4 environmental 'heresies' | Stewart Brand

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Because of what I'm about to say,
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Zbog onoga što namjeravam izreći,
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I really should establish my green credentials.
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stvarno vam moram dokazati svoja zelena uvjerenja.
00:21
When I was a small boy, I took my pledge
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Kad sam bio maleni dječak, obavezao sam se
00:23
as an American, to save and faithfully defend from waste
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kao Amerikanac čuvati i vjerno braniti od pustošenja
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the natural resources of my country,
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prirodne resurse svoje zemlje.
00:28
its air, soil and minerals, its forests, waters and wildlife.
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Njen zrak, tlo i minerale, njene šume, vode i divljinu.
00:31
And I've stuck to that.
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I na tome sam zaglavio.
00:33
Stanford, I majored in ecology and evolution.
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Stanford, diplomirao sam ekologiju i evoluciju.
00:37
1968, I put out the Whole Earth Catalog. Was "mister natural" for a while.
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1968. godine izdao sam "Katalog cijele Zemlje". Neko vrijeme bio sam "mister prirode".
00:41
And then worked for the Jerry Brown administration.
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Onda sam radio za administraciju Jerryja Browna,
00:44
The Brown administration, and a bunch of my friends,
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te sam s grupom prijatelja
00:47
basically leveled the energy efficiency of California,
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zapravo ujednačio energetsku efikasnost Kalifornije.
00:50
so it's the same now, 30 years later,
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Stoga je danas ista kao i prije trideset godina.
00:53
even though our economy has gone up 80 percent, per capita.
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Iako je u međuvremenu naša ekonomija narasla za 80% po glavi stanovnika,
00:57
And we are putting out less greenhouse gasses than any other state.
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Mi izbacujemo manje stakleničkih plinova nego ijedna druga država.
01:00
California is basically the equivalent of Europe, in this.
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Kalifornija je u biti jednaka Europi, po tome.
01:03
This year, Whole Earth Catalog has a supplement that I'll preview today,
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Ove godine, "Katalog cijele Zemlje" ima dodatak kojega danas prikazujem,
01:08
called Whole Earth Discipline.
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nazvan "Disciplina cijele Zemlje".
01:11
The dominant demographic event of our time
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Dominantni demografski događaj našega doba
01:13
is this screamingly rapid urbanization
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je strahovito ubrzana urbanizacija
01:16
that we have going on.
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u kojoj se sada nalazimo.
01:18
By mid-century we'll be about 80 percent urban,
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Do sredine stoljeća biti ćemo oko 80% urbani.
01:22
and that's mostly in the developing world,
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I to većinom u zemljama u razvoju,
01:25
where that's happening.
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gdje se ovo događa.
01:27
It's interesting, because history is driven to a large degree
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To je zanimljivo. Zato što u velikoj mjeri
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by the size of cities.
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veličina gradova pokreće povijest.
01:32
The developing world now has all of the biggest cities,
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Zemlje u razvoju sada imaju sve najveće gradove.
01:35
and they are developing three times faster than the developed countries,
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I one se razvijaju tri puta brže od razvijenih zemalja.
01:38
and nine times bigger.
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I devet puta su veći.
01:40
It's qualitatively different.
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To je kvalitativna razlika.
01:43
They are the drivers of history, as we see by looking at history.
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One su pokretači povijesti, a to vidimo promatrajući povijest.
01:45
1,000 years ago this is what the world looked like.
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Prije 1.000 godina svijet je izgledao ovako.
01:49
Well we now have a distribution of urban power
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Sada imamo raspodjelu urbanih sila
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similar to what we had 1,000 years ago.
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sličnu onoj prije 1.000 godina.
01:55
In other words, the rise of the West,
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Drugim riječima, uspon Zapada,
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dramatic as it was, is over.
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dramatičan kakav je bio, završen je.
02:01
The aggregate numbers are absolutely overwhelming:
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Zbirne brojke apsolutno su moćne.
02:04
1.3 million people a week coming to town,
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1.3 milijuna ljudi tjedno dolazilo je u grad,
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decade after decade.
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desetljeće za desetljećem.
02:09
What's really going on?
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Što se ustvari događa?
02:11
Well, what's going on is the villages of the world are emptying out.
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Dakle, događa se pražnjenje sela širom svijeta.
02:14
Subsistence farming is drying up basically.
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U suštini presušuje poljodjelstvo namijenjeno prehrani vlastite obitelji.
