Dean Kamen: The emotion behind invention

Prevoditelj: Hrvoje Pilić Recezent: Nenad Maljković

It's not about technology,

Nije stvar u tehnologiji,

it's about people and stories.

već u ljudima i pričama.

I could show you

Mogao bih vam pokazati ono

what recently was on television

što je nedavno bilo na televiziji.

as a high quality video:

To je vrlo kvalitetan video

60 Minutes, many of you may have seen it.

iz emisije 60 Minutes, možda ste ga vidjeli.

And it was the now director of the entire piece

Upravo se sadašnji načelnik jednog dijela

of the veteran's administration --

Uprave za ratne veterane --

who, himself, had lost an arm 39 years ago

koji je i sam izgubio ruku prije 39 godina

in Vietnam --

u Vijetnamu --

who was adamantly opposed to these crazy devices

nepopustljivo protivio tim ludim napravama

that don't work.

koje ne funkcioniraju.

And it turns out that with 60 Minutes cameras rolling in the background,

Pokazalo se da je pred kamerama koje su ga snimale,

after he pretty much made his position clear on this --

nakon što je prilično jasno pokazao svoj stav o tome --

he had his hook and he had his --

imao je svoju staru protezu, kuku --

he wore this arm for less than two hours

nosio je ovakvu ruku manje od dva sata

and was able to pour himself a drink and got quite emotional over the fact

i mogao je sebi natočiti piće, pa ga je dirnula činjenica

that, quote -- his quote --

da je, citiram -- to su njegove riječi --

it's the first time he's felt like he's had an arm in 39 years.

po prvi puta u 39 godina imao osjećaj da ima ruku.

But that would sort of be jumping to the middle of the story,

Ali tako bih puno preskočio i došao na sredinu priče,

and I'm not going to show you that polished video.

pa vam neću pokazati taj ušminkani video.

I'm going to, instead, in a minute or two,

Umjesto toga, za koji trenutak ću vam

show you an early, crude video

prikazati ranu, sirovu snimku

because I think it's

jer mislim da je to

a better way to tell a story.

bolji način da ispričam tu priču.

A few years ago I was visited by

Prije nekoliko godina posjetio me

the guy that runs DARPA,

čovjek koji upravlja vojnom agencijom DARPA,

the people that fund all the advanced technologies

oni financiraju napredne tehnologije s kojima

that businesses and universities probably wouldn't take the risk of doing.

tvrtke i sveučilišta vjerojatno ne bi riskirali.

They have a particular interest in ones that will help our soldiers.

Posebno su zainteresirani za sve što može pomoći našim vojnicima.

I get this sort of unrequested -- by me anyway -- visit,

Došli su mi u nezatraženi posjet, što se mene tiče,

and sitting in my conference room is a very senior surgeon

i sad u mojoj sobi za sastanke sjedi vrlo iskusan

from the military

vojni kirurg

and the guy that runs DARPA.

i čovjek koji upravlja DARPA-om.

They proceed to tell me a story which comes down

Ispričali su mi priču koja se svodi

to basically the following. We have used such advanced technologies

praktički na sljedeće. Koristimo vrlo napredne tehnologije

now and made them available

i učinili smo ih dostupnima

in the most remote places that we put soldiers:

i u najzabačenijim mjestima kamo šaljemo svoje vojnike:

hills of Afghanistan, Iraq ...

brdima Afganistana, Iraka...

They were quite proud of the fact that

Bili su prilično ponosni na činjenicu da

you know, before the dust clears,

već i prije nego se prašina raščisti,

if some soldier has been hurt

ako je neki vojnik ranjen,

they will have collected him or her, they will have brought him back,

da su u stanju njega ili nju pokupiti, vratiti u bazu,

they will be getting world-class triage emergency care

i pružiti vrhunsku hitnu medicinsku pomoć

faster than you and I would be getting it if we were hurt

brže nego što bi je vi ili ja dobili kad bi se ozlijedili

in a car accident in a major city in the United States.

u automobilskoj nesreći u većem gradu SAD-a.

