How to build a business that lasts 100 years | Martin Reeves

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Prevoditelj: Zdeslav Markoč Recezent: Ivan Stamenković
00:12
Imagine that you are a product designer.
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Zamislite da ste dizajner proizvoda.
00:16
And you've designed a product,
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Dizajnirali ste proizvod,
novu vrstu proizvoda, zvanu ljudski imunološki sustav.
00:18
a new type of product, called the human immune system.
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Pokušavate ga prodati
00:23
You're pitching this product
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00:24
to a skeptical, strictly no-nonsense manager.
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skeptičnom, strogo ozbiljnom poslovođi.
00:28
Let's call him Bob.
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Nazovimo ga Bob.
00:29
I think we all know at least one Bob, right?
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Svi poznajemo barem jednog Boba, zar ne?
00:33
How would that go?
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Kako bi to izgledalo?
00:35
Bob, I've got this incredible idea
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Bobe, imam odličnu ideju
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for a completely new type of personal health product.
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za potpuno novu vrstu proizvoda za osobno zdravlje.
00:40
It's called the human immune system.
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Zove se ljudski imunološki sustav.
00:43
I can see from your face that you're having some problems with this.
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Vidim ti na licu da imaš problem s ovime.
00:46
Don't worry. I know it's very complicated.
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Ne brini. Znam da je vrlo komplicirano.
00:48
I don't want to take you through the gory details,
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Ne želim ti opisivati razne detalje.
00:51
I just want to tell you about some of the amazing features of this product.
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Samo ti želim reći nešto o sjajnim karakteristikama ovog proizvoda.
00:55
First of all, it cleverly uses redundancy
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Kao prvo, pametno koristi redundanciju
00:58
by having millions of copies of each component --
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tako što ima milijune kopija svakog sastavnog dijela --
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leukocytes, white blood cells --
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leukocita, bijelih krvnih stanica --
prije nego što su zapravo potrebni,
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before they're actually needed,
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01:05
to create a massive buffer against the unexpected.
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da bi stvorio veliki štit protiv neočekivanog.
01:10
And it cleverly leverages diversity
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I pametno poboljšava raznolikost
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by having not just leukocytes but B cells, T cells,
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tako što nema samo leukocite, već ima i B stanice, T stanice,
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natural killer cells, antibodies.
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prirodne stanice ubojice, antitijela.
01:19
The components don't really matter.
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Sastavni dijelovi nisu važni.
01:21
The point is that together,
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Stvar je u tome da se zajedno,
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this diversity of different approaches can cope with more or less anything
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ta raznolikost različitih pristupa, može nositi s gotovo bilo čime
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that evolution has been able to throw up.
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što nam je evolucija uspjela donijeti.
01:31
And the design is completely modular.
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I dizajn je u potpunosti modularan.
01:35
You have the surface barrier of the human skin,
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Postoji površinska barijera ljudske kože,
postoji prirođen imunološki sustav koji brzo reagira
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you have the very rapidly reacting innate immune system
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01:42
and then you have the highly targeted adaptive immune system.
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i zatim postoji najčešće ciljani prilagodljivi imunološki sustav.
Stvar je u tome da ukoliko jedan sustav podbaci, drugi ga može zamijeniti,
01:47
The point is, that if one system fails, another can take over,
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creating a virtually foolproof system.
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praktično stvarajući potpuno siguran sustav.
Vidim da te gubim Bobe, ali ostani sa mnom,
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I can see I'm losing you, Bob, but stay with me,
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01:57
because here is the really killer feature.
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jer evo stvarno najbolje karakteristike.
02:01
The product is completely adaptive.
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Proizvod je u potpunosti prilagodljiv.
02:04
It's able to actually develop targeted antibodies
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Sposoban je proizvesti potrebna antitijela
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to threats that it's never even met before.
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za prijetnje koje još nikada nije sreo.
02:12
It actually also does this with incredible prudence,
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Zapravo, čini to s nevjerojatnom razboritošću,
otkriva i reagira na svaku malu prijetnju,
02:17
detecting and reacting to every tiny threat,
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02:21
and furthermore, remembering every previous threat,
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i štoviše, pamti svaku prethodnu prijetnju
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in case they are ever encountered again.
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u slučaju da se ponovno susretnu.
02:28
What I'm pitching you today is actually not a stand-alone product.
