sustainability of human interrelationships --
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ืืœื ื’ื ืงื™ื•ืžื™ื•ืช ืฉืœ ื™ื—ืกื™ื ื‘ื™ืŸ ืื™ืฉื™ื™ื ืฉืœ ื”ืื ื•ืฉื•ืช --
16:11
is very much part of the work of so many designers.
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ื”ื™ื ื—ืœืง ืžื”ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ืฉืœ ื”ืจื‘ื” ืžืขืฆื‘ื™ื.
16:14
And that's why designers, more and more, are working on behaviors
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ื•ื–ื• ื”ืกื™ื‘ื” ืฉืžืขืฆื‘ื™ื, ื™ื•ืชืจ ื•ื™ื•ืชืจ, ืขื•ื‘ื“ื™ื ืขืœ ื”ืชื ื”ื’ื•ื™ื•ืช
16:17
rather than on objects.
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ื‘ืžืงื•ื ืขืœ ื—ืคืฆื™ื.
16:18
Especially the good ones, not all of them.
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ื‘ืขื™ืงืจ ื”ื˜ื•ื‘ื™ื ืฉื‘ื”ื, ืœื ื›ื•ืœื.
16:21
I wanted to show you, for instance, the work of Mathieu Lehanneur,
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ืจืฆื™ืชื™ ืœื”ืจืื•ืช ืœื›ื, ืœื“ื•ื’ืžื”, ืืช ื”ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ืฉืœ ืžืชื™ื• ืœื”ื ื•ืจ,
16:25
which is quite fantastic.
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ืฉื”ื™ื ืžืžืฉ ืคื ื˜ืกื˜ื™ืช.
16:26
He's another young designer from France who's working --
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ื”ื•ื ืขื•ื“ ืžืขืฆื‘ ืฆืขื™ืจ ืžืฆืจืคืช ืฉืขื•ื‘ื“ --
16:29
and at this point he's working, also, with pharmaceutical companies --
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ื•ื‘ื ืงื•ื“ื” ื”ื–ื• ื”ื•ื ืขื•ื‘ื“, ื’ื, ืขื ื—ื‘ืจื•ืช ืชืจื•ืคื•ืช --
16:31
on new ways to engage patients, especially children,
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ืขืœ ื“ืจื›ื™ื ื—ื“ืฉื•ืช ืœื˜ืคืœ ื‘ืคืฆื™ื™ื ื˜ื™ื, ื‘ืขื™ืงืจ ื™ืœื“ื™ื,
16:35
in taking their medicines with constancy and with certainty.
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ื‘ืœืงื™ื—ืช ืชืจื•ืคื•ืช ื‘ืฆื•ืจื” ืจืฆื™ืคื” ื•ื‘ื˜ื•ื—ื”.
16:39
For instance, this is a beautiful container for asthma medicine
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ืœื“ื•ื’ืžื”, ื–ื” ืžื™ื›ืœ ื™ืคื™ืคื” ืœืชืจื•ืคื” ื ื’ื“ ืืกื˜ืžื”
16:43
that kind of inflates itself when it's time for you to take the medicine,
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ืฉืžืขื™ืŸ ืžื ืคื— ืืช ืขืฆืžื• ื›ืฉื”ื’ื™ืข ื”ื–ืžืŸ ืœืงื—ืช ืืช ื”ืชืจื•ืคื”,
16:46
so the child has to go -- pffff! -- to release and relieve the container itself.
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ืื– ื”ื™ืœื“ ืฆืจื™ืš ืœืขืฉื•ืช -- ืคืคืคืค! -- ื›ื“ื™ ืœืฉื—ืจืจ ื•ืœื”ืจืคื•ืช ืืช ื”ืžื™ื›ืœ ืขืฆืžื•.
16:51
And this other medicine is something that you can draw on your skin,
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ื•ื”ืชืจื•ืคื” ื”ืื—ืจืช ื”ื™ื ืžืฉื”ื• ืฉืืชื ื™ื›ื•ืœื™ื ืœืฆื™ื™ืจ ืขืœ ื”ืขื•ืจ,
16:54
so intradermal delivery enables you to joyfully be involved
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ืื– ื”ืขื‘ืจื” ืชื•ืš ืขื•ืจื™ืช ืžืืคืฉืจืช ืœื›ื ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืžืขื•ืจื‘ื™ื ื‘ืฆื•ืจื” ื›ื™ืคื™ืช
16:59
in this particular kind of delivery.
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ื‘ืกื•ื’ ื”ืœืงื™ื—ื” ื”ืžืกื•ื™ื™ื ื”ื–ื”.
17:01
Similarly, there's the work of people like Marti Guixe that tries to involve
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ื‘ื“ื•ืžื”, ื™ืฉ ืืช ื”ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ืฉืœ ืื ืฉื™ื ื›ืžื• ืžืจื˜ื™ ื’ื•ื™ื™ืงืก ืฉืžื ืกื” ืœืขืจื‘
17:07
you in a way that is really about making everything pass through your mouth
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ืืชื›ื ื‘ืื•ืคืŸ ื›ื–ื” ืฉื”ื›ืœ ื™ืขื‘ื•ืจ ื“ืจืš ื”ืคื” ืฉืœื›ื
17:12
so that you learn from your mistakes or from your taste, orally.