02:17
People are following opportunity into town.
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Ljudi slijede povoljne prilike u gradove.
02:19
And this is why.
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A evo zašto.
02:21
I used to have a very romantic idea about villages,
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Nekada sam imao vrlo romantične ideje o selu
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and it's because I never lived in one.
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a to je zato što nikad nisam živio u nekom.
02:26
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
02:27
Because in town --
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Zato što u gradu –
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this is the bustling squatter city
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ovo je bučni ilegalni grad
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of Kibera, near Nairobi --
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Kibera, u blizini Nairobia.
02:35
they see action. They see opportunity.
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Oni vide akciju. Oni vide mogućnosti.
02:37
They see a cash economy that they were not able to participate in
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Oni vide monetarnu ekonomiju u kojoj nisu bili sposobni sudjelovati
02:40
back in the subsistence farm.
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iz pozadine samoprehranjujućih farmi.
02:43
As you go around these places there's plenty of aesthetics.
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Kada se prošećete po tim mjestima evidentno je obilje estetike.
02:45
There is plenty going on.
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Svašta se događa.
02:47
They are poor, but they are intensely urban. And they are intensely creative.
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Oni su siromašni, ali su intenzivno urbani. I intenzivno su kreativni.
02:51
The aggregate numbers now
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Zbirne brojke govore kako
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are that basically squatters,
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u osnovi ilegalci,
02:56
all one billion of them, are building the urban world,
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milijarda njih, grade urbani svijet.
02:59
which means they're building the world --
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Ovo znači da oni zidaju urbani svijet.
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personally, one by one, family by family,
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Osobno, jedan po jedan, obitelj po obitelj,
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clan by clan, neighborhood by neighborhood.
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klan za klanom, susjedstvo za susjedstvom.
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They start flimsy and they get substantial as time goes by.
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Započnu neprimjetno i postanu značajni kako vrijeme prolazi.
03:11
They even build their own infrastructure.
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Oni čak grade vlastitu infrastrukturu.
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Well, steal their own infrastructure, at first.
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Ustvari, ukradu vlastitu infrastrukturu, u početku.
03:16
Cable TV, water, the whole gamut, all gets stolen.
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Kablovsku TV, vodu, cijela skala, sve ukradeno.
03:19
And then gradually gentrifies.
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A onda polako postaju srednja klasa.
03:23
It is not the case that slums undermine prosperity,
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U stvari slamovi ne potkopavaju prosperitet.
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not the working slums; they help create prosperity.
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Neradnički slamovi, oni pomažu stvoriti ga.
03:30
So in a town like Mumbai, which is half slums,
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Tako gradovi poput Mumbaia, čiju polovinu čine slamovi,
03:33
it's 1/6th of the GDP of India.
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predstavlja 1/6 BDP-a Indije.
03:36
Social capital in the slums is at its most urban and dense.
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Socijalni kapital tih slamova je najurbaniji i najgušći.
03:41
These people are valuable as a group.
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Ti su ljudi dragocjeni kao grupa.
03:44
And that's how they work.
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I tako oni djeluju.
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There is a lot of people who think about all these poor people,
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Mnogo je ljudi koji razmišljaju o svim tim siromašnim ljudima.
03:49
"Oh there's terrible things. We've got to fix their housing."
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"O, to je strašno. Moramo srediti njihovo stanovanje."
03:51
It used to be, "Oh we've got to get them phone service."
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Nekad je bilo: "O moramo im riješiti telefonske instalacije."
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Now they're showing us how they do their phone service.
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Sad oni pokazuju nama kako se rade telefonske usluge.
03:56
Famine mostly is a rural event now.
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Oskudica je danas uglavnom ruralno događanje.
03:58
There are things they care about.
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Postoje stvari do kojih im je stalo.
04:00
And this is where we can help.
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I to je ono u čemu mi možemo pomoći.
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And the nations they're in can help.
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I nacije u kojima oni jesu mogu pomoći.
04:05
And they are helping each other solve these issues.
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I oni pomažu jedni drugima riješiti ovu problematiku.
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And you go to a nice dense place like this slum in Mumbai.
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I onda odete u krasno gusto naseljeno mjesto kakav je ovaj slam u Mumbaiju.
04:12
You look at that lane on the right.
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Pogledajte onaj red na desno.
04:14
And you can ask, "Okay what's going on there?"
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I možete pitati: "No dobro što se tamo događa?“
04:16
The answer is, "Everything."
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Odgovor je: "Sve."