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Što ti pokazujem danas, zapravo nije samostalni proizvod.
02:33
The product is embedded in the larger system of the human body,
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Proizvod je usađen u veći sustav ljudskog tijela,
i radi u potpunoj usklađenosti s tim sustavom,
02:38
and it works in complete harmony with that system,
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to create this unprecedented level of biological protection.
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kako bi stvorili ovu do sada neviđenu biološku zaštitu.
Stoga, Bobe, reci mi iskreno, što misliš o mom proizvodu?
02:44
So Bob, just tell me honestly, what do you think of my product?
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02:48
And Bob may say something like,
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A Bob bi mogao reći nešto kao,
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I sincerely appreciate the effort and passion
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Iskreno cijenim trud i strast
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that have gone into your presentation,
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koji su uloženi u tvoju prezentaciju,
02:56
blah blah blah --
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bla bla bla --
02:57
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
Ali iskreno, potpuna je bezvezarija.
02:59
But honestly, it's total nonsense.
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Čini se da govoriš da je prodajna prednost tvog proizvoda
03:04
You seem to be saying that the key selling points of your product
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03:07
are that it is inefficient and complex.
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to što je neučinkovit i kompleksan.
03:10
Didn't they teach you 80-20?
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Nisu li te učili o Paretovom pravilu?
03:13
And furthermore, you're saying that this product is siloed.
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Nadalje, govoriš mi da je ovaj proizvod izoliran.
03:17
It overreacts,
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On pretjeruje,
izmišlja stvari putem
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makes things up as it goes along
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03:20
and is actually designed for somebody else's benefit.
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i zapravo je dizajniran za tuđu dobrobit.
03:23
I'm sorry to break it to you, but I don't think this one is a winner.
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Žao mi je što ti moram to reći, ali ne mislim da je to ono što tražimo.
03:27
If we went with Bob's philosophy,
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Kada bismo pratili Bobovu filozofiju,
03:29
I think we'd actually end up with a more efficient immune system.
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mislim da bismo na kraju završili s puno efikasnijim imunološkim sustavom.
03:32
And efficiency is always important in the short term.
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A efikasnost je uvijek važna u kratkom roku.
03:36
Less complex, more efficient, more bang for the buck.
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Manje kompleksno, više efikasno, više vrijednosti za novac.
03:40
Who could say no to that?
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Tko bi mogao tome reći ne?
Nažalost, postoji jedan vrlo mali problem,
03:42
Unfortunately, there's one very tiny problem,
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03:44
and that is that the user of this product, you or I,
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a to je taj da bi korisnik ovog proizvoda, vi ili ja,
03:47
would probably die within one week of the next winter,
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najvjerojatnije umro u roku od tjedan dana sljedeće zime,
03:51
when we encountered a new strain of the influenza virus.
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kada se susretnemo s novom vrstom virusa gripe.
03:57
I first became interested in biology and business,
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Prvi sam se puta zainteresirao za biologijom i ekonomijom,
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and longevity and resilience,
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dugovječnosti i otpornosti,
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when I was asked a very unusual question
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kada sam bio upitan vrlo neuobičajeno pitanje
od strane direktora globalne tehnološke kompanije.
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by the CEO of a global tech company.
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04:09
And the question was:
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A pitanje je glasilo:
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What do we have to do to make sure that our company lasts 100 years?
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Što moramo napraviti da bismo bili sigurni da će naša kompanija trajati 100 godina?
04:18
A seemingly innocent question,
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Naizgled jednostavno pitanje,
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but actually, it's a little trickier than you might think,
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ali zapravo, kompliciranije nego što biste pomislili,
04:24
considering that the average US public company now
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uzimavši u obzir da prosječna kompanija u SAD-u danas
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can expect a life span of only 30 years.
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može očekivati vijek trajanja od samo 30 godina.
To je manje od polovine životnog vijeka
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That is less than half of the life span
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that its employees can expect to enjoy.
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koji njeni zaposlenici mogu očekivati.
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Now, if you were the CEO of such a company,
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I sada, da ste vi direktor takve kompanije,
04:42
badgered by investors and buffeted by change,
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proganjani od strane investitora i izmučeni promjenama,
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we might forgive you for not even worrying too much
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mogli bismo vam oprostiti za to što ne brinete puno
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about what happens 30 years out.
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o tome što će biti za 30 godina.
