A Palestinian and an Israeli, Face to Face | Aziz Abu Sarah and Maoz Inon | TED

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ูŠุฑุฌู‰ ุงู„ู†ู‚ุฑ ู†ู‚ุฑู‹ุง ู…ุฒุฏูˆุฌู‹ุง ููˆู‚ ุงู„ุชุฑุฌู…ุฉ ุงู„ุฅู†ุฌู„ูŠุฒูŠุฉ ุฃุฏู†ุงู‡ ู„ุชุดุบูŠู„ ุงู„ููŠุฏูŠูˆ.

ุงู„ู…ุชุฑุฌู…: Rahaf Abu Sieni ุงู„ู…ุฏู‚ู‘ู‚: Mahmoud Mohamed Ahmed
ู…ุงูˆุฒ ุฅูŠู†ูˆู†: ูƒู…ุง ุชุนู„ู… ุนุฒูŠุฒุŒ
00:04
Maoz Inon: You know, Aziz,
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00:06
only four days ago,
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ู‚ุจู„ ุฃุฑุจุนุฉ ุฃูŠุงู…
00:08
last Thursday, we buried the remains of my parents.
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ุงู„ุฎู…ูŠุณ ุงู„ู…ุงุถูŠุŒ
ู‚ู…ู†ุง ุจุฏูู† ุฑูุงุช ูˆุงู„ุฏูŠู‘.
00:14
My mom was burned so badly, she could not be identified.
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ุฃูุตูŠุจุช ุฃู…ูŠ ุจุญุฑูˆู‚ ุดุฏูŠุฏุฉุŒ
ูˆู„ู… ุฃุณุชุทุน ุงู„ุชุนุฑู ุนู„ูŠู‡ุง.
00:20
I lost them on October 7.
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ู„ู‚ุฏ ูู‚ุฏุชู‡ู… ููŠ ุงู„ุณุงุจุน ู…ู† ุฃูƒุชูˆุจุฑ.
00:24
I lost so many of my childhood friends,
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ู„ู‚ุฏ ูู‚ุฏุช ุงู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ู† ุฃุตุฏู‚ุงุก ุทููˆู„ุชูŠุŒ
00:27
their parents, their children.
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ุฃู‡ุงู„ูŠู‡ู…
ูˆุฃุทูุงู„ู‡ู….
00:30
Many were kidnapped to Gaza.
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ุชู… ุงุฎุชุทุงู ุงู„ุนุฏูŠุฏ ู…ู†ู‡ู… ุฅู„ู‰ ุบุฒุฉ.
00:34
I was drowning in an ocean of sorrow and pain.
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ูƒู†ุช ุฃุบุฑู‚ ููŠ ู…ุญูŠุท ู…ู† ุงู„ุญุฒู† ูˆุงู„ุฃู„ู….
00:39
I was broken into pieces.
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ู„ู‚ุฏ ูƒู†ุชู ู…ุญุทู…ุงู‹
00:43
A few nights after losing them, I had a dream.
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ุจุนุฏ ุจุถุน ู„ูŠุงู„ ู…ู† ูู‚ุฏุงู†ู‡ู…ุŒ
ุฑุงูˆุฏู†ูŠ ุญู„ู….
00:48
I was sleeping at night, crying.
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ูƒู†ุช ุฃู†ุงู… ููŠ ุงู„ู„ูŠู„ ูˆุฃู†ุง ุฃุจูƒูŠ.
00:52
My entire body was in pain.
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ูƒุงู† ุฌุณุฏูŠ ูƒู„ู‡ ูŠุนุงู†ูŠ ู…ู† ุงู„ุฃู„ู….
00:55
And through my tears,
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ูˆู…ู† ุฎู„ุงู„ ุฏู…ูˆุนูŠุŒ
00:58
I could see everyone crying.
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ูŠู…ูƒู†ู†ูŠ ุฑุคูŠุฉ ุงู„ุฌู…ูŠุน ูŠุจูƒูˆู†.
01:01
The entire humanity was crying with me.
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ูƒุงู†ุช ุงู„ุจุดุฑูŠุฉ ูƒู„ู‡ุง ุชุจูƒูŠ ู…ุนูŠ.
01:05
Our tears went down on our faces
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ุงู†ู‡ู…ุฑุช ุฏู…ูˆุนู†ุง ุนู„ู‰ ูˆุฌูˆู‡ู†ุง
01:09
to our bodies.
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ุฅู„ู‰ ุฃุฌุณุงุฏู†ุง.
01:11
Our bodies were wounded, damaged from the war.
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ุฌูุฑุญุช ูˆุชุถุฑุฑุช ุฃุฌุณุงุฏู†ุง ู…ู† ุงู„ุญุฑุจ.
01:17
And then our tears washed our bodies and healed it,
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ุซู… ุบุณู„ุช ุฏู…ูˆุนู†ุง ุฃุฌุณุงุฏู†ุง ูˆุดูŽูุชู‡ุงุŒ
01:21
making it whole.
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ู…ู…ุง ุฌุนู„ู‡ุง ูƒุงู…ู„ุฉ.
01:25
Whole again.
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ูƒุงู…ู„ุฉ ู…ุฑุฉ ุฃุฎุฑู‰.
01:26
And then our tears went down to the ground.
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ุซู… ุฅู†ู‡ู…ุฑุช ุฏู…ูˆุนู†ุง ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุฃุฑุถ.
01:30
And the ground was red from blood.
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ูˆูƒุงู†ุช ุงู„ุฃุฑุถ ุญู…ุฑุงุก ุงู„ู„ูˆู† ู…ู† ุงู„ุฏู…ุงุก.
01:34
Our tears washed the blood from the ground,
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ุบุณู„ุช ุฏู…ูˆุนู†ุง ุงู„ุฏู…ุงุก ู…ู† ุงู„ุฃุฑุถุŒ
01:38
purifying the ground.
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ูˆุทู‡ู‘ุฑุช ุงู„ุฃุฑุถ.
01:41
And then the ground was beautiful and shining.
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ุซู… ุฃุตุจุญุช ุงู„ุฃุฑุถ ุฌู…ูŠู„ุฉ ูˆู…ุดุฑู‚ุฉ.
01:45
And on that ground, I could see the path.
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ูˆุนู„ู‰ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุฃุณุงุณุŒ ูƒุงู† ุจุฅู…ูƒุงู†ูŠ ุฑุคูŠุฉ ุงู„ู…ุณุงุฑ.
ุงู„ุทุฑูŠู‚ ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ุณู„ุงู….
01:48
The path to peace.
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ุงุณุชูŠู‚ุธุช ูˆุฃู†ุง ุฃุฑุชุฌู.
01:51
I woke up shaking.
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01:53
And immediately I knew that this is the path I must choose.
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ูˆุนุฑูุช ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ููˆุฑุŒ
ุฃู† ู‡ุฐุง ู‡ูˆ ุงู„ู…ุณุงุฑ ุงู„ุฐูŠ ูŠุฌุจ ุฃู† ุนู„ูŠูŽู‘ ุฃุฎุชูŠุงุฑู‡.
01:58
The path of not taking revenge.
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ุทุฑูŠู‚ ุนุฏู… ุงู„ุงู†ุชู‚ุงู….
02:02
The path of reconciliation.
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ู…ุณุงุฑ ุงู„ู…ุตุงู„ุญุฉ.
02:05
And you've been walking this path for decades.
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ูˆุฃู†ุช ุชุณูŠุฑ ููŠ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุทุฑูŠู‚ ู…ู†ุฐ ุนู‚ูˆุฏ.
02:08
We met only once before October 7,
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ุงู„ุชู‚ูŠู†ุง ู…ุฑุฉ ูˆุงุญุฏุฉ ูู‚ุท ู‚ุจู„ ุงู„ุณุงุจุน ู…ู† ุฃูƒุชูˆุจุฑุŒ
02:11
even that was for two minutes, maybe.
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ุญุชู‰ ู„ูˆ ูƒุงู† ุฐู„ูƒ ู„ู…ุฏุฉ ุฏู‚ูŠู‚ุชูŠู†ุŒ ุฑุจู…ุง.
02:15
But you were among the first ones to reach out,
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ู„ูƒู†ูƒ ูƒู†ุช ู…ู† ุจูŠู† ุฃูˆุงุฆู„ ู…ู† ุชูˆุงุตู„ูˆุง ู…ุนู†ุง
02:18
send your condolence, support.
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ูˆุฃุฑุณู„ุช ุชุนุงุฒูŠูƒุŒ ู…ุคุงุฒุฑุชูƒ.
02:23
And I will always love you
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ูˆุณุฃุญุจูƒ ุฏุงุฆู…ู‹ุง
02:25
for being there for me in my hardest time.
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ู„ูˆุฌูˆุฏูƒ ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ู…ู† ุฃุฌู„ูŠ ููŠ ุฃุตุนุจ ุฃูˆู‚ุงุชูŠ.
02:30
Aziz Abu Sarah: Now Maoz when I sent you that message to offer my condolences
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ุนุฒูŠุฒ ุฃุจูˆ ุณุงุฑุฉ: ุงู„ุขู† ู…ุงูˆุฒ ุนู†ุฏู…ุง ุฃุฑุณู„ุช ู„ูƒ ุชู„ูƒ ุงู„ุฑุณุงู„ุฉ
ู„ุชู‚ุฏูŠู… ุงู„ุชุนุงุฒูŠ ุจุนุฏ ู…ู‚ุชู„ ูˆุงู„ุฏูŠูƒุŒ
02:35
after your parents were killed,
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02:38
I was surprised by your answer.
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ููˆุฌุฆุช ุจุฅุฌุงุจุชูƒ.
02:39
Not just to me, but your public answer.
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ู„ูŠุณ ูู‚ุท ุจุงู„ู†ุณุจุฉ ู„ูŠุŒ ูˆู„ูƒู† ุฅุฌุงุจุชูƒ ุงู„ุนุงู…ุฉ.