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ื›ืš ืฉืืชื ืœื•ืžื“ื™ื ืžื”ื˜ืขื•ื™ื•ืช ืฉืœื›ื ืื• ืžื”ื˜ืขื ืฉืœื›ื, ืื•ืจืœื™ืช.
17:19
The next show that I'm going to work on --
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ื”ืชืฆื•ื’ื” ื”ื‘ืื” ืฉืื ื™ ืืขื‘ื•ื“ ืขืœื™ื” --
17:21
and I've been bugging a lot of you about this here --
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ื•ื”ืฆืงืชื™ ืœื”ืจื‘ื” ืžื›ื ืขืœ ื–ื” ืคื” --
17:24
is about the relationship between design and science.
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ื”ื™ื ืขืœ ื™ื—ืกื™ื ื‘ื™ืŸ ืขื™ืฆื•ื‘ ื•ืžื“ืข.
17:26
I'm trying to find not the metaphors, but, rather, the points in common --
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ืื ื™ ืžื ืกื” ืœืžืฆื•ื ืœื ืืช ื”ืžื˜ืืคื•ืจื•ืช, ืืœื, ืืช ื ืงื•ื“ื•ืช ื”ืฉื™ืชื•ืฃ --
17:30
the common gripes, the common issues, the common preoccupations --
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ืืช ื”ื‘ืขื™ื•ืช ื”ืžืฉื•ืชืคื•ืช, ืืช ื”ื ื•ืฉืื™ื ื”ืžืฉื•ืชืคื™ื, ืืช ื”ื”ืชืขืกืงื•ื™ื•ืช ื”ืžืฉื•ืชืคื•ืช --
17:34
and I think that it will enable us to go a little further in this idea of design
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ื•ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ืช ืฉื–ื” ื™ืืคืฉืจ ืœื ื• ืœืœื›ืช ืงืฆืช ืงื“ื™ืžื” ื‘ืจืขื™ื•ืŸ ืฉืœ ืขื™ืฆื•ื‘
17:41
as an instruction, as a direction rather than a prescription of form.
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ื›ื”ื•ืจืื”, ื›ื›ื™ื•ื•ืŸ ื‘ืžืงื•ื ื›ืชืคื™ืกื” ืฉืœ ืฆื•ืจื”.
17:46
And I am hoping that many of you will respond to this.
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ื•ืื ื™ ืžืงื•ื•ื” ืฉื”ืจื‘ื” ืžื›ื ืชืขื ื• ืœื–ื”.
17:50
I've sent an email already to quite a few of you.
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ืฉืœื—ืชื™ ืื™ืžื™ื™ืœ ื›ื‘ืจ ืœื“ื™ ื”ืจื‘ื” ืžื›ื.
17:53
But design and science and the possibility of visualizing different scales,
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ืื‘ืœ ืขื™ืฆื•ื‘ ื•ืžื“ืข ื•ื”ืืคืฉืจื•ืช ืฉืœ ื”ืžื—ืฉื” ืฉืœ ืงื ื™ ืžื™ื“ื” ืฉื•ื ื™ื,
17:57
and therefore, really work at the scale of the very small
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ื•ืœื›ืŸ, ื‘ืืžืช ืœืขื‘ื•ื“ ื‘ืงื ื” ื”ืžื™ื“ื” ืฉืœ ืžืžืฉ ืงื˜ืŸ
18:01
to make it very big and very meaningful.
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ื›ื“ื™ ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืืช ื–ื” ืžืžืฉ ื’ื“ื•ืœ ื•ื‘ืขืœ ืžืฉืžืขื•ืช.
18:03
Thank you. (Applause)
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ืชื•ื“ื” ืœื›ื. (ืžื—ื™ืื•ืช ื›ืคื™ื™ื)
ืขืœ ืืชืจ ื–ื”

ืืชืจ ื–ื” ื™ืฆื™ื’ ื‘ืคื ื™ื›ื ืกืจื˜ื•ื ื™ YouTube ื”ืžื•ืขื™ืœื™ื ืœืœื™ืžื•ื“ ืื ื’ืœื™ืช. ืชื•ื›ืœื• ืœืจืื•ืช ืฉื™ืขื•ืจื™ ืื ื’ืœื™ืช ื”ืžื•ืขื‘ืจื™ื ืขืœ ื™ื“ื™ ืžื•ืจื™ื ืžื”ืฉื•ืจื” ื”ืจืืฉื•ื ื” ืžืจื—ื‘ื™ ื”ืขื•ืœื. ืœื—ืฅ ืคืขืžื™ื™ื ืขืœ ื”ื›ืชื•ื‘ื™ื•ืช ื‘ืื ื’ืœื™ืช ื”ืžื•ืฆื’ื•ืช ื‘ื›ืœ ื“ืฃ ื•ื™ื“ืื• ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ืคืขื™ืœ ืืช ื”ืกืจื˜ื•ืŸ ืžืฉื. ื”ื›ืชื•ื‘ื™ื•ืช ื’ื•ืœืœื•ืช ื‘ืกื ื›ืจื•ืŸ ืขื ื”ืคืขืœืช ื”ื•ื•ื™ื“ืื•. ืื ื™ืฉ ืœืš ื”ืขืจื•ืช ืื• ื‘ืงืฉื•ืช, ืื ื ืฆื•ืจ ืื™ืชื ื• ืงืฉืจ ื‘ืืžืฆืขื•ืช ื˜ื•ืคืก ื™ืฆื™ืจืช ืงืฉืจ ื–ื”.

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