What we're missing in the debate about immigration | Duarte Geraldino

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So, Ma was trying to explain something to me
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about Grandma and when they grew up,
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but I couldn't pay attention to her
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because I was five years old, and I was petrified.
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I had just seen The Green Lady.
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Now, about a week earlier, I'd watched that movie "Godzilla,"
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the one about that huge lizard-like beast storming a major city,
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and the thought of a green monster coming for me was stuck in my mind.
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And yet there I was, at the tip of Lower Manhattan with my mom,
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just staring at her:
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her horns,
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her muscles --
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all of it just frightened me.
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And I didn't know whether she was a monster or a hero.
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So I decided to consult the Google of the day --
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"Ma! Ma!"
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(Laughter)
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My mother explained that The Green Lady is actually the Statue of Liberty
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and that she was waving immigrants in.
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Now, the part of her explanation that really messed with my young head
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was the fact that, according to Ma,
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long before us,
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The Green Lady was actually brown,
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brown like me,
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and that she changed colors over the years,
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much like America.
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Now, the part that really is intriguing about this
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is that when she changed colors,
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she made me think about myself.
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It all made sense to me,
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because as a first-generation American,
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I was surrounded by immigrants.
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In fact, within my immediate social circle of the people who support me,
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who enrich my life,
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at least two are foreign-born.
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My life as a US citizen is in many ways shaped by newcomers,
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and chances are,
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so is yours.
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There are more than 40 million immigrants in the USA.
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According to census data,
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a quarter of the nation's children have at least one foreign-born parent.
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I know all these statistics because I study global migration patterns.
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I'm a journalist, and for the last few years,
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I've been documenting the lives of US citizens
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who've lost people to deportation.
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And the numbers are enormous.
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From 2008 to 2016,
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more than three million people were "ordered removed" --
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that's the technical term for being deported.
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There is an economic, a political, a psychological and an emotional cost
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to those deportations --
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the moments when these circles are broken.
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I once asked a US soldier,
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"Why did you volunteer to fight this war?"
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And she told me,
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"Because I'm proud to defend my country."
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But I pressed to know --
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"Really, when you're on base,
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and you hear bombs exploding in the distance,
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and you see soldiers coming back who are gravely injured,
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in that moment, when you know you could be next,
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what does 'my country' mean?"
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She looked at me.
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"My country is my wife,
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my family,
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my friends, my soldiers."
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What she was telling me
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is that "my country" is a collection of these strong relationships;
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these social circles.
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When the social circles are weakened,
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a country itself is weaker.
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We're missing a crucial aspect in the debate about immigration policy.
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Rather than focusing on individuals,
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we should focus on the circles around them,
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because these are the people who are left behind:
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the voters, the taxpayers,
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the ones who are suffering that loss.
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And it's not just the children of the deported
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who are impacted.
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You have brothers and sisters who are separated by borders.
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You have classmates, teachers, law enforcement officers,
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technologists, scientists, doctors,
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who are all scrambling to make sense of new realities
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when their social circles are broken.
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These are the real lives behind all these statistics
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that dominate discussions about immigration policy.
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But we don't often think about them.
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And I'm trying to change that.
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Here's just one of the real-life stories that I've collected.
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And it still haunts me.
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I met Ramon and his son in 2016,
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the same year both of them were being ordered out of the country.
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Ramon was being deported to Latin America,
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while his son, who was a sergeant in the US military,
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was being deployed.
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Deported ...
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deployed.
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If you just look at Ramon's case,
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it wouldn't be clear how deeply connected to the country he is.
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But consider his son:
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a US citizen defending a country that's banished his father.
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The social circle is what's key here.
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Here's another example that illustrates those critical bonds.
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A group of citizens in Philadelphia were concerned about their jobs,
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because the legal owner of the restaurant where they worked
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was an undocumented immigrant,
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and immigration officials had picked him up.
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They rallied behind him.
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An immigration lawyer argued
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he was too important to the local community
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to be deported.
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At the hearing, they even submitted restaurant reviews --
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restaurant reviews!
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In the end, a judge exercised what's called "judicial discretion"
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and allowed him to stay in the country,
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but only because they considered the social circle.
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There are 23 million noncitizens in the USA,
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according to verifiable federal data.
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And that doesn't include the undocumented,
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because numbers for that population are at best complex estimates.
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Let's just work with what we have.
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That's 23 million social circles --
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about 100 million individuals
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whose lives could be impacted by deportation.
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And the stress of it all is trickling down through the population.
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A 2017 poll by UCLA of LA County residents
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found that 30 percent of citizens in LA County
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are stressed about deportation,
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not because they themselves could be removed,
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but rather, because members of their social circle were at risk.
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I am not suggesting that no one should ever be deported;
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don't confuse me with that.
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But what I am saying is that we need to look at the bigger picture.
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If you are within the sound of my voice,
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I want you to close your eyes for a moment
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and examine your own social circle.
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Who are your foreign-born?
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What would it feel like if the circle were broken?
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Share your story.
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I'm building a global archive of first-person accounts
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and linking them with mapping technology,
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so that we can see exactly where these circles break,
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because this is not just an American issue.
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There are a quarter-billion migrants around the world;
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people living, loving and learning in countries where they were not born.
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And in my career, in my life, I've been one of them:
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in China, in Africa, in Europe.
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And each time I become one of these foreigners --
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one of these strange-looking guys in a new land --
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I can't help but think back to that day
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when I was in Lower Manhattan with my mom
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all those decades ago,
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when I was scared,
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and I had just spotted that green lady.
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And I guess the question that I keep on thinking about
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when I see her
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and all the younger replicas of her that are so obviously brown,
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and even the paintings that showcase her in the beginning
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as not quite green --
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when I look at all of that,
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the question that my research seeks to answer
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becomes, to me, the same one that confounded me all those years ago:
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Is she a monster
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or a hero?
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Thank you.
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(Applause)
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