02:43
Because you said you're not only crying for your parents,
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ู„ุฃู†ูƒ ู‚ู„ุช ุฅู†ูƒ ู„ุง ุชุจูƒูŠ ุนู„ู‰ ูˆุงู„ุฏูŠูƒ ูุญุณุจุŒ
02:46
you're also crying for the people in Gaza who are losing their lives,
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ุจู„ ุชุจูƒูŠ ุฃูŠุถู‹ุง ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ููŠ ุบุฒุฉ ุงู„ุฐูŠู† ูŠูู‚ุฏูˆู† ุญูŠุงุชู‡ู…ุŒ
02:51
and that you do not want what happened to you
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ูˆุฃู†ูƒ ู„ุง ุชุฑูŠุฏ ุฃู† ูŠูƒูˆู† ู…ุง ุญุฏุซ ู„ูƒ
02:53
to be justifying anyone taking revenge.
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ู…ุจุฑุฑู‹ุง ู„ุฃูŠ ุดุฎุต ู„ู„ุฅู†ุชู‚ุงู….
02:56
You do not want to justify war.
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ุฃู†ุช ู„ุง ุชุฑูŠุฏ ุชุจุฑูŠุฑ ุงู„ุญุฑุจ.
02:58
And it's so hard to do that.
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ูˆู…ู† ุงู„ุตุนุจ ุฌุฏู‹ุง ุงู„ู‚ูŠุงู… ุจุฐู„ูƒ.
03:01
So much easier to want revenge, to be angry.
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ู…ู† ุงู„ุฃุณู‡ู„ ุจูƒุซูŠุฑ ุฃู† ุชุฑุบุจ ููŠ ุงู„ุงู†ุชู‚ุงู… ูˆุฃู† ุชุบุถุจ.
03:05
But you are a brave man.
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ู„ูƒู†ูƒ ุฑุฌู„ ุดุฌุงุน.
03:08
I needed much more time
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ูƒู†ุช ุจุญุงุฌุฉ ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ู…ุฒูŠุฏ ู…ู† ุงู„ูˆู‚ุช
03:10
when my brother Tayseer, who was 19 years old,
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ุนู†ุฏู…ุง ู‚ูุชู„ ุฃุฎูŠ ุชูŠุณูŠุฑุŒ ุงู„ุฐูŠ ูƒุงู† ูŠุจู„ุบ ู…ู† ุงู„ุนู…ุฑ 19 ุนุงู…ู‹ุงุŒ
03:13
was killed by Israeli soldiers.
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ุนู„ู‰ ูŠุฏ ุงู„ุฌู†ูˆุฏ ุงู„ุฅุณุฑุงุฆูŠู„ูŠูŠู†.
03:16
I was angry, I was bitter, and I wanted vengeance.
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ูƒู†ุช ุบุงุถุจู‹ุงุŒ
ูˆุญุงู†ู‚ุงู‹ุŒ
ูˆุฃุฑุฏุช ุงู„ุงู†ุชู‚ุงู….
03:20
I was 10 years old and I thought, there is no other choice.
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ูƒู†ุช ููŠ ุงู„ุนุงุดุฑุฉ ู…ู† ุนู…ุฑูŠ
ูˆุธู†ู†ุช ุฃู†ู‡ ู„ุง ูŠูˆุฌุฏ ุฎูŠุงุฑ ุขุฎุฑ.
03:26
And only eight years later,
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ูˆุจุนุฏ ุซู…ุงู†ูŠ ุณู†ูˆุงุช ูู‚ุทุŒ
03:27
when I went to study Hebrew with Jewish immigrants to Israel,
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ุนู†ุฏู…ุง ุฐู‡ุจุช ู„ุฏุฑุงุณุฉ ุงู„ู„ุบุฉ ุงู„ุนุจุฑูŠุฉ
ู…ุน ุงู„ู…ู‡ุงุฌุฑูŠู† ุงู„ูŠู‡ูˆุฏ ุฅู„ู‰ ุฅุณุฑุงุฆูŠู„ุŒ
03:32
that's only when I realized that we can be allies.
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ุฃุฏุฑูƒุช ูู‚ุท ุฃู†ู‡ ูŠู…ูƒู†ู†ุง ุฃู† ู†ูƒูˆู† ุญู„ูุงุก.
03:35
We can be partners.
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ูŠู…ูƒู†ู†ุง ุฃู† ู†ูƒูˆู† ุดุฑูƒุงุกุŒ
03:36
And I realized that I do have a choice, regardless of what other people do,
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ูˆุฃุฏุฑูƒุชูุŒ ุฃู† ู„ุฏูŠ ุฎูŠุงุฑู‹ุงุŒ ุจุบุถ ุงู„ู†ุธุฑ ุนู…ุง ูŠูุนู„ู‡ ุงู„ุขุฎุฑูˆู†ุŒ
03:42
the choice is always mine.
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ูุงู„ุฎูŠุงุฑ ุฏุงุฆู…ู‹ุง ู…ุง ูŠูƒูˆู† ู„ูŠ.
03:44
And I do not want to take revenge.
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ูˆุฃู†ุง ู„ุง ุฃุฑูŠุฏ ุงู„ุงู†ุชู‚ุงู….
03:46
That when I choose to be angry and hateful
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ุนู†ุฏู…ุง ุฃุฎุชุงุฑ ุฃู† ุฃูƒูˆู† ุบุงุถุจู‹ุง ูˆุจุบูŠุถู‹ุงุŒ
03:50
I'm being a slave to the person who killed my brother.
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ูุฃู†ุง ุฃูƒูˆู† ุนุจุฏู‹ุง ู„ู„ุดุฎุต ุงู„ุฐูŠ ู‚ุชู„ ุฃุฎูŠ.
03:54
These last few months [have] been like a nightmare that never ends.
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ูƒุงู†ุช ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุฃุดู‡ุฑ ุงู„ู‚ู„ูŠู„ุฉ ุงู„ู…ุงุถูŠุฉุŒ
ุจู…ุซุงุจุฉ ูƒุงุจูˆุณ ู„ุง ูŠู†ุชู‡ูŠ ุฃุจุฏู‹ุง.
03:59
Everyone I know in Gaza have lost family members.
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ูƒู„ ุดุฎุต ุฃุนุฑูู‡ ููŠ ุบุฒุฉ ููŽู‚ูŽุฏูŽ ุฃูุฑุงุฏุงู‹ ู…ู† ุนุงุฆู„ุชู‡.
04:03
My friend Abdelrahim,
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ุตุฏูŠู‚ูŠ ุนุจุฏ ุงู„ุฑุญูŠู…ุŒ
04:07
he lost 50 people in his family.
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ูู‚ุฏ 50 ูุฑุฏู‹ุง ู…ู† ุนุงุฆู„ุชู‡.
04:11
In this photo you can see, all these kids have been killed.
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ููŠ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุตูˆุฑุฉ ูŠู…ูƒู†ูƒ ุฃู† ุชุฑู‰ุŒ ูƒู„ ู‡ุคู„ุงุก ุงู„ุฃุทูุงู„ ู‚ุฏ ู‚ุชู„ูˆุง.
04:14
And in the upper middle photo,
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ูˆููŠ ุงู„ุตูˆุฑุฉ ุงู„ูˆุณุทู‰ ุงู„ุนู„ูŠุงุŒ
04:17
the father of these kids was in Israel
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ูƒุงู† ูˆุงู„ุฏ ู‡ุคู„ุงุก ุงู„ุฃุทูุงู„ ููŠ ุฅุณุฑุงุฆูŠู„
04:19
when they were killed.
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ุนู†ุฏู…ุง ู‚ูุชู„ูˆุง.
04:21
And ...
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ูˆ ...
04:23
He wanted to come back to see his kids one last time.
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ุฃุฑุงุฏ ุงู„ุนูˆุฏุฉ ู„ุฑุคูŠุฉ ุฃุทูุงู„ู‡ ู„ู„ู…ุฑุฉ ุงู„ุฃุฎูŠุฑุฉ.
04:26
He couldn't.
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ู„ู… ูŠุณุชุทุน.
04:28
He ended up back to Gaza,
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ุงู†ุชู‡ู‰ ุจู‡ ุงู„ุฃู…ุฑ ุจุงู„ุนูˆุฏุฉ ุฅู„ู‰ ุบุฒุฉุŒ
04:29
but never was able to make it to his house.
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ู„ูƒู†ู‡ ู„ู… ูŠุชู…ูƒู† ุฃุจุฏู‹ุง ู…ู† ุงู„ูˆุตูˆู„ ุฅู„ู‰ ู…ู†ุฒู„ู‡.
04:32
Whatโ€™s amazing, though, is Abdelrahim is just like you.
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ู„ูƒู† ุงู„ู…ุฏู‡ุด ู‡ูˆ ุฃู† ุนุจุฏ ุงู„ุฑุญูŠู… ู…ุซู„ูƒ ุชู…ุงู…ู‹ุง.
04:35
I talked to him yesterday, and he said,
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ุชุญุฏุซุช ู…ุนู‡ ุจุงู„ุฃู…ุณุŒ ูˆู‚ุงู„:
04:37
"I'm still as committed to peace as I was before.
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โ€œู…ุง ุฒู„ุช ู…ู„ุชุฒู…ู‹ุง ุจุงู„ุณู„ุงู… ูƒู…ุง ูƒู†ุช ู…ู† ู‚ุจู„.
04:41
I do not want my story to lead to hate."
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ู„ุง ุฃุฑูŠุฏ ุฃู† ุชุคุฏูŠ ู‚ุตุชูŠ ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ูƒุฑุงู‡ูŠุฉ.โ€
04:44
And even now, as his parents are in northern Gaza,
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ูˆุญุชู‰ ุงู„ุขู†ุŒ ุจู…ุง ุฃู† ูˆุงู„ุฏูŠู‡ ููŠ ุดู…ุงู„ ุบุฒุฉุŒ
04:47
unable to get food, unable to leave,
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ุบูŠุฑ ู‚ุงุฏุฑูŠู† ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุญุตูˆู„ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุทุนุงู… ุฃูˆ ุงู„ู…ุบุงุฏุฑุฉ.
04:50
he's still committed to this message.
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ู„ุง ูŠุฒุงู„ ู…ู„ุชุฒู…ู‹ุง ุจู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุฑุณุงู„ุฉ.
04:52
And it makes me wonder,
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ูˆู‡ุฐุง ูŠุฌุนู„ู†ูŠ ุฃุชุณุงุกู„ุŒ
04:53
how do you make such a choice in the midst of so much tragedy?
