Dean Kamen: The emotion behind invention

譯者: Marie Wu 審譯者: Adrienne Lin

It's not about technology,

我想說的跟科技無關，

it's about people and stories.

而是關於人們與其背後的故事。

I could show you

我可以給大家看看

what recently was on television

最近在電視上播出

as a high quality video:

評價很高的

60 Minutes, many of you may have seen it.

「60分鐘」，大部分的人應該都有看過。

And it was the now director of the entire piece

主角是現任的

of the veteran's administration --

退伍軍人協會會長，

who, himself, had lost an arm 39 years ago

他在39年前，在越南失去了

in Vietnam --

一條手臂，

who was adamantly opposed to these crazy devices

他很固執地拒絕使用以前那種

that don't work.

不好用的義肢。

And it turns out that with 60 Minutes cameras rolling in the background,

當「60分鐘」一開始採訪他的時候，

after he pretty much made his position clear on this --

他立即表明他的立場，

he had his hook and he had his --

雖然他有那種有鈎子的義肢--

he wore this arm for less than two hours

他換上新式義肢不到二個小時，

and was able to pour himself a drink and got quite emotional over the fact

他就能自己倒水了，他激動地說，

that, quote -- his quote --

他說，

it's the first time he's felt like he's had an arm in 39 years.

這是他39年來第一次覺得自己的手臂又長回來了。

But that would sort of be jumping to the middle of the story,

我好像講得太快了，都跳到故事中段去了。

and I'm not going to show you that polished video.

我今天不想放那段修飾過的影片，

I'm going to, instead, in a minute or two,

我想要放的是更早之前拍的

show you an early, crude video

一段較為寫實的一至二分鐘影片，

because I think it's

我覺得這段影片

a better way to tell a story.

更能表達出真實的故事。

A few years ago I was visited by

幾年前，國防部高等計畫

the guy that runs DARPA,

研究局的局長來找我，

the people that fund all the advanced technologies

他們贊助的先進科技

that businesses and universities probably wouldn't take the risk of doing.

是許多企業或大學認為不值得投資的科技，

They have a particular interest in ones that will help our soldiers.

他們對可以協助軍人的科技特別感興趣。

I get this sort of unrequested -- by me anyway -- visit,

就這樣，我見了這個不速之客，

and sitting in my conference room is a very senior surgeon

陪同局長坐在我的會議室的

from the military

是軍中的一位

and the guy that runs DARPA.

資深外科手術醫生。

They proceed to tell me a story which comes down

他們告訴我一件事，

to basically the following. We have used such advanced technologies

我們現在所使用的科技非常先進，

now and made them available

就連遠在阿富汗、伊拉克

in the most remote places that we put soldiers:

山岳裡的軍人，

hills of Afghanistan, Iraq ...

也都可以使用。

They were quite proud of the fact that

他們覺得很驕傲，

you know, before the dust clears,

因為在戰事過後，

if some soldier has been hurt

如果有士兵受傷了，

they will have collected him or her, they will have brought him back,

他們很快就能把士兵救回來，送到醫院，

they will be getting world-class triage emergency care

讓受傷的士兵接受世界級的急救醫療，

faster than you and I would be getting it if we were hurt

其速度之快，比你我在美國各大都市發生車禍受傷，

in a car accident in a major city in the United States.

被送到醫院接受急救還要快。

That's the good news.

這很不錯，

The bad news is if they've collected this person

糟糕的是，若他們救回來的士兵，

and he or she is missing an arm or leg,

斷了一條手臂、斷了一條腿、

part of the face, it's probably not coming back.

或毁容了，就很難回復到原來的狀況。

So, they started giving me the statistics on how many of these kids had lost an arm.

他們告訴我這些士兵斷掉手臂的統計數據，

And then the surgeon pointed out, with a lot of anger,

外科手術醫生則氣沖沖地說：

he said, "Why is it? At the end of the Civil War,

「在南北戰爭的時候，

they were shooting each other with muskets. If somebody lost an arm,

大家用的是毛瑟槍，如果有人斷了手臂，

we gave them a wooden stick with a hook on it.