That's the good news.

To je dobra vijest.

The bad news is if they've collected this person

Loša vijest je da, ako su pokupili tu osobu

and he or she is missing an arm or leg,

a on ili ona ostali su bez ruke ili noge,

part of the face, it's probably not coming back.

dijela lica, to im vjerojatno nećemo vratiti.

So, they started giving me the statistics on how many of these kids had lost an arm.

Počeli su mi čitati statistike o tome koliko je mladih izgubilo ruku.

And then the surgeon pointed out, with a lot of anger,

I tada je kirurg ljutito naglasio:

he said, "Why is it? At the end of the Civil War,

"Zašto je to tako? Na kraju Građanskog rata,

they were shooting each other with muskets. If somebody lost an arm,

pucali su jedni na druge sa mušketama. Kad bi netko izgubio ruku,

we gave them a wooden stick with a hook on it.

dali bismo mu drvenu palicu sa kukom.

Now we've got F18s and F22s,

Sada imamo mlaznjake F18 i F22,

and if somebody loses an arm,

a kada netko izgubi ruku,

we give them a plastic stick with a hook on it."

damo mu plastičnu palicu sa kukom."

And they basically said, "This is unacceptable,"

Zapravo su mi rekli: "Ovo je neprihvatljivo."

and then the punchline: "So, Dean,

i onda poanta: "Dakle, Dean, došli smo

we're here because you make medical stuff.

jer ti smišljaš medicinska pomagala.

You're going to give us an arm."

Ti ćeš nam napraviti ruku."

And I was waiting for the 500 pages of bureaucracy,

Očekivao sam 500 stranica,

paperwork and DODs.

administracije i papirologije.

No, the guy says,

Ali ne, čovjek je rekao,

"We're going to bring a guy into this conference room,

"Dovest ćemo čovjeka u ovu sobu za sastanke,

and wearing the arm you're going to give us,

koji će nositi ruku koju ćeš nam ti izraditi,

he or she is going to pick up a raisin or a grape

on ili ona će podignuti grožđicu ili bobu grožđa

off this table.

s ovog stola.

If it's the grape, they won't break it."

Ako je boba grožđa, neće je zgnječiti."

Great he needs efferent, afferent, haptic response sensors.

Super, trebamo eferentne, aferentne, haptičke odzivne senzore.

"If it's the raisin, they won't drop it."

"Ako je grožđica, neće je ispustiti."

So he wants fine motor control: flex at the wrist,

Znači on želi preciznu motoričku kontrolu, savitljivost u zglobu,

flex at the elbow, abduct and flex at the shoulder.

savitljivost u laktu, pomicanje i pregibanje ramena.

Either way they were going to eat it.

U svakom slučaju će je pojesti.

"Oh, by the way Dean. It's going to fit on a 50th percentile female frame --

"I, Dean, usput. Pristajat će na 50 percentila ženskih tijela --

namely 32 inches from the long finger --

otprilike 80 centimetara od srednjeg prsta --

and weigh less than nine pounds."

i težit će manje od četiri kilograma."

50th percentile female frame.

50 percentila ženskih tijela.

"And it's going to be completely self contained including all its power."

"I bit će u potpunosti integrirana, uključujući i pogon."

So, they finished that. And I, as you can tell,

Tako su zaključili. Ja sam, kao što vidite,

am a bashful guy.

dosta stidljiv tip.

I told them they're nuts.

Rekao sam im da su ludi.

(Laughter)

(Smijeh)

They've been watching too much "Terminator."

Previše su se nagledali "Terminatora."

(Laughter)

(Smijeh)

Then, the surgeon says to me,

Kirurg mi je na to odgovorio,

"Dean, you need to know

"Dean, moraš znati

more than two dozen of these kids have come back

da se tridesetak tih mladih ljudi

bilateral."

vratilo bez obje ruke."