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ูƒูŠู ูŠู…ูƒู†ูƒ ุงุชุฎุงุฐ ู…ุซู„ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุงุฎุชูŠุงุฑ ูˆุณุท ุงู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ู† ุงู„ู…ุขุณูŠุŸ
04:58
MI: You know, I've been interviewed like 100 times in the recent months,
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ู…ุงูˆุฒ ุฅูŠู†ูˆู†: ูƒู…ุง ุชุนู„ู…ุŒ ู„ู‚ุฏ ุชู…ุช ู…ู‚ุงุจู„ุชูŠ ุญูˆุงู„ูŠ 100 ู…ุฑุฉ ููŠ ุงู„ุฃุดู‡ุฑ ุงู„ุฃุฎูŠุฑุฉุŒ
05:02
and this is the most easiest question.
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ูˆู‡ุฐุง ู‡ูˆ ุงู„ุณุคุงู„ ุงู„ุฃุณู‡ู„.
05:06
It's for my parents.
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ุฅู†ู‡ ู…ู† ุฃุฌู„ ูˆุงู„ุฏูŠูŽู‘.
05:08
It's my parents' legacy.
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ุฅู†ู‡ ุฅุฑุซ ูˆุงู„ุฏูŠู‘.
05:10
And when we put their remains in the ground,
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ูˆุนู†ุฏู…ุง ุฏูู†ุง ุจู‚ุงูŠุงู‡ู… ููŠ ุงู„ุฃุฑุถุŒ
05:13
I realized that they prepared me for that moment.
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ุฃุฏุฑูƒุช ุฃู†ู‡ู… ุฃุนุฏูˆู†ูŠ ู„ุชู„ูƒ ุงู„ู„ุญุธุฉ.
05:18
They taught me what to say
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ู„ู‚ุฏ ุนู„ู…ูˆู†ูŠ ู…ุงุฐุง ุฃู‚ูˆู„
05:19
and how to act after they will be killed.
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ูˆูƒูŠู ุฃุชุตุฑู ุจุนุฏ ุฃู† ูŠุชู… ู‚ุชู„ู‡ู….
05:23
I was born in a kibbutz,
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ู„ู‚ุฏ ูˆู„ุฏุช ููŠ ูƒูŠุจูˆุชุณุŒ
05:24
just a kilometer and a half from the border with Gaza,
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ุนู„ู‰ ุจุนุฏ ูƒูŠู„ูˆู…ุชุฑ ูˆู†ุตู ูู‚ุท ู…ู† ุงู„ุญุฏูˆุฏ ู…ุน ุบุฒุฉุŒ
ุฃุณุณู‡ ุฃุฌุฏุงุฏูŠ.
05:29
that was established by my grandparents.
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05:31
They were both Zionist pioneers,
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ูƒู„ุงู‡ู…ุง ู…ู† ุงู„ุฑูˆุงุฏ ุงู„ุตู‡ูŠูˆู†ูŠูŠู†ุŒ
05:33
immigrated to Palestine
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ู‡ุงุฌุฑูˆุง ุฅู„ู‰ ูู„ุณุทูŠู†
05:35
under the British Mandate about a century ago.
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ุชุญุช ุงู„ุงู†ุชุฏุงุจ ุงู„ุจุฑูŠุทุงู†ูŠ ู…ู†ุฐ ุญูˆุงู„ูŠ ู‚ุฑู†.
05:38
And my father was also born in this kibbutz,
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ูˆูˆุงู„ุฏูŠ ูˆู„ุฏ ุฃูŠุถู‹ุง ููŠ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ูƒูŠุจูˆุชุณุŒ
05:41
and my father was a farmer.
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ูˆูƒุงู† ูˆุงู„ุฏูŠ ู…ุฒุงุฑุนู‹ุง.
05:44
It's very, very difficult to be a farmer,
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ู…ู† ุงู„ุตุนุจ ุฌุฏู‹ุง ุฃู† ุชูƒูˆู† ู…ุฒุงุฑุนู‹ุงุŒ
05:47
even more difficult to be in the tourism industry.
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ุจู„ ู…ู† ุงู„ุตุนุจ ุฌุฏู‹ุง ุฃู† ุชูƒูˆู† ููŠ ุตู†ุงุนุฉ ุงู„ุณูŠุงุญุฉ.
05:51
And one year, I remember that one year there was a drought.
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ูˆููŠ ุฅุญุฏู‰ ุงู„ุณู†ูˆุงุชุŒ ุฃุชุฐูƒุฑ ุฐู„ูƒ ุงู„ุนุงู… ูƒุงู† ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุฌูุงู.
05:55
And then the second, there was a flood.
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ุซู… ููŠ ุงู„ุณู†ุฉ ุงู„ุซุงู†ูŠุฉุŒ ูƒุงู† ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ููŠุถุงู†.
05:58
And the third, there were insects.
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ูˆุงู„ุซุงู„ุซุฉุŒ ูƒุงู†ุช ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุญุดุฑุงุช.
06:01
And at the end of each of those devastating seasons,
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ูˆููŠ ู†ู‡ุงูŠุฉ ูƒู„ ูุตู„ ู…ู† ุชู„ูƒ ุงู„ู…ูˆุงุณู… ุงู„ู…ุฏู…ุฑุฉุŒ
06:03
my father will always tell me,
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ุณูŠู‚ูˆู„ ู„ูŠ ูˆุงู„ุฏูŠ ุฏุงุฆู…ู‹ุงุŒ
06:05
"Maoz, next year I'm going to sow again.
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โ€œู…ุงูˆุฒุŒ ููŠ ุงู„ุนุงู… ุงู„ู…ู‚ุจู„ ุณุฃุฒุฑุน ู…ุฑุฉ ุฃุฎุฑู‰.
06:09
Because next year is going to be a better year."
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ู„ุฃู† ุงู„ุนุงู… ุงู„ู…ู‚ุจู„ ุณูŠูƒูˆู† ุนุงู…ู‹ุง ุฃูุถู„.โ€
06:12
And my mom was a very talented mandalas painter.
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ูˆูƒุงู†ุช ุฃู…ูŠ ุฑุณุงู…ุฉ ู…ุงู†ุฏุงู„ุง ู…ูˆู‡ูˆุจุฉ ู„ู„ุบุงูŠุฉ.
06:17
She painted thousands of mandala.
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ุฑุณู…ุช ุงู„ุขู„ุงู ู…ู† ู…ุงู†ุฏุงู„ุง.
06:20
And from all the mandalas she painted, she gave me only one as a present.
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ูˆู…ู† ุจูŠู† ุฌู…ูŠุน ุงู„ู…ู†ุฏุงู„ุงุช ุงู„ุชูŠ ุฑุณู…ุชู‡ุงุŒ
ุฃุนุทุชู†ูŠ ูˆุงุญุฏุฉ ูู‚ุท ูƒู‡ุฏูŠุฉ.
06:24
This is the one she gave me.
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ู‡ุฐุง ู‡ูˆ ุงู„ุฐูŠ ุฃุนุทุชู‡ ู„ูŠ.
06:27
And on this mandala, this is for you,
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ูˆุนู„ู‰ ู‡ุฐุง ู…ุงู†ุฏุงู„ุงุŒ ู‡ุฐุง ู„ูƒุŒ
06:30
I made it for you.
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ุตู†ุนุชู‡ ู„ูƒ.
06:31
And on the mandala she gave me, she wrote,
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ูˆูƒุชุจุช ุนู„ู‰ ู…ุงู†ุฏุงู„ุง ุงู„ุชูŠ ุฃุนุทุชู‡ุง ู„ูŠุŒ
06:34
"We can achieve all our dreams if we'll be brave enough to chase them."
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โ€œูŠู…ูƒู†ู†ุง ุชุญู‚ูŠู‚ ูƒู„ ุฃุญู„ุงู…ู†ุงุŒ
ุฅุฐุง ุชุญู„ูŠู†ุง ุจุงู„ุดุฌุงุนุฉ ุงู„ูƒุงููŠุฉ ู„ู…ุทุงุฑุฏุชู‡ุง.ยป
06:41
And in the last 20 years I've been chasing and fulfilling many dreams.
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ูˆููŠ ุงู„ุนุดุฑูŠู† ุนุงู…ู‹ุง ุงู„ู…ุงุถูŠุฉ ูƒู†ุช ุฃุทุงุฑุฏ ูˆุฃุญู‚ู‚ ุงู„ุนุฏูŠุฏ ู…ู† ุงู„ุฃุญู„ุงู….
06:46
I opened the first guest house ever in the old city of Nazareth,
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ุงูุชุชุญุช ุฃูˆู„ ุจูŠุช ุถูŠุงูุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุฅุทู„ุงู‚ ููŠ ู…ุฏูŠู†ุฉ ุงู„ู†ุงุตุฑุฉ ุงู„ู‚ุฏูŠู…ุฉุŒ
06:49
the Fauzi Azar.
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ููˆุฒูŠ ุนุฒุงุฑ.
06:51
I was cofounding the Jesus Trail,
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ูƒู†ุช ุฃุดุงุฑูƒ ููŠ ุชุฃุณูŠุณ ู…ุณุงุฑ ูŠูˆุณุน
06:53
Abraham Hostel and tours and many other dreams.
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ูˆู†ุฒู„ ุฃุจุฑุงู‡ุงู… ูˆุงู„ุฌูˆู„ุงุช ูˆุงู„ุนุฏูŠุฏ ู…ู† ุงู„ุฃุญู„ุงู… ุงู„ุฃุฎุฑู‰.
06:56
And in all those dreams, I was following five steps.
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ูˆููŠ ูƒู„ ุชู„ูƒ ุงู„ุฃุญู„ุงู…ุŒ ูƒู†ุช ุฃุชุจุน ุฎู…ุณ ุฎุทูˆุงุช.
07:01
Dreaming,
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ุฃุซู†ุงุก ุงู„ุญู„ู…ุŒ
07:03
many of us forgot or [aren't] brave enough to dream.
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ู†ุณูŠ ุงู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ู†ุง ุฃูˆ ู„ู… ูŠูƒู† ุดุฌุงุนู‹ุง ุจู…ุง ูŠูƒููŠ ู„ู„ุญู„ู….
07:07
Creating a partnership and a coalition with as many stakeholders as possible.