我們就幫他們裝上一支木棍，外加一個鈎子。

Now we've got F18s and F22s,

我們現在都已經改用F18和F22戰機了，

and if somebody loses an arm,

為什麼每當有人手臂斷掉時，

we give them a plastic stick with a hook on it."

我們還是只給他們一支塑膠棍子外加一個鈎子呢？」

And they basically said, "This is unacceptable,"

他們覺得這樣很不合理，

and then the punchline: "So, Dean,

最後他們說：「迪恩，

we're here because you make medical stuff.

我知道你有製作醫療器材，

You're going to give us an arm."

你一定要幫我們做出一支手臂來。」

And I was waiting for the 500 pages of bureaucracy,

那時我想，或許他們會給我一份高達500頁的

paperwork and DODs.

官樣文章，

No, the guy says,

結果沒有。局長說：

"We're going to bring a guy into this conference room,

「我們會請一位斷了手臂的士兵來這裡，

and wearing the arm you're going to give us,

試戴你為我們設計的義肢，

he or she is going to pick up a raisin or a grape

他要能用那支義肢拿起桌上的葡萄乾

off this table.

或葡萄，

If it's the grape, they won't break it."

而不會把葡萄捏碎。」

Great he needs efferent, afferent, haptic response sensors.

哦！他們要的就是要具備傳出、傳入的功能，還要有觸覺。

"If it's the raisin, they won't drop it."

「也不會把葡萄乾掉在地上。」

So he wants fine motor control: flex at the wrist,

他要能控制細部動作，手腕要能彎曲，

flex at the elbow, abduct and flex at the shoulder.

手肘要能彎曲，肩膀要能彎曲和伸展，

Either way they were going to eat it.

不管怎樣就是要把食物送進嘴裡就是了。

"Oh, by the way Dean. It's going to fit on a 50th percentile female frame --

「對了，迪恩，我們要的是一般女人尺寸的義肢，

namely 32 inches from the long finger --

也就是從肩膀到手指長約80公分，

and weigh less than nine pounds."

重量不超過4公斤的義肢。

50th percentile female frame.

也就是一般女人的尺寸，

"And it's going to be completely self contained including all its power."

裡面要有所有的功能，當然還要包含電力供應系統。」

So, they finished that. And I, as you can tell,

他們說完了。但我，你看得出來

am a bashful guy.

我是個腼腆的人，

I told them they're nuts.

我告訴他們，他們瘋了。

(Laughter)

(笑聲)

They've been watching too much "Terminator."

他們大概看太多「魔鬼終結者」了。

(Laughter)

(笑聲)

Then, the surgeon says to me,

接著，外科手術醫生告訴我：

"Dean, you need to know

「迪恩，你必須知道，

more than two dozen of these kids have come back

有超過24個士兵

bilateral."

是雙臂全斷的。」

Now, I cannot imagine --

我真的很難想像，

I'm sorry, you may have a better

你們可能比我

imagination than I do --

更能想像吧...

I can't imagine losing my arm,

我不能想像失去手臂的感覺，

and typically at 22 years old.

尤其是在22歲這麼年輕的時候；

But compared to that, losing two?

但失去一條手臂和失去雙臂比起來，

Seems like that would be an inconvenience.

似乎只是稍微有點不方便而已。

Anyway, I went home that night. I thought about it.

總之，我那晚回到家，我思考著這件事，

I literally could not sleep

無法入眠，

thinking about, "I wonder how you'd roll over

因為我在想，如果沒有肩膀，

with no shoulders."

要怎麼翻身？

So, I decided we've got to do this.

因此，我決定要開發這種義肢。

And trust me, I've got a day job, I've got a lot of day jobs.

相信我，我那時有白天的工作，有好幾個白天的工作，

Most of my day job keeps me busy

這些工作主要是為我手上的幾個專案

funding my fantasies like FIRST and water and power ....

籌募資金，像是創新專案和水電專案等。

And I've got a lot of day jobs.

