The economic injustice of plastic | Van Jones

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I am honored to be here,
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and I'm honored to talk about this topic,
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which I think is of grave importance.
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We've been talking a lot
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about the horrific impacts of plastic on the planet and on other species,
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but plastic hurts people, too --
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especially poor people.
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And both in the production of plastic,
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the use of plastic and the disposal of plastic,
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the people who have the bull's-eye on their foreheads
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are poor people.
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People got very upset
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when the BP oil spill happened,
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for very good reason.
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People thought, "Oh, my God.
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This is terrible, this oil -- it's in the water.
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It's going to destroy the living systems there.
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People are going to be hurt.
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This is a terrible thing,
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this oil is going to hurt the people in the Gulf."
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What people don't think about is:
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What if the oil had made it safely to shore?
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What if the oil actually got where it was trying to go?
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Not only would it have been burned in engines and added to global warming,
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but there's a place called "Cancer Alley,"
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and the reason it's called "Cancer Alley"
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is because the petrochemical industry
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takes that oil and turns it into plastic
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and in the process, kills people.
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It shortens the lives of the people who live there in the Gulf.
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So oil and petrochemicals are not just a problem when there's a spill;
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they're a problem when there's not.
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And what we don't often appreciate
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is the price that poor people pay
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for us to have these disposable products.
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The other thing we often don't appreciate is,
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it's not just at the point of production that poor people suffer.
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Poor people also suffer at the point of use.
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Those of us who earn a certain income level,
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we have something called choice.
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The reason why you want to work hard and have a job
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and not be poor and broke
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is so you can have choices, economic choices.
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We actually get a chance to choose not to use products
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that have dangerous, poisonous plastic in them.
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Other people who are poor don't have those choices.
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So low-income people often are the ones
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who are buying the products that have those dangerous chemicals in them
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that their children are using.
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Those are the people who wind up ingesting a disproportionate amount
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of this poisonous plastic in using it.
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And people say, "Well, they should just buy a different product."
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Well, the problem with being poor is you don't have those choices.
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You often have to buy the cheapest products.
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The cheapest products are often the most dangerous.
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And if that weren't bad enough --
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if it wasn't just the production of plastic that's giving people cancer
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in places like Cancer Alley,
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and shortening lives and hurting poor kids at the point of use --
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at the point of disposal,
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once again, it's poor people who bear the burden.
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Often, we think we're doing a good thing:
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You're in your office, drinking your bottled water or whatever it is,
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and you think to yourself, "I'm going to throw this away.
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No -- I'm going to be virtuous. I'm going to put it in the blue bin."
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You think, "I put mine in the blue bin."
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And then you look at your colleague and say,
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"Why, you cretin! You put yours in the white bin."
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And we use that as a moral tickle.
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We feel so good about ourselves.
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If we -- well, OK, I'm just ... me.
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Not you, but I feel this way often.
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(Laughter)
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And so we kind of have this moral feel-good moment.
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But if we were to be able to follow that little bottle
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on its journey,
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we would be shocked to discover that, all too often,
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that bottle is going to be put on a boat,
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it's going to go all the way across the ocean
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at some expense,
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and it's going to wind up in a developing country, often China.
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I think in our minds, we imagine
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somebody's going to take the little bottle and say,
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"Oh, little bottle! We're so happy to see you, little bottle."
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(Laughter)
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"You've served so well."
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(Laughter)
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He's given a little bottle massage,
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a little bottle medal.
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And they say, "What would you like to do next?"
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The little bottle says, "I just don't know ..."
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(Laughter)
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But that's not actually what happens.
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You know?
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That bottle winds up getting burned.
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The recycling of plastic in many developing countries
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means the incineration of the plastic, the burning of the plastic,
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which releases incredible toxic chemicals
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and, once again, kills people.
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And so, poor people who are making these products
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in petrochemical centers like Cancer Alley,
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poor people who are consuming these products disproportionately,
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and then poor people who, even at the tail end of the recycling,
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are having their lives shortened.
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They're all being harmed -- greatly --
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by this addiction that we have to disposability.
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Now, you think to yourself -- I know how you are --
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you say, "That sure is terrible for those poor people.
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It's just awful. Those poor people.
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I hope someone does something to help them."
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But what we don't understand is --
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here we are in Los Angeles.
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We worked very hard to get the smog reduction
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happening here in Los Angeles.
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But guess what?
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Because they're doing so much dirty production in Asia now,
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because the environmental laws don't protect the people in Asia now,
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almost all of the clean air gains and the toxic air gains
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that we've achieved here in California
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have been wiped out by dirty air coming over from Asia.
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So we all are being hit. We all are being impacted.
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It's just that the poor people get it first and worst.
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But the dirty production, the burning of toxins,
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the lack of environmental standards in Asia,
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is actually creating so much dirty air pollution,
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it's coming across the ocean,
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and has erased our gains here in California.
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We're back where we were in the 1970s.
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And so we're on one planet,
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and we have to be able to get to the root of these problems.
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The root of this problem, in my view,
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is the idea of disposability itself.
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You see, if you understand the link
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between what we're doing to poison and pollute the planet
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and what we're doing to poor people,
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you arrive at a very troubling but also very helpful insight:
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In order to trash the planet,
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you have to trash people.
