Daniel Pauly: The ocean's shifting baseline

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I'm going to speak
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about a tiny, little idea.
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And this is about shifting baseline.
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And because the idea can be explained in one minute,
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I will tell you three stories before
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to fill in the time.
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And the first story
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is about Charles Darwin, one of my heroes.
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And he was here, as you well know, in '35.
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And you'd think he was chasing finches,
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but he wasn't.
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He was actually collecting fish.
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And he described one of them
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as very "common."
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This was the sailfin grouper.
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A big fishery was run on it
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until the '80s.
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Now the fish is on the IUCN Red List.
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Now this story,
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we have heard it lots of times
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on Galapagos and other places,
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so there is nothing particular about it.
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But the point is, we still come to Galapagos.
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We still think it is pristine.
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The brochures still say
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it is untouched.
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So what happens here?
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The second story, also to illustrate another concept,
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is called shifting waistline.
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(Laughter)
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Because I was there in '71,
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studying a lagoon in West Africa.
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I was there because I grew up in Europe
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and I wanted later to work in Africa.
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And I thought I could blend in.
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And I got a big sunburn,
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and I was convinced that I was really not from there.
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This was my first sunburn.
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And the lagoon
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was surrounded by palm trees,
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as you can see, and a few mangrove.
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And it had tilapia
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about 20 centimeters,
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a species of tilapia called blackchin tilapia.
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And the fisheries for this tilapia
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sustained lots of fish and they had a good time
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and they earned more than average
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in Ghana.
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When I went there 27 years later,
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the fish had shrunk to half of their size.
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They were maturing at five centimeters.
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They had been pushed genetically.
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There were still fishes.
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They were still kind of happy.
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And the fish also were happy to be there.
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So nothing has changed,
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but everything has changed.
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My third little story
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is that I was an accomplice
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in the introduction of trawling
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in Southeast Asia.
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In the '70s -- well, beginning in the '60s --
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Europe did lots of development projects.
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Fish development
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meant imposing on countries
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that had already 100,000 fishers
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to impose on them industrial fishing.
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And this boat, quite ugly,
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is called the Mutiara 4.
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And I went sailing on it,
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and we did surveys
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throughout the southern South China sea
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and especially the Java Sea.
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And what we caught,
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we didn't have words for it.
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What we caught, I know now,
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is the bottom of the sea.
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And 90 percent of our catch
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were sponges,
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other animals that are fixed on the bottom.
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And actually most of the fish,
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they are a little spot on the debris,
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the piles of debris, were coral reef fish.
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Essentially the bottom of the sea came onto the deck
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and then was thrown down.
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And these pictures are extraordinary
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because this transition is very rapid.
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Within a year, you do a survey
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and then commercial fishing begins.
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The bottom is transformed
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from, in this case, a hard bottom or soft coral
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into a muddy mess.
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This is a dead turtle.
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They were not eaten, they were thrown away because they were dead.
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And one time we caught a live one.
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It was not drowned yet.
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And then they wanted to kill it because it was good to eat.
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This mountain of debris
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is actually collected by fishers
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every time they go
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into an area that's never been fished.
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But it's not documented.
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We transform the world,
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but we don't remember it.
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We adjust our baseline
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to the new level,
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and we don't recall what was there.
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If you generalize this,
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something like this happens.
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You have on the y axis some good thing:
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biodiversity, numbers of orca,
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the greenness of your country, the water supply.
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And over time it changes --
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it changes
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because people do things, or naturally.
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Every generation
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will use the images
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that they got at the beginning of their conscious lives
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as a standard
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and will extrapolate forward.
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And the difference then,
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they perceive as a loss.
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But they don't perceive what happened before as a loss.
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You can have a succession of changes.
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At the end you want to sustain
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miserable leftovers.
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And that, to a large extent, is what we want to do now.
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We want to sustain things that are gone
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or things that are not the way they were.
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Now one should think
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this problem affected people
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certainly when in predatory societies,
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they killed animals
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and they didn't know they had done so
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after a few generations.
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Because, obviously,
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an animal that is very abundant,
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before it gets extinct,
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it becomes rare.
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So you don't lose abundant animals.
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You always lose rare animals.
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And therefore they're not perceived
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as a big loss.
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Over time,
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we concentrate on large animals,
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and in a sea that means the big fish.
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They become rarer because we fish them.
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Over time we have a few fish left
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and we think this is the baseline.
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And the question is,
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why do people accept this?
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Well because they don't know that it was different.
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And in fact, lots of people, scientists,
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will contest that it was really different.
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And they will contest this
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because the evidence
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presented in an earlier mode
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is not in the way
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they would like the evidence presented.
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For example,
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the anecdote that some present,
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as Captain so-and-so
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observed lots of fish in this area
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cannot be used
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or is usually not utilized by fishery scientists,
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because it's not "scientific."
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So you have a situation
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where people don't know the past,
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even though we live in literate societies,
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because they don't trust
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the sources of the past.
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And hence, the enormous role
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that a marine protected area can play.
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Because with marine protected areas,
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we actually recreate the past.
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We recreate the past that people cannot conceive
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because the baseline has shifted
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and is extremely low.
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That is for people
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who can see a marine protected area
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and who can benefit
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from the insight that it provides,
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which enables them to reset their baseline.
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How about the people who can't do that
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because they have no access --
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the people in the Midwest for example?
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There I think
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that the arts and film
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can perhaps fill the gap,
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and simulation.
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This is a simulation of Chesapeake Bay.
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There were gray whales in Chesapeake Bay a long time ago --
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500 years ago.
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And you will have noticed that the hues and tones
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are like "Avatar."
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(Laughter)
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And if you think about "Avatar,"
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if you think of why people were so touched by it --
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never mind the Pocahontas story --
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why so touched by the imagery?
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Because it evokes something
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that in a sense has been lost.
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And so my recommendation,
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it's the only one I will provide,
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is for Cameron to do "Avatar II" underwater.
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Thank you very much.
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(Applause)
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