雖然我已經有這麼多事要做，

But I figured I gotta do this.

但我想：「這件事一定要做。」

Did a little investigation,

我做了一些調查，

went down to Washington, told them

然後我跑到華盛頓去告訴他們，

I still think they're nuts but we're going to do it.

我還是覺得他們瘋了，但我們會盡力開發。

And I told them I'd build them an arm.

我告訴他們我會開發這種義肢，

I told them it would probably take five years to get through the FDA,

然後大概要等上五年FDA(食品藥物管理局)才會通過，

and probably 10 years to be reasonably functional.

我估計大概要十年才能讓義肢運作。

Look what it takes to make things like iPods.

你看看iPod花了多少時間才上市。

"Great," he said, "You got two years."

局長說：「很好，你只有二年時間。」

(Laughter)

(笑聲)

I said, "I'll tell you what. I'll build you an arm

我說：「這麼說吧，開發這個

that's under nine pounds

不到4公斤的義肢，

that has all that capability in one year.

裡面還要有這麼多功能，只需要一年時間；

It will take the other nine to make it functional and useful."

但要讓義肢變得好用並順利運作，得花另外九年的時間。」

We sort of agreed to disagree.

我們都瞭解彼此的看法了。

I went back and I started putting a team together,

我回去組了一個團隊，

the best guys I could find with a passion to do this.

團隊裡都是具有無比熱情的菁英份子。

At the end of exactly one year

在一年過去之後，

we had a device with 14 degrees of freedom,

我們開發出一個可以自由活動14度的義肢，

all the sensors, all the microprocessors,

裡面有好幾組感知器和微處理器，

all the stuff inside.

還有各項必備零件。

I could show you it with a cosmesis on it

我可以給你們看包覆了人工皮膚之後的樣子，

that's so real it's eerie, but then you wouldn't see

看起來就像真的手臂一樣，但你們就看不到

all this cool stuff.

裡面那些很酷的零件了。

I then thought it would be years

我接著想到或許還要好幾年

before we'd be able to make it really, really useful.

才能把這種義肢修正到真正好用的狀況，

It turned out, as I think you could see

但後來，從艾美(Aimee Mullins)的能力和態度

in Aimee's capabilities and attitudes,

我想你們也看得到，

people with a desire to do something

只要有心就能把事情做得很棒，

are quite remarkable and nature is quite adaptable.

人們有很強的適應力。

Anyway, with less than 10 hours of use,

總之，有二個人試用了不到十小時，

two guys -- one that's bilateral.

其中一個人雙臂斷掉，

He's literally, he's got no shoulder on one side,

有一邊連肩膀也沒有，

and he's high trans-humeral on the other.

另一邊則齊肩斷掉。

And that's Chuck and Randy together,

這二位是恰克和藍迪，

after 10 hours -- were playing in our office.

十個小時之後，他們就在我們的辦公室玩起來了，

And we took some pretty cruddy home movies.

於是我們幫他們錄下了一些可愛的片段。

At the end of the one I'm going to show, it's only about a minute

我要播放的影片大概只有一分多鐘，

and a couple of seconds long,

但在影片的最後，

Chuck does something that to this day I'm jealous of,

恰克做了一件讓我到現在都還很嫉妒的事，

I can't do it.

因為我做不到：

He picks up a spoon, picks it up,

他把一支湯匙拿起來，

scoops out some Shredded Wheat and milk,

挖出一些燕麥糊，

holds the spoon level

把湯匙放平，

as he translates it, moving all these joints simultaneously,

然後想辦法同時移動所有的關節，

to his mouth, and he doesn't drop any milk.

把東西送進嘴裡，連一滴也沒有掉下來。

(Laughter)

(笑聲)

I cannot do that.

我就做不到。

(Laughter)

(笑聲)

His wife was standing behind me.

他太太那時站在我後面，

She's standing behind me at the time

就站在我後面，

and she says, "Dean,

她說：「迪恩，

Chuck hasn't fed himself in 19 years.

