Milton Glaser: How great design makes ideas new

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ูŠุฑุฌู‰ ุงู„ู†ู‚ุฑ ู†ู‚ุฑู‹ุง ู…ุฒุฏูˆุฌู‹ุง ููˆู‚ ุงู„ุชุฑุฌู…ุฉ ุงู„ุฅู†ุฌู„ูŠุฒูŠุฉ ุฃุฏู†ุงู‡ ู„ุชุดุบูŠู„ ุงู„ููŠุฏูŠูˆ.

ุงู„ู…ุชุฑุฌู…: Mahmoud Aghiorly ุงู„ู…ุฏู‚ู‘ู‚: Anwar Dafa-Alla
00:18
'Theme and variations' is one of those forms that
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ุงู„ููƒุฑุฉ ูˆุงู„ุชุบูŠูŠุฑ ู‡ูŠ ุงุญุฏ ุชู„ูƒ ุงู„ุงุดูƒุงู„ ุงู„ุชูŠ
00:21
require a certain kind of intellectual activity,
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ุชุชุทู„ุจ ู†ูˆุน ู…ุนูŠู† ู…ู† ุงู„ู†ุดุงุท ุงู„ุฐู‡ู†ูŠ
00:26
because you are always comparing the variation
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ูˆุฐู„ูƒ ู„ุฃู†ูƒ ุฏุงุฆู…ุง ู…ุง ุชู‚ุงุฑู† ุงู„ุชุบูŠูŠุฑ
00:29
with the theme that you hold in your mind.
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ู…ุน ุงู„ู…ูˆุงุถูŠุน ุงู„ุชูŠ ููŠ ุฐุงูƒุฑุชูƒ
00:32
You might say that the theme is nature
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ุฑุจู…ุง ุชู‚ูˆู„ ููŠ ุฏุงุฎู„ูƒ ุชู„ูƒ ุงู„ู…ูˆุงุถูŠุน ุทุจูŠุนูŠุฉ
00:36
and everything that follows is a variation on the subject.
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ูˆูƒู„ ุดูŠุก ูŠุชุจุนู‡ ู…ุงู‡ูˆ ุงู„ุง ุชุบูŠูŠุฑ ููŠ ุงู„ู…ูˆุถูˆุน
00:46
I was asked, I guess about six years ago,
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ูˆู„ู‚ุฏ ุทู„ุจ ู…ู†ูŠ , ุงุนุชู‚ุฏ ู‚ุจู„ ุณุช ุณู†ูˆุงุช
00:54
to do a series of paintings
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ุฃู† ุงุนู…ู„ ู…ุฌู…ูˆุนุฉ ู…ู† ุงู„ู„ูˆุญุงุช ุงู„ูู†ูŠุฉ
00:59
that in some way would celebrate the birth of Piero della Francesca.
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ูˆุฐู„ูƒ ุจุทุฑูŠู‚ุฉ ู…ุง ู†ุญุชูู„ ุจู…ูˆู„ุฏ ุจูŠุฑูˆ ุฏูŠู„ุง ูุฑุงู†ุดูŠุณูƒุง
01:06
And it was very difficult for me to imagine
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ูˆูƒุงู† ู…ู† ุงู„ุตุนุจ ุฌุฏุง ุฃู† ุฃุชุฎูŠู„
01:10
how to paint pictures that were based on Piero
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ูƒูŠู ู„ูŠ ุฃู† ุฃุฑุณู… ุตูˆุฑุฉ ุชูƒูˆู† ู…ุฑุชูƒุฒุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ุฑุณูˆู…ุงุช ุจูŠุฑูˆ
01:19
until I realized that I could look at Piero as nature --
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ูˆุงู„ู‰ ุฃู† ุงุฏุฑูƒุช , ุงู†ู†ูŠ ุฃุณุชุทูŠุน ุฃู† ุงู†ุธุฑ ุงู„ู‰ ุจูŠุฑูˆ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู†ู‡ ู…ุดู‡ุฏ ุทุจูŠุนูŠ
01:26
that I would have the same attitude towards looking at Piero della Francesca
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ุญุงูˆุช ุงู† ุงุญุตู„ ุนู„ู‰ ู†ูุณ ุงู„ุงุญุณุงุณ ุญูŠู† ุงู„ู†ุธุฑ ุงู„ู‰ ุจูŠุฑูˆ ุฏูŠู„ุง ูุฑุงู†ุดูŠุณูƒุง
01:33
as I would if I were looking out a window at a tree.
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ูƒู…ุง ู„ูˆ ุงู†ู†ูŠ ุงู†ุธุฑ ุงู„ู‰ ุดุฌุฑุฉ ู…ู† ุงู„ู†ุงูุฐุฉ
01:36
And that was enormously liberating to me.
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ูˆูƒุงู† ุฐู„ูƒ ุชุตุฑูุงู‹ ู…ุญุฑุฑุง ู„ูŠ ..
01:39
Perhaps it's not a very insightful observation,
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ูˆุฑุจู…ุง ู„ู… ูŠูƒู† ุชุตุฑูุงู‹ ูŠูู„ุญุธ ุจุณู‡ูˆู„ุฉ
01:43
but that really started me on a path to be able to do a kind of theme and variations
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ูˆู„ูƒู†ู‡ ููŠ ุงู„ุญู‚ูŠู‚ุฉ ู…ูƒู†ู†ูŠ ู…ู† ุงู† ุงุจุฏุฃ ุงู„ุทุฑูŠู‚ ููŠ ุงู„ุฑุณู… .. ุจุนุฏุฉ ุฃูˆุฌู‡
01:49
based on a work by Piero,
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ูˆุชุจุนุงู‹ ู„ุนู…ู„ ุจุฏุฃู‡ ุจูŠุฑูˆ
01:53
in this case that remarkable painting that's in the Uffizi, "The Duke of Montefeltro,"
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ููŠ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุญุงู„ุฉ ุฑุณู…ุช " ุฏูˆู‚ ู…ูˆู†ุชูŠููŠู„ุชูˆ "
02:00
who faces his consort, Battista.
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ุงู„ุฐูŠ ู‡ูˆ ูˆุฌู‡ู‡ ุฃู…ุงู… ูˆุฌู‡ ุจุงุชูŠุณุชุง
02:05
Once I realized that I could take some liberties with the subject,
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ูˆู…ู† ุซู… ุงุฏุฑูƒุช ุงู†ู†ูŠ ูŠู…ูƒู†ู†ูŠ ุงู† ุงู‚ูˆู… ุจุนุฏุฉ ุงูˆุฌู‡ ู„ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุนู…ู„
02:09
I did the following series of drawings.
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ูˆู‚ู…ุช ุจุนู…ู„ ุนุฏุฉ ุฑุณูˆู…ุงุช
02:13
That's the real Piero della Francesca --
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ู‡ุฐุง ู‡ูˆ ุจูŠุฑูˆ ุฏูŠู„ุง ูุฑุงู†ุดูŠุณูƒุง
02:18
one of the greatest portraits in human history.
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ู‡ุฐู‡ ูˆุงุญุฏุฉ ู…ู† ุงูุถู„ ุงู„ุฑุณูˆู…ุงุช ููŠ ุงู„ุชุงุฑูŠุฎ ุงู„ุจุดุฑูŠ
02:23
And these, I'll just show these without comment.
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ูˆู‡ุฐู‡ .. ุณูˆู ุงุนุฑุถ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุจุฏูˆู† ุชุนู„ูŠู‚ุงุช
02:27
It's just a series of variations on the head of the Duke of Montefeltro,
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ุงู†ู‡ุง ุตูˆุฑ ุนุฏุฉ ู„ูˆุฌู‡ ุฏูˆู‚ ู…ูˆู†ุชูŠููŠู„ุชุฑูˆ
02:33
who's a great, great figure in the Renaissance,
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ูˆู‡ูˆ ุดุฎุต ู…ู‡ู… ุฌุฏุงู‹ ููŠ ุนุตุฑ ุงู„ู†ู‡ุถุฉ
02:36
and probably the basis for Machiavelli's "The Prince."
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ูˆู…ู† ุงู„ู…ุญุชู…ู„ ู‡ูˆ ุงู„ุฃุณุงุณ ู„ู…ูŠูƒุงููŠู„ูŠ "ุงู„ุฃู…ูŠุฑ".