Now, I cannot imagine --

Ja si ne mogu ni zamisliti --

I'm sorry, you may have a better

žao mi je, vi možda imate bolju

imagination than I do --

maštu nego ja --

I can't imagine losing my arm,

Ja ne mogu zamisliti da izgubim ruku,

and typically at 22 years old.

i to u dobi od 22 godine.

But compared to that, losing two?

Ali u usporedbi s tim, izgubiti obje?

Seems like that would be an inconvenience.

Jedna bi bila samo neugodnost.

Anyway, I went home that night. I thought about it.

Uglavnom, otišao sam kući te noći. Razmišljao sam svemu.

I literally could not sleep

Doslovno nisam mogao zaspati,

thinking about, "I wonder how you'd roll over

razmišljao sam... "kako bih se okrenuo

with no shoulders."

da nemam ramena."

So, I decided we've got to do this.

Stoga sam odlučio da to moramo napraviti.

And trust me, I've got a day job, I've got a lot of day jobs.

Vjerujte mi, ja imam redovni posao, imam više redovnih poslova.

Most of my day job keeps me busy

Imam pune ruke posla

funding my fantasies like FIRST and water and power ....

ostvarajući maštarije poput FIRST-a i vode i struje...

And I've got a lot of day jobs.

Imam više redovnih poslova.

But I figured I gotta do this.

Ali odlučio sam da ovo moram učiniti.

Did a little investigation,

Malo sam istraživao,

went down to Washington, told them

otišao do Washingtona, rekao im da i dalje

I still think they're nuts but we're going to do it.

mislim da su ludi, ali da ćemo to učiniti.

And I told them I'd build them an arm.

I rekao sam im da ću im izraditi ruku.

I told them it would probably take five years to get through the FDA,

Rekao sam im da će vjerojatno trajati pet godina da dobije odobrenje od FDA-a,

and probably 10 years to be reasonably functional.

i vjerojatno 10 godina da bude razmjerno funkcionalna.

Look what it takes to make things like iPods.

Koliko samo treba da se naprave stvari poput iPodova.

"Great," he said, "You got two years."

"Odlično," kaže on, " Imaš dvije godine."

(Laughter)

(Smijeh)

I said, "I'll tell you what. I'll build you an arm

Rekoh, "Znate što? Napraviti ću vam ruku

that's under nine pounds

koja teži manje od četiri kilograma

that has all that capability in one year.

i koja ima sve mogućnosti za godinu dana.

It will take the other nine to make it functional and useful."

Trebat će nam još devet da postane upotrebljiva i korisna."

We sort of agreed to disagree.

Recimo da smo se složili da se ne slažemo.

I went back and I started putting a team together,

Vratio sam se natrag i počeo okupljati tim,

the best guys I could find with a passion to do this.

najbolje ljude koje sam mogao naći sa strašću da ovo naprave.

At the end of exactly one year

Nakon točno godinu dana

we had a device with 14 degrees of freedom,

imali smo napravu sa 14 stupnjeva slobode,

all the sensors, all the microprocessors,

svim senzorima, svim mikroprocesorima,

all the stuff inside.

svim stvarima unutra.

I could show you it with a cosmesis on it

Ako vam je pokažem s kozmetičkom navlakom,

that's so real it's eerie, but then you wouldn't see

koja je toliko stvarna da je jezivo, ne biste vidjeli

all this cool stuff.

sve te super stvari.

I then thought it would be years

Tada sam mislio da će biti potrebne godine

before we'd be able to make it really, really useful.

prije nego ju učinimo stvarno, stvarno korisnom.

It turned out, as I think you could see

Ispostavilo se, kao što možete vidjeti

in Aimee's capabilities and attitudes,

u Aimeenim sposobnostima i stavovima,

people with a desire to do something

da su ljudi sa željom da učine nešto

are quite remarkable and nature is quite adaptable.

zbilja izvanredni, a priroda prilično prilagodljiva.