恰克已經有19年沒有自己吃東西了，

So, you've got a choice:

所以你可以選擇

We keep the arm, or you keep Chuck."

把義肢交給我們，或是我們把恰克留給你。」

(Laughter) (Applause)

(笑聲)

So, can we see that?

現在可以看影片了嗎？

This is Chuck showing simultaneous control

現在恰克在示範如何同時控制

of all the joints.

所有的關節，

He's punching our controls guy. The guy behind him

他在對我們的控制工程師出拳，在他身後的人

is our engineer/surgeon,

是我們的工程師兼外科醫生，

which is a convenient guy to have around.

有他在身邊我們比較放心。

There's Randy, these guys are passing a rubber

這是藍迪，他們二個在互傳

little puck between them.

一個橡膠球。

And just as in the spirit of FIRST,

就如同我旗下的創新基金會的成立宗旨一樣，

gracious professionalism, they are quite proud of this,

這具有高尚、專業的精神，他們很自豪，

so they decide to share a drink.

所以決定來喝一杯。

This is a non-trivial thing to do, by the way.

這可不是一件簡單的事，

Imagine doing that with a wooden stick and a hook on the end of it,

想像一下，如果你的義肢是一枝木棍外加一個鈎子，

doing either of those.

你能做到這些事嗎？

Now Chuck is doing something quite extraordinary,

現在，恰克要做一件了不起的事，

at least for my limited physical skill.

而我從來都做不來這件事。

And now he's going to do what DARPA asked me for.

現在，他要做的是國防部要求我要做到的，

He's going to pick up a grape -- he didn't drop it,

就是要拿起一顆葡萄，他沒有落掉那顆葡萄，

he didn't break it --

也沒有捏碎它，

and he's going to eat it.

他要把它放進嘴裡了。

So, that's where we were

這就是我們開發了

at the end of about 15 months.

15個月的成果。

(Applause)

(掌聲)

But, as I've learned from Richard,

但是，我從理察那裡知道，

the technology, the processors, the sensors, the motors,

技術、處理器、感知器和馬達這一類的東西，

is not the story.

全都不重要，

I hadn't dealt with this kind of problem

我還沒見識過

or frankly, this whole segment

整個醫療體系

of the medical world.

的厲害呢！

I'll give you some astounding things that have happened

我來告訴各位一些我們在開發過程中，所遇到的各種

as we started this.

令人驚訝的事。

After we were pretty much convinced we had a good design,

在我們以為自己的設計沒什麼問題之後，

and we'd have to make all the standard engineering trade-offs you always make --

我們做了許多工程上的標準取捨程序，

you can always get three out of four of anything you want;

也就是在四種東西裡面選出三種好的，

the weight, the size, the cost, the functionality --

像是在重量、大小、成本和功能之中進行挑選。

I put a bunch of guys in my plane

我把大家都送上我的飛機，

and I said, "We're flying down to Walter Reed, and we're going talk to these kids,

然後告訴他們，我們要飛到華特里德醫院，和那些受傷的士兵訪談。

because frankly it doesn't matter whether we like this arm.

老實說，我們喜不喜歡那些義肢並不重要，

It doesn't matter whether the

國防部喜不喜歡

Department of Defense likes this arm."

也不重要，

When I told them that they weren't entirely enthusiastic,

當然，當我告訴國防部這個事實時，他們並不高興，

but I told them, "It really doesn't matter what their opinion is.

但我告訴他們，他們的意見並不重要，

There is only one opinion that matters,

我們只重視一種意見，

the kids that are either going to use it or not."

就是那些受傷士兵的意見，他們想不想用才重要。

I told a bunch of my engineers, "Look we're going to walk into Walter Reed,

我告訴我們的工程師：「我們現在要去華特里德醫院，

and you're going to see people, lots of them,

你們會看到很多

missing major body parts.

失去手腳的人，

They're probably going to be angry, depressed, frustrated.

他們可能會很生氣、憤怒或沮喪，

We're probably going to have to give them support, encouragement.