02:39
He apparently lost an eye in battle,
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ูˆู‡ูˆ ู‚ุฏ ูู‚ุฏ ุนูŠู†ุงู‹ ููŠ ุงุญุฏุง ุงู„ู…ุนุงุฑูƒ
02:42
which is why he is always shown in profile.
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ูˆู„ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุณุจุจ ูŠุธู‡ุฑ ู‡ูƒุฐุง ููŠ ูƒู„ ุงู„ุตูˆุฑ
02:45
And this is Battista.
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ูˆู‡ุฐู‡ ู‡ูŠ ุจุงุชูŠุณุชุง
02:50
And then I decided I could move them around a little bit --
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ูˆู…ู† ุซู… ู‚ุฑุฑุช ุงู† ุงุญุฑูƒ ุงู„ุงู…ูˆุฑ ู‚ู„ูŠู„ุงู‹
02:56
so that for the first time in history, they're facing the same direction.
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ูˆู‡ุง ู‡ู…ุง ู„ุงูˆู„ ู…ุฑุฉ ููŠ ุงู„ุชุงุฑูŠุฎ ูŠู†ุธุฑุงู† ุงู„ู‰ ู†ูุณ ุงู„ูˆุฌู‡ุฉ
02:59
Whoops! Passed each other.
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ู‡ุงุงุง ! .. ูŠูˆุงุฌู‡ุงู† ุจุนุถู‡ู…ุง ุงู„ุจุนุถ
03:06
And then a visitor from another painting by Piero,
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ูˆู‡ุง ู‡ูˆ ู‚ุงุฏู… ุฌุฏูŠุฏ ู…ู† ู„ูˆุญุฉ ุฃุฎุฑู‰ ู„ุจูŠุฑูˆ
03:09
this is from "The Resurrection of Christ" --
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ุงู†ู‡ุง ู„ูˆุญุฉ " ุจุนุซ ุงู„ู…ุณูŠุญ "
03:12
as though the cast had just gotten of the set to have a chat.
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ูˆุฑุจู…ุง ุธู†ูˆุง ุงู†ู‡ู… ูŠู…ูƒู†ู‡ู… ุงู„ุดุฑูˆุน ููŠ ู…ุญุงุฏุซุฉ ู…ุง
03:17
And now, four large panels:
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ูˆู‡ุง ู‡ูŠ ุงู„ุฒูˆุงูŠุง ุงู„ุงุฑุจุนุฉ
03:20
this is upper left;
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ุงู„ุนู„ูˆูŠุฉ ุงู„ูŠุณุฑู‰
03:22
upper right;
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ุงู„ุนู„ูˆูŠุฉ ุงู„ูŠู…ู†ู‰
03:26
lower left;
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ุงู„ุณูู„ู‰ ุงู„ูŠุณุฑู‰
03:29
lower right.
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ุงู„ุณูู„ู‰ ุงู„ูŠู…ู†ู‰
03:31
Incidentally, I've never understood the conflict between abstraction and naturalism.
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ูˆุจุงู„ู…ู†ุงุณุจุฉ ุŒ ู„ู… ุฃูู‡ู… ู…ุทู„ู‚ุง ุงู„ุตุฑุงุน ุจูŠู† ุงู„ุชุฌุฑูŠุฏ ูˆุงู„ู…ุฐู‡ุจ ุงู„ุทุจูŠุนูŠ
03:38
Since all paintings are inherently abstract to begin with
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ุนู„ู‰ ุงุนุชุจุงุฑ ูƒู„ ุงู„ู„ูˆุญุงุช ุชูƒูˆู† ู…ุฌุฑุฏุฉ ุญูŠู† ุงู„ุจุฏุก ููŠู‡ุง
03:42
there doesn't seem to be an argument there.
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ูˆู„ุง ูŠุจุฏูˆ ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุงุดูƒุงู„ ู„ุฏูŠ ููŠ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุฌุฒุฆูŠุฉ
03:45
On another subject --
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ู„ู†ู†ุชู‚ู„ ุงู„ู‰ ู…ูˆุถูˆุน ุขุฎุฑ
03:48
(Laughter) --
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(ุถุญูƒ)
03:51
I was driving in the country one day with my wife,
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ูƒู†ุช ุงู‚ูˆุฏ ุฐุงุช ูŠูˆู… ู…ุน ุฒูˆุฌุชูŠ ููŠ ุงู„ุฑูŠู
03:55
and I saw this sign,
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ูˆู…ู† ุซู… ุฑุฃูŠุชู ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ู„ูˆุญุฉ
03:57
and I said, "That is a fabulous piece of design."
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ูˆู‚ู„ุช ููŠ ู†ูุณูŠ " ุงู†ู‡ ุชุตู…ูŠู… ู…ุจุฏุน "
04:00
And she said, "What are you talking about?"
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ูุฑุฏุช ุนู„ูŠ ุฒูˆุฌุชูŠ " ุนู† ู…ุงุฐุง ุชุชุญุฏุซ "
04:03
I said, "Well, it's so persuasive,
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ู‚ู„ุช " ุงู†ู‡ุง ู…ู‚ู†ุนุฉ
04:05
because the purpose of that sign is to get you into the garage,
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ู„ุงู† ุงู„ู‡ุฏู ู…ู† ุงู„ุงุนู„ุงู† ู‡ูˆ ุงู† ุชุฐู‡ุจ ุงู„ู‰ ุงู„ูƒุฑุงุฌ
04:10
and since most people are so suspicious of garages,
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ูˆู„ุงู† ู…ุนุธู… ุงู„ุงุดุฎุงุต ูŠุญุชุงุทูˆู† ู…ู† ุงู„ูƒุฑุงุฌ
04:15
and know that they're going to be ripped off,
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ู„ุงู†ู‡ู… ูŠุนู„ู…ูˆู† ุงู†ู‡ู… ุณูˆู ูŠุณู„ุจูˆู† ู‡ู†ุงูƒ
04:18
they use the word 'reliable.'
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ูู‚ุฏ ุงุณุชุฎุฏู…ูˆุง ุนุจุงุฑุฉ " ูŠู…ูƒู† ุงู„ูˆุซูˆู‚ ุจู‡ "
04:21
But everybody says they're reliable.
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ูˆู„ูƒู† ุงู„ุฌู…ูŠุน ูŠู‚ูˆู„ ุนู† ุงู†ูุณู‡ู… " ุงู†ู‡ ูŠู…ูƒู† ุงู„ูˆุซูˆู‚ ุจู‡ู… "
04:23
But, reliable Dutchman" --
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ูˆู„ูƒู† ู‡ูˆู„ู†ุฏูŠ ูŠู…ูƒู† ุงู„ูˆุซูˆู‚ ุจู‡
04:26
(Laughter) --
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(ุถุญูƒ)
04:28
"Fantastic!"
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ูู‡ุฐู‡ ุณุงุจู‚ุฉ ุฑุงุฆุนุฉ
04:30
Because as soon as you hear the word Dutchman --
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ู„ุงู†ู‡ ู…ุง ุงู† ุชุณู…ุน ุนุจุงุฑุฉ ู‡ูˆู„ู†ุฏูŠ
04:33
which is an archaic word, nobody calls Dutch people "Dutchmen" anymore --
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ูˆุงู„ุชูŠ ู‡ูŠ ุนุจุงุฑุฉ ุชุงุฑูŠุฎูŠุฉ ู„ุงู†ู‡ ู„ุง ุงุญุฏ ูŠุตู ุงู„ูŠูˆู… ุงู„ู‡ูˆู„ู†ุฏูŠูˆู† ุจ " ุฏุงุชุด ุจูŠุจูˆู„ "
04:36
but as soon as you hear Dutchman,
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ูˆู„ูƒู† ู…ุง ุงู† ุชุณู…ุน ุนุจุงุฑุฉ ุงู„ู‡ูˆู„ู†ุฏูŠ
04:38
you get this picture of the kid with his finger in the dike,
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ุญุชู‰ ูŠุฎุฑุฌ ุงู„ู‰ ุจุงู„ูƒ ู…ุดู‡ุฏ ุงู„ุทูู„ ุนู†ุฏ ุงู„ุณุฏ
04:41
preventing the thing from falling and flooding Holland, and so on.
