Yuval Noah Harari: The Actual Cost of Preventing Climate Breakdown | TED

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As the climate crisis worsens,
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too many people are swinging from denial straight to despair.
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But we should not lose hope.
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Humanity has enormous resources under its command,
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and by applying them wisely,
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we can still prevent ecological cataclysm.
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Let's talk numbers.
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What would it cost to prevent catastrophic climate change?
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Would we have to commit 50 percent of our total budget?
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Thirty percent?
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Ten percent?
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Naturally enough, no one knows for sure.
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My team and I have spent weeks poring over various reports
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and academic papers living in a cloud of numbers.
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But while the models behind the numbers are dizzyingly complex,
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the bottom line should cheer us up.
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Most experts converge on the number two percent.
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If humanity increases our annual investment in clean technologies
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and infrastructure by around two percent of global GDP,
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that should be enough to prevent catastrophic climate change.
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If you want to see how experts got to that number,
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you're welcome to visit the Sapienship website.
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We can, of course, argue endlessly about the exact number,
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tweaking the models this way and that way.
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But we should look at the big picture.
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The crucial news is that the price tag of preventing the apocalypse
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is in the low single digits of annual global GDP.
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Even the more pessimistic models
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generally estimate it at below five percent.
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And most models say it requires investing
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only an additional two percent of global GDP in the right places.
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And note the word investing.
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We are not talking about burning piles of banknotes
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in some huge sacrifice to the spirits of the Earth.
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We are talking about making investments
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in new technologies and infrastructure,
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such as advanced batteries or other technologies
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to store solar energy
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and updated power grids to distribute it.
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These investments will create lots of new jobs and economic opportunities
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and are likely to be economically profitable in the long run,
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in part by reducing health care expenditures
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and saving millions of people from sickness caused by air pollution.
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In addition, since oil and gas often prop up autocratic and militaristic regimes,
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reducing our dependence on fossil fuels
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will be a huge boon to democracy and to peace.
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All this can be translated into a concrete political plan of action.
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We have learned in recent years to define our goal in terms of one number:
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1.5 degrees Celsius.
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We can define the means to do this
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with another number: two percent.
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Increased investment in clean technologies and infrastructure
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by two percentage points of global GDP,
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above 2020 levels.
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Of course, unlike the 1.5 Celsius figure,
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which is a scientifically robust threshold,
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the two-percent figure represents only a rough guesstimate.
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It should be understood as a ballpark figure
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that can help to frame
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the kind of political project humanity requires.
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It tells us that preventing catastrophic climate change
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is a totally feasible project,
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even though it would obviously cost a lot of money.
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Since global GDP in 2020 was about 85 trillion US dollars,
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we are talking about a number around 1.7 trillion US dollars.
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But that's still just two percent.
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This means that to save the environment,
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we don't need to completely derail the economy
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or to abandon the achievements of modern civilization.
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We just need to get our priorities right.
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Committing two percent of annual global GDP
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is far from the whole story, of course.
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It won't solve all our ecological problems,
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such as oceans brimming with plastic or the continued loss of biodiversity.
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And even to prevent catastrophic climate change
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we'll need to make sure that the funds are invested in the right places
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and that the new investments don't cause
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their own negative ecological or social fallout.
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We will also need to change some of our behaviors
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and ways of thinking
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from what we eat to how we travel.
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None of that will be easy.
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But that's exactly why we have politicians.
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Their job is to deal with the hard stuff.
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And politicians are actually very skilled at shifting two percent of resources
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from here to there.
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It's what they do all the time.
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The difference between the policies of right wing
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and left wing parties
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often amounts to a few percentage points of GDP.
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When faced by a major crisis,
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politicians swiftly shift far more resources to fight it.
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For example, in 1945,
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the US spent about 36 percent of its GDP
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on winning the Second World War.
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During the 2008-2009 financial crisis,
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the US government spent about 3.5 percent of GDP
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to save financial institutions that were deemed "too big to fail."
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Maybe humankind should also treat the Amazon rainforest
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as too big to fail.
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Let's try a thought experiment.
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Given the current price of cleared rainforest land in South America
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and the size of the Amazon rainforest,
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buying the [whole] of it in order to protect local forests,
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biodiversity and human communities from destructive business interests
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would cost about 800 billion dollars,
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or a one-off payment of less than one percent of global GDP.
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In just the first nine months of 2020,
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governments around the world announced stimulus measures
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worth nearly 14 percent of global GDP
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to deal with the COVID-19 pandemic.
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If citizens pressed them hard enough,
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politicians can do the same to deal with the ecological crisis.
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So can investment banks and pension funds.
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Pension funds hold over 56 trillion US dollars.
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What's the point of having a pension if you don't have a future?
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At present,
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most businesses and governments are unwilling to make
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the additional two-percent investment
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necessary to prevent catastrophic climate change.
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Where does that money go instead?
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Well, every two years,
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approximately 2.4 percent of global GDP
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is spent on food that goes to waste.
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Governments also spend about 500 billion US dollars annually
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on -- wait for it --
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direct subsidies for fossil fuels.
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That means that every 3.5 years governments write a nice fat check
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for an amount equivalent to two percent of annual global GDP
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and gift it to the fossil fuel industry.
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And it gets worse when you factor in the social and environmental costs
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that the fossil fuel industry causes
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but isn't asked to pay for,
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the value of these subsidies
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actually reaches a staggering seven percent of annual global GDP.
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Now consider tax evasion.
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It's estimated that the money hidden by the wealthy in tax havens
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is worth around 10 percent of global GDP.
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Every year,
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another 1.4 trillion dollars in profits
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is stashed offshore by corporations,
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which is equal to 1.6 percent of global GDP.
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To prevent the apocalypse,
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we'll probably need to impose some new taxes.
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But why not start with collecting the old ones?
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Such examples can be multiplied.
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But you get the picture.
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The money is there.
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Of course, collecting taxes,
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stopping food wastage and slashing subsidies
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is easier said than done,
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especially when faced by some of the most powerful lobbies in the world.
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But it doesn't require a miracle.
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It just requires determined organization.
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So we shouldn't succumb to defeatism.
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Whenever someone says,
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"It's too late, the apocalypse is here,"
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reply, "Nah, we can stop it with just two percent."
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And when COP 27 convenes in Egypt in November 2022,
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we should tell the attending leaders
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that it's not enough to make vague future pledges
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about 1.5 degrees Celsius.
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We want them to take out their pens
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and sign a check
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for two percent of annual global GDP.
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Thank you.
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