04:19
This is better than a mall. It's much denser.
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To je bolje od šoping centra. Mnogo je gušće.
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It's much more interactive.
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Više je interaktivno.
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And the scale is terrific.
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A raspon je nevjerojatan.
04:26
The main event is, these are not people crushed by poverty.
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Glavni događaj je, ovo nisu ljudi shrvani siromaštvom.
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These are people busy getting out of poverty
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Ovo su ljudi zaposleni izlaženjem iz siromaštva
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just as fast as they can.
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onoliko brzo koliko se može.
04:34
They're helping each other do it.
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Oni pomažu jedni drugima učiniti to.
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They're doing it through an outlaw thing,
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Čine to protuzakonito,
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the informal economy.
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neformalnom ekonomijom.
04:40
The informal economy, it's sort of like dark energy in astrophysics:
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neformalnoj ekonomiji je nešto kao tamna energija u astrofizici.
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it's not supposed to be there, but it's huge.
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Ne bi trebala biti tamo, ali je ogromna.
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We don't understand how it works yet, but we have to.
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Još ne razumijemo kako funkcionira. Ali morat ćemo.
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Furthermore, people in the informal economy,
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Nadalje, ljudi u neformalnoj ekonomiji,
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the gray economy --
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sivoj ekonomiji,
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as time goes by,
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kako vrijeme prolazi,
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crime is happening around them. And they can join the criminal world,
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kriminal se događa oko njih. I oni se mogu pridružiti svijetu kriminala.
04:59
or they can join the legitimate world.
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Ili se mogu pridružiti legitimnom svijetu.
05:03
We should be able to make that choice
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Mi bismo trebali biti u stanju učiniti im izbor
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easier for them to get toward the legitimate world,
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prema legitimnom svijetu lakšim.
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because if we don't, they will go toward the criminal world.
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Zato što će u suprotnom otići prema svijetu kriminala.
05:11
There's all kinds of activity.
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Postoje sve moguće vrste aktivnosti.
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In Dharavi the slum performs not only
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U Dharavi slamovi rade ne samo
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a lot of services for itself,
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puno uslužnih djelatnosti sebi samima,
05:18
but it performs services for the city at large.
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nego i gradu u cjelini.
05:21
And one of the main events are these ad-hoc schools.
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A jedno od glavnih događanja su te ad hoc škole.
05:24
Parents pool their money to hire some local teachers
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Roditelji sakupe svoj novac kako bi zaposlili lokalne učitelje
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to a private, tiny, unofficial school.
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za privatne, malene, neslužbene škole.
05:30
Education is more possible in the cities, and that changes the world.
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Za edukaciju ima više mogućnosti u gradovima. A to mijenja svijet.
05:35
So you see some interesting, typical, urban things.
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I sad vidite neke zanimljive, tipično urbane stvari.
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So one thing slammed up against another,
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I tako se stvari sudaraju jedna s drugom,
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such as in Sao Paulo here.
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kao što je to ovdje u Sao Paulu.
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That's what cities do. That's how they create value,
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To je ono što rade gradovi. Tako oni stvaraju dobit,
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is by slamming things together.
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sudaranjem stvari jednih o druge.
05:46
In this case, supply right next to demand.
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U ovom slučaju, ponuda odmah pored potražnje.
05:48
So the maids and the gardeners and the guards
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Kao i služavke i vrtlari i čuvari
05:50
that live in this lively part of town on the left
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koji žive u ovom živopisnom dijelu grada na lijevoj
05:53
walk to work, in the boring, rich neighborhood.
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stazi prema poslu, u dosadnom, bogatom susjedstvu.
05:58
Proximity is amazing.
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Blizina je fantastična.
06:01
We are learning about how dense proximity can be.
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Upravo učimo koliko gusta može biti blizina.
06:16
Connectivity between the city and the country
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Povezanost između grada i pokrajine
06:19
is what's going to keep the country good,
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je ono što će pokrajinu učiniti dobrom.
06:22
because the city has interesting ways of doing things.
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Zato što grad ima zanimljive načine obavljanja stvari.
06:34
This is what makes cities --
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To je ono što stvara gradove -
06:36
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
06:40
this is what makes cities so green in the developing world.
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Ovo je to što gradove čini tako zelenima u zemljama u razvoju.
06:43
Because people leave the poverty trap, an ecological disaster
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Zato što ljudi napuštaju zamku siromaštva, ekološku propast
06:46
of subsistence farms, and head to town.