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ูŠุญุงูˆู„ ุงู† ูŠู…ู†ุน ุงู„ููŠุถุงู† ู…ู† ุงุฌูŠุชุงุญ ู‡ูˆู„ู†ุฏุง
04:44
And so the entire issue is detoxified by the use of "Dutchman."
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ูˆู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุตูˆุฑุฉ ุชู…ุซู„ ู‚ุถูŠุฉ ู‡ูˆู„ู†ุฏุง ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุฏูˆุงู…
04:51
Now, if you think I'm exaggerating at all in this,
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ูˆุงู„ุงู† ุงู† ุงุนุชู‚ุฏุชู… ุงู†ู†ูŠ ุงุจุงู„ุบ ููŠ ู‡ุฐุง
04:54
all you have to do is substitute something else, like "Indonesian."
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ูƒู„ ู…ุง ุนู„ูŠูƒู… ุงู„ู‚ูŠุงู… ุจู‡ ู‡ูˆ ุงุณุชุจุฏุงู„ ูƒู„ู…ุฉ ุงู„ู‡ูˆู„ู†ุฏูŠ ุจุงู„ุงู†ุฏูˆู†ูŠุณูŠ
04:58
(Laughter)
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(ุถุญูƒ)
05:06
Or even "French."
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ุงูˆ ุงู„ูุฑู†ุณูŠ
05:09
(Laughter)
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(ุถุญูƒ)
05:14
Now, "Swiss" works, but you know it's going to cost a lot of money.
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ุฑุจู…ุง ุงู„ุณูˆูŠุณุฑูŠ ู‚ุฏ ูŠูƒูˆู† ู…ู‚ุจูˆู„ุง ูˆู„ูƒู† ู‡ุฐุง ุณูŠูƒู„ููƒ ุงู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ู† ุงู„ู…ุงู„
05:18
(Laughter)
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(ุถุญูƒ)
05:21
I'm going to take you quickly through the actual process of doing a poster.
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ุณูˆู ุงุงุฎุฐูƒู… ููŠ ุฑุญู„ุฉ ุนู† ูƒูŠููŠุฉ ุงู„ู‚ูŠุงู… ุจุตู†ุน ุจูˆุณุชุฑ
05:27
I do a lot of work for the School of Visual Arts, where I teach,
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ู„ู‚ุฏ ู‚ู…ุช ุจุงู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ู† ุงู„ุงุนู…ุงู„ ููŠ ู…ุฏุฑุณุฉ ุงู„ูู†ูˆู† ุงู„ุฌู…ูŠู„ุฉ ุญูŠุซ ุงู‚ูˆู… ุจุงู„ุชุฏุฑูŠุณ
05:30
and the director of this school -- a remarkable man named Silas Rhodes --
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ูˆู…ุฏูŠุฑ ุงู„ูƒู„ูŠุฉ ู‡ูˆ ุดุฎุต ู…ู…ูŠุฒ ุงุณู…ู‡ ุณูŠู„ุงุณ ุฑูˆุฏูŠุณ
05:33
often gives you a piece of text and he says, "Do something with this."
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ูˆู‡ูˆ ุนุงุฏุฉ ูŠุนุทูŠู†ูŠ ุฌู…ู„ ูŠู‚ูˆู„ ู„ูŠ " ู‚ู… ุจุดูŠุก ุญูŠุงู„ ู‡ุฐู‡ "
05:38
And so he did.
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ูˆุนุงุฏุฉ ุงุฎุฑุฌ ุจุจุนุถ ุงู„ุงุดูŠุงุก
05:40
And this was the text -- "In words as fashion the same rule will hold/
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ูˆูƒุงู†ุช ู‡ุฐู‡ ู‡ูŠ ุงู„ุนุจุงุฑุฉ " ููŠ ุงู„ูƒู„ู…ุงุช ู…ุซู„ ุงู„ู…ูˆุถุฉ ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุงู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ู„ูŠู‚ุงู„
05:43
Alike fantastic if too new or old/
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ุดูŠุก ู…ุซูŠุฑ ุฌุฏูŠุฏ ุงูˆ ู‚ุฏูŠู…
05:44
Be not the first by whom the new are tried/
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ุฑุจู…ุง ู‚ุงู… ุจู‡ ุงุญุฏ ู…ู† ุฐูŠ ู‚ุจู„
05:48
Nor yet the last to lay the old aside."
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ูˆู„ูƒู†ู‡ ู„ู… ูŠุตู…ุฏ ูˆุงู„ูŠูˆู… ูŠุนุงุฏ ู…ู† ุฌุฏูŠุฏ "
05:51
I could make nothing of that.
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ู„ู… ุงูƒู† ุงุฏุฑูŠ ู…ุงู„ุฐูŠ ูŠู…ูƒู†ู†ูŠ ุงู„ู‚ูŠุงู… ุจู‡ ุญูŠุงู„ ู‡ุฐุง
05:53
And I really struggled with this one.
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ููŠ ุงู„ุญู‚ูŠู‚ุฉ ุนุงู†ูŠุช ูƒุซูŠุฑุงู‹ ุจู‡ุฐุง
05:55
And the first thing I did, which was sort of in the absence of another idea,
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ูˆุงูˆู„ ุดูŠุก ุฎุทุฑ ุจุจุงู„ูŠ ู‡ูˆ ุงู† ุงุณุชุฎุฏู… ูƒู„ู…ุงุช ูˆุงุถุญุฉ ูˆุงุฎุฑุฉ ู„ุง
05:58
was say I'll sort of write it out and make some words big,
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ุงูŠ ุงู† ุงู‚ูˆู… ุจูƒุชุงุจุฉ ูƒู„ู…ุงุช ุจุฎุท ูƒุจูŠุฑ
06:01
and I'll have some kind of design on the back somehow,
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ูˆู…ู† ุงุซู… ุงุตู…ู… ุงู„ู„ูˆุญุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู† ุชู†ุฏุฑุฌ ุงู„ุจู‚ูŠุฉ ููŠ ุงู„ุฎู„ู
06:06
and I was hoping -- as one often does -- to stumble into something.
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ูˆูƒู†ุช ุงุชู…ู†ู‰ .. ูƒู…ุง ุงู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ .. ุงู† ูŠููŠุฏ ุงู„ุงู…ุฑ
06:09
So I took another crack at it --
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ูˆู„ูƒู† ู…ู† ุซู… ุงุณุชุฎุฏู… ุทุฑูŠู‚ุฉ ุงุฎุฑู‰ .. ุญุทู…ุช ุงู„ูƒู„ู…ุงุช
06:12
you've got to keep it moving --
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ูˆู…ู† ุซู… ุงุณุชู…ุฑูŠุช ุจุงู„ู…ุญุงูˆู„ุฉ
06:14
and I Xeroxed some words on pieces of colored paper
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ูˆู‚ุฏ ู‚ู…ุช ุจู‚ุตู‚ุตุฉ ูƒู„ู…ุงุช ุจูˆุงุณุทุฉ ุงูˆุฑุงู‚ ู…ู„ูˆู†ุฉ
06:16
and I pasted them down on an ugly board.
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ูˆุงู„ุตู‚ุชู‡ุง ุนู„ู‰ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ู„ูˆุญ ุงู„ู‚ุจูŠุญ
06:19
I thought that something would come out of it,
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ูˆู…ู† ุซู… ุฎุทุฑ ุจุจุงู„ูŠ ุงู„ู‚ูŠุงู… ุจุดูŠุก ุขุฎุฑ ..
06:22
like "Words rule fantastic new old first last Pope"
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ู…ุซู„ " ุงู„ูƒู„ู…ุงุช ุชุญูƒู… ุงู„ุนุงู„ู… ุงู„ุญุฏูŠุซ ุงู„ู‚ุฏูŠู… ุงู„ุงูˆู„ ุงู„ุขุฎุฑ ุจูˆุจ "
06:25
because it's by Alexander Pope,
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ู„ุงู† ุงู„ูƒู„ู…ุงุช ููŠ ุงู„ุงุณุงุณ ู‡ูŠ ู„ ุฃู„ูƒุณู†ุฏุฑ ุจูˆุจ
06:28
but I sort of made a mess out of it,
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ูˆู„ูƒู† ููŠ ุงู„ุญู‚ูŠู‚ุฉ ุงุฎุชู„ุท ุนู„ูŠ ุงู„ุงู…ุฑ
06:30
and then I thought I'd repeat it in some way so it was legible.