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ุฅู†ุดุงุก ุดุฑุงูƒุฉ ูˆุชุญุงู„ู ู…ุน ุฃูƒุจุฑ ุนุฏุฏ ู…ู…ูƒู† ู…ู† ุฃุตุญุงุจ ุงู„ู…ุตุงู„ุญ.
07:14
Reaching shared value and common ground
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ุงู„ูˆุตูˆู„ ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ู‚ูŠู…ุฉ ุงู„ู…ุดุชุฑูƒุฉ ูˆุงู„ุฃุฑุถูŠุฉ ุงู„ู…ุดุชุฑูƒุฉ
07:17
between the partnership.
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ุจูŠู† ุงู„ุดุฑุงูƒุฉ.
07:19
Writing a very detailed road map
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ูƒุชุงุจุฉ ุฎุงุฑุทุฉ ุทุฑูŠู‚ ู…ูุตู„ุฉ ู„ู„ุบุงูŠุฉ
07:22
and executing.
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ูˆุชู†ููŠุฐู‡ุง.
ูˆุฃุนุชู‚ุฏ ุฃู† ู‡ุฐุง ู‡ูˆ ุจุงู„ุถุจุท ู…ุง ู†ุญุชุงุฌ ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ู‚ูŠุงู… ุจู‡ ุงู„ุขู†
07:25
And I believe this is exactly what we need to do now
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07:28
in order to make our dream into a reality.
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ู…ู† ุฃุฌู„ ุชุญูˆูŠู„ ุญู„ู…ู†ุง ุฅู„ู‰ ุญู‚ูŠู‚ุฉ.
07:33
And I was partnering with Palestinians, with Israeli,
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ูˆูƒู†ุช ููŠ ุดุฑุงูƒุฉ ู…ุน ุงู„ูู„ุณุทูŠู†ูŠูŠู† ูˆุงู„ุฅุณุฑุงุฆูŠู„ูŠูŠู†
07:37
with Jordanian, with Egyptian.
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ูˆุงู„ุฃุฑุฏู†ูŠูŠู† ูˆุงู„ู…ุตุฑูŠูŠู†.
07:40
And I learned that the first step in reaching a shared society
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ูˆุชุนู„ู…ุช ุฃู† ุงู„ุฎุทูˆุฉ ุงู„ุฃูˆู„ู‰
ููŠ ุงู„ูˆุตูˆู„ ุฅู„ู‰ ู…ุฌุชู…ุน ู…ุดุชุฑูƒุŒ ูˆู…ุณุชู‚ุจู„ ู…ุดุชุฑูƒ
07:44
and a shared future is knowing the other side's narrative.
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ู‡ูŠ ู…ุนุฑูุฉ ุฑูˆุงูŠุฉ ุงู„ุฌุงู†ุจ ุงู„ุขุฎุฑ.
07:49
And following your work for many years,
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ูˆุจุนุฏ ู…ุชุงุจุนุฉ ุนู…ู„ูƒ ู„ุณู†ูˆุงุช ุนุฏูŠุฏุฉุŒ
07:51
even though we met only once,
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ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุฑุบู… ู…ู† ุฃู†ู†ุง ุงู„ุชู‚ูŠู†ุง ู…ุฑุฉ ูˆุงุญุฏุฉ ูู‚ุทุŒ
07:54
I think there is no one in the world that knows better
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ุฃุนุชู‚ุฏ ุฃู†ู‡ ู„ุง ูŠูˆุฌุฏ ุฃุญุฏ ููŠ ุงู„ุนุงู„ู… ูŠุนุฑู ุจุดูƒู„ ุฃูุถู„
07:57
how we can take our divided narratives
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ูƒูŠู ูŠู…ูƒู†ู†ุง ุฃุฎุฐ ุฑูˆุงูŠุงุชู†ุง ุงู„ู…ู†ู‚ุณู…ุฉุŒ
08:00
and make them into a shared future and a shared society.
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ูˆุชุญูˆูŠู„ู‡ุง ุฅู„ู‰ ู…ุณุชู‚ุจู„ ู…ุดุชุฑูƒ ูˆู…ุฌุชู…ุน ู…ุดุชุฑูƒ.
08:05
So thank you for all that you've done so far.
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ู„ุฐุง ุฃุดูƒุฑูƒ ุนู„ู‰ ูƒู„ ู…ุง ู‚ู…ุช ุจู‡ ุญุชู‰ ุงู„ุขู†.ุญู‚ุงุŒ ุฅู†ู‡ ู„ุฃู…ุฑ ู…ุฏู‡ุด.
08:07
Really, it's amazing.
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08:09
AAS: Now Maoz, I worked in 70 countries in peace and conflict.
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ุนุฒูŠุฒ ุฃุจูˆ ุณุงุฑุฉ: ุงู„ุขู† ู…ุงูˆุฒุŒ ุนู…ู„ุช ููŠ 70 ุฏูˆู„ุฉ ููŠ ุณู„ุงู… ูˆุตุฑุงุนุงุช.
08:13
And everywhere I worked,
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ูˆููŠ ูƒู„ ู…ูƒุงู† ุนู…ู„ุช ููŠู‡ุŒ
08:15
I found that we share the same problems.
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ูˆุฌุฏุช ุฃู†ู†ุง ู†ุชุดุงุฑูƒ ู†ูุณ ุงู„ู…ุดุงูƒู„.
08:17
The cause of conflicts are the same.
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ุณุจุจ ุงู„ู†ุฒุงุนุงุช ู‡ูˆ ู†ูุณู‡.
08:19
It's lack of recognition,
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ุฅู†ู‡ ุนุฏู… ุงู„ุงุนุชุฑุงู
08:20
not willing to understand each otherโ€™s historical narrative
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ูˆุนุฏู… ุงู„ุฑุบุจุฉ ููŠ ูู‡ู… ุงู„ุณุฑุฏ ุงู„ุชุงุฑูŠุฎูŠ ู„ุจุนุถู†ุง ุงู„ุจุนุถ
08:23
and not having a shared vision for our future.
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ูˆุนุฏู… ูˆุฌูˆุฏ ุฑุคูŠุฉ ู…ุดุชุฑูƒุฉ ู„ู…ุณุชู‚ุจู„ู†ุง.
08:27
And not doing those things is a fatal mistake.
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ูˆุนุฏู… ุงู„ู‚ูŠุงู… ุจู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุฃุดูŠุงุก ุฎุทุฃ ูุงุฏุญ.
08:30
We live next to each other, and yet we are so divided.
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ู†ุญู† ู†ุนูŠุด ุจุฌุงู†ุจ ุจุนุถู†ุง ุงู„ุจุนุถุŒ ูˆู…ุน ุฐู„ูƒ ู†ุญู† ู…ู†ู‚ุณู…ูˆู† ู„ู„ุบุงูŠุฉ.
08:34
We cannot talk, we cannot meet, we cannot have a conversation.
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ู„ุง ูŠู…ูƒู†ู†ุง ุงู„ุชุญุฏุซุŒ ู„ุง ูŠู…ูƒู†ู†ุง ุฃู† ู†ู„ุชู‚ูŠุŒ ู„ุง ูŠู…ูƒู†ู†ุง ุฅุฌุฑุงุก ู…ุญุงุฏุซุฉ.
08:38
There are roadblocks, checkpoints, there are walls that divide us
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ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุญูˆุงุฌุฒ ุทุฑู‚ ูˆู†ู‚ุงุท ุชูุชูŠุด ูˆุฌุฏุฑุงู† ุชูุฑู‚ ุจูŠู†ู†ุง
08:41
or societal pressure that makes us not being able to talk to each other.
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ุฃูˆ ุถุบูˆุท ู…ุฌุชู…ุนูŠุฉ ุชุฌุนู„ู†ุง ุบูŠุฑ ู‚ุงุฏุฑูŠู† ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุชุญุฏุซ ู…ุน ุจุนุถู†ุง ุงู„ุจุนุถ.
08:47
And I know this because my dad's first time ever going to a synagogue
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ูˆุฃู†ุง ุฃุนู„ู… ู‡ุฐุง ู„ุฃู† ุงู„ู…ุฑุฉ ุงู„ุฃูˆู„ู‰ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุฐู‡ุจ ููŠู‡ุง ูˆุงู„ุฏูŠ ุฅู„ู‰ ูƒู†ูŠุณ ูŠู‡ูˆุฏูŠ
08:51
was in the United States when he came to visit me.
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ูƒุงู†ุช ููŠ ุงู„ูˆู„ุงูŠุงุช ุงู„ู…ุชุญุฏุฉ ุนู†ุฏู…ุง ุฌุงุก ู„ุฒูŠุงุฑุชูŠ.
08:54
He went to a Friday prayer,
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ุฐู‡ุจ ุฅู„ู‰ ุตู„ุงุฉ ุงู„ุฌู…ุนุฉุŒ
08:56
but the mosque was too full
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ู„ูƒู† ุงู„ู…ุณุฌุฏ ูƒุงู† ู…ู…ุชู„ุฆู‹ุง ุฌุฏู‹ุง
08:57
and the Muslim community rented a synagogue.
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ูˆุงุณุชุฃุฌุฑ ุงู„ู…ุฌุชู…ุน ุงู„ุฅุณู„ุงู…ูŠ ูƒู†ูŠุณู‹ุง ูŠู‡ูˆุฏูŠู‹ุง.
09:00
So he ended up praying in a synagogue.
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ู„ุฐู„ูƒ ุงู†ุชู‡ู‰ ุจู‡ ุงู„ุฃู…ุฑ ุจุงู„ุตู„ุงุฉ ููŠ ูƒู†ูŠุณ.
09:02
(Laughter)
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(ุถุญูƒ)
09:03
And he came back and told me, and he was so excited about it.
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ุนุงุฏ ูˆุฃุฎุจุฑู†ูŠุŒ ูˆูƒุงู† ู…ุชุญู…ุณู‹ุง ุฌุฏู‹ุง ู„ุฐู„ูƒ.
09:07
And I thought, Jerusalem is full of synagogues.
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ูˆููƒุฑุช ุฃู† ุงู„ู‚ุฏุณ ู…ู„ูŠุฆุฉ ุจุงู„ู…ุนุงุจุฏ ุงู„ูŠู‡ูˆุฏูŠุฉ.