Anyway, with less than 10 hours of use,

U svakom slučaju, sa manje od 10 sati upotrebe,

two guys -- one that's bilateral.

dva momka -- jedan bez obje ruke.

He's literally, he's got no shoulder on one side,

On doslovno na jednoj strani nema rame,

and he's high trans-humeral on the other.

a na drugoj strani nema ruku visoko iznad lakta.

And that's Chuck and Randy together,

To su Chuck and Randy zajedno,

after 10 hours -- were playing in our office.

nakon 10 sati -- igraju se u našem uredu.

And we took some pretty cruddy home movies.

Snimili smo prilično sirove kućne snimke.

At the end of the one I'm going to show, it's only about a minute

Na kraju jedne koju ću začas pokazati,

and a couple of seconds long,

traje nešto više od minute,

Chuck does something that to this day I'm jealous of,

Chuck čini nešto na što sam i dan danas ljubomoran,

I can't do it.

Ja to ne mogu učiniti.

He picks up a spoon, picks it up,

On podiže žlicu, podigne ju,

scoops out some Shredded Wheat and milk,

zagrabi malo zobenih pahuljica i mlijeka,

holds the spoon level

držeći ravno žlicu

as he translates it, moving all these joints simultaneously,

primiče je, istovremenim pokretanjem svih zglobova zajedno,

to his mouth, and he doesn't drop any milk.

svojim ustima, i ne prolije niti kap mlijeka.

(Laughter)

(Smijeh)

I cannot do that.

Ja to ne mogu.

(Laughter)

(Smijeh)

His wife was standing behind me.

Njegova žena je stajala iza mene.

She's standing behind me at the time

Stoji iza mene dok on to radi

and she says, "Dean,

i kaže: "Dean,

Chuck hasn't fed himself in 19 years.

Chuck nije sam stavio hranu u usta već 19 godina.

So, you've got a choice:

Zato biraj:

We keep the arm, or you keep Chuck."

ili mi dobijemo ruku, ili ti dobiješ Chucka."

(Laughter) (Applause)

(Smijeh) (Pljesak)

So, can we see that?

Evo, možemo to vidjeti?

This is Chuck showing simultaneous control

Ovdje Chuck pokazuje istovremenu kontrolu

of all the joints.

svih zglobova.

He's punching our controls guy. The guy behind him

Udara našeg tehničara. Čovjek iza njega

is our engineer/surgeon,

je naš inženjer / kirurg,

which is a convenient guy to have around.

kojega je zgodno imati uz sebe.

There's Randy, these guys are passing a rubber

Eno Randyja, ovi ljudi si dodaju

little puck between them.

mali gumeni pak.

And just as in the spirit of FIRST,

I baš u duhu FIRST-a,

gracious professionalism, they are quite proud of this,

ljupkog profesionalizma, prilično su ponosni zbog toga,

so they decide to share a drink.

stoga odluče podijeliti piće.

This is a non-trivial thing to do, by the way.

Ovo nije lako učiniti, samo da znate.

Imagine doing that with a wooden stick and a hook on the end of it,

Zamislite to raditi sa drvenom palicom i kukom na kraju nje,

doing either of those.

bilo što od toga.

Now Chuck is doing something quite extraordinary,

Sada Chuck čini nešto stvarno izuzetno,

at least for my limited physical skill.

barem za moje ograničene fizičke vještine.

And now he's going to do what DARPA asked me for.

I sada će učiniti ono što me DARPA zatražila.

He's going to pick up a grape -- he didn't drop it,

On će podignuti bobu grožđa - nije ju ispustio,

he didn't break it --

nije ju zgnječio --

and he's going to eat it.

i sad će ju pojesti.

So, that's where we were

Znači, tu smo bili

at the end of about 15 months.

nakon otprilike 15 mjeseci.