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ูˆู…ู† ููƒุฑุช ุจุงู† ุงุนูŠุฏ ุงู„ุงู…ุฑ ุจุตูˆุฑุฉ ู…ู†ุทู‚ูŠุฉ ุงูƒุซุฑ
06:32
So, it was going nowhere.
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ูˆู„ูƒู† ู„ู… ุงุตู„ ุงู„ู‰ ู†ุชูŠุฌุฉ
06:35
Sometimes, in the middle of a resistant problem,
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ุจุนุถ ุงู„ุงุญูŠุงู† ููŠ ุฎุถู… ุญุฏูˆุซ ุงู„ู…ุดูƒู„ุฉ
06:39
I write down things that I know about it.
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ุงูƒุชุจ ุจุนุถ ุงู„ุงุดูŠุงุก ุงู„ุชูŠ ุงุนุฑูู‡ุง ุนู†ู‡ุง - ุงู„ู…ุดูƒู„ุฉ -
06:42
But you can see the beginning of an idea there,
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ูˆูŠู…ูƒู†ูƒู… ุงู† ุชุฑูˆุง ุจุฏุงูŠุฉ ุญู„ ุงู„ู…ุดูƒู„ุฉ ู‡ู†ุง
06:44
because you can see the word "new" emerging from the "old."
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ูƒูŠู ุงู† ุนุจุงุฑุฉ " ุฌุฏูŠุฏ " ุชุฎุฑุฌ ู…ู† ุตู„ุจ ุนุจุงุฑุฉ " ู‚ุฏูŠู… "
06:47
That's what happens.
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ู‡ุฐุง ู…ุง ุญุฏุซ
06:49
There's a relationship between the old and the new;
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ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุนู„ุงู‚ุฉ ุจูŠู† ุงู„ู‚ุฏูŠู… ูˆุงู„ุฌุฏูŠุฏ
06:52
the new emerges from the context of the old.
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ู„ุงู† ุงู„ุฌุฏูŠุฏ ูŠุฎุฑุฌ ู…ู† ุงู„ู‚ุฏูŠู…
06:54
And then I did some variations of it,
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ูˆู…ู† ุซู… ู‚ู…ุช ุจุนุฏุฉ ุงูˆุฌู‡ ู„ุฐู„ูƒ ุงู„ุงู…ุฑ
06:56
but it still wasn't coalescing graphically at all.
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ูˆู„ูƒู†ู‡ ู…ุงุฒุงู„ ู†ูˆุนุงู‹ ู…ู† ุงุฆุชู„ุงู ุชุตูˆูŠุฑูŠ ุนุงู…
07:00
I had this other version which had something interesting about it
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ูˆูƒุงู† ู„ุฏูŠ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุงุตุฏุงุฑ ..ูˆุงู„ุฐูŠ ุธู†ู†ุช ุงู†ู‡ ู…ู…ุซูŠุฑ ู„ู„ุงู‡ุชู…ุงู…
07:03
in terms of being able to put it together in your mind from clues.
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ู„ุงู†ู‡ ู‚ุงุฏุฑ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู† ูŠุฏูุน ุงู„ุฏู…ุงุบ ู„ู„ุจุญุซ ุนู† ุงู„ุขุซุงุฑ
07:09
The W was clearly a W, the N was clearly an N,
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ูุงู„ุญุฑู " W " ู‡ูˆ ูุนู„ุงู‹ " W " ูˆ " N " ู‡ูˆ ูุนู„ุงู‹ " N "
07:12
even though they were very fragmentary
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ุญุชู‰ ู„ูˆ ูƒุงู†ุช ุงู„ูƒู„ู…ุงุช ู…ุฌุฒุฃุฉ
07:16
and there wasn't a lot of information in it.
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ูˆู„ู… ูŠูƒู† ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุงู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ู† ุงู„ู…ุนู„ูˆู…ุงุช
07:18
Then I got the words "new" and "old"
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ูˆู†ูˆุนุง ู…ุง ุนุฏุช ุงู„ู‰ ูƒู„ู…ุฉ ู‚ุฏูŠู… ูˆุฌุฏูŠุฏ
07:20
and now I had regressed back to a point where there seemed to be no return.
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ูˆูƒู†ุช ุงู„ุงู† ู‚ุฏ ุชุฌุงูˆุฒุช ู†ู‚ุทุฉ ุงู„ุนูˆุฏุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ู…ุง ูŠุจุฏูˆ
07:25
(Laughter)
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(ุถุญูƒ)
07:27
I was really desperate at this point.
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ููŠ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ู…ุฑุญู„ุฉ ุงุตุจุช ุจุงู„ุงุญุจุงุท ุญู‚ุงู‹
07:30
And so, I do something I'm truthfully ashamed of,
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ูˆู‚ู…ุช ุจุดูŠุก .. ุญู‚ุงู‹ ุฎุฌู„ุช ู…ู†ู‡
07:34
which is that I took two drawings I had made for another purpose
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ูุงุฎุฐุช ุฑุณู…ุชูŠู† ูƒู†ุช ู‚ุฏ ุฑุณู…ุชู‡ู…ุง ู…ู† ุฐูŠ ู‚ุจู„
07:38
and I put them together.
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ูˆูˆุถุนุชู‡ู…ุง ุณูˆูŠุฉ
07:43
It says "dreams" at the top.
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ู…ูƒุชูˆุจ ุนู„ูŠู‡ุง ุงู„ุงุญู„ุงู… ููŠ ุงู„ุงุนู„ู‰
07:46
And I was going to do a thing, I say, "Well, change the copy.
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ูˆูƒู†ุช ุนู„ู‰ ูˆุดูƒ ุงู„ู‚ูŠุงู… ุจุฃู…ุฑ .. ูู‚ู„ุช " ุญุณู†ุงู‹ .. ู„ุงุบูŠุฑ ุงู„ู†ุณุฎุฉ
07:49
Let it say something about dreams, and come to SVA
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ุฏุนู†ูŠ ุงุฌู„ ุงู„ุจูˆุณุชุฑ ูŠุฎุจุฑ ุดูŠุฆุงู‹ ุนู† ุงู„ุงุญู„ุงู…
07:53
and you'll sort of fulfill your dreams."
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ูˆู…ู† ุซู… ุงุถูŠู ุดูŠุฆุงู‹ ูŠุนุจุฑ ุนู† ุชุญู‚ูŠู‚ ุงู„ุงุญู„ุงู… "
07:55
But, to my credit,
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ูˆูŠุฌุจ ุงู† ุงุฐูƒุฑ
07:57
I was so embarrassed about doing that
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ุงู†ู†ูŠ ูƒู†ุช ู…ุญุฑุฌุงู‹ ู„ุงู†ู†ูŠ ู‚ู…ุช ุจุฐู„ูƒ
08:00
that I never submitted this sketch.
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ู„ุฏุฑุฌุฉ ุงู†ู†ูŠ ู„ู… ุงู‚ุฏู… ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุงุตุฏุงุฑ
08:04
And, finally, I arrived at the following solution.
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ูˆููŠ ุงู„ู†ู‡ุงูŠุฉ ูˆุตู„ุช ุงู„ู‰ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุญู„
08:09
Now, it doesn't look terribly interesting,
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ูˆุงู„ุงู† .. ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุงุตุฏุงุฑ ู„ุง ูŠุจุฏูˆ ู…ุซูŠุฑุฃู‹ ู„ู„ุงู‡ุชู…ุงู…
08:13
but it does have something
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ูˆู„ูƒู†ู‡ ููŠู‡ ุดูŠุก ู…ู…ูŠุฒ
08:16
that distinguishes it from a lot of other posters.