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But if you create a world where you don't trash people,
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you can't trash the planet.
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So now we are at a moment
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where the coming together of social justice as an idea
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and ecology as an idea,
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we finally can now see
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that they are really, at the end of the day, one idea.
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And it's the idea that we don't have disposable anything.
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We don't have disposable resources.
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We don't have disposable species.
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And we don't have disposable people, either.
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We don't have a throwaway planet,
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and we don't have throwaway children -- it's all precious.
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And as we all begin to come back to that basic understanding,
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new opportunities for action begin to emerge.
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Biomimicry,
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which is an emerging science,
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winds up being a very important social justice idea.
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People who are just learning about this stuff:
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biomimicry means respecting the wisdom of all species.
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Democracy, by the way,
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means respecting the wisdom of all people -- we'll get to that.
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But biomimicry means respecting the wisdom of all species.
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It turns out we're a pretty clever species.
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We have this big cortex, we're pretty proud of ourselves.
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But if we want to make something hard,
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we say, "I know! I'm going to make a hard substance.
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I know! I'm going to get vacuums and furnaces
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and drag stuff out of the ground
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and get things hot and poison and pollute ...
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But I got this hard thing!"
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(Laughter)
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"I'm so clever!"
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And you look behind you, and there's destruction all around you.
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But guess what?
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You're so clever, but you're not as clever as a clam.
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A clamshell is hard.
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There's no vacuums. There's no big furnaces.
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There's no poison. There's no pollution.
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It turns out that other species figured out a long time ago
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how to create many of the things we need
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using biological processes that nature knows how to use well.
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That insight of biomimicry, of our scientists finally realizing
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that we have as much to learn from other species --
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I don't mean taking a mouse and sticking it with stuff.
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I don't mean looking at it from that way, abusing the little species.
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I mean actually respecting them, respecting what they've achieved.
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That's called biomimicry,
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and that opens the door to zero waste production;
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zero pollution production;
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that we could actually enjoy
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a high quality of life, a high standard of living,
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without trashing the planet.
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Well, that idea of biomimicry,
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respecting the wisdom of all species,
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combined with the idea of democracy and social justice,
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respecting the wisdom and the worth of all people,
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would give us a different society.
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We would have a different economy.
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We would have a green society
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that Dr. King would be proud of.
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That should be the goal.
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And the way that we get there is to first of all recognize
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that the idea of disposability
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not only hurts the species we've talked about,
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but it even corrupts our own society.
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We're so proud to live here in California.
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We just had this vote, and everybody's like,
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"Well -- not in our state!"
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(Laughter)
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I don't know what those other states were doing, but ..."
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(Laughter)
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Just so proud.
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And, yeah, I'm proud, too.
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But ...
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California, though we lead the world in some of the green stuff,
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we also, unfortunately, lead the world
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in some of the gulag stuff.
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California has one of the highest incarceration rates
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of all the 50 states.
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We have a moral challenge in this movement.
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We are passionate about rescuing some dead materials from the landfill,
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but sometimes not as passionate
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about rescuing living beings, living people.
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And I would say that we live in a country --
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five percent of the world's population,
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25 percent of the greenhouse gases,
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but also 25 percent of the world's prisoners.
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One of every four people locked up anywhere in the world
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is locked up right here in the United States.
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So that is consistent with this idea
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that disposability is something we believe in.
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And yet,
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as a movement that has to broaden its constituency,
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that has to grow,
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that has to reach out beyond our natural comfort zone,
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one of the challenges to the success of this movement,
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of getting rid of things like plastic and helping the economy shift,
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is people look at our movement with some suspicion.
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And they ask a question, and the question is:
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How can these people be so passionate?
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A poor person, a low-income person, somebody in Cancer Alley,
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somebody in Watts,
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somebody in Harlem, somebody on an Indian reservation,
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might say to themselves -- and rightfully so --
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"How can these people be so passionate
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about making sure
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that a plastic bottle has a second chance in life,
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or an aluminum can has a second chance,
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and yet, when my child gets in trouble and goes to prison,
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he doesn't get a second chance?"
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"How can this movement be so passionate about saying
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we don't have throwaway stuff, no throwaway dead materials,
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and yet accept throwaway lives
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and throwaway communities like Cancer Alley?"
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And so, we now get a chance to be truly proud of this movement.
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When we take on topics like this,
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it gives us that extra call to reach out to other movements
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and to become more inclusive and to grow,
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and we can finally get out of this crazy dilemma that we've been in.
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Most of you are good, softhearted people.
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When you were younger, you cared about the whole world,
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and at some point, somebody said you had to pick an issue,
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you had to boil your love down to an issue.
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"Can't love the whole world --
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you've got to work on trees or you've got to work on immigration.
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You've got to shrink it down and be about one issue."
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And really, they fundamentally told you,
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"Are you going to hug a tree?
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Or are you going to hug a child? Pick.
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Are you going to hug a tree?
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Or are you going to hug a child? Pick."
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Well, when you start working on issues like plastic,
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you realize the whole thing is connected.
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And luckily, most of us are blessed to have two arms --
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we can hug both.
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Thank you very much.
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(Applause)
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