Ali evo nešto što bi vas trebalo držati budnima noću:
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But here's something that should keep you awake at night:
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the probability that your company will not be around in five year's time,
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vjerojatnost da vaša kompanija neće postojati kroz pet godina,
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on average, is now a staggering 32 percent.
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u prosjeku je sada na zapanjujućih 32 posto.
To je mogućnost jedan od tri da će vaša kompanija biti preuzeta
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That's a one in three chance that your company will be taken over
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05:08
or will fail within just five years.
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ili će propasti kroz samo pet godina.
05:13
Let's come back to our tech CEO's question.
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Vratimo se sada na direktorovo pitanje.
Gdje bolje potražiti savjet nego u prirodi,
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Where better to turn for advice than nature,
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05:19
that's been in the business of life and death
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koja je u poslu života i smrti
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for longer than any company?
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više nego ijedna druga kompanija?
Kao posrnuli biolog,
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As a lapsed biologist,
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05:28
I decided to immediately call a real biologist,
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odmah sam odlučio nazvati pravog biologa,
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my friend Simon Levin,
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svog prijatelja Simona Levina,
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Professor of Biology and Mathematics at Princeton University.
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profesora biologije i matematike na Princeton sveučilištu.
05:38
Together, we looked at a variety of biological systems,
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Zajedno smo pogledali različite biološke sustave,
krečući od prirodnih tropskih prašuma
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ranging from natural tropical rainforests
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through to managed forests and fisheries.
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preko kontroliranih šuma i ribogojilišta.
05:48
And we asked ourselves the question:
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I zapitali smo se sljedeće pitanje:
Što čini ove sustave otpornima i izdržljivima?
05:50
What makes these systems resilient and enduring?
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I zaključili smo da se šest istih principa,
05:56
And what we found was that the same six principles
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06:00
that we saw underpinning the miracle of the human immune system
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koji podzidaju čudo ljudskog imunuloškog sustava,
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actually cropped up again and again,
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zapravo pojavljuju ponovno i ponovno,
od suvišnosti pa sve do usađenosti.
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from redundancy through to embeddedness.
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U stvari, ovi su principi, koje smo pronašli u biološki izdržljivim sustavima,
06:11
In fact, we saw these principles not only in biologically enduring systems,
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06:15
we also found them being very characteristic
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vrlo karakteristični
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of long-lived social systems,
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za dugovječne društvene sustave
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like the Roman Empire and the Catholic Church,
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kao što su Rimsko Carstvo i Katolička Crkva,
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believe it or not.
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vjerovali ili ne.
Također smo pogledali među poduzeća,
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We also went on to look at business,
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te shvatili da su te iste osobine krasile i poduzeća
06:26
and found that these very same properties also characterized businesses
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06:30
that were resilient and long-lived,
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koja su otporna i dugovječna,
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and we noted their absence from ones which were short-lived.
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a njihov smo nedostatak uočili u onima koja su kratkog vijeka.
Hajdemo prvo pogledati što se dogodi kada se imunološki sustav kompanije
06:39
Let's first take a look at what happens when the corporate immune system
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collapses.
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sruši.
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This beautiful building is part of the Shitennoji Temple Complex
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Ova prekrasna zgrada dio je kompleksa Shitennoji hrama
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in Osaka, Japan.
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u Osaki, Japanu.
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In fact, it's one of the oldest temples in Japan.
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U stvari, to je jedan od najstarijih hramova u Japanu.
Izgradio ga je korejski obrtnik,
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It was built by a Korean artisan,
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because at the time, Japan was not yet building temples.
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jer u to vrijeme Japan još nije gradio hramove.
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And this Korean artisan went on to found a temple-building company.
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I taj je korejski obrntik krenuo dalje te osnovao poduzeće za izgradnju hramova.
Nevjerojatno, ali njegovo je poduzeće, Kongo Gumi,
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Amazingly, his company, Kongō Gumi,
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07:10
was still around 1,428 years later.
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postojalo i 1428 godina kasnije.
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In fact, it became the oldest continuously operating company
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U stvari, to je postalo najstarije poduzeće koje kontinuirano posluje
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in the world.
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u svijetu.
07:21
So how is Kongō Gumi doing today?
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Pa kako je Kongo Gumi danas?
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Not too well, I'm afraid.
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Ne predobro, bojim se.