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ูˆู‡ุฐุง ูŠู…ูŠุฒู‡ ุนู† ูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ู† ุงู„ุงุตุฏุงุฑุงุช ุงู„ุณุงุจู‚ุฉ
08:22
For one thing, it transgresses the idea of what a poster's supposed to be,
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ุจุฏุงูŠุฉ ุงู†ู‡ ูŠุชุนุฏ ููƒุฑุฉ ุงู„ุจูˆุณุชุฑ ูˆู…ุง ูŠุฌุจ ุงู† ูŠู†ุต ุนู„ูŠู‡
08:26
which is to be understood and seen immediately, and not explained.
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ูˆู‡ูˆ ู…ูู‡ูˆู… ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ููˆุฑ .. ูˆู„ุง ูŠุญุชุงุฌ ู„ู„ุดุฑุญ
08:34
I remember hearing all of you in the graphic arts --
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ุงู†ุง ุงุฐูƒุฑ ู…ู‚ูˆู„ุฉ ููŠ ุงู„ูู†ูˆู† ุงู„ุฌู…ูŠู„ุฉ ูƒุงู†ุช ุชู‚ูˆู„
08:37
"If you have to explain it, it ain't working."
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ุงู„ุจูˆุณุชุฑ ุงู„ุฐูŠ ูŠุญุชุงุฌ ู„ู„ุดุฑุญ .. ู„ูŠุณ ุจุจูˆุณุชุฑุงู‹
08:40
And one day I woke up and I said, "Well, suppose that's not true?"
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ูˆุฐุงุช ูŠูˆู… ุงุณุชูŠู‚ุธุช .. ูˆู‚ู„ุช ููŠ ู†ูุณูŠ .. ู…ุงุฐุง ู„ูˆ ูƒุงู†ุช ุชู„ูƒ ุงู„ุนุจุงุฑุฉ ุฎุงุทุฆุฉ
08:44
(Laughter)
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(ุถุญูƒ)
08:50
So here's what it says in my explanation at the bottom left.
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ูˆู‡ุฐุง ู…ุง ูƒุชุจุชู‡ ููŠ ุชูุณูŠุฑูŠ ููŠ ุงุณูู„ ุงู„ุตูˆุฑุฉ ู…ู† ุงู„ุทุฑู ุงู„ุงูŠุณุฑ
08:55
It says, "Thoughts: This poem is impossible.
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ู‚ู„ุช " ุงู„ุงููƒุงุฑ : ุงู„ุดุนุฑ ู‡ูˆ ุดูŠุก ู…ุณุชุญูŠู„ "
09:01
Silas usually has a better touch with his choice of quotations.
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ุณูŠู„ุงุณ ู„ุฏูŠู‡ ุนุงุฏุฉ ู„ู…ุณุฉ ุงุฌู…ู„ ููŠ ุงุฎุชูŠุงุฑุงุช ุงู„ุงู‚ุชุจุงุณุงุช
09:05
This one generates no imagery at all."
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ูˆู‡ุฐู‡ ู„ูŠุณุช ุชุฎูŠู„ูŠู„ุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุงุทู„ุงู‚ "
09:07
I am now exposing myself to my audience, right?
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ุงู†ุง ุงู„ุงู† ุงูƒุดู ู†ูุณูŠ ุงู…ุงู… ุงู„ุญุถูˆุฑ . ุงู„ูŠุณ ูƒุฐู„ูƒ ุŸ
09:10
Which is something you never want to do professionally.
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ูˆู‡ูˆ ุดูŠุก ู„ุง ูŠู‚ูˆู… ุจู‡ ุงู„ู…ุญุชุฑููˆู†
09:13
"Maybe the words can make the image without anything else happening.
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" ุฑุจู…ุง ุงู„ูƒู„ู…ุงุช ูŠู…ูƒู†ู‡ุง ุงู† ุชุบูŠุฑ ุงู„ุตูˆุฑุฉ ุจุฏูˆู† ุงู† ุชุชุบูŠุฑ ู‡ูŠ ุฐุงุชู‡ุง "
09:17
What's the heart of this poem?
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ูˆู…ุง ู‡ูˆ ู…ุนู†ู‰ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ู‚ุตูŠุฏุฉ
09:19
Don't be trendy if you want to be serious.
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ู„ุง ุชูƒู† ู…ุชุณุงู‡ู„ุงู‹ ุญูŠู† ุงู„ุฌุฏูŠุฉ
09:21
Is doing the poster this way trendy in itself?
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ุงู† ุงู„ู‚ูŠุงู… ุจุตู†ุน ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุจูˆุณุชุฑ ุจู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุดุงูƒู„ุฉ ู‡ูˆ ุงู„ุชุณุงู‡ู„ ุจุนูŠู†ู‡
09:24
I guess one could reduce the idea further
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ุงุนุชู‚ุฏ ุงู†ู‡ ูƒุงู† ุจุงู„ุงู…ูƒุงู† ุชู‚ู„ูŠู„ ุนุฑุถ ุงู„ููƒุฑุฉ ุงูƒุซุฑ
09:26
by suggesting that the new emerges behind and through the old,
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ุนู† ุทุฑูŠู‚ ูˆุถุน ูƒู„ู…ุฉ ุงู„ุฌุฏูŠุฏ ูˆู‡ูŠ ุชุฎุฑุฌ ู…ู† ูƒู„ู…ุฉ ุงู„ู‚ุฏูŠู…
09:30
like this."
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ู…ุซู„ ู‡ุฐู‡ ..
09:32
And then I show you a little drawing --
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ุณูˆู ุงุฑูŠูƒู… ุฑุณู…ุฉ ุจุณูŠุทุฉ
09:34
you see, you remember that old thing I discarded?
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ุงุชุฑูˆู† .. ู‡ู„ ุชุฐูƒุฑูˆู† ุงู„ุตูˆุฑุฉ ุงู„ู‚ุฏูŠู…ุฉ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุชุฎู„ูŠุช ุนู†ู‡ุง
09:37
Well, I found a way to use it.
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ุญุณู†ุงู‹ . . ู„ู‚ุฏ ูˆุฌุฏุช ุทุฑูŠู‚ุฉ ู„ุงุณุชุฎุฏุงู…ู‡ุง
09:39
So, there's that little alternative over there,
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ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุจุฏูŠู„ ู‚ุงุฆู… ู‡ู†ุง ุนู„ู‰ ู…ุง ูŠุจุฏูˆ
09:42
and I say, "Not bad," -- criticizing myself --
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ูˆุงู‚ูˆู„ " ุงู†ู‡ ู„ูŠุณ ุณูŠุฆุงู‹ - ุงู†ู‚ุฏ ู†ูุณูŠ ู‡ู†ุง
09:46
"but more didactic than visual.
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ูˆู„ูƒู†ูŠ ูŠุจุฏูˆ ุชู„ู‚ูŠู†ูŠ .. ุงูƒุซุฑ ู…ู†ู‡ ุจุตุฑูŠ
09:49
Maybe what wants to be said is that old and the new are locked in a dialectical embrace,
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ุฑุจู…ุง ู…ุง ูŠู…ูƒู† ู‚ูˆู„ู‡ ู‡ู†ุง ุงู† ุงู„ู‚ุฏูŠู… ูˆุงู„ุฌุฏูŠุฏ ู…ุญุตูˆุฑุงู† ููŠ ู…ุณู…ูŠุงุช ุชู„ู‚ูŠู†ูŠุฉ
09:52
a kind of dance where each defines the other."
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ุงู†ู‡ุง ู†ูˆุน ู…ู† ุงู„ุชูˆุงุตู„ ุงู„ุฐูŠ ูŠุฌุนู„ ูƒู„ ูƒู„ู…ุฉ ุชุชูˆุถุญ ุจุงู„ูƒู„ู…ุฉ ุงู„ุงุฎุฑู‰
09:54
And then more self-questioning -- "Am I being simple-minded?
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ูˆู…ู† ุซู… ุทุฑุญุช ุนู„ู‰ ู†ูุณูŠ ุชุณุงุคู„ุง .. ู‡ู„ ุงู†ุง ุจุณูŠุท ุงู„ุชููƒูŠุฑ ุจู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุชุตุฑู
09:58
Is this the kind of simple that looks obvious, or the kind that looks profound?
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ู‡ู„ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุจุณุงุทุฉ ูุนู„ุง ูƒู…ุง ู‡ูŠ ุชุจุฏูˆ .. ุงู… ุงู†ู‡ุง ุฃุตูŠู„ุฉ ุฌุฏุงู‹
10:02
There's a significant difference.