09:10
And yet his first time ever being in a synagogue is in the States.
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ูˆู…ุน ุฐู„ูƒุŒ ูุฅู† ุฃูˆู„ ู…ุฑุฉ ูŠุชูˆุงุฌุฏ ููŠู‡ุง ููŠ ูƒู†ูŠุณ ูŠู‡ูˆุฏูŠ ูƒุงู†ุช ููŠ ุงู„ูˆู„ุงูŠุงุช ุงู„ู…ุชุญุฏุฉ.
09:14
That's how divided we are,
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ู‡ุฐุง ู‡ูˆ ู…ุฏู‰ ุงู†ู‚ุณุงู…ู†ุงุŒ
ูˆู‚ู„ุฉ ู…ุง ู†ุนุฑูู‡ ุนู† ุจุนุถู†ุง ุงู„ุจุนุถ.
09:16
how little we know about each other.
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09:18
But we also must learn to ask hard questions,
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ูˆู„ูƒู† ูŠุฌุจ ุนู„ูŠู†ุง ุฃูŠุถู‹ุง ุฃู† ู†ุชุนู„ู… ุทุฑุญ ุงู„ุฃุณุฆู„ุฉ ุงู„ุตุนุจุฉุŒ
09:21
be honest and willing to listen.
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ูˆุฃู† ู†ูƒูˆู† ุตุงุฏู‚ูŠู† ูˆู…ุณุชุนุฏูŠู† ู„ู„ุงุณุชู…ุงุน.
09:24
My dadโ€™s first time to a peace meeting was one that I organized.
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ูƒุงู†ุช ุงู„ู…ุฑุฉ ุงู„ุฃูˆู„ู‰ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุญุถุฑ ููŠู‡ุง ูˆุงู„ุฏูŠ ุงุฌุชู…ุงุน ุงู„ุณู„ุงู… ู‡ูŠ ุชู„ูƒ ุงู„ุชูŠ ู†ุธู…ุชู‡ุง.
09:28
And when he came, he asked a question that I thought, oh my goodness,
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ูˆุนู†ุฏู…ุง ุฌุงุกุŒ ุทุฑุญ ุณุคุงู„ุงู‹ ููƒุฑุช ููŠู‡ุŒ ูŠุง ุฅู„ู‡ูŠุŒ
09:31
how could you do that?
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ูƒูŠู ูŠู…ูƒู†ูƒ ูุนู„ ุฐู„ูƒุŸ
09:33
He said, "Did the Holocaust happen?"
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ู‚ุงู„: โ€œู‡ู„ ุญุฏุซุช ุงู„ู…ุญุฑู‚ุฉุŸโ€
09:37
And just like the gasps we hear here,
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ูˆู…ุซู„ ุงู„ุตูŠุญุงุช ุงู„ุชูŠ ู†ุณู…ุนู‡ุง ู‡ู†ุงุŒ
09:39
everybody in the meeting was terrified.
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ุดุนุฑ ุงู„ุฌู…ูŠุน ููŠ ุงู„ุงุฌุชู…ุงุน ุจุงู„ุฑุนุจ.
09:42
I thought, I'm going to lose my job for my dad asking the question
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ุงุนุชู‚ุฏุช ุฃู†ู†ูŠ ุณุฃูู‚ุฏ ูˆุธูŠูุชูŠ ุจุณุจุจ ุทุฑุญ ูˆุงู„ุฏูŠ ุงู„ุณุคุงู„
09:45
and regretted inviting him to the peace meeting.
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ูˆู†ุฏู…ุช ุนู„ู‰ ุฏุนูˆุชู‡ ุฅู„ู‰ ุงุฌุชู…ุงุน ุงู„ุณู„ุงู….
09:48
(Laughter)
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(ุถุญูƒ)
09:49
But you know what?
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ูˆู„ูƒู† ู‡ู„ ุชุนุฑู ู…ุงุฐุงุŸ
09:51
Because of that question,
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ุจุณุจุจ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุณุคุงู„ุŒ
09:54
one of the Holocaust survivors in the meeting,
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ู‚ุงู… ุฃุญุฏ ุงู„ู†ุงุฌูŠู† ู…ู† ุงู„ู‡ูˆู„ูˆูƒูˆุณุช ููŠ ุงู„ุงุฌุชู…ุงุนุŒ
09:57
he took my dad and 70 other Palestinians to the Holocaust memorial.
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ุจุงุตุทุญุงุจ ูˆุงู„ุฏูŠ ูˆ70 ูู„ุณุทูŠู†ูŠู‹ุง ุขุฎุฑูŠู† ุฅู„ู‰ ู†ุตุจ ุงู„ู‡ูˆู„ูˆูƒูˆุณุช ุงู„ุชุฐูƒุงุฑูŠ.
10:01
It was the first time such a big delegation going there,
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ูƒุงู†ุช ู‡ุฐู‡ ู‡ูŠ ุงู„ู…ุฑุฉ ุงู„ุฃูˆู„ู‰ ุงู„ุชูŠ ูŠุฐู‡ุจ ููŠู‡ุง ู…ุซู„ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ูˆูุฏ ุงู„ูƒุจูŠุฑ ุฅู„ู‰ ู‡ู†ุงูƒุŒ
10:05
and they had this hard conversation.
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ูˆู‚ุฏ ุฃุฌุฑูˆุง ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ู…ุญุงุฏุซุฉ ุงู„ุตุนุจุฉ.
10:08
Later, the Israelis in the meeting
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ููŠ ูˆู‚ุช ู„ุงุญู‚ุŒ ุงู†ุชู‡ู‰ ุงู„ุฃู…ุฑ ุจุงู„ุฅุณุฑุงุฆูŠู„ูŠูŠู† ููŠ ุงู„ุงุฌุชู…ุงุน ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ู‚ุฏูˆู… ุŒ
10:10
ended up coming and having a similar conversation
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ูˆุฅุฌุฑุงุก ู…ุญุงุฏุซุฉ ู…ู…ุงุซู„ุฉ ุญูˆู„ ุงู„ุชุงุฑูŠุฎ ูˆุงู„ุฑูˆุงูŠุฉ ุงู„ูู„ุณุทูŠู†ูŠุฉุŒ
10:13
about Palestinian history and narrative,
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10:15
going to a town that was destroyed in 1948, in the Nakba.
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ูˆุงู„ุฐู‡ุงุจ ุฅู„ู‰ ุจู„ุฏุฉ ุฏู…ุฑุช ููŠ ุนุงู… 1948ุŒ ููŠ ุงู„ู†ูƒุจุฉ.
10:21
I've been working in the last 20-some years
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ู„ู‚ุฏ ูƒู†ุช ุฃุนู…ู„ ููŠ ุงู„ุณู†ูˆุงุช ุงู„ุนุดุฑูŠู† ุงู„ู…ุงุถูŠุฉุŒ
10:24
and finding ways to ask those questions.
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ูˆุฃุฌุฏ ุทุฑู‚ู‹ุง ู„ุทุฑุญ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุฃุณุฆู„ุฉ.
10:27
In 2009, I co-founded Mejdi Tours and later Interact International
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ููŠ ุนุงู… 2009ุŒ ุดุงุฑูƒุช ููŠ ุชุฃุณูŠุณ ู…ุฌุฏูŠ ุชูˆุฑุฒ ูˆ ุงู†ุชุฑุงูƒุช ุงู†ุชุฑู†ุงุดูˆู†ุงู„ ู„ุงุญู‚ู‹ุง
ู…ุน ุตุฏูŠู‚ูŠ ุงู„ูŠู‡ูˆุฏูŠ ุณูƒูˆุช.
10:32
with my Jewish friend, Scott.
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10:34
To do that, to give a context,
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ู„ู„ู‚ูŠุงู… ุจุฐู„ูƒุŒ ู„ุฅุนุทุงุก ุงู„ุณูŠุงู‚ุŒ
10:35
a place where we can build a movement of citizen diplomats,
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ู…ูƒุงู†ู‹ุง ูŠู…ูƒู†ู†ุง ู…ู† ุฎู„ุงู„ู‡ ุจู†ุงุก ุญุฑูƒุฉ ู…ู† ุงู„ู…ูˆุงุทู†ูŠู† ุงู„ุฏุจู„ูˆู…ุงุณูŠูŠู†ุŒ
10:40
where you can have dual-narrative tours,
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ุญูŠุซ ูŠู…ูƒู†ูƒ ุงู„ู‚ูŠุงู… ุจุฌูˆู„ุงุช ุณุฑุฏูŠุฉ ู…ุฒุฏูˆุฌุฉุŒ
10:42
an Israeli and a Palestinian co-leading a tour,
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ุญูŠุซ ูŠุชุดุงุฑูƒ ุฅุณุฑุงุฆูŠู„ูŠ ูˆูู„ุณุทูŠู†ูŠ ููŠ ู‚ูŠุงุฏุฉ ุฌูˆู„ุฉุŒ
10:44
and then in many other, dozen of other countries.
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ุซู… ููŠ ุงู„ุนุฏูŠุฏ ู…ู† ุงู„ุจู„ุฏุงู† ุงู„ุฃุฎุฑู‰ุŒ ููŠ ุนุดุฑุงุช ุงู„ุจู„ุฏุงู† ุงู„ุฃุฎุฑู‰.
10:47
So we can find a framework,
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ุฅุฐุงู‹ ูŠู…ูƒู†ู†ุง ุฅูŠุฌุงุฏ ุฅุทุงุฑุŒ
10:49
we can say: How can I learn from you?
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ูŠู…ูƒู†ู†ุง ุฃู† ู†ู‚ูˆู„: ูƒูŠู ูŠู…ูƒู†ู†ูŠ ุงู„ุชุนู„ู… ู…ู†ูƒุŸ
10:53
What is it that we can push each other to do?
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ู…ุง ุงู„ุฐูŠ ูŠู…ูƒู†ู†ุง ุฏูุน ุจุนุถู†ุง ุงู„ุจุนุถ ู„ู„ู‚ูŠุงู… ุจู‡ุŸ
10:56
And maybe thatโ€™s the question: What have we learned from each other?