我們應該要支持他們，給他們鼓勵，

But we've got to extract from them

但我們要從他們那裡知道

enough information to make sure we're doing the right thing."

我們到底做得對不對。」

We walked into Walter Reed and I could not have been more wrong.

當我們走進華特里德醫院之後，我才發現我大錯特錯。

We did see a bunch of people,

我們確實看到很多人，

a lot of them missing a lot of body parts,

很多失去手腳的人，

and parts they had left were burned;

有人殘餘的肢體有燒傷的痕跡，

half a face gone, an ear burned off.

有人半邊臉不見了，有人的耳朵被燒掉了。

They were sitting at a table. They were brought together for us.

他們都圍坐在一張桌子邊，他們是為我們的到訪而聚集在那裡，

And we started asking them all questions.

所以我們開始問他們問題，

"Look," I'd say to them, "We're not quite as good as nature yet.

像是：「我們還沒辦法做到跟天生的肢體一樣，

I could give you fine motor control,

但我可以讓你做到細部動作控制，

or I could let you curl 40 pounds;

或是讓你拿起20公斤重的東西，

I probably can't do both.

但沒辦法同時做這二件事。

I can give you fast control

我可以用低耗損率的齒輪

with low reduction ratios in these gears,

讓你快速控制你的義肢，

or I can give you power;

或是讓你產生力量，

I can't give you both.

但沒辦法同時做到這二者。

And we were trying to get them to all help us

我們希望他們全都能幫我們

know what to give them.

瞭解他們的需求，

Not only were they enthusiastic, they kept thinking

但他們表現得太積極了，他們不斷地想

they're there to help us.

有什麼可以幫助我們的。

"Well, would it help if I ..."

「嗯，如果我這樣做，可以幫到你們嗎？」

"Guys, and woman,

各位，

you've given enough.

你們給的夠多了，

We're here to help you. We need data. We need to know

我們是來幫助你們的，我們需要你們提供資料，

what you need."

我們要知道你們想要什麼。

After a half an hour, maybe, there was one guy at the far end of the table

經過一個半小時之後，有個坐在桌子另一頭的人，

who wasn't saying much.

他一直沒有說太多話，

You could see he was missing an arm.

他斷了一條手臂，

He was leaning on his other arm.

就用另一條手臂撐著。

I called down to the end, "Hey, you haven't said much.

我對著桌子另一頭說：「嘿，你沒有說什麼話耶，

If we needed this or this, what would you want?"

有沒有什麼是你需要的？」

And he said, "You know,

他說：「你知道嗎？

I'm the lucky guy at this table.

我算是這裡面幸運的了，

I lost my right arm,

我斷的是右手，

but I'm a lefty."

還好我是左撇子。」

(Laughter)

(笑聲)

So, he wouldn't say much.

所以，他沒有什麼好說的。

He had a great spirit, like all the rest of them had great spirits.

他的態度很令人敬佩，就像其他人一樣令人敬佩。

And he made a few comments.

他後來發表了一些評論，

And then the meeting ended. We said goodbye to all these guys.

然後會議就結束了。我們和這些人一一道別，

And that guy pushed himself back from the table ...

那個人則把自己從椅子上推離開桌子，

he has no legs.

我們才發現他沒有雙腳。

So, we left.

我們離開了那裡。

And I was thinking,

我那時在想，

"We didn't give them support and encouragement;

我們一點也沒有給予他們支持，也沒有鼓勵他們，

they gave it to us.

反而是他們鼓勵了我們；

They're not finished giving yet."

他們還不斷地提供我們意見，

It was astounding.

這真是太驚人了！

So, we went back.

所以，我們回到實驗室，

And I started working harder, faster.

工作得更加勤奮、更加快速。

Then we went out to Brooke Army Medical Center.

接下來我們去拜訪了布魯克軍人醫院，

And we saw lots of these kids, lots of them.

我們也看到許多年輕的士兵，

And it was astounding

他們的態度

how positive they are.

真的很令人敬佩。

So, we went back,

我們又回到了實驗室，

and we've been working harder yet.