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poljodjelstva za vlastite potrebe i žure u grad.
06:49
And when they're gone the natural environment
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A kada odu prirodni okoliš se jako
06:51
starts to come back very rapidly.
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brzo oporavlja.
06:53
And those who remain in the village can shift over to cash crops
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A oni koji su ostali u selu mogu se prebaciti na urode kojima se zarađuje
06:56
to send food to the new growing markets in town.
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i slati hranu na nove, rastuće tržnice u gradu.
07:00
So if you want to save a village, you do it with a good road,
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I zato ako želite spasiti sela, napravite to sa dobrim cestama
07:03
or with a good cell phone connection, and ideally some grid electrical power.
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ili sa dobrim telefonskim vezama. A idealno bi bilo i nešto električne mreže.
07:07
So the event is: we're a city planet. That just happened.
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I tako se događa, mi smo planet gradova. To se samo dogodilo.
07:10
More than half.
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Više od polovice.
07:12
The numbers are considerable. A billion live in the squatter cities now.
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Brojke su ogromne. Milijarda ljudi danas živi u ilegalnim gradovima.
07:15
Another billion is expected.
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Druga se očekuje.
07:18
That's more than a sixth of humanity living a certain way.
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Više od jedne šestine čovječanstva živi na ovaj način.
07:21
And that will determine a lot of how we function.
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A ovo će odrediti većinu toga kako ćemo funkcionirati.
07:25
Now, for us environmentalists,
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Sada, za nas zaštitare okoliša,
07:27
maybe the greenest thing about the cities is they diffuse the population bomb.
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možda je najzelenija stvar oko gradova raspršenje populacijske bombe.
07:30
People get into town.
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Ljudi dođu u grad.
07:33
The immediately have fewer children.
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Odmah imaju manje djece.
07:35
They don't even have to get rich yet. Just the opportunity of
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Čak se ne moraju još niti obogatiti. Sama prilika da se
07:38
coming up in the world means they will have fewer, higher-quality kids,
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iziđe u svijet već znači da će imati manje visoko-kvalitetne djece,
07:42
and the birthrate goes down radically.
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a natalitet drastično pada.
07:44
Very interesting side effect here,
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Vrlo zanimljiva nuspojava,
07:46
here's a slide from Phillip Longman.
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ovo je slajd Phillip Longmana.
07:48
Shows what is happening.
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Pokazuje što se događa.
07:50
As we have more and more old people, like me,
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Kako imamo sve više starih ljudi, poput mene,
07:52
and fewer and fewer babies.
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i sve manje i manje djece.
07:54
And they are regionally separated.
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A oni su i regionalno odijeljeni.
07:57
What you're getting is a world which is
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Ono što sada vidite je svijet
07:59
old folks, and old cities, going around doing things the old way,
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starih ljudi, i starih gradova, koji se šeću uokolo i rade stvari na stari način,
08:04
in the north.
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na sjeveru.
08:06
And young people in brand new cities they're inventing,
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I mladi ljudi u sasvim novim gradovima koji investiraju,
08:09
doing new things, in the south.
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rade nove stvari, na jugu.
08:11
Where do you think the action is going to be?
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Što vam se čini gdje će biti akcije?
08:14
Shift of subject. Quickly drop by climate.
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Promijenimo temu. Brzo prijeđimo na klimu.
08:17
The climate news, I'm sorry to say, is going to keep getting worse
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Vijesti će o klimi, žao mi je to reći, pogoršavati
08:19
than we think, faster than we think.
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više nego što mislimo, brže nego što mislimo.
08:22
Climate is a profoundly complex, nonlinear system,
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Klima je duboko kompleksan, nelinearni sustav,
08:24
full of runaway positive feedbacks,
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pun povratnih veza koje ne podliježu kontroli,
08:27
hidden thresholds and irrevocable tipping points.
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skrivenih graničnih i neopozivih točaka preokreta.
08:29
Here's just a few samples.
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Evo samo nekoliko primjera.
08:32
We're going to keep being surprised. And almost all
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Mi se nastavljamo iznenađivati. I gotovo sva ta
08:34
the surprises are going to be bad ones.
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iznenađenja će biti loša.
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From your standpoint this means
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S vaše točke gledišta ovo znači
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a great increase in climate refugees
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veliko povećanje klimatskih izbjeglica
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over the coming decades,
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u narednim desetljećima.