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ูˆุฑุจู…ุง ู‡ุฐุง ู‡ูˆ ุงู„ุณุคุงู„: ู…ุงุฐุง ุชุนู„ู…ู†ุง ู…ู† ุจุนุถู†ุง ุงู„ุจุนุถุŸ
11:01
MI: Yeah, so regarding to your father's questions,
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ู…ุงูˆุฒ ุฅูŠู†ูˆู†: ู†ุนู…ุŒ ููŠู…ุง ูŠุชุนู„ู‚ ุจุฃุณุฆู„ุฉ ูˆุงู„ุฏูƒุŒ
11:04
I think it was November that a very, very good Palestinian friend asked me,
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ุฃุนุชู‚ุฏ ุฃู†ู‡ ููŠ ุดู‡ุฑ ู†ูˆูู…ุจุฑ ุณุฃู„ู†ูŠ ุตุฏูŠู‚ ูู„ุณุทูŠู†ูŠ ุฌูŠุฏ ุฌุฏู‹ุงุŒ
11:09
โ€œMaoz, can I ask you a difficult question?โ€
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โ€œู…ุงูˆุฒุŒ ู‡ู„ ูŠู…ูƒู†ู†ูŠ ุฃู† ุฃุทุฑุญ ุนู„ูŠูƒ ุณุคุงู„ู‹ุง ุตุนุจู‹ุงุŸโ€
11:11
I said, "You are my friend, You can ask whatever you like."
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ู‚ู„ุช: โ€œุฃู†ุชู ุตุฏูŠู‚ุชูŠุŒ ูŠู…ูƒู†ูƒ ุฃู† ุชุณุฃู„ูŠ ู…ุง ุชุฑูŠุฏูŠู†.โ€
ุณุฃู„ุชู†ูŠ: โ€œู…ุงุนูˆุฒุŒ ุฑุจู…ุง ุชู… ุญุฑู‚ ู…ู†ุฒู„ ูˆุงู„ุฏูŠูƒ
11:14
She asked me, "Maoz, maybe your parents' house
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11:16
was burned from the crossfire,
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ุจุณุจุจ ุชุจุงุฏู„ ุฅุทู„ุงู‚ ุงู„ู†ุงุฑุŒ
11:18
from the IDF, and not from the Hamas?โ€
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ู…ู† ุฌูŠุด ุงู„ุฏูุงุน ุงู„ุฅุณุฑุงุฆูŠู„ูŠุŒ ูˆู„ูŠุณ ู…ู† ุญู…ุงุณุŸโ€
11:22
And she was literally denying October 7,
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ูˆูƒุงู†ุช ุชู†ูƒุฑ ุญุฑููŠู‹ุง 7 ุฃูƒุชูˆุจุฑุŒ
11:25
and I was shocked.
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ูˆู„ู‚ุฏ ุตูุฏู…ุช.
11:27
I didn't know what to say.
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ู„ู… ุฃูƒู† ุฃุนุฑู ู…ุงุฐุง ุฃู‚ูˆู„.
11:28
And then I stopped for a second
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ุซู… ุชูˆู‚ูุช ู„ุซุงู†ูŠุฉุŒ
11:31
and I asked, I told her, "You know what?
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ูˆุณุฃู„ุชู‡ุง ูˆู‚ู„ุช ู„ู‡ุง: โ€œู‡ู„ ุชุนุฑููŠ ู…ุงุฐุงุŸ
11:34
What does it matter?
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ู…ุง ุฃู‡ู…ูŠุฉ ุฐู„ูƒุŸ
11:36
What does it matter?
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ู…ุง ุฃู‡ู…ูŠุฉ ุฐู„ูƒุŸ
11:37
My parents are dead.
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ู…ุงุช ูˆุงู„ุฏุงูŠ.
11:39
And they are dead because of the conflict and the war
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ูˆู‚ุฏ ู…ุงุชูˆุง ุจุณุจุจ ุงู„ุตุฑุงุน ูˆุงู„ุญุฑุจุŒ
11:42
that has been going on for so long.
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ุงู„ู…ุณุชู…ุฑุฉ ู…ู†ุฐ ูุชุฑุฉ ุทูˆูŠู„ุฉ.
11:44
And it's our mission to stop it."
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ูˆู…ู‡ู…ุชู†ุง ู‡ูŠ ุฅูŠู‚ุงูู‡ุง.โ€
11:46
And I learned so much in the recent months from speaking,
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ูˆุชุนู„ู…ุช ุงู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ููŠ ุงู„ุฃุดู‡ุฑ ุงู„ุฃุฎูŠุฑุฉ ู…ู† ุงู„ุชุญุฏุซ
11:50
dialoguing with Palestinians,
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ูˆุงู„ุชุญุงูˆุฑ ู…ุน ุงู„ูู„ุณุทูŠู†ูŠูŠู†ุŒ
11:53
I learned that we must forgive for the past.
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ูˆุชุนู„ู…ุช ุฃู†ู‡ ูŠุฌุจ ุนู„ูŠู†ุง ุฃู† ู†ุบูุฑ ุงู„ู…ุงุถูŠ.
11:57
We must forgive for the present.
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ูŠุฌุจ ุฃู† ู†ุบูุฑ ู„ู„ุญุงุถุฑ.
12:00
But we cannot and should not forgive for the future.
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ูˆู„ูƒู† ู„ุง ูŠู…ูƒู†ู†ุง ูˆู„ุง ูŠู†ุจุบูŠ ู„ู†ุง ุฃู† ู†ุบูุฑ ู„ู„ู…ุณุชู‚ุจู„.
12:04
Not to ourself and to no one else
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ู„ูŠุณ ู„ู†ูุณูƒ ูˆู„ุง ู„ุฃูŠ ุดุฎุต ุขุฎุฑ
12:07
if you want to make the future a better future.
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ุฅุฐุง ูƒู†ุช ุชุฑุบุจ ููŠ ุฌุนู„ ุงู„ู…ุณุชู‚ุจู„ ู…ุณุชู‚ุจู„ู‹ุง ุฃูุถู„.
12:09
I learned that our stories were split in the past,
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ุนู„ู…ุชู ุฃู† ู‚ุตุตู†ุง ุงู†ู‚ุณู…ุช ููŠ ุงู„ู…ุงุถูŠุŒ
12:12
with a different chosen son of Abraham.
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ู…ุน ุงุจู† ู…ุฎุชุงุฑ ู…ุฎุชู„ู ู„ุฅุจุฑุงู‡ูŠู….
12:14
And for many centuries, our stories were parallel.
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ูˆู„ุนุฏุฉ ู‚ุฑูˆู†ุŒ ูƒุงู†ุช ู‚ุตุตู†ุง ู…ุชูˆุงุฒูŠุฉ.
12:18
And the gap between them is becoming wider and wider
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ูˆุงู„ูุฌูˆุฉ ุจูŠู†ู‡ู…ุง ุฃุตุจุญุช ุฃูˆุณุน ูˆุฃูˆุณุน
12:22
as we are getting to the present.
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ู…ุน ูˆุตูˆู„ู†ุง ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ุญุงุถุฑ.
12:24
And it began to get wider with the beginning of the Zionist movement
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ูˆุจุฏุฃุช ุชุชุณุน ู…ุน ุจุฏุงูŠุฉ ุงู„ุญุฑูƒุฉ ุงู„ุตู‡ูŠูˆู†ูŠุฉุŒ
12:29
and the Palestinian national movement,
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ูˆุงู„ุญุฑูƒุฉ ุงู„ูˆุทู†ูŠุฉ ุงู„ูู„ุณุทูŠู†ูŠุฉุŒ
12:31
and with all the war we've been waging on each other,
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ูˆู…ุน ูƒู„ ุงู„ุญุฑุจ ุงู„ุชูŠ ู†ุฎูˆุถู‡ุง ุนู„ู‰ ุจุนุถู†ุง ุงู„ุจุนุถุŒ
12:34
it's becoming wider and wider.
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ุฃุตุจุญุช ุฃูˆุณุน ูˆุฃูˆุณุน.
12:36
And now in the present, it's as wide as ever.
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ูˆุงู„ุขู† ููŠ ุงู„ูˆู‚ุช ุงู„ุญุงุถุฑุŒ ุฃุตุจุญุช ูˆุงุณุนุฉ ูƒู…ุง ูƒุงู†ุช ุฏุงุฆู…ู‹ุง.
12:39
Our stories were never [as] apart as they are now.
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ู„ู… ุชูƒู† ู‚ุตุตู†ุง ู…ู†ูุตู„ุฉ ุฃุจุฏู‹ุง ูƒู…ุง ู‡ูŠ ุงู„ุขู†.
12:43
But there is a miracle.
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ูˆู„ูƒู† ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ู…ุนุฌุฒุฉ.
12:47
There is a miracle, our stories meet.
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ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ู…ุนุฌุฒุฉุŒ ุชู„ุชู‚ูŠ ู‚ุตุตู†ุง.
12:50
They meet in the future.
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ูŠุฌุชู…ุนูˆู† ููŠ ุงู„ู…ุณุชู‚ุจู„.
12:52
We meet in the future that is based on reconciliation and recognition.
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ู†ู„ุชู‚ูŠ ููŠ ุงู„ู…ุณุชู‚ุจู„ ุงู„ู‚ุงุฆู… ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ู…ุตุงู„ุญุฉ ูˆุงู„ุงุนุชุฑุงู.
12:59
That is based on security and safety.
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ู‡ุฐุง ูŠุนุชู…ุฏ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุฃู…ู† ูˆุงู„ุณู„ุงู…ุฉ.
13:03
And of course, on equality.
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ูˆุจุงู„ุทุจุนุŒ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ู…ุณุงูˆุงุฉ.
13:06
And now we must use the same steps I used to fulfill,
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ูˆุงู„ุขู† ูŠุฌุจ ุฃู† ู†ุณุชุฎุฏู… ู†ูุณ ุงู„ุฎุทูˆุงุชุŒ
ุงู„ุชูŠ ุงุนุชุฏุช ุชุญู‚ูŠู‚ู‡ุงุŒ ุฃูˆ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุงุนุชุฏู†ุง ุนู„ูŠู‡ุง ู„ุชุญู‚ูŠู‚ ุฃุญู„ุงู…ู†ุง ุงู„ุณุงุจู‚ุฉุŒ
13:09
or we used to fulfill our previous dreams,
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13:12
in making this dream into a reality.