我們又工作得更加勤奮。

We're in clinical trials,

現在我們在進行臨床實驗，

we've got five of them on people.

有五個人參與實驗，

We're screaming along.

一路走來有不斷的驚喜。

And I get a call and we go back

我接到一通電話，

to Washington.

所以我們就去了華盛頓，

We go back to Walter Reed,

回到華特里德醫院，

and a kid, literally,

那裡有一個年輕士兵，

20 some-odd days before that

在二十多天前

was blown up.

被炸傷了。

And they shipped him to Germany

他被送往德國，

and 24 hours later they shipped him from Germany

然後在24小時之後，又從德國被送回

to Walter Reed.

華特里德醫院。

And he was there,

他就在那裡，

and they said we needed to come.

他們說我們一定得來這一趟，

And I went down

所以我就去了。

and they rolled him into a room.

他們把他送進一間病房，

He's got no legs.

他失去了雙腳，

He's got no arms.

也失去了二條手臂，

He's got a small residual limb on one side.

只有一邊還有殘餘的一小截肢體。

Half of his face is gone,

他有半邊臉不見了，

but they said his vision is coming back.

但他們說他的視力正在恢復，

He had one good eye.

他還有一隻好的眼睛。

His name is Brandon Marrocco.

他的名字是布蘭登．莫洛克，

And he said,

他說：

"I need your arms,

「我需要你們的義肢，

but I need two of them."

而且我要訂二個。」

"You'll get them."

我會給你的。

This kid was from Staten Island.

這個年輕士兵來自史丹頓島，

And he said, "I had a truck,

他說：「在我從軍之前，

before I went over there,

我有一輛卡車，

and it had a stick.

是手排車，

You think I'll be able to drive it?"

你覺得我還能開嗎？」

"Sure."

當然。

And I turned around and went, "How are we going to do this?"

但我後來想：「要怎麼辦才好啊？」

(Laughter)

(笑聲)

Anyway, he was just like all the rest of them.

總之，他就像其他失去手腳的士兵一樣，

He doesn't really want a lot.

要求並不多，

He wants to help. He told me that

他也想要幫助我們，他告訴我，

he wanted to go back

他想要回去

to help his buddies.

幫忙他的好朋友。

So, I was on my way out here.

在我來這裡之前，

I was asked to stop at Texas.

有人幫我安排去了一趟德州，

There were 3,500 people,

那裡有3500人聚集在

the Veteran's Administration,

退伍軍人協會，

U.S. ... just 3,500 at this huge event

有3500人參與這場盛會，

to help the families

他們要幫助

of all the kids --

所有士兵的家庭，

some that have died, some that are

有些士兵死了，有些則像

like Brandon --

布蘭登一樣，

and they wanted me to speak.

他們要我上台致詞。

I said, "What am I going to say?

我說：「我該說些什麼？

This is not a happy thing. Look, if this happens to you,

這可不是什麼愉快的場合，如果你發生這種不幸的事，

I can give you ... This stuff is

我當然可以幫你，但是這種義肢

still not as good at the original equipment."

絕對不會比天生的手臂來得好。」

"You need to come."

「你來就是了。」

So, I went.

所以我就去了。

And, as I think you get the point,

我想你們應該猜得到，

there were a lot people there recovering.

那裡有許多人正在復原，

Some further along than others.

有些人復原得很好，

But universally, these people that had been through this

但總體來說，這些人經過了這些事後，還能保持

had astounding attitudes,

這種態度，真的很令人敬佩。

and just the fact that people care

就因為大家都很關心他們，

makes a huge difference to them.

因此讓他們變得與眾不同。

I'll shut up, except one message

我該住嘴了，但我要再談一件事，

or concern I have.

一件我擔心的事。

I don't think anybody does it intentionally,

我不認為有人會故意這麼做，

but there were people there literally talking about,

但總有人會問：

"Well, how much will they get?"

「他們會得到多少錢？」

You know, this country is involved as we've all heard,

我們早就知道這個國家

in this great healthcare debate.