07:28
It borrowed very heavily
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Posuđivalo je jako puno
07:29
during the bubble period of the Japanese economy,
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tijekom velikog rasta Japanske ekonomije
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to invest in real estate.
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kako bi uložilo u nekretnine.
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And when the bubble burst, it couldn't refinance its loans.
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A kada je došla recesija, nije moglo otplatiti svoje dugove.
07:38
The company failed,
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Poduzeće je propalo
07:39
and it was taken over by a major construction company.
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i preuzela ga je velika građevinska kompanija.
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Tragically, after 40 generations of very careful stewardship
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Tragično, nakon 40 generacija vrlo opreznog upravljanja
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by the Kongō family,
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od strane Kongo obitelji,
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Kongō Gumi succumbed to a spectacular lapse
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Kongo Gumi podleglo je spektakularnom propadanju
07:55
in the ability to apply a principle of prudence.
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u mogućnosti da primijeni načelo razboritosti.
08:00
Speaking of company failures:
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Govoreći o propasti kompanija :
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we're all familiar with the failure of Kodak,
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svi smo upoznati s propašću Kodaka,
08:06
the company that declared bankruptcy
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kompanije koja je proglasila bankrot
08:09
in January 2012.
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u siječnju 2012. godine.
08:13
Much more interesting, however, is the question:
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Puno je zanimljivije, doduše, pitanje :
08:17
Why did Fujifilm --
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Zašto je Fujifilm --
08:19
same product, same pressures from digital technology, same time --
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isti proizvod, isti pritisci digitalne tehnologije, ista vremena --
08:24
why was Fujifilm able to survive and flourish?
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zašto je Fujifilm bio sposoban preživjeti i napredovati?
08:30
Fujifilm used its capabilities in chemistry, material science and optics
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Fujifilm je iskoristio svoja znanja u kemiji, materijalnoj znanosti i optici
08:37
to diversify into a number of areas,
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kako bi diversificirao u brojnim područjima,
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ranging from cosmetics to pharmaceuticals,
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krečući od kozmetike do farmacije,
od medicinskih sustava do biomaterijala.
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to medical systems to biomaterials.
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Neke su od ovih diversifikacija propale.
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Some of these diversification attempts failed.
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08:49
But in aggregate,
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Ali u konačnom zbroju,
bio je sposoban dovoljno prilagoditi svoj portfelj
08:51
it was able to adapt its portfolio sufficiently
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to survive and flourish.
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kako bi preživio i napredovao.
08:58
As the CEO, Mr. Komori, put it,
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Kako je direktor, gospodin Komori, rekao :
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the strategy succeeded because it had "more pockets and drawers"
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"Strategija je uspjela jer su imali više "ladica i džepova"
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than the rivals.
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nego konkurenti."
Mislio je, naravno,
09:07
He meant, of course,
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that they were able to create more options than the rivals.
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da su bili sposobni stvoriti više opcija nego konkurenti.
Fujifilm je preživio jer je primijenio načela razboritosti,
09:13
Fujifilm survived because it applied the principles of prudence,
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09:17
diversity
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različitosti
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and adaptation.
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i prilagodljivosti.
09:21
A catastrophic factory fire, like the one we see here,
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Katastrofalni požar u tvornici, kao što vidimo jedan ovdje,
09:25
completely wiped out, in one evening,
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u potpunosti je uništio, u jednoj večeri,
09:28
the only plant which supplied Toyota with valves for car-braking systems.
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jedinu tvornicu koja je opskrbljivala Toyotu ventilima za kočnice automobila.
09:36
The ultimate test of resilience.
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Ultimativni ispit otpornosti.
09:40
Car production ground to a screeching halt.
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Proizvodnja automobila došla je do cvilećeg zastoja.
09:44
How was it, then, that Toyota was able to recover car production?
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Kako je onda Toyota bila sposobna oporaviti proizvodnju automobila?
09:50
Can you imagine how long it took?
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Možete li zamisliti koliko je trajalo?
09:52
Just five days.
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Samo pet dana.
Od situacije u kojoj nemaju kočne ventile do potpunog oporavka u pet dana.
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From having no braking valves to complete recovery in five days.
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09:58
How was this possible?
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Kako je to moguće?