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ููŠ ุชุญูˆูŠู„ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุญู„ู… ุฅู„ู‰ ุญู‚ูŠู‚ุฉ.
13:15
We are all dreaming of peace.
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ูƒู„ู†ุง ู†ุญู„ู… ุจุงู„ุณู„ุงู….
13:18
We are building a coalition.
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ู†ุญู† ู†ุจู†ูŠ ุฅุฆุชู„ุงูู‹ุง.
13:20
Palestinians, Israelis, supported from all over the world.
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ุงู„ูู„ุณุทูŠู†ูŠูˆู† ูˆุงู„ุฅุณุฑุงุฆูŠู„ูŠูˆู† ุงู„ุฏุงุนู…ูˆู† ู…ู† ุฌู…ูŠุน ุฃู†ุญุงุก ุงู„ุนุงู„ู….
13:25
We share the same values and common ground.
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ู†ุญู† ู†ุชุดุงุฑูƒ ู†ูุณ ุงู„ู‚ูŠู… ูˆุงู„ุฃุฑุถูŠุฉ ุงู„ู…ุดุชุฑูƒุฉ.
13:28
We are writing now,
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ู†ุญู† ู†ูƒุชุจ ุงู„ุขู†ุŒ
13:30
right now we are writing a very detailed, informative road map,
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ูˆุงู„ุขู† ู†ูƒุชุจ ุฎุฑูŠุทุฉ ุทุฑูŠู‚ ู…ูุตู„ุฉ ู„ู„ุบุงูŠุฉ ูˆุบู†ูŠุฉ ุจุงู„ู…ุนู„ูˆู…ุงุชุŒ
13:33
and we are already starting to execute.
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ูˆุจุฏุฃู†ุง ุจุงู„ูุนู„ ููŠ ุงู„ุชู†ููŠุฐ.
13:36
And what we are doing now, tonight,
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ูˆู…ุง ู†ู‚ูˆู… ุจู‡ ุงู„ุขู†ุŒ ุงู„ู„ูŠู„ุฉุŒ
13:38
we are executing the first two chapters of our road map.
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ู†ู‚ูˆู… ุจุชู†ููŠุฐ ุฃูˆู„ ูุตู„ูŠู† ู…ู† ุฎุงุฑุทุฉ ุงู„ุทุฑูŠู‚ ุงู„ุฎุงุตุฉ ุจู†ุง.
ู†ุญู† ู†ุถุฎู… ุฃุตูˆุงุชู†ุง
13:42
We are amplifying our voices
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ูˆู†ุจู†ูŠ ุดุฑุนูŠุชู†ุง
13:44
and building our legitimacy
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13:47
as the leaders of the future.
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ูƒู‚ุงุฏุฉ ุงู„ู…ุณุชู‚ุจู„.
13:51
And I could not ask for a better partner,
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ูˆู„ู… ุฃุณุชุทุน ุฃู† ุฃุทู„ุจ ุดุฑูŠูƒู‹ุง ุฃูุถู„
13:56
for a better companion than you, Aziz.
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ุฃูˆ ุฑููŠู‚ู‹ุง ุฃูุถู„ ู…ู†ูƒ ูŠุง ุนุฒูŠุฒ.
14:01
AAS: Now when people hear this,
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ุนุฒูŠุฒ ุฃุจูˆ ุณุงุฑุฉ: ุงู„ุขู† ุนู†ุฏู…ุง ูŠุณู…ุน ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ู‡ุฐุงุŒ
14:03
and I think we are much stronger together than ever alone,
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ูˆุฃุนุชู‚ุฏ ุฃู†ู†ุง ุฃู‚ูˆู‰ ุจูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ุนู‹ุง ู…ู† ุฃูŠ ูˆู‚ุช ู…ุถู‰ ุจู…ูุฑุฏู†ุงุŒ
14:06
we've been doing so much work
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ูƒู†ุง ู†ู‚ูˆู… ุจุงู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ู† ุงู„ุนู…ู„
14:08
on campuses with anti-Jewish and anti-Muslim hate,
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ููŠ ุงู„ุฌุงู…ุนุงุช ู…ุน ุงู„ูƒุฑุงู‡ูŠุฉ ุงู„ู…ุนุงุฏูŠุฉ ู„ู„ูŠู‡ูˆุฏ ูˆุงู„ู…ุณู„ู…ูŠู†ุŒ
14:11
with helping people in our own community,
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ู…ุน ู…ุณุงุนุฏุฉ ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ููŠ ู…ุฌุชู…ุนู†ุงุŒ
14:13
finding ways to organize.
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ูˆุฅูŠุฌุงุฏ ุทุฑู‚ ู„ู„ุชู†ุธูŠู….
14:14
But I think people can hear this and think,
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ู„ูƒู†ู†ูŠ ุฃุนุชู‚ุฏ ุฃู† ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ูŠู…ูƒู†ู‡ู… ุณู…ุงุน ู‡ุฐุง ูˆุงู„ุชููƒูŠุฑุŒ
14:16
"So you can lose people in your family and not be angry?"
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โ€œู„ุฐุง ูŠู…ูƒู†ูƒ ุฃู† ุชูู‚ุฏ ุฃุดุฎุงุตู‹ุง ููŠ ุนุงุฆู„ุชูƒ ูˆู„ุง ุชุบุถุจุŸโ€
14:21
And I think thatโ€™s a mistake.
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ูˆุฃุนุชู‚ุฏ ุฃู† ู‡ุฐุง ุฎุทุฃุŒ ู†ุญู† ุบุงุถุจูˆู†.
14:22
We are angry.
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14:23
I am very angry.
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ุฃู†ุง ุบุงุถุจ ุฌุฏู‹ุง.
ููŠ ูƒู„ ู…ุฑุฉ ุฃู‚ุฑุฃ ููŠู‡ุง ุงู„ุตุญูŠูุฉุŒ ุฃุดุนุฑ ุจุงู„ุบุถุจ.
14:25
Every time I read the newspaper, I'm angry.
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14:27
Every time I talk to one of my friends in Gaza, I am angry.
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ููŠ ูƒู„ ู…ุฑุฉ ุฃุชุญุฏุซ ููŠู‡ุง ู…ุน ุฃุญุฏ ุฃุตุฏู‚ุงุฆูŠ ููŠ ุบุฒุฉุŒ ุฃุดุนุฑ ุจุงู„ุบุถุจ.
14:31
But the thing is, I do not let anger,
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ู„ูƒู† ุงู„ุฃู…ุฑ ู‡ูˆ ุฃู†ู†ูŠ ู„ุง ุฃุฏุน ุงู„ุบุถุจุŒ
14:34
and we do not let anger, drown us in hate
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ูˆู„ุง ู†ุฏุน ุงู„ุบุถุจุŒ ูŠุบุฑู‚ู†ุง ููŠ ุงู„ูƒุฑุงู‡ูŠุฉ
14:37
and wanting vengeance.
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ูˆุงู„ุฑุบุจุฉ ููŠ ุงู„ุงู†ุชู‚ุงู….
14:39
Instead, I think of anger like a nuclear power.
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ุจุฏู„ุงู‹ ู…ู† ุฐู„ูƒุŒ ุฃููƒุฑ ููŠ ุงู„ุบุถุจ ู…ุซู„ ุงู„ุทุงู‚ุฉ ุงู„ู†ูˆูˆูŠุฉ.
14:42
It can lead to destruction, and it can make light.
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ูŠู…ูƒู† ุฃู† ูŠุคุฏูŠ ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ุฏู…ุงุฑุŒ ูˆูŠู…ูƒู† ุฃู† ูŠุตู†ุน ุงู„ุถูˆุก.
14:47
And my hope is that we continue to use anger
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ูˆุขู…ู„ ุฃู† ู†ุณุชู…ุฑ ููŠ ุงุณุชุฎุฏุงู… ุงู„ุบุถุจ
14:50
as a way to bring people together,
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ูƒูˆุณูŠู„ุฉ ู„ุฌู…ุน ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ู…ุนู‹ุงุŒ
14:52
to ask ourselves,
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ู„ู†ุณุฃู„ ุฃู†ูุณู†ุงุŒ
โ€œู…ุงุฐุง ูŠู…ูƒู†ู†ูŠ ุฃู† ุฃูุนู„ ู„ุชุญุณูŠู† ุงู„ุฃู…ูˆุฑุŸโ€
14:54
"What can I do to make things better?"
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14:57
MI: And that brings me to the most important ...
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ู…ุงูˆุฒ ุฅูŠู†ูˆู†: ูˆู‡ุฐุง ูŠู‚ูˆุฏู†ูŠ ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ุฃู‡ู…...
15:00
(Applause)
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(ุชุตููŠู‚)
15:04
I love you.
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ุฃุญุจูƒ.
15:05
And it brings me to the most important lessons I learned.
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ูˆู‡ูˆ ูŠู‚ูˆุฏู†ูŠ ุฅู„ู‰ ุฃู‡ู… ุงู„ุฏุฑูˆุณ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุชุนู„ู…ุชู‡ุง.
15:09
That hope is an action.
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ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุฃู…ู„ ู‡ูˆ ุนู…ู„.
15:11
It's not something you find, not something you can lose.
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ุฅู†ู‡ ู„ูŠุณ ุดูŠุฆู‹ุง ุชุฌุฏู‡ุŒ ูˆู„ูŠุณ ุดูŠุฆู‹ุง ูŠู…ูƒู† ุฃู† ุชุฎุณุฑู‡.
15:15
It's something you are making.
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ุฅู†ู‡ ุดูŠุก ุชุตู†ุนู‡.
15:17
And I came up with a very basic formula, recipe, how to make hope.
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ูˆุชูˆุตู„ุช ุฅู„ู‰ ุตูŠุบุฉ ุฃุณุงุณูŠุฉ ู„ู„ุบุงูŠุฉุŒ ูˆุตูุฉุŒ ููŠ ูƒูŠููŠุฉ ุตู†ุน ุงู„ุฃู…ู„.
15:23
First, like love, you cannot do it by yourself.
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ุฃูˆู„ุงู‹ุŒ ู…ุซู„ ุงู„ุญุจุŒ ู„ุง ูŠู…ูƒู†ูƒ ูุนู„ ุฐู„ูƒ ุจู†ูุณูƒ.
15:26
You are doing it with others.