(Applause)

(Pljesak)

But, as I've learned from Richard,

Ali, kao što mi je Richard rekao,

the technology, the processors, the sensors, the motors,

tehnologija, procesori, senzori, motori...

is not the story.

nisu priča.

I hadn't dealt with this kind of problem

Nisam prije imao posla s ovakvom vrstom problema

or frankly, this whole segment

ili iskreno, cijelim segmentom

of the medical world.

medicinskog svijeta.

I'll give you some astounding things that have happened

Ispričat ću vam nešto zadivljujuće što se dogodilo

as we started this.

kada smo započeli s ovime.

After we were pretty much convinced we had a good design,

Nakon što smo bili prilično uvjereni da imamo dobar dizajn,

and we'd have to make all the standard engineering trade-offs you always make --

i da ćemo morati učiniti sve standardne inženjerske kompromise koje uvijek činite --

you can always get three out of four of anything you want;

uvijek možete dobiti tri od četiri onoga što želite:

the weight, the size, the cost, the functionality --

težinu, veličinu, trošak, funkcionalnost --

I put a bunch of guys in my plane

Ukrcao sam skupinu ljudi na moj avion

and I said, "We're flying down to Walter Reed, and we're going talk to these kids,

i rekao, "Letimo u vojnu bolnicu Walter Reed razgovarati s tim mladićima,

because frankly it doesn't matter whether we like this arm.

jer zapravo nije važno sviđa li se nama ova ruka,

It doesn't matter whether the

nije važno ni sviđa li se

Department of Defense likes this arm."

Ministarstvu obrane."

When I told them that they weren't entirely enthusiastic,

Kada sam im to rekao nisu bili baš oduševljeni,

but I told them, "It really doesn't matter what their opinion is.

ali rekoh im, "Zaista nije važno koje je njihovo mišljenje.

There is only one opinion that matters,

Važno je samo jedno mišljenje,

the kids that are either going to use it or not."

tih mladih ljudi koji će ju koristiti ili neće."

I told a bunch of my engineers, "Look we're going to walk into Walter Reed,

Rekoh svojim okupljenim inženjerima, "Ući ćemo u Walter Reed,

and you're going to see people, lots of them,

sastat ćete se s ljudima, mnogo njih,

missing major body parts.

kojima nedostaju važni dijelovi tijela.

They're probably going to be angry, depressed, frustrated.

Vjerojatno će biti ljuti, deprimirani, frustrirani.

We're probably going to have to give them support, encouragement.

Vjerojatno ćemo im morati dati podršku, ohrabrenje.

But we've got to extract from them

Ali moramo izvući iz njih

enough information to make sure we're doing the right thing."

dovoljno informacija da budemo sigurni kako izrađujemo pravu stvar."

We walked into Walter Reed and I could not have been more wrong.

Ušetali smo u Walter Reed i ja nisam mogao biti više u krivu.

We did see a bunch of people,

Jesmo se sastali s puno ljudi,

a lot of them missing a lot of body parts,

mnogi nisu imali razne dijelove tijela,

and parts they had left were burned;

a dijelovi koji su preostali bili su opečeni;

half a face gone, an ear burned off.

bez polovice lica, izgorjelog uha.

They were sitting at a table. They were brought together for us.

Sjedili su za stolom, okupili su ih za nas.

And we started asking them all questions.

Počeli smo im postavljati pitanja.

"Look," I'd say to them, "We're not quite as good as nature yet.

Rekao bih im, "Nismo još dobri kao priroda.

I could give you fine motor control,

Mogao bih vam dati preciznu motoričku kontrolu,

or I could let you curl 40 pounds;

ili bih vam mogao omogućiti podizanje 18 kilograma;

I probably can't do both.

vjerojatno ne mogu oboje.

I can give you fast control

Mogu vam dati brzu kontrolu

with low reduction ratios in these gears,

sa malim smanjenjem omjera u tim brzinama,

or I can give you power;

ili vam mogu dati snagu;

I can't give you both.

ne mogu vam dati oboje.