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and what goes along with that, which is resource wars
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A ono što ide s tim, izvorište ratova i
08:46
and chaos wars,
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kaosa ratova,
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as we're seeing in Darfur.
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kao što to vidimo u Darfuru.
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That's what drought does.
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To je ono što čini suša.
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It brings carrying capacity down,
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Spušta kapacitet opstanka.
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and there's not enough carrying capacity
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A ovdje nema dovoljno kapaciteta opstanka
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to support the people. And then you're in trouble.
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da bi podržao te ljude. I onda ste u nevolji.
09:04
Shift to the power situation.
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Prijeđimo na situaciju s energijom.
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Baseload electricity is what it takes to run a city,
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Pogon osnovnog opterećenje električnog sustava pokreće gradove,
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or a city planet.
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odnosno planet gradova.
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So far there is only three sources of baseload electricity:
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Za sada postoje samo tri izvora pogona električnog sustava –
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coal, some gas,
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ugljen, neki plinovi,
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nuclear and hydro.
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nuklearna i hidroenergija.
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Of those, only nuclear and hydro are green.
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Od ovih, samo su nuklearna i hidroenergija zelene.
09:25
Coal is what is causing the climate problems.
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Ugljen je ono što izaziva klimatološke probleme.
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And everyone will keep burning it
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I svi će ga nastaviti sagorijevati
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because it's so cheap, until governments make it expensive.
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jer je tako jeftin, sve dok ga vlade ne učine skupim.
09:32
Wind and solar can't help, because so far we don't have a way to store that energy.
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Vjetar i solarna energija ne mogu pomoći jer za sada nemamo načina da uskladištimo tu energiju.
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So with hydro maxed out,
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Tako možemo s hidroenergijom podignutom do maksimuma
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coal and lose the climate,
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i ugljenom, izgubiti klimu,
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or nuclear, which is the current operating low-carbon source,
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ili nuklearnom, što je trenutačni operativni nisko-ugljični izvor,
09:46
and maybe save the climate.
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možda spasiti klimu.
09:48
And if we can eventually get good solar in space,
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I ako bi smo na kraju dobili dobar solarni pogon,
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that also could help.
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to bi moglo pomoći.
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Because remember, this is what drives the prosperity in the developing world
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Zato što, sjetite se, to je ono što pokreće prosperitet u zemljama u razvoju,
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in the villages and in the cities.
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u selima i gradovima.
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So, between coal and nuclear,
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Tako, između ugljena i nuklearne energije,
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compare their waste products.
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usporedimo njihove otpadne produkte.
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If all of the electricity you used in your lifetime was nuclear,
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Da je sva struja koju ste koristili u svom životu proizvedena u nuklearki,
10:09
the amount of waste that would be added up
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količina smeća koju bi pridonijeli
10:11
would fit in a Coke can.
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stala bi u limenku Cole.
10:14
Whereas a coal-burning plant,
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Dok centrala na ugljen,
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a normal one gigawatt coal plant, burns 80 rail cars of coal a day,
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jedna normalna od elektrana od gigawata, sagorijeva 80 vagona ugljena dnevno.
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each car having 100 tons.
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Svaki vagon teži 100 tona.
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And it puts 18 thousand tons
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A izbacuje 18 tisuća tona
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of carbon dioxide in the air.
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ugljičnog dioksida u zrak.
10:29
So and then when you compare the lifetime emissions
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I tako kad usporedite emisiju
10:31
of these various energy forms,
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iz različitih formi energije tijekom vijeka trajanja,
10:33
nuclear is about even with solar and wind,
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nuklearna je otprilike jednaka vjetru i solarnoj.
10:35
and ahead of solar --
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I ispred solarne.
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oh, I'm sorry -- with hydro and wind, and ahead of solar.
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O, oprostite. S vodom i vjetrom, a ispred solarne.
10:40
And does nuclear really compete with coal?
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Konkurira li nuklearna energija ugljenu?
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Just ask the coal miners in Australia.
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Samo pitajte rudare u Australiji.
10:44
That's where you see some of the source,
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Tamo ćete biti na izvorištu,
10:46
not from my fellow environmentalists,
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ne kod mojih kolega ekologa,
10:48
but from people who feel threatened by nuclear power.
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nego kod ljudi koji se osjećaju ugroženi nuklearnom energijom.
10:51
Well the good news is that
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No dobra je vijest da
10:53
the developing world, but frankly, the whole world,
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su zemlje u razvoju, ma ustvari cijeli svijet,
10:55
is busy building, and starting to build, nuclear reactors.