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ุฃู†ุช ุชูุนู„ ุฐู„ูƒ ู…ุน ุงู„ุขุฎุฑูŠู†.
15:28
(Laughter)
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(ุถุญูƒ)
15:32
And you are starting, we are starting because now it's we,
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ูˆุฃู†ุช ุชุจุฏุฃุŒ ู†ุญู† ู†ุจุฏุฃ ู„ุฃู†ู†ุง ุงู„ุขู†ุŒ
15:37
we are starting by envisioning a better future.
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ู†ุจุฏุฃ ุจุชุตูˆุฑ ู…ุณุชู‚ุจู„ ุฃูุถู„.
15:41
And then we are acting to make this future into a reality.
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ูˆู…ู† ุซู… ู†ุนู…ู„ ุนู„ู‰ ุชุญูˆูŠู„ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ู…ุณุชู‚ุจู„ ุฅู„ู‰ ุญู‚ูŠู‚ุฉ ูˆุงู‚ุนุฉ.
15:46
It's act, we must act.
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ุฅู†ู‡ ูุนู„ุŒ ูŠุฌุจ ุฃู† ู†ุชุตุฑู.
15:48
And through the process,
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ูˆู…ู† ุฎู„ุงู„ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุนู…ู„ูŠุฉุŒ
15:50
we always need to convince, first ourselves,
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ู†ุญุชุงุฌ ุฏุงุฆู…ู‹ุง ุฅู„ู‰ ุฅู‚ู†ุงุน ุฃู†ูุณู†ุง ุฃูˆู„ุงู‹ุŒ
15:54
and all our coalition
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ูˆุฌู…ูŠุน ุชุญุงู„ูู†ุง
15:57
and everyone that is willing to listen,
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ูˆูƒู„ ู…ู† ูŠุฑุบุจ ููŠ ุงู„ุงุณุชู…ุงุน
16:00
that our actions are effective.
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ุจุฃู† ุฅุฌุฑุงุกุงุชู†ุง ูุนุงู„ุฉ.
16:03
It's very simple.
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ุงู„ุฃู…ุฑ ุจุณูŠุท ู„ู„ุบุงูŠุฉ.
16:04
It's very simple.
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ุงู„ุฃู…ุฑ ููŠ ุบุงูŠุฉ ุงู„ุจุณุงุทุฉ.
16:05
And this is what we must do.
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ูˆู‡ุฐุง ู…ุง ูŠุฌุจ ุนู„ูŠู†ุง ุงู„ู‚ูŠุงู… ุจู‡.
16:07
And I believe that if we will be brave enough and brilliant enough,
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ูˆุฃุนุชู‚ุฏ ุฃู†ู‡ ุฅุฐุง ุชุญู„ูŠู†ุง ุจุงู„ุดุฌุงุนุฉ ุงู„ูƒุงููŠุฉ ูˆุงู„ุฐูƒุงุก ุงู„ูƒุงููŠุŒ
16:12
we can make this future into a reality
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ููŠู…ูƒู†ู†ุง ุชุญูˆูŠู„ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ู…ุณุชู‚ุจู„ ุฅู„ู‰ ุญู‚ูŠู‚ุฉ ูˆุงู‚ุนุฉ
16:16
in the near future.
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ููŠ ุงู„ู…ุณุชู‚ุจู„ ุงู„ู‚ุฑูŠุจ.
16:18
That by 2030 or before,
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ุจุญู„ูˆู„ ุนุงู… 2030 ุฃูˆ ู‚ุจู„ ุฐู„ูƒุŒ
ุณูŠูƒูˆู† ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุณู„ุงู… ุจูŠู† ุงู„ู†ู‡ุฑ ูˆุงู„ุจุญุฑ.
16:22
there's going to be peace between the river and the sea.
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16:25
AAS: You know ...
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ุนุฒูŠุฒ ุฃุจูˆ ุณุงุฑุฉ: ุฃู†ุช ุชุนุฑู...
(ุชุตููŠู‚)
16:27
(Applause)
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16:32
We say today, ideas change everything.
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ู†ู‚ูˆู„ ุงู„ูŠูˆู…ุŒ ุงู„ุฃููƒุงุฑ ุชุบูŠุฑ ูƒู„ ุดูŠุก.
16:36
And I have an idea.
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ูˆู„ุฏูŠ ููƒุฑุฉ.
16:38
People look at us and think we are divided
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ูŠู†ุธุฑ ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ุฅู„ูŠู†ุง ูˆูŠุนุชู‚ุฏูˆู† ุฃู†ู†ุง ู…ู†ู‚ุณู…ูˆู†
16:40
because youโ€™re Israeli and Iโ€™m Palestinian,
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ู„ุฃู†ูƒ ุฅุณุฑุงุฆูŠู„ูŠ ูˆุฃู†ุง ูู„ุณุทูŠู†ูŠุŒ
16:42
Muslims and Jews.
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ู…ุณู„ู… ูˆูŠู‡ูˆุฏูŠ.
16:44
But if you must divide us,
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ูˆู„ูƒู† ุฅุฐุง ูƒุงู† ู„ุง ุจุฏ ู…ู† ุชู‚ุณูŠู…ู†ุงุŒ
16:46
people should divide us as those of us who believe in justice,
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ูŠุฌุจ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ุฃู† ูŠูุฑู‚ูˆู†ุง ู…ุซู„ ุฃูˆู„ุฆูƒ ุงู„ุฐูŠู† ูŠุคู…ู†ูˆู† ุจุงู„ุนุฏุงู„ุฉ
16:49
peace and equality,
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ูˆุงู„ุณู„ุงู… ูˆุงู„ู…ุณุงูˆุงุฉุŒ
16:50
and those who donโ€™t, yet.
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ูˆุฃูˆู„ุฆูƒ ุงู„ุฐูŠู† ู„ุง ูŠูุนู„ูˆู† ุฐู„ูƒ ุญุชู‰ ุงู„ุขู†.
16:53
And our work here
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ูˆุนู…ู„ู†ุง ู‡ู†ุง
16:55
is to invite everyone, to invite you, to join us into our work,
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ู‡ูˆ ุฏุนูˆุฉ ุงู„ุฌู…ูŠุนุŒ ูˆุฏุนูˆุชูƒู…ุŒ ูˆุงู„ุงู†ุถู…ุงู… ุฅู„ูŠู†ุง ููŠ ุนู…ู„ู†ุงุŒ
16:59
into bringing everyone together
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ููŠ ุงู„ุฌู…ุน ุจูŠู† ุงู„ุฌู…ูŠุนุŒ
17:02
to take a stand that says, โ€œWe are not enemies.โ€
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ู„ุงุชุฎุงุฐ ู…ูˆู‚ู ูŠู‚ูˆู„: โ€œู†ุญู† ู„ุณู†ุง ุฃุนุฏุงุก.โ€
17:05
Do not be mistaken.
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ู„ุง ุชูƒู† ู…ุฎุทุฆุง.
17:06
We lost our family members,
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ู„ู‚ุฏ ูู‚ุฏู†ุง ุฃูุฑุงุฏ ุนุงุฆู„ุชู†ุงุŒ
17:08
we did not lose our sanity, we did not lose our minds.
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ูˆู„ู… ู†ูู‚ุฏ ุณู„ุงู…ุชู†ุง ุงู„ุนู‚ู„ูŠุฉุŒ ู„ู… ู†ูู‚ุฏ ุนู‚ูˆู„ู†ุง.
17:12
We are here together saying we will fight on the same side
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ู†ุญู† ู‡ู†ุง ู…ุนู‹ุง ู†ู‚ูˆู„ ุฅู†ู†ุง ุณู†ู‚ุงุชู„ ุนู„ู‰ ู†ูุณ ุงู„ุฌุงู†ุจ
17:15
for justice and for peace.
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ู…ู† ุฃุฌู„ ุงู„ุนุฏุงู„ุฉ ูˆุงู„ุณู„ุงู….
17:17
Thank you.
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ุดูƒุฑู‹ุง ู„ูƒ.
(ุชุตููŠู‚)
17:19
(Applause)
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ุญูˆู„ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ู…ูˆู‚ุน

ุณูŠู‚ุฏู… ู„ูƒ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ู…ูˆู‚ุน ู…ู‚ุงุทุน ููŠุฏูŠูˆ YouTube ุงู„ู…ููŠุฏุฉ ู„ุชุนู„ู… ุงู„ู„ุบุฉ ุงู„ุฅู†ุฌู„ูŠุฒูŠุฉ. ุณุชุฑู‰ ุฏุฑูˆุณ ุงู„ู„ุบุฉ ุงู„ุฅู†ุฌู„ูŠุฒูŠุฉ ุงู„ุชูŠ ูŠุชู… ุชุฏุฑูŠุณู‡ุง ู…ู† ู‚ุจู„ ู…ุฏุฑุณูŠู† ู…ู† ุงู„ุฏุฑุฌุฉ ุงู„ุฃูˆู„ู‰ ู…ู† ุฌู…ูŠุน ุฃู†ุญุงุก ุงู„ุนุงู„ู…. ุงู†ู‚ุฑ ู†ู‚ุฑู‹ุง ู…ุฒุฏูˆุฌู‹ุง ููˆู‚ ุงู„ุชุฑุฌู…ุฉ ุงู„ุฅู†ุฌู„ูŠุฒูŠุฉ ุงู„ู…ุนุฑูˆุถุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ูƒู„ ุตูุญุฉ ููŠุฏูŠูˆ ู„ุชุดุบูŠู„ ุงู„ููŠุฏูŠูˆ ู…ู† ู‡ู†ุงูƒ. ูŠุชู… ุชู…ุฑูŠุฑ ุงู„ุชุฑุฌู…ุงุช ุจุงู„ุชุฒุงู…ู† ู…ุน ุชุดุบูŠู„ ุงู„ููŠุฏูŠูˆ. ุฅุฐุง ูƒุงู† ู„ุฏูŠูƒ ุฃูŠ ุชุนู„ูŠู‚ุงุช ุฃูˆ ุทู„ุจุงุช ุŒ ูŠุฑุฌู‰ ุงู„ุงุชุตุงู„ ุจู†ุง ุจุงุณุชุฎุฏุงู… ู†ู…ูˆุฐุฌ ุงู„ุงุชุตุงู„ ู‡ุฐุง.

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