And we were trying to get them to all help us

Nastojali smo ih navesti da nam pomognu

know what to give them.

saznati što da im damo.

Not only were they enthusiastic, they kept thinking

Ne da su bili entuzijastični, bili su uvjereni

they're there to help us.

da su oni tamo da bi pomogli nama.

"Well, would it help if I ..."

"Pa, bi li pomoglo kada bih ja ..."

"Guys, and woman,

"Momci i žene,

you've given enough.

dali ste dovoljno.

We're here to help you. We need data. We need to know

Mi smo tu da bi pomogli vama. Mi trebamo podatke.

what you need."

Moramo doznati što vi trebate."

After a half an hour, maybe, there was one guy at the far end of the table

Nakon kojih pola sata jedan čovjek na drugom kraju stola

who wasn't saying much.

koji nije puno pričao.

You could see he was missing an arm.

Vidjelo se da mu nedostaje ruka.

He was leaning on his other arm.

Naslanjao se na svoju drugu ruku.

I called down to the end, "Hey, you haven't said much.

Pozvao sam prema kraju, "Hej, vi niste rekli mnogo.

If we needed this or this, what would you want?"

Ako bi trebali ovo ili ovo, što biste htjeli?"

And he said, "You know,

I on je rekao, "Znate,

I'm the lucky guy at this table.

ja sam sretnik za ovim stolom.

I lost my right arm,

Izgubio sam desnu ruku,

but I'm a lefty."

a ljevak sam."

(Laughter)

(Smijeh)

So, he wouldn't say much.

Nije pričao puno.

He had a great spirit, like all the rest of them had great spirits.

Imao je sjajan duh, a i svi ostali imali su sjajan duh.

And he made a few comments.

Dao je par komentara.

And then the meeting ended. We said goodbye to all these guys.

Zatim je sastanak završio. Rekli smo zbogom svim tim momcima.

And that guy pushed himself back from the table ...

I taj čovjek se odgurnuo od stola...

he has no legs.

bio je bez nogu.

So, we left.

Dakle, otišli smo.

And I was thinking,

Razmišljao sam.

"We didn't give them support and encouragement;

"Nismo mi njima dali podršku i ohrabrenje;

they gave it to us.

oni su je dali nama.

They're not finished giving yet."

Oni još nisu gotovi s davanjem."

It was astounding.

Bilo je zadivljujuće.

So, we went back.

Vratili smo se natrag,

And I started working harder, faster.

a ja sam počeo raditi više i brže.

Then we went out to Brooke Army Medical Center.

Zatim smo otišli u Vojni medicinski centar Brooke.

And we saw lots of these kids, lots of them.

Tamo smo sreli puno tih mladića, mnogo njih.

And it was astounding

Bilo je zadivljujuće

how positive they are.

koliko su pozitivni.

So, we went back,

Vratili smo se natrag,

and we've been working harder yet.

i radili još vrijednije.

We're in clinical trials,

U kliničkim smo ispitivanjima,

we've got five of them on people.

pet takvih imali smo na korisnicima.

We're screaming along.

Stalno smo uzbuđeni.

And I get a call and we go back

Opet su nas pozvali

to Washington.

u Washington.

We go back to Walter Reed,

Otišli smo natrag u Walter Reed,

and a kid, literally,

tamo je bio mladić,

20 some-odd days before that

koji je 20-ak dana prije susreta

was blown up.

doslovno bio raznesen.

And they shipped him to Germany

Poslali su ga u Njemačku

and 24 hours later they shipped him from Germany

i u roku od 24 sata iz Njemačke je stigao

to Walter Reed.

u Walter Reed.

And he was there,

I... bio je tamo,

and they said we needed to come.

i rekli su da moramo doći.

And I went down

Ja sam otišao,

and they rolled him into a room.

dovezli su ga u sobu.

