Jonathan Drori: Why we don't understand as much as we think

71,598 views ・ 2008-09-05

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I'm going to try and explain why it is that perhaps
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we don't understand as much as we think we do.
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I'd like to begin with four questions.
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This is not some sort of cultural thing for the time of year.
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That's an in-joke, by the way.
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But these four questions, actually,
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are ones that people who even know quite a lot about science find quite hard.
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And they're questions that I've asked of science television producers,
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of audiences of science educators --
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so that's science teachers -- and also of seven-year-olds,
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and I find that the seven-year-olds do marginally better
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than the other audiences, which is somewhat surprising.
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So the first question, and you might want to write this down,
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either on a bit of paper, physically, or a virtual piece of paper
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in your head. And, for viewers at home, you can try this as well.
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A little seed weighs next to nothing and a tree weighs a lot, right?
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I think we agree on that. Where does the tree get the stuff that makes up this chair,
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right? Where does all this stuff come from?
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(Knocks)
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And your next question is, can you light a little torch-bulb
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with a battery, a bulb and one piece of wire?
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And would you be able to, kind of, draw a -- you don't have to draw
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the diagram, but would you be able to draw the diagram,
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if you had to do it? Or would you just say,
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that's actually not possible?
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The third question is, why is it hotter in summer than in winter?
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I think we can probably agree that it is hotter in summer than in winter,
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but why? And finally, would you be able to --
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and you can sort of scribble it, if you like --
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scribble a plan diagram of the solar system,
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showing the shape of the planets' orbits?
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Would you be able to do that?
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And if you can, just scribble a pattern.
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OK. Now, children get their ideas not from teachers,
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as teachers often think, but actually from common sense,
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from experience of the world around them,
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from all the things that go on between them and their peers,
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and their carers, and their parents, and all of that. Experience.
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And one of the great experts in this field, of course, was, bless him,
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Cardinal Wolsey. Be very careful what you get into people's heads
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because it's virtually impossible to shift it afterwards, right?
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(Laughter)
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I'm not quite sure how he died, actually.
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Was he beheaded in the end, or hung?
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(Laughter)
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Now, those questions, which, of course, you've got right,
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and you haven't been conferring, and so on.
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And I -- you know, normally, I would pick people out and humiliate,
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but maybe not in this instance.
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A little seed weighs a lot and, basically, all this stuff,
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99 percent of this stuff, came out of the air.
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Now, I guarantee that about 85 percent of you, or maybe it's fewer at TED,
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will have said it comes out of the ground. And some people,
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probably two of you, will come up and argue with me afterwards,
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and say that actually, it comes out of the ground.
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Now, if that was true, we'd have trucks going round the country,
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filling people's gardens in with soil, it'd be a fantastic business.
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But, actually, we don't do that.
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The mass of this comes out of the air.
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Now, I passed all my biology exams in Britain.
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I passed them really well, but I still came out of school
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thinking that that stuff came out of the ground.
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Second one: can you light a little torch-bulb with a battery bulb and one piece of wire?
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Yes, you can, and I'll show you in a second how to do that.
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Now, I have some rather bad news,
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which is that I had a piece of video that I was about to show you,
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which unfortunately -- the sound doesn't work in this room,
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so I'm going to describe to you, in true "Monty Python" fashion,
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what happens in the video. And in the video, a group of researchers
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go to MIT on graduation day.
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We chose MIT because, obviously, that's a very long way away
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from here, and you wouldn't mind too much,
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but it sort of works the same way in Britain
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and in the West Coast of the USA.
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And we asked them these questions, and we asked those questions
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of science graduates, and they couldn't answer them.
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And so, there's a whole lot of people saying,
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"I'd be very surprised if you told me that this came out of the air.
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That's very surprising to me." And those are science graduates.
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And we intercut it with, "We are the premier science university in the world,"
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because of British-like hubris.
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(Laughter)
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And when we gave graduate engineers that question,
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they said it couldn't be done.
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And when we gave them a battery, and a piece of wire, and a bulb,
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and said, "Can you do it?" They couldn't do it. Right?
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And that's no different from Imperial College in London, by the way,
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it's not some sort of anti-American thing going on.
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As if. Now, the reason this matters is we pay lots and lots of money
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for teaching people -- we might as well get it right.
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And there are also some societal reasons
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why we might want people to understand what it is that's happening
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in photosynthesis. For example, one half of the carbon equation
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is how much we emit, and the other half of the carbon equation,
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as I'm very conscious as a trustee of Kew,
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is how much things soak up, and they soak up carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere.
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That's what plants actually do for a living.
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And, for any Finnish people in the audience, this is a Finnish pun:
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we are, both literally and metaphorically, skating on thin ice
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if we don't understand that kind of thing.
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Now, here's how you do the battery and the bulb.
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It's so easy, isn't it? Of course, you all knew that.
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But if you haven't played with a battery and a bulb,
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if you've only seen a circuit diagram,
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you might not be able to do that, and that's one of the problems.
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So, why is it hotter in summer than in winter?
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We learn, as children, that you get closer to something that's hot,
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and it burns you. It's a very powerful bit of learning,
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and it happens pretty early on.
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By extension, we think to ourselves, "Why it's hotter in summer than in winter
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must be because we're closer to the Sun."
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I promise you that most of you will have got that.
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Oh, you're all shaking your heads,
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but only a few of you are shaking your heads very firmly.
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Other ones are kind of going like this. All right.
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It's hotter in summer than in winter because the rays from the Sun
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are spread out more, right, because of the tilt of the Earth.
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And if you think the tilt is tilting us closer, no, it isn't.
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The Sun is 93 million miles away, and we're tilting like this, right?