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ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุงุฎุชู„ุงู ูƒุจูŠุฑ
10:04
This could be embarrassing.
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ุฑุจู…ุง ูŠู…ูƒู† ุชุณู…ูŠุฉ ุฐู„ูƒ " ุจุงู„ุฃู…ุฑ ุงู„ู…ุญุฑุฌ "
10:06
Actually, I realize fear of embarrassment drives me as much as any ambition.
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ููŠ ุงู„ุญู‚ูŠู‚ุฉ .. ุงุฏุฑูƒุช ุงู† ุงู„ุฎูˆู ู…ู† ุงู„ุงุญุฑุงุฌ ูŠุฏูุนู†ูŠ ูƒู…ุง ุงู„ุทู…ูˆุญ
10:10
Do you think this sort of thing could really attract a student to the school?"
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ู‡ู„ ุชุธู†ูˆุง ุงู† ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ู†ูˆุน ู…ู† ุงู„ุญุฏูŠุซ ูŠู…ูƒู† ุงู† ูŠุฏูุน ุดุฎุตุงู‹ ู„ู„ุชุนู„ู…
10:14
(Laughter)
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(ุถุญูƒ)
10:21
Well, I think there are two fresh things here -- two fresh things.
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ุงุนุชู‚ุฏ ุงู† ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุงู…ุฑูŠู† ุฌุฏูŠุฏูŠู† ู‡ู†ุง ..
10:26
One is the sort of willingness to expose myself to a critical audience,
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ุงู„ุงูˆู„ ู‡ูˆ ุงู„ุฑุบุจุฉ ููŠ ุงู† ุงุนุฑุถ ู†ูุณูŠ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุฌู…ู‡ูˆุฑ ุงู„ู†ุงู‚ุฏ
10:33
and not to suggest that I am confident about what I'm doing.
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ุฏูˆู† ุงู† ุงุฏุนูŠ ุงู†ู†ูŠ ูˆุงุซู‚ ู…ู…ุง ุงู‚ูˆู… ุจู‡
10:39
And as you know, you have to have a front.
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ูˆูƒู…ุง ุชุนู„ู…ูˆู† .. ูŠุฌุจ ุงู† ูŠูƒูˆู† ู„ุฏูŠูƒ ุฌุจู‡ุฉ
10:43
I mean -- you've got to be confident;
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ุงู‚ุตุฏ ูŠุฌุจ ุงู† ุชู…ู„ูƒ ุงู„ุซู‚ุฉ
10:45
if you don't believe in your work, who else is going to believe in it?
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ุงู† ู„ู… ุชุคู…ู† ุจุนู…ู„ูƒ ู…ู† ุณูŠุคู…ู† ุจู‡
10:48
So that's one thing,
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ู‡ุฐุง ู‡ูˆ ุงู„ุงู…ุฑ ุงู„ุงูˆู„
10:50
to introduce the idea of doubt into graphics.
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ู„ุนุฑุถ ููƒุฑุฉ ููŠู‡ุง ุดูƒ " ุชุตูˆูŠุฑูŠ "
10:55
That can be a big contribution.
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ุงู† ู‡ุฐุง ูŠู…ูƒู† ุงู† ูŠูƒูˆู† ู…ุณุงู‡ู…ุฉ ูƒุจูŠุฑุฉ -ุงู„ุชุดูƒูŠูƒ ููŠ ุนู…ู„ู‡-
10:57
The other thing is to actually give you two solutions for the price of one;
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ุงู„ุงู…ุฑ ุงู„ุซุงู†ูŠ ูŠุนุทูŠูƒ ุญู„ูŠู† ู…ู† ุงุฌู„ ู…ุดูƒู„ุฉ ูˆุงุญุฏุฉ
11:01
you get the big one
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ู„ุฏูŠูƒ ุงู„ุญู„ ุงู„ุงูƒุจุฑ ..
11:04
and if you don't like that, how about the little one?
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ูˆุงู† ู„ู… ูŠุนุฌุจูƒ .. ู„ุฏูŠูƒ ุงู„ุญู„ ุงู„ุงุตุบุฑ
11:07
(Laughter)
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(ุถุญูƒ)
11:09
And that too is a relatively new idea.
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ูˆู‡ุฐู‡ ุฃูŠุถุง ููƒุฑุฉ ุฌุฏูŠุฏุฉ ู†ุณุจูŠุฉ
11:12
And here's just a series of experiments
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ูˆู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุงู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ู† ุงู„ุชุฌุงุฑุจ
11:15
where I ask the question of -- does a poster have to be square?
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ุญูŠุซ ุงุณุฆู„ ู†ูุณูŠ .. ู‡ู„ ูŠุฌุจ ุงู† ูŠูƒูˆู† ุงู„ุจูˆุณุชุฑ ู…ุฑุจุนุงู‹
11:20
Now, this is a little illusion.
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ุงู„ุขู† .. ู‡ุฐุง ุฎุฏุงุน ุจุตุฑูŠ .. ู†ูˆุนุง ู…ุง
11:23
That poster is not folded.
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ุงู† ุงู„ุจูˆุณุชุฑ ู„ูŠุณ ู…ุทูˆูŠุงู‹
11:25
It's not folded, that's a photograph
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ุงู†ู‡ ู„ูŠุณ ู…ุทูˆูŠุงู‹ .. ุงู†ู‡ุง ุตูˆุฑุฉ
11:28
and it's cut on the diagonal.
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ูˆู‡ูˆ ู…ู‚ุทูˆุน ุจุตูˆุฑุฉ ู‚ุทุฑูŠุฉ
11:31
Same cheap trick in the upper left-hand corner.
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ู†ูุณ ุงู„ุงู…ุฑ ููŠ ุงู„ุฒุงูˆูŠุฉ ุงู„ุนู„ูŠุง ุงู„ูŠุณุฑู‰
11:36
And here,
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ูˆู‡ู†ุง
11:38
a very peculiar poster because,
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ู‡ุฐุง ุจูˆุณุชุฑ ู…ู…ูŠุฒ
11:40
simply because of using the isometric perspective in the computer,
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ู„ุงู†ู‡ ุจุจุณุงุทุฉ ูŠุณุชุฎุฏู… ุงู„ู†ุธุงู… ุงู„ุงูŠุฒูˆู…ุชุฑูŠ ููŠ ุงู„ูƒู…ุจูŠูˆุชุฑ
11:45
it won't sit still in the space.
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ุงู†ู‡ ู„ุง ูŠุซุจุช
11:48
At times, it seems to be wider at the back than the front,
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ููŠ ุจุนุถ ุงู„ุงูˆู‚ุงุช ูŠุจุฏูˆ ุนุฑูŠุถุงู‹ ู…ู† ุงู„ุฎู„ู ุงูƒุซุฑ ู…ู†ู‡ ู…ู† ุงู„ุงู…ุงู…
11:51
and then it shifts.
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ุงู†ู‡ ูŠุชุบูŠุฑ
11:53
And if you sit here long enough, it'll float off the page into the audience.
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ูˆุงู† ูƒู†ุช ุฌุงู„ุณุงู‹ ู„ูุชุฑุฉ ุทูˆูŠู„ุฉ .. ุณูˆู ุชู„ุงุญุธ ุงู†ู‡ ูŠุทูˆู ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุตูุญุฉ ุชุฌุงู‡ ุงู„ู…ุดุงู‡ุฏ
11:58
But, we don't have time.
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ูˆู„ูƒู† ู†ุญู† ู„ุง ู†ู…ู„ูƒ ุงู„ูˆู‚ุช ู„ุฐู„ูƒ
12:00
(Laughter)
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(ุถุญูƒ)
12:01
And then an experiment --
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ูˆู‡ู†ุง ุชุฌุฑุจุฉ ..