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zaposleni gradnjom ili počinju graditi, nuklearne reaktore.
10:59
This is good for the atmosphere.
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To je dobro za atmosferu.
11:01
It's good for their prosperity.
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To je dobro za njihov prosperitet.
11:03
I want to point out one interesting thing,
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Želim naglasiti jednu zanimljivu stvar,
11:05
which is that environmentalists like the thing we call micropower.
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a to je da ekolozi vole stvar koju nazivamo mikrocentrala.
11:08
It's supposed to be, I don't know, local solar and wind and cogeneration,
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To bi trebala biti, ne znam, lokalna solarna energija plus vjetar i kogeneracija
11:11
and good things like that.
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to dvoje i druge dobre stvari poput toga.
11:13
But frankly micro-reactors which are just now coming on,
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No iskreno mikro-reaktori koji upravo dolaze,
11:15
might serve even better.
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mogu poslužiti još bolje.
11:17
The Russians, who started this, are building floating reactors,
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Rusi, koji su krenuli s tim, grade ploveće reaktore
11:19
for their new passage, where the ice is melting, north of Russia.
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za svoje nove prolaze tamo gdje se topi led, sjeverno od Rusije.
11:23
And they're selling these floating reactors,
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A oni i prodaju te ploveće reaktore,
11:26
only 35 megawatts, to developing countries.
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samo 35 megavata, zemljama u razvoju.
11:30
Here's the design of an early one from Toshiba.
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Ovo je dizajn jedne rane od Toshibe.
11:32
It's interesting, say, to take a 25-megawatt,
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Zanimljivo, uzmimo recimo 25 megavata,
11:35
25 million watts,
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25 milijuna vata,
11:37
and you compare it to the standard big iron
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i usporedimo to sa standardnim velikim željeznim reaktorom
11:39
of an ordinary Westinghouse or Ariva,
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obično od Westinghouse ili Ariva,
11:43
which is 1.2, 1.6 billion watts.
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koji je 1.2, 1.6 milijardi vata.
11:46
These things are way smaller. They're much more adaptable.
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Te su stvari red veličine manje. One su mnogo prilagodljivije.
11:50
Here's an American design from Lawrence Livermore Lab.
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Ovdje je jedan američki dizajn od Lawrence Livermore Lab.
11:53
Here's another American design that came out
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Ovdje je još jedan američki dizajn koji dolazi
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of Los Alamos, and is now commercial.
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iz Los Alamosa, i sada je komercijalan.
11:58
Almost all of these are not only small, they are proliferation-proof.
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Gotovo svi oni nisu samo mali, nego su i zaštićeni od širenja.
12:00
They're typically buried in the ground.
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Obično su ukopani u zemlju.
12:03
And the innovation is moving very rapidly.
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A inovacije brzo napreduju.
12:05
So I think microreactors is going to be important for the future.
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Tako ja mislim kako će mikroreaktori biti važni za budućnost.
12:08
In terms of proliferation,
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U smislu širenja,
12:10
nuclear energy has done more
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nuklearna energija je učinila više
12:12
to dismantle nuclear weapons than any other activity.
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na razmontiravanju nuklearnog oružja od bilo koje druge aktivnosti.
12:15
And that's why 10 percent of the electricity in this room,
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I baš zato 10% struje u ovoj prostoriji,
12:19
20 percent of electricity
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20% struje
12:21
in this room is probably nuclear.
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u ovoj prostoriji vjerojatno dolazi od nuklearki.
12:23
Half of that is coming from dismantled warheads from Russia,
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Polovina ovoga dolazi iz razmontiranih bojevih glava iz Rusije.
12:27
soon to be joined by our dismantled warheads.
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Uskoro će biti pridružene našim bojevim glavama.
12:30
And so I would like to see the GNEP program,
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I ja bih volio vidjeti GNEP program,
12:33
that was developed in the Bush administration, go forward aggressively.
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koji je bio razvijen za vrijeme Bushove administracije, kako agresivno napreduje.
12:36
And I was glad to see that president Obama
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I bio sam presretan kad sam vidio kako predsjednik Obama
12:38
supported the nuclear fuel bank strategy
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podržava strategiju banke nuklearnog goriva
12:41
when he spoke in Prague the other week.
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u svom govoru u Pragu prošloga tjedna.
12:43
One more subject. Genetically engineered food crops,
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Još jedna stvar. Genetički modificirane prehrambene biljke,
12:46
in my view, as a biologist,
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s mog gledišta, kao biologa,
12:48
have no reason to be controversial.