10:00
Toyota managed its network of suppliers in such a collaborative manner
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Toyota je organizirala svoju mrežu dobavljača na suradnički način
koji je omogućio vrlo brzi i lak rad s dobavljačima
10:06
that it could work very quickly and smoothly with suppliers
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10:10
to repurpose production,
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da preusmjere proizvodnju,
da popune kapacitet nedostajećih kočnih ventila
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fill the missing braking valve capacity
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10:15
and have car production come online again.
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te da se proizvodnja automobila ponovno pokrene.
Toyota je primijenila načela modularnosti svoje dobavljačke mreže,
10:20
Toyota applied the principles of modularity of its supply network,
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embeddedness in an integrated system
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ugrađenosti integriranog sustava
i funkcionalnog preobilja da bi lako prenamijenila
10:27
and the functional redundancy to be able to repurpose, smoothly,
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existing capacity.
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postojeći kapacitet.
Sada, na sreću, malo kompanija podliježe katastrofalnim požarima.
10:34
Now fortunately, few companies succumb to catastrophic fires.
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10:39
But we do read in the newspaper every day about companies
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Ali i dalje svakodnevno čitamo u vijestima o kompanijama
10:42
succumbing to the disruption of technology.
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koje podliježu prekidu tehnologije.
10:46
How is it, then, that the consumer optics giant Essilor
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Kako je onda moguće da je gigant potrošačke optike Essilor
10:50
is able to avoid technology disruption, and even profit from it?
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sposoban izbjeći prekide u tehnologiji, te čak izvući profit iz toga?
I da, tehnološki prekid nije velika stvar
10:55
And yes, technology disruption is not only a big deal
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in software and electronics.
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samo u industriji softvera i elektronike.
11:01
Essilor carefully scans the competitive environment
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Essilor oprezno skenira konkurentski okoliš
11:06
for potentially disruptive technologies.
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zbog mogućih prekida u tehnologiji.
11:09
It acquires those technologies very early,
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On steče novu tehnologiju vrlo rano,
11:12
before they've become expensive or competitors have mobilized around them,
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prije nego što postane skupa ili se konkurenti mobiliziraju oko nje,
te zatim sam razvija tu tehnologiju,
11:16
and it then develops those technologies itself,
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11:19
even at the risk of failure
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čak i s rizikom neuspjeha
11:21
or the risk of self-disruption.
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ili rizikom samostalnog prekida.
11:24
Essilor stays ahead of its game,
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Essilor je uvijek korak ispred,
te tako ostvaruje izvanredan učinak
11:27
and has delivered spectacular performance
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već više od 40 godina,
11:29
for over 40 years,
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11:30
by using the principles of prudence and adaptation.
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koristeći načela razboritosti i prilagodljivosti.
11:35
OK, if these principles are so powerful, you might be thinking,
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U redu, ako su ova načela toliko moćna, vjerojatno mislite,
11:39
why are they not commonplace in business?
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zašto nisu često primijenjena u poslu?
11:42
Why do we not use these words every day?
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Zašto ne koristimo te riječi svakodnevno?
11:45
Well, change has to first start in the mind.
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Pa, promjena mora prvo započeti u glavi.
11:47
If we think back to our pitch to Bob,
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Ako se sjetimo našeg nagovaranja Boba,
kako bismo primijenili načela
11:50
in order to apply the principles
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11:52
that underpin the miracle of the human immune system,
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koja podupiru čudo ljudskog imunološkog sustava,
11:55
we first need to think differently
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prvo moramo početi razmišljati drugačije
11:58
about business.
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o poslu.
11:59
Now typically, when we think about business,
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Sada, tipično, kada razmišljamo o poslu,
12:02
we use what I call "mechanical thinking."
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koristimo, kako ja to zovem, "mehaničko razmišljanje".
12:05
We set goals,
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Postavljamo ciljeve,
12:07
we analyze problems,
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analiziramo probleme,
12:09
we construct and we adhere to plans,
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konstruiramo i držimo se planova,
12:11
and more than anything else,
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i više nego išta drugo,
12:12
we stress efficiency and short-term performance.
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naglašavamo efikasnost i kratkoročni učinak.
12:16
Now, don't get me wrong --
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Nemojte krivo shvatiti --
12:17
this is a splendidly practical and effective way
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ovo je savršeno praktičan i učinkovit način
12:20
of addressing relatively simple challenges
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za oslovljavanje relativno jednostavnih izazova
12:23
in relatively stable environments.
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u relativno stabilnim okruženjima.