12:03
a little bit about the nature of perspective,
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ุนู† ู…ูู‡ูˆู… ุงู„ุทุจูŠุนุฉ
12:06
where the outside shape is determined by the peculiarity of perspective,
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ุญูŠุซ ูŠุจุฏูˆ ุงู„ุดูƒู„ ุงู„ุฎุงุฑุฌูŠ ู…ุญุฏุฏ ุจูˆุงุณุทุฉ ู…ู†ุธูˆุฑ ุฎุตูˆุตูŠ
12:10
but the shape of the bottle -- which is identical to the outside shape --
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ูˆู„ูƒู† ุงู„ุดูƒู„ ููŠ ุงู„ุนุจูˆุฉ .. ูŠุจุฏูˆ ู…ุชุทุงุจู‚ุงู‹ ู„ู…ุง ู‡ูˆ ููŠ ุงู„ุฎุงุฑุฌ
12:14
is seen frontally.
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ูˆูŠุฑู‰ ู…ู† ุงู„ุฌู‡ุฉ ุงู„ุงู…ุงู…ูŠุฉ
12:16
And another piece for the art directors' club
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ูˆุงู„ู‚ุทุนุฉ ุงู„ุงุฎุฑู‰ .. ู„ู†ุงุฏูŠ ุงู„ู…ุฎุฑุฌูŠู† ุงู„ูู†ูŠูŠู†
12:20
is "Anna Rees" casting long shadows.
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ุงู†ู‡ุง ุขู†ุง ุฑูŠุฒ ุชู‚ุฏู… ุธู„ุงู„ุง ุทูˆูŠู„ุฉ
12:24
This is another poster from the School of Visual Arts.
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ุงู†ู‡ ู„ูŠุณ ุจูˆุณุชุฑุงู‹ ู…ู† ู…ุฏุฑุณุฉ ุงู„ูู†ูˆู† ุงู„ุฌู…ูŠู„ุฉ
12:27
There were 10 artists invited to participate in it,
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ูƒุงู† ู‡ู†ุงูƒ 10 ูู†ุงู†ูŠู† ู…ุฏุนูˆูŠู† ู„ู„ุชู†ุงูุณ ุนู„ู‰ ุชุตู…ูŠู…ู‡
12:32
and it was one of those things where it was extremely competitive
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ูˆูƒุงู† ูˆุงุญุฏ ู…ู† ุงู„ุงุดูŠุงุก ุงู„ุงูƒุซุฑ ุชู†ุงูุณูŠุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุงุทู„ุงู‚
12:34
and I didn't want to be embarrassed,
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ูˆู„ู… ุงูƒู† ุงุฑูŠุฏ ุงู† ุงูุญุฑุฌ
12:36
so I worked very hard on this.
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ูุนู…ู„ุช ุนู„ูŠู‡ ู…ุทูˆู„ุงู‹ ูˆุจูƒู„ ุฌุฏูŠู‡
12:39
The idea was -- and it was a brilliant idea --
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ูƒุงู†ุช ุงู„ููƒุฑุฉ .. ูˆู‡ูŠ ููƒุฑุฉ ุฑุงุฆุนุฉ
12:41
was to have 10 posters distributed throughout the city's subway system
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ุงู† ูŠูƒูˆู† ู‡ู†ุงูƒ 10 ุจูˆุณุชุฑุงุช ู…ูˆุฒุนุฉ ููŠ ู…ุชุฑูˆ ุงู„ุงู†ูุงู‚ ููŠ ุงู„ู…ุฏูŠู†ุฉ
12:45
so every time you got on the subway you'd be passing a different poster,
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ุญูŠุซ ูƒู„ู…ุง ุฏุฎู„ุช ู…ุญุทุฉ ู…ุง ุณุชุฌุฏ ุจูˆุณุชุฑุง ู…ุฎุชู„ูุงู‹
12:49
all of which had a different idea of what art is.
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ูˆูƒู„ู‡ุง ุชุชุญุฏุซ ุนู† ู†ูุณ ุงู„ููƒุฑุฉ ูˆู„ูƒู† ุจู„ู…ุณุฉ ูู†ูŠุฉ ู…ุฎุชู„ูุฉ
12:53
But I was absolutely stuck on the idea of "art is"
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ูˆู„ูƒู† ูƒู†ุช ู…ุชุนู„ู‚ุงู‹ ุจููƒุฑุฉ " ุงู„ูู† ู‡ูˆ "
12:59
and trying to determine what art was.
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ูˆูƒู†ุช ุงุญุงูˆู„ ุงู† ุงุนุฑู‘ู ุงู„ูู†
13:03
But then I gave up and I said, "Well, art is whatever."
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ูˆู„ูƒู† ุงุณุชุณู„ู…ุช ูˆู‚ู„ุช ู„ู†ูุณูŠ " ุงู„ูู† ู‡ูˆ "ู…ู‡ู…ุง ูŠูƒู†.. "
13:07
And as soon as I said that,
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ูˆู…ุง ุงู† ู‚ู„ุช ู‡ุฐุง
13:09
I discovered that the word "hat" was hidden in the word "whatever,"
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ุญุชู‰ ุงูƒุชุดูุช ุงู† ูƒู„ู…ุฉ " ู‚ุจุนุฉ " ูƒุงู†ุช ู…ุฎุชุจุฆุฉ ุจูŠู† ูƒู„ู…ุฉ " ู…ู‡ู…ุง ูŠูƒู† " W"HAT"EVER
13:12
and that led me to the inevitable conclusion.
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ูˆุจุงู„ู†ุณุจุฉ ู„ูŠ ูƒุงู† ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุฎูŠุท ู„ุงูƒุชุดุงู ู…ู…ูŠุฒ
13:15
But then again, it's on my list of didactic posters.
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ูˆู„ูƒู† ุงู„ุจูˆุณุชุฑ ูƒุงู† ู„ู‡ ุบุงูŠุฉ ู…ุนูŠู†ุฉ
13:19
My intent is to have a literary accompaniment that explains the poster,
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ูˆูƒุงู†ุช ู†ูŠุชูŠ ุงู† ุงุฌุฏ ุจุตูˆุฑุฉ ู…ุง ุดูŠุก ูŠุดุฑุญ ุงู„ุจูˆุณุชุฑ ุจุตูˆุฑุฉ ุฎููŠุฉ
13:23
in case you don't get it.
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ููŠ ุญุงู„ ู„ู… ูŠุณุชุทุน ุงู„ู‚ุงุฑู‰ุก ูู‡ู…ู‡ ู…ุจุงุดุฑุฉ
13:26
(Laughter)
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(ุถุญูƒ)
13:28
Now this says, "Note to the viewer:
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ู‡ุฐู‡ ุชู‚ูˆู„ " ู…ู„ุงุญุธุฉ ู„ู„ู…ุดุงู‡ุฏ ..
13:30
I thought I might use a visual cliche of our time -- Magritte's everyman --
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ู‚ู„ุช ู„ู†ูุณูŠ ุฑุจู…ุง ุงุณุชุทูŠุน ุงุณุชุฎุฏุงู… ุดูŠุก ู…ุจุชุฐู„ ู…ู† ุนุงู„ู…ู†ุง .. ู…ุงุฑุบุฑูŠุช ูƒู„ ุดุฎุต ..
13:33
to express the idea that art is mystery, continuity and history.
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ู„ูƒูŠ ุงุนุจุฑ ุนู† ุงู† ุงู„ูู† ู‡ูˆ ุบู…ูˆุถ ูˆุงุณุชู…ุฑุงุฑ ูˆุชุงุฑูŠุฎ
13:37
I'm also convinced that, in an age of computer manipulation,
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ูˆู„ูƒู†ูŠ ู…ู‚ุชู†ุน ุงู† ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุนุตุฑ ู‡ูˆ ุนุตุฑ ุงู„ุฑุณู… ุจุงู„ุญุงุณูˆุจ
13:40
surrealism has become banal,
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ูˆุงู„ุณูˆุฑูŠุงู„ูŠุฉ ู„ู… ุชุนุฏ ุณูˆู‰ .. ุงุจุชุฐุงู„
13:43
a shadow of its former self.
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ุงู†ู‡ุง ู…ุฌุฑุฏ ุงู†ุนูƒุงุณ ู„ู†ูุณู‡ุง
13:45
The phrase 'Art is whatever'
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ุงู† ุงู„ุนุจุงุฑุฉ " ุงู„ูู† ู‡ูˆ ู…ู‡ู…ุง ูŠูƒู† "
13:47
expresses the current inclusiveness that surrounds art-making --
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ุชุนุจุฑ ุนู† ุงู„ุดู…ูˆู„ูŠุฉ ุงู„ุญุงู„ูŠุฉ ุงู„ู…ุญูŠุทุฉ ุจุตู†ุงุนุฉ ุงู„ูู†
13:50
a sort of 'it ain't what you do, it's the way that you do it' notion.