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nemaju razloga biti kontroverzne.
12:50
My fellow environmentalists, on this subject,
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Moji kolege ekolozi, po ovom pitanju,
12:52
have been irrational, anti-scientific, and very harmful.
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bili su iracionalni, ne-znanstveni i vrlo štetni.
12:56
Despite their best efforts,
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Uprkos njihovim najboljim naporima,
12:58
genetically engineered crops are the most
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genetički modificirane biljke su najuspješnija
13:00
rapidly successful agricultural innovation in history.
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agrikulturna inovacija u povijesti.
13:04
They're good for the environment because they enable no-till farming,
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One su dobre za okoliš zato što omogućavaju poljodjelstvo bez kopanja,
13:07
which leaves the soil in place,
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koje tlo ostavlja na mjestu,
13:09
getting healthier from year to year --
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što ga čini zdravijim iz godine u godinu.
13:11
slso keeps less carbon dioxide going from the soil
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Osim toga smanjuju količinu ugljičnog dioksida koji iz tla
13:13
into the atmosphere.
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dospijeva u atmosferu.
13:15
They reduce pesticide use.
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Smanjuju korištenje pesticida.
13:17
And they increase yield, which allows you to have your
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I povećavaju urod, što vam omogućuje da smanjite
13:19
agricultural area be smaller,
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poljodjelsku površinu.
13:22
and therefore more wild area is freed up.
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I tako se oslobađa prostor za divljinu.
13:25
By the way, this map from 2006
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Na primjer, ova karta iz 2006. godine
13:27
is out of date because it shows Africa
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je zastarjela jer još uvijek prikazuje Afriku
13:29
still under the thumb of Greenpeace,
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pod palcem Greenpeace-a
13:31
and Friends of the Earth from Europe,
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i Prijatelja prirode iz Europe.
13:34
and they're finally getting out from under that.
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I oni konačno izlaze iz toga.
13:36
And biotech is moving rapidly in Africa, at last.
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A biotehnologija ubrzano ulazi u Afriku, konačno.
13:39
This is a moral issue.
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To je moralno pitanje.
13:41
The Nuffield Council on Bioethics
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Nuffieldski sabor bioetike
13:43
met on this issue twice in great detail
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sastao se zbog tog problema dva puta i detaljno raspravljao
13:45
and said it is a moral imperative
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te zaključio kako je moralni imperativ
13:47
to make genetically engineered crops readily available.
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učiniti genetički modificirane usjeve ubrzano dostupnima.
13:50
Speaking of imperatives, geoengineering is taboo now,
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Govoreći o imperativima, geoinženjering je sada tabu,
13:53
especially in government circles,
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posebno u krugovima vlasti,
13:55
though I think there was a DARPA meeting on it a couple of weeks ago,
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mada ja mislim da je bio DARPA sastanak prije par tjedana na tu temu.
13:57
but it will be on your plate --
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Ali to će vam biti predstavljeno,
13:59
not this year but pretty soon,
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ne ove godine, ali prilično skoro.
14:02
because some harsh realizations are coming along.
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Zato što neke surove realizacije dolaze s tim.
14:05
This is a list of them.
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Ovo je njihov popis.
14:07
Basically the news is going to keep getting more scary.
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U osnovi vijesti nastavljaju biti sve više zastrašujuće.
14:10
There will be events,
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Događat će se stvari,
14:12
like 35,000 people dying of a heat wave,
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poput 35.000 mrtvih u toplotnom udaru,
14:15
which happened a while back.
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kakav se nedavno dogodio.
14:17
Like cyclones coming up toward Bangladesh.
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Kao cikloni koji idu prema Bangladešu.
14:20
Like wars over water,
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Kao ratovi oko vode,
14:22
such as in the Indus.
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kao oni oko rijeke Indus.
14:24
And as those events keep happening
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I kako se te stvari događaju
14:26
we're going to say, "Okay, what can we do about that really?"
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mi ćemo reći: "U redu, što se stvarno može s tim napraviti?"
14:28
But there's this little problem with geoengineering:
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Ali postoji taj mali problem s geoinženjeringom.
14:33
what body is going to decide
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Što će tijelo odlučiti?
14:37
who gets to engineer? How much they do? Where they do it?
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Čiji će biti inženjeri? Koliko će napraviti? Gdje će to napraviti?