He's got no legs.

Nije imao nogu.

He's got no arms.

Nije imao ruku.

He's got a small residual limb on one side.

Imao je maleni ostatak uda na jednoj strani.

Half of his face is gone,

Polovica lica mu je nestala,

but they said his vision is coming back.

ali rekli su da mu se vid vraća.

He had one good eye.

Imao je jedno zdravo oko.

His name is Brandon Marrocco.

Ime mu je Brandon Marrocco.

And he said,

Rekao mi je,

"I need your arms,

"Trebam vaše ruke,

but I need two of them."

ali trebam ih dvije."

"You'll get them."

"Dobit ćeš ih."

This kid was from Staten Island.

Taj mladić je bio sa Staten Island-a.

And he said, "I had a truck,

Rekao mi je, "Imao sam kamionet,

before I went over there,

prije nego sam otišao onamo,

and it had a stick.

s ručnim mjenjačem.

You think I'll be able to drive it?"

Mislite da ću ga moći voziti?"

"Sure."

"Naravno."

And I turned around and went, "How are we going to do this?"

Pitao sam se dok sam odlazio, "Kako ćemo to učiniti?"

(Laughter)

(Smijeh)

Anyway, he was just like all the rest of them.

U svakom slučaju, on je bio poput ostalih.

He doesn't really want a lot.

On zbilja ne traži puno.

He wants to help. He told me that

Želi pomoći. Rekao mi je da

he wanted to go back

želi otići natrag

to help his buddies.

pomoći svojim prijateljima.

So, I was on my way out here.

Na putu ovamo

I was asked to stop at Texas.

pozvali su me da svratim u Texas.

There were 3,500 people,

Tamo je bilo 3.500 ljudi...

the Veteran's Administration,

Uprava za ratne veterane SAD

U.S. ... just 3,500 at this huge event

okupila je 3.500 ljudi na tom golemom događaju

to help the families

kako bi pomogli obiteljima

of all the kids --

svih tih mladića --

some that have died, some that are

neki od njih su umrli, neki su

like Brandon --

prošli kao Brandon --

and they wanted me to speak.

i htjeli su da im govorim.

I said, "What am I going to say?

Rekao sam, "Što da kažem?

This is not a happy thing. Look, if this happens to you,

To nisu sretne okolnosti. Ako vam se dogodi

I can give you ... This stuff is

ovako nešto, dat ću vam... ovu stvar koja

still not as good at the original equipment."

još nije dobra kao originalna oprema."

"You need to come."

"Morate doći."

So, I went.

I tako sam otišao.

And, as I think you get the point,

Mislim da ste shvatili bit,

there were a lot people there recovering.

tamo je bilo mnogo ljudi u oporavku.

Some further along than others.

Neki duže od ostalih.

But universally, these people that had been through this

Ali općenito, ti ljudi koji su prošli kroz sve to

had astounding attitudes,

imali su zadivljujuće stavove,

and just the fact that people care

i sama činjenica da ljudi mare

makes a huge difference to them.

jako im puno znači.

I'll shut up, except one message

Završit ću, ali uz jednu poruku

or concern I have.

ili brigu koju imam.

I don't think anybody does it intentionally,

Mislim da nitko to ne čini namjerno,

but there were people there literally talking about,

ali tamo su bili ljudi koji su doslovno pitali,

"Well, how much will they get?"

"Dakle, koliko će oni dobiti?"

You know, this country is involved as we've all heard,

U ovoj se zemlji vodi, kao što svi znamo,

in this great healthcare debate.

velika rasprava o zdravstvenom osiguranju.

"Who is entitled to what?

"Tko ima pravo na što?

Who is entitled to how much?

Tko ima pravo na koliko?

Who is going to pay for it?"

Tko će to sve platiti?"

Those are tough questions.

To su teška pitanja.