針對健保制度總是爭論不休，

"Who is entitled to what?

那誰該負起責任？

Who is entitled to how much?

每個人能拿多少補助？

Who is going to pay for it?"

誰要來買單？

Those are tough questions.

這些都是很難回答的問題，

I don't have an answer to that. Not everybody

我自己也沒有答案，不是說你是這個國家的國民，

can be entitled to everything simply because you were born here.

你就有義務為每一件事負責任，

It's not possible. It would be nice

這絕對不可能。但如果我們能夠

but let's be realistic.

更實際一點會更好。

They were tough questions. There's polarized groups down there.

都是不易回答的問題，到處都有持相反意見的人，

I don't know the answers.

我不知道這些問題的答案。

There are other questions that are tough.

還有很多更難回答的問題：

"Should we be there?

我們該出兵伊拉克嗎？

How do we get out?

要怎麼進行撤軍？

What do we need to do?" There's very polarized

我們該怎麼做？這些問題絕對都有

answers to that question too,

正反二面的答案，

and I don't have any answers to that.

我也不知道該怎麼回答這些問題。

Those are political questions, economic questions,

這些是政治問題、經濟問題

strategic questions.

和策略問題，

I don't have the answer. But let me give you a simple

我沒有答案。但讓我說明

concern or maybe statement, then.

我的立場：

It is an easy answer.

答案很簡單，

I know what these kids deserve

我知道在醫療照護方面，

on the healthcare side.

這些年輕的士兵該獲得什麼樣的照護，

I was talking to one of them,

我曾和其中一位士兵聊過，

and he was really liking this arm --

他非常喜歡這種義肢，

it's way, way, way better than a plastic

那遠比一支塑膠棍子

stick with a hook on it --

外加一個鈎子好上太多了。

but there's nobody in this room that would rather have that

但在這個房間裡的人，也沒人願意用義肢

than the one you got.

代替天生的手臂。

But I was saying to him, "You know,

但我告訴他：「你知道嗎？

the first airplane

第一架飛機

went 100 feet in 1903.

在1903年時，只飛了30公尺，

Wilbur and Orville.

那是韋伯和歐威爾製造的，

But you know what? It wouldn't have made an old pigeon jealous.

就連一隻老得不能再老的鴿子，也不會羨慕這種飛機。

But now we got Eagles out there,

但現在我們有了老鷹號戰機、

F15s, even that Bald Eagle.

F15和秃鷹號戰機，

I've never seen a bird flying around at Mach 2.

我從來沒看過有哪一隻鳥可以飛得和馬赫2號一樣高，

I think eventually we'll make these things extraordinary."

我想我們最後一定能把這種義肢做得更加完美。」

And I said to that kid,

我對那年輕的士兵說：

"I'll stop when your buddies

「只要你的朋友開始

are envious of your Luke arm

羨慕你的義肢所能做到的事，

because of what it can do, and how it does it.

或是義肢的種種功能，我就能休息了。

And we'll keep working. And I'm not going to stop working

但在那之前，我會一直努力工作，

until we do that."

直到有那一天為止。」

And I think this country

我認為，我們國家

ought to continue its great debate,

應該繼續這種不同意見的交流，

whining and complaining, "I'm entitled." "You're a victim."

不管是發牢騷或是抱怨，說什麼「我會負責」「你是受害者」一類的，

And whining and complaining about what our foreign policy ought to be.

或是抱怨我們的外交政策該何去何從。

But while we have the luxury of whining and complaining about

但在我們發牢騷或抱怨著

who's paying for what and how much we get,

誰該支出這筆經費、我們會得到什麼的時候，

the people that are out there

我們是否該想想那些在外戰鬥的士兵，

giving us that great privilege of whining and complaining,

是他們讓我們享有發牢騷和抱怨的特權。

I know what they deserve:

我知道該給他們什麼，

everything humanly possible.

就是儘可能地以人道方式對待他們，

And we ought to give it to them.

我們應該提供這些義肢給他們。

(Applause)

(掌聲)