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It makes no odds. In fact, in the Northern Hemisphere,
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we're further from the Sun in summer,
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as it happens, but it makes no odds, the difference.
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OK, now, the scribble of the diagram of the solar system.
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If you believe, as most of you probably do,
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that it's hotter in summer than in winter because we're closer to the Sun,
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you must have drawn an ellipse.
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Right? That would explain it, right?
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Except, in your -- you're nodding -- now, in your ellipse,
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have you thought, "Well, what happens during the night?"
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Between Australia and here, right, they've got summer
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and we've got winter, and what --
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does the Earth kind of rush towards the Sun at night,
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and then rush back again? I mean, it's a very strange thing going on,
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and we hold these two models in our head, of what's right and what isn't right,
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and we do that, as human beings, in all sorts of fields.
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So, here's Copernicus' view of what the solar system looked like as a plan.
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That's pretty much what you should have on your piece of paper. Right?
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And this is NASA's view. They're stunningly similar.
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I hope you notice the coincidence here.
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What would you do if you knew that people had this misconception,
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right, in their heads, of elliptical orbits
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caused by our experiences as children?
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What sort of diagram would you show them of the solar system,
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to show that it's not really like that?
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You'd show them something like this, wouldn't you?
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It's a plan, looking down from above.
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But, no, look what I found in the textbooks.
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That's what you show people, right? These are from textbooks,
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from websites, educational websites --
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and almost anything you pick up is like that.
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And the reason it's like that is because it's dead boring
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to have a load of concentric circles,
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whereas that's much more exciting, to look at something at that angle,
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isn't it? Right? And by doing it at that angle,
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if you've got that misconception in your head, then that
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two-dimensional representation of a three-dimensional thing will be ellipses.
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So you've -- it's crap, isn't it really? As we say.
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So, these mental models -- we look for evidence that reinforces our models.
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We do this, of course, with matters of race, and politics, and everything else,
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and we do it in science as well. So we look, just look --
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and scientists do it, constantly -- we look for evidence
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that reinforces our models, and some folks are just all too able
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and willing to provide the evidence that reinforces the models.
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So, being I'm in the United States, I'll have a dig at the Europeans.
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These are examples of what I would say is bad practice in science
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teaching centers. These pictures are from La Villette in France
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and the welcome wing of the Science Museum in London.
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And, if you look at the, kind of the way these things are constructed,
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there's a lot of mediation by glass, and it's very blue, and kind of professional --
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in that way that, you know, Woody Allen comes up
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from under the sheets in that scene in "Annie Hall,"
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and said, "God, that's so professional." And that you don't --
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there's no passion in it, and it's not hands on, right,
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and, you know, pun intended. Whereas good interpretation --
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I'll use an example from nearby -- is San Francisco Exploratorium,
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where all the things that -- the demonstrations, and so on,
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are made out of everyday objects that children can understand,
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it's very hands-on, and they can engage with, and experiment with.
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And I know that if the graduates at MIT
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and in the Imperial College in London had had the battery and the wire
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and the bit of stuff, and you know, been able to do it,
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they would have learned how it actually works,
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rather than thinking that they follow circuit diagrams and can't do it.
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So good interpretation is more about
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things that are bodged and stuffed and of my world, right?
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And things that -- where there isn't an extra barrier
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of a piece of glass or machined titanium,
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and it all looks fantastic, OK?
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And the Exploratorium does that really, really well.
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And it's amateur, but amateur in the best sense,
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in other words, the root of the word being of love and passion.
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So, children are not empty vessels, OK?
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So, as "Monty Python" would have it,
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this is a bit Lord Privy Seal to say so,
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but this is -- children are not empty vessels.
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They come with their own ideas and their own theories,
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and unless you work with those, then you won't be able to shift them,
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right? And I probably haven't shifted your ideas
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of how the world and universe operates, either.
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But this applies, equally, to matters of trying to sell new technology.
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For example, we are, in Britain, we're trying to do a digital switchover
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of the whole population into digital technology [for television].
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And it's one of the difficult things
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is that when people have preconceptions of how it all works,
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it's quite difficult to shift those.
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So we're not empty vessels; the mental models that we have
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as children persist into adulthood.
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Poor teaching actually does more harm than good.
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In this country and in Britain, magnetism is understood better
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by children before they've been to school than afterwards, OK?
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Same for gravity, two concepts, so it's -- which is quite humbling,
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as a, you know, if you're a teacher, and you look before and after,
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that's quite worrying. They do worse in tests afterwards, after the teaching.
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And we collude. We design tests,
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or at least in Britain, so that people pass them. Right?
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And governments do very well. They pat themselves on the back.
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OK? We collude, and actually if you --
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if someone had designed a test for me
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when I was doing my biology exams,
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to really understand, to see whether I'd understood
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more than just kind of putting starch and iodine together
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and seeing it go blue,
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and really understood that plants took their mass out of the air,
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then I might have done better at science.
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So the most important thing is to get people to articulate their models.
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Your homework is -- you know, how does an aircraft's wing create lift?
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An obvious question, and you'll have an answer now in your heads.
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And the second question to that then is,
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ensure you've explained how it is that planes can fly upside down.
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Ah ha, right. Second question is, why is the sea blue? All right?
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And you've all got an idea in your head of the answer.
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So, why is it blue on cloudy days? Ah, see.
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(Laughter)
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I've always wanted to say that in this country.
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(Laughter)
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Finally, my plea to you is to allow yourselves, and your children,
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and anyone you know, to kind of fiddle with stuff,
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because it's by fiddling with things that you, you know,
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you complement your other learning. It's not a replacement,
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it's just part of learning that's important.
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Thank you very much.
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Now -- oh, oh yeah, go on then, go on.
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(Applause)
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