To je način na koji Bob -- i vjerojatno mnogi od nas, uključujući mene --
12:26
It's the way that Bob -- and probably many of us, myself included --
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12:29
process most business problems we're faced with every day.
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obrađujemo većinu svakodnevnih poslovnih problema.
12:33
In fact, it was a pretty good mental model for business --
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U stvari, to je bio vrlo dobar mentalni model za poslovanje --
općenito --
12:37
overall --
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12:38
until about the mid-1980s,
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do sredine 1980-ih,
12:40
when the conjunction of globalization
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kada je spoj globalizacije
i revolucije u tehnologiji i telekomunikaciji
12:44
and a revolution in technology and telecommunications
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12:46
made business far more dynamic and unpredictable.
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učinio poslovanje više dinamičnim i nepredvidljivim.
12:49
But what about those more dynamic and unpredictable situations
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Ali što je s tim dinamičnijim i nepredvidljivim situacijama
12:52
that we now increasingly face?
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s kojima se danas sve više susrećemo?
12:55
I think in addition to the mechanical thinking,
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Mislim da, uz dodatak mehaničkom razmišljanju,
moramo savladati umijeće biološkog razmišljanja
12:58
we now need to master the art of biological thinking,
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13:02
as embodied by our six principles.
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koje utjelovljuje naših šest načela.
13:05
In other words, we need to think more modestly and subtly
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Drugim riječima, moramo razmišljati skromnije i suptilnije
13:08
about when and how
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o tome kada i kako
13:11
we can shape, rather than control,
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možemo oblikovati, rađe nego kontrolirati,
13:14
unpredictable and complex situations.
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nepredvidljive i kompleksne situacije.
13:19
It's a little like the difference between throwing a ball
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To je pomalo kao razlika između bacanja lopte
13:23
and releasing a bird.
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i puštanja ptice.
13:25
The ball would head in a straight line,
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Lopta bi se kretala pravocrtno,
13:27
probably towards the intended target,
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najvjerojatnije prema određenoj meti,
13:29
and the bird certainly would not.
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a ptica zasigurno ne bi.
13:35
So what do you think?
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Stoga, što mislite?
Zvuči pomalo nepraktično, malo teoretski, možda?
13:37
Sounds a little impractical, a little theoretical, perhaps?
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13:41
Not at all.
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Nipošto.
13:43
Every small entrepreneurial company
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Svaka mala poduzetnička kompanija
prirodno razmišlja i djeluje biološki.
13:47
naturally thinks and acts biologically.
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13:50
Why?
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Zašto?
13:51
Because it lacks the resources to shape its environment
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Zato što joj nedostaju resursi da oblikuje svoj okoliš
13:54
through brute force.
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brutalnom silom.
13:55
It lacks the scale to buffer change,
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Nedostaje joj veličina da ublaži promjene,
13:59
and it's constantly thinking about the tough odds
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te konstantno razmišlja o teškim izgledima
14:02
for a start-up to survive.
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same mlade kompanije da preživi.
14:06
Now, the irony is, of course,
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Ironija je, naravno,
što je svaka velika kompanija počela kao mala, poduzetnička kompanija.
14:08
that every large company started off as a small, entrepreneurial company.
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14:11
But along the way somewhere,
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Ali su negdje usput,
14:13
many have lost this ability to think and act biologically.
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mnoge izgubile umijeće da razmišljaju i djeluju biološki.
14:18
They need to rejuvenate their ability to think biologically
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Moraju pomladiti svoje umijeće da razmišljaju biološki
14:23
in order to survive and thrive in today's environment.
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kako bi preživjele i napredovale u današnjem okruženju.
14:28
So let's not just think about short-term performance.
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Stoga, nemojmo razmišljati samo o kratkoročnom učinku.
Svaka kompanija koju poznajem provodi puno vremena
14:32
Every company I know spends plenty of time
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14:34
thinking about the central question of strategy:
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razmišljajući o centralnom pitanju strategije :
14:37
How good is our competitive game?
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Kolika je naša konkurentost?
14:39
In addition, let's also consider
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U dodatku, razmislimo također
o drugom, više biološkom, ali jednako važnom pitanju :
14:42
the second, more biological and equally important question:
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How long will that game last?
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Koliko će ta konkurentnost trajati?
Hvala vam lijepa.
14:49
Thank you very much.
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14:50
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
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