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ูˆุงู„ุงู…ุฑ ุจุงุช ุงู„ูŠูˆู… ูƒู…ุง ุงู„ู‚ูˆู„ ุงู„ุดู‡ูŠุฑ " ู„ุง ูŠู‡ู… ู…ุง ุชู‚ูˆู… ุจู‡ .. ุจู„ ูƒูŠู ุชู‚ูˆู… ุจู‡ "
13:53
The shadow of Magritte falls across the central part of the poster
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ูˆุธู„ ู…ุงุฑุฌุฑูŠุช ู‡ู†ุง ูŠุทู„ ุนู„ู‰ ุฌู…ูŠุน ุงุฌุฒุงุก ุงู„ุจูˆุณุชุฑ
13:57
a poetic event that occurs as the shadow man isolates the word 'hat,'
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ุงู†ู‡ ุญุฏุซ ุดุนุฑูŠ .. ูŠุญุฏุซ ููŠ ุธู„ ุงู„ุฑุฌุงู„ ุงู„ู…ุนุฒูˆู„ูŠู† ุฏุงุฎู„ ูƒู„ู…ุฉ " ู‚ุจุนุฉ "
14:02
hidden in the word 'whatever.'
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ูˆุงู„ุชูŠ ู‡ูŠ ุจุงู„ุงุณุงุณ ู…ุฎุชุจุฆุฉ ุฏุงุฎู„ ูƒู„ู…ุฉ " ู…ู‡ู…ุง ูŠูƒู† "
14:04
The four hats shown in the poster suggests how art might be defined:
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ุงู„ู‚ุจุนุฉ ุงู„ุงู…ุงู…ูŠุฉ .. ููŠ ุงู„ุจูˆุณุชุฑ .. ุชูˆุถุญ ูƒูŠู ูŠู…ูƒู† ุงู† ูŠุนุฑู ุงู„ูู†
14:07
as a thing itself, the worth of the thing, the shadow of the thing,
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ูƒุดูŠุก ู…ู†ูุฑุฏ .. ูŠุณุชุญู‚ ุงู„ุงู‡ุชู…ุงู… .. ุธู„ ุดูŠุก ุขุฎุฑ
14:11
and the shape of the thing.
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ูˆ ู…ู…ุซู„ุงู‹ ู„ุดูŠุก ู…ุง
14:13
Whatever."
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" ู…ู‡ู…ุง ูŠูƒู† "
14:15
(Applause)
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(ุชุตููŠู‚)
14:16
OK.
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ุญุณู†ุงู‹
14:17
(Applause)
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(ุชุตููŠู‚)
14:22
And the one that I did not submit,
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ุงู† ุงู„ุจูˆุณุชุฑ ุงู„ุฐูŠ ู„ู… ุฃู‚ู… ุจุชู‚ุฏูŠู…ู‡
14:25
which I still like,
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ูˆู„ูƒู†ูŠ ู…ุงุฒู„ุช ุงุญุจู‡
14:27
I wanted to use the same phrase.
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ูˆุงู†ุง ุงุฑูŠุฏ ุงู† ุงุณุชุฎุฏู… ู†ูุณ ุงู„ุนุจุงุฑุฉ
14:29
There were wonderful experiments by Bruno Munari
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ุงู„ุชูŠ ุญุฏุฏุช ุชู„ูƒ ุงู„ุชุฌุฑุจุฉ ุงู„ุฑุงุฆุนุฉ ู…ู† ู‚ุจู„ ุจุฑูˆู†ูˆ ู…ูˆู†ุงุฑูŠ
14:35
on letterforms some years ago --
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ุญูŠุซ ูˆุถุน ุงุญุฑู ู…ู†ุฐ ุนุฏุฉ ุณู†ูˆุงุช
14:37
sort of, see how far you could go and still be able to read them.
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ูˆูƒุงู† ูŠุฑูŠุฏ ู…ู† ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ุงู† ุชุจุชุนุฏ ูˆุชุญุงูˆู„ ู‚ุฑุขุชู‡ุง .. ุนู„ู‰ ุดุงูƒู„ุชู‡ุง ุงู„ุฌุฏูŠุฏุฉ ..
14:39
And that idea stuck in my head.
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ูˆู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ููƒุฑุฉ ุนู„ู‚ุช ููŠ ุฑุฃุณูŠ ..
14:41
But then I took the pieces that I had taken off and put them at the bottom.
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ูˆู„ูƒู† ู†ุธุฑุช ู…ุฑุฉ ุงุฎุฑู‰ ุงู„ู‰ ุงู„ู„ูˆุญุงุช ุงู„ุชูŠ ู‚ู…ุช ุจู‡ุง .. ูˆู…ู† ุซู… ุงุฎุฐุชู‡ุง .. ูˆูˆุถุนุชู‡ุง ููŠ ุงู„ุฃุณูู„
14:46
And, of course those are the remains, and they're so labeled.
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ูˆุญุชู…ุงู‹ ุชู„ูƒ ู‡ูŠ ุงู„ุจู‚ุงูŠุง .. ูƒู„ูˆุญุงุช ู…ู…ูŠุฒุฉ
14:51
But what really happens is that you read it as:
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ูˆู„ูƒู† ู…ุง ุญุฏุซ ู‡ูˆ ุงู† ุงู„ู„ูˆุญุฉ ูŠุฌุจ ุงู† ุชู‚ุฑุงู‹.. ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ู†ุญูˆ ุงู„ุชุงู„ูŠ
14:54
"Art is whatever remains."
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" ุงู„ูู† .. ู‡ูˆ ูƒู„ ู…ุง ุชุจู‚ู‰ "
14:57
Thank you.
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ุดูƒุฑุฃู‹
14:59
(Applause)
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(ุชุตููŠู‚)
ุญูˆู„ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ู…ูˆู‚ุน

ุณูŠู‚ุฏู… ู„ูƒ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ู…ูˆู‚ุน ู…ู‚ุงุทุน ููŠุฏูŠูˆ YouTube ุงู„ู…ููŠุฏุฉ ู„ุชุนู„ู… ุงู„ู„ุบุฉ ุงู„ุฅู†ุฌู„ูŠุฒูŠุฉ. ุณุชุฑู‰ ุฏุฑูˆุณ ุงู„ู„ุบุฉ ุงู„ุฅู†ุฌู„ูŠุฒูŠุฉ ุงู„ุชูŠ ูŠุชู… ุชุฏุฑูŠุณู‡ุง ู…ู† ู‚ุจู„ ู…ุฏุฑุณูŠู† ู…ู† ุงู„ุฏุฑุฌุฉ ุงู„ุฃูˆู„ู‰ ู…ู† ุฌู…ูŠุน ุฃู†ุญุงุก ุงู„ุนุงู„ู…. ุงู†ู‚ุฑ ู†ู‚ุฑู‹ุง ู…ุฒุฏูˆุฌู‹ุง ููˆู‚ ุงู„ุชุฑุฌู…ุฉ ุงู„ุฅู†ุฌู„ูŠุฒูŠุฉ ุงู„ู…ุนุฑูˆุถุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ูƒู„ ุตูุญุฉ ููŠุฏูŠูˆ ู„ุชุดุบูŠู„ ุงู„ููŠุฏูŠูˆ ู…ู† ู‡ู†ุงูƒ. ูŠุชู… ุชู…ุฑูŠุฑ ุงู„ุชุฑุฌู…ุงุช ุจุงู„ุชุฒุงู…ู† ู…ุน ุชุดุบูŠู„ ุงู„ููŠุฏูŠูˆ. ุฅุฐุง ูƒุงู† ู„ุฏูŠูƒ ุฃูŠ ุชุนู„ูŠู‚ุงุช ุฃูˆ ุทู„ุจุงุช ุŒ ูŠุฑุฌู‰ ุงู„ุงุชุตุงู„ ุจู†ุง ุจุงุณุชุฎุฏุงู… ู†ู…ูˆุฐุฌ ุงู„ุงุชุตุงู„ ู‡ุฐุง.

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