14:39
Because everybody is downstream,
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Zato što su svi nizvodno,
14:41
downwind of whatever is done.
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nizvodno od svega što je učinjeno.
14:44
And if we just taboo it completely
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I ako to samo potpuno tabuiziramo
14:46
we could lose civilization.
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mogli bismo izgubiti civilizaciju.
14:48
But if we just say "OK,
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No, ako samo kažemo OK,
14:51
China, you're worried, you go ahead.
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Kina, vi ste zabrinuti, vi vodite.
14:53
You geoengineer your way. We'll geoengineer our way."
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Vi napravite geoinženjering na svoj način. Mi ćemo napraviti svoj geoinženjering.
14:57
That would be considered an act of war by both nations.
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Ovo bi se smatralo objavom rata od strane obje nacije.
15:00
So this is very interesting diplomacy coming along.
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I tako neka vrlo zanimljiva diplomacija dolazi s tim.
15:04
I should say, it is more practical than people think.
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Ja bih rekao, ovo je praktičnije nego što ljudi misle.
15:07
Here is an example that climatologists like a lot,
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Ovo je primjer koji se jako sviđa klimatolozima.
15:10
one of the dozens of geoengineering ideas.
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Jedna od brojnih geoinžinjerskih ideja.
15:12
This one came from the sulfur dioxide
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Ona dolazi od sumpornog dioksida
15:14
from Mount Pinatubo in 1991 --
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iz Mount Pinatubo iz 1991. godine.
15:17
cooled the earth by half a degree.
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Ohladila je Zemlju za pola stupnja.
15:21
There was so much ice in 1992, the following year,
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Ovoliko je bilo leda 1992. godine, naredne godine,
15:23
that there was a bumper crop of polar bear cubs
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došlo je do neočekivanog porasta broja mladunčadi polarnog medvjeda
15:26
who were known as the Pinatubo cubs.
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koja su prozvana Pinatubo mladunčad.
15:28
To put sulfur dioxide in the stratosphere
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Staviti sumporni dioksid u stratosferu
15:30
would cost on the order of a billion dollars a year.
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koštalo bi otprilike milijardu dolara godišnje.
15:33
That's nothing, compared to all of the other
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To je ništa u usporedbi sa svim ostalim stvarima
15:36
things we may be trying to do about energy.
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koje pokušavamo učiniti oko energije.
15:38
Just to run by another one:
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Samo da prođemo kroz drugu ideju,
15:41
this is a plan to brighten the reflectance of ocean clouds,
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ovo je plan kako posvijetliti refleksiju oceanskih oblaka
15:44
by atomizing seawater;
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atomiziranjem morske vode.
15:46
that would brighten the albedo of the whole planet.
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Ovo bi posvijetlilo, povećalo koeficijent refleksije cijeloga planeta.
15:48
A nice one, because it can happen
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Vrlo lijepo, jer bi se to moglo napraviti
15:50
lots of little ways in lots of little places,
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na mnogo različitih načina, na mnogo malih mjesta,
15:52
is by copying the ancient Amazon Indians
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kopiranjem amazonskih indijanaca
15:54
who made good agricultural soil
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koji su proizvodili dobro poljoprivredno tlo
15:56
by pyrolizing, smoldering, plant waste,
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pirolizom, paljenjem biljnog otpada.
16:00
and biochar fixes large quantities of carbon
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I biougljen (ugljen nastao pirolizom biomase) fiksira velike količine ugljika
16:03
while it's improving the soil.
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i pri tome poboljšava kvalitetu tla.
16:05
So here is where we are.
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I evo gdje smo sada.
16:08
Nobel Prize-winning climatologist Paul Crutzen
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Nobelovac, klimatolog Paul Crutzen
16:11
calls our geological era the Anthropocene,
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zove našu geološku eru Antropocen –
16:14
the human-dominated era. We are stuck
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era dominacije ljudi. Mi smo zaglavili
16:17
with its obligations.
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s tom obavezom.
16:20
In the Whole Earth Catalog, my first words were,
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U "Katalogu cijele Zemlje", moj su prve riječi bile:
16:22
"We are as Gods, and might as well get good at it."
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"Mi smo poput bogova, i mogli bismo postati dobri u tome."
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The first words of Whole Earth Discipline
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Prve riječi u "Disciplini cijele Zemlje"
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are, "We are as Gods, and have to get good at it."
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su: "Mi smo poput bogova i moramo postati dobri u tome."
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Thank you.
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Hvala vam.
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(Applause)
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