I don't have an answer to that. Not everybody

Nemam odgovor na njih. Ne može svatko

can be entitled to everything simply because you were born here.

imati pravo na sve samo zato jer se rodio ovdje.

It's not possible. It would be nice

To nije moguće. Bilo bi lijepo, ali

but let's be realistic.

budimo realni.

They were tough questions. There's polarized groups down there.

To su teška pitanja. Mišljenja su suprotstavljena.

I don't know the answers.

Ja ne znam odgovore.

There are other questions that are tough.

Postoje i druga pitanja koja su teška.

"Should we be there?

"Trebamo li biti tamo?

How do we get out?

Kako da se izvučemo?

What do we need to do?" There's very polarized

Što trebamo učiniti?" Postoje iznimno suprostavljeni

answers to that question too,

odgovori i na ta pitanja,

and I don't have any answers to that.

a ja nemam odgovore ni na njih.

Those are political questions, economic questions,

To su politička pitanja, ekonomska pitanja,

strategic questions.

strateška pitanja.

I don't have the answer. But let me give you a simple

Ja nemam odgovore. Ali dopustite da vam iznesem

concern or maybe statement, then.

jednostavan pogled ili možda izjavu.

It is an easy answer.

Odgovor je jednostavan.

I know what these kids deserve

Znam što ovi klinci zaslužuju

on the healthcare side.

što se tiče zdravstvene zaštite.

I was talking to one of them,

Razgovarao sam sa jednim od njih,

and he was really liking this arm --

njemu se zbilja sviđala ta ruka --

it's way, way, way better than a plastic

bila je puno, puno, puno bolja nego

stick with a hook on it --

plastična palica s kukom --

but there's nobody in this room that would rather have that

ali ovdje nema nikoga tko bi radije imao ovu

than the one you got.

nego onu koju već ima.

But I was saying to him, "You know,

Rekao sam mu, "Znaš,

the first airplane

prvi avion je 1903.

went 100 feet in 1903.

preletio 30-ak metara.

Wilbur and Orville.

Wilbur i Orville.

But you know what? It wouldn't have made an old pigeon jealous.

Ali znaš što? Ni stari golub ne bi bio ljubomoran na taj let.

But now we got Eagles out there,

Ali sada imamo Eagleove,

F15s, even that Bald Eagle.

mlaznjake F15, čak i taj Bald Eagle.

I've never seen a bird flying around at Mach 2.

Nikada nisam vidio pticu da leti dvostrukom brzinom zvuka.

I think eventually we'll make these things extraordinary."

S vremenom ćemo i ove stvari učiniti izvanrednima."

And I said to that kid,

Rekao sam tom mladiću,

"I'll stop when your buddies

"Prestat ću kada ti prijatelji

are envious of your Luke arm

budu zavidjeli na umjetnoj ruci

because of what it can do, and how it does it.

zbog toga što sve može, i kako to čini.

And we'll keep working. And I'm not going to stop working

Nastavit ćemo raditi. Neću prestati raditi

until we do that."

dok to ne postignemo."

And I think this country

Mislim da ova zemlja

ought to continue its great debate,

treba nastaviti svoju veliku debatu,

whining and complaining, "I'm entitled." "You're a victim."

jadikovati i prigovarati, "Ja imam pravo". "Ti si žrtva."

And whining and complaining about what our foreign policy ought to be.

I jadikovati i prigovarati o tome kakva bi naša vanjska politika trebala biti.

But while we have the luxury of whining and complaining about

Ali dok mi imamo luksuz jadikovanja i prigovaranja o tome

who's paying for what and how much we get,

tko plaća za što i koliko dobivamo,

the people that are out there

ljudi koji su tamo i omogućuju nam

giving us that great privilege of whining and complaining,

da možemo jadikovati i prigovarati,

I know what they deserve:

znam što oni zaslužuju:

everything humanly possible.

sve što je u našim mogućnostima.

And we ought to give it to them.

I mi im to trebamo dati.

(Applause)

(Pljesak)