Garik Israelian: What's inside a star?

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譯者: Joan Liu 審譯者: Shelley Krishna Tsang
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I have a very difficult task.
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我有一個困難的任務。
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I'm a spectroscopist.
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我是個光譜學家。
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I have to talk about astronomy without showing you
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我要講天文學可是我不要給你們看
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any single image of nebulae or galaxies, etc.
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任何一張有星雲或銀河的圖片
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because my job is spectroscopy.
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因為我的工作是光譜學
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I never deal with images.
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我從來不看實際圖像。
00:35
But I'll try to convince you
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可是我要試著說服你們
00:37
that spectroscopy is actually something which can
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光譜學圖片是真的能夠
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change this world.
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改變世界的。
00:42
Spectroscopy can probably answer the question,
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光譜學或許可以回答下面這樣的問題:
00:45
"Is there anybody out there?"
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「真的有外星人嗎?」
00:47
Are we alone? SETI.
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是只有我們嗎?SETI(尋找外太空星球智慧生命計畫)
00:49
It's not very fun to do spectroscopy.
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做光譜學不是很有趣。
00:52
One of my colleagues in Bulgaria,
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我一個在保加利亞的同事
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Nevena Markova, spent about 20 years
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Naviana Markova花了大約二十年的時間
00:56
studying these profiles.
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研究這些資料。
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And she published 42 articles
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她發表了42篇文章
01:01
just dedicated to the subject.
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就只討論這個主題。
01:03
Can you imagine? Day and night, thinking,
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你可以想像嗎?二十年來日以繼夜地思考、
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observing, the same star for 20 years
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觀察同樣的星星,
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is incredible.
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太不可思議了。
01:10
But we are crazy. We do these things.
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可是我們是瘋狂的。我們做這樣的事情。
01:12
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
01:14
And I'm not that far.
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我還沒那麼瘋狂。
01:16
I spent about eight months working on these profiles.
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我花了八個月研究這些資料。
01:19
Because I've noticed
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因為我發現
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a very small symmetry
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一個很小的對稱性
01:23
in the profile of one of the planet host stars.
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在主恆星的資料裡。
01:25
And I thought, well maybe there is Lithium-6 in this star,
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然後我想,或許這個星星含有鋰6(Lithium-6),
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which is an indication that this star
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這暗示著這個星星
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has swallowed a planet.
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可能曾經吞噬過另一個星球。
01:33
Because apparently you can't have this fragile isotope
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因為顯然的像鋰6(Lithium-6)這樣不穩定的同位素
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of Lithium-6 in the atmospheres of sun-like stars.
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不可能存在於恆星的環境中。
01:40
But you have it in planets and asteroids.
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但是在星球和小行星中都含有這個東西。
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So if you engulf planet or large number of asteroids,
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所以如果吞噬了行星和很多個小行星,
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you will have this Lithium-6 isotope
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那麼就會有鋰6(Lithium-6)這個同位素
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in the spectrum of the star.
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在行星的光譜中。
01:54
So I invested more than eight months
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所以我花了超過八個月的時間
01:58
just studying the profile of this star.
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就是來研究這個星星資料中的鋰線。
02:00
And actually it's amazing,
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而且事實上是非常驚人的,
02:02
because I got phone calls from many reporters asking,
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因為我接到很多記者的電話問我
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"Have you actually seen the planet going into a star?"
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「你真的有看到一個行星進入一個星星嗎?」
02:07
Because they thought that if you are having a telescope,
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因為他們以為可以有一個望遠鏡
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you are an astronomer so what you are doing
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你是天文學家而你做的事情
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is actually looking in a telescope.
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就是透過望遠鏡看。
02:15
And you might have seen the planet going into a star.
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然後你有可能有看到一個行星進入一個星星。
02:19
And I was saying, "No, excuse me.
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然後我會說:「不,對不起。
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What I see is this one."
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我看到的是這個。」
02:23
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
02:24
It's just incredible. Because nobody understood really.
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這是很不可思議的。因為沒有人真正了解。
02:27
I bet that there were very few people
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我賭只有非常少數的人
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who really understood what I'm talking about.
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真正知道我在講什麼。
02:32
Because this is the indication that the planet went into the star.
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因為這正是代表著一個行星進入一個星星。
02:36
It's amazing.
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這是驚人的。
02:39
The power of spectroscopy
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光譜學的能耐
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was actually realized
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事實上是在1973年
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by Pink Floyd already in 1973.
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被Pink Floyd發現的。
02:47
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
02:48
Because they actually said that
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因為他們真的曾經說過
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you can get any color you like
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你可以在光譜中得到
02:53
in a spectrum.
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任何你想要的顏色。
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And all you need is time and money
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你需要的只是時間和金錢
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to make your spectrograph.
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來製作你的光譜。
02:59
This is the number one high resolution,
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這是個這個星球上解析度最高、
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most precise spectrograph on this planet, called HARPS,
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最精準的光譜儀器,叫做HARPS,
03:05
which is actually used to detect
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是用來偵測
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extrasolar planets and sound waves
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外太陽系行星和星星大氣層中
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in the atmospheres of stars.
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的聲波。
03:11
How we get spectra?
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我們怎麼得到光譜呢?
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I'm sure most of you know from school physics
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我想你們從學校教得物理得知
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that it's basically splitting a white light
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事實上是把白光
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into colors.
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分成其他顏色。
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And if you have a liquid hot mass,
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而且如果你有液態熱體,
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it will produce something which we call a continuous spectrum.
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他會產生連續光譜。
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A hot gas is producing emission lines only,
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熱氣只釋放出線條,
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no continuum.
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不會連續。
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And if you place a cool gas in front of a
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如果你把冷氣團放在
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hot source,
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熱源前面,
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you will see certain patterns
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你會看到特定的圖樣,
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which we call absorption lines.
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我們稱為吸收光譜。
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Which is used actually to identify chemical elements
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這就是我們鑑定冷質中
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in a cool matter,
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化學組成的方法,
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which is absorbing exactly at those frequencies.
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就是吸收一樣的頻率。
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Now, what we can do with the spectra?
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現在,光譜能做什麼呢?
03:56
We can actually study line-of-sight velocities
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我們可以研究天體的
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of cosmic objects.
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視相速度。
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And we can also study chemical composition
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我們也可以研究星星、星系、星雲
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and physical parameters of stars,
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的化學組成
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galaxies, nebulae.
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及物理參數。
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A star is the most simple object.
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星星是做簡單的物體。
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In the core, we have thermonuclear reactions going on,
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在中心有一個熱核能反應
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creating chemical elements.
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製造化學元素。
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And we have a cool atmosphere.
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而我們有一個涼的大氣層。
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It's cool for me.
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這對我來說是涼的。
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Cool in my terms is three or four or five thousand degrees.
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涼在我的定義中是三或四或五千度。
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My colleagues in infra-red astronomy
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我的同事研究紅外線天文學
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call minus 200 Kelvin is cool for them.
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他說對他們來說負兩百凱爾文是涼。
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But you know, everything is relative.
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但是你們知道,所有事情都是相對的。
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So for me 5,000 degrees is pretty cool.
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對我來說,五千度是蠻涼的。
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(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
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This is the spectrum of the Sun --
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這是太陽的光譜。
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24,000 spectral lines,
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兩萬四千條光譜線
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and about 15 percent of these lines is not yet identified.
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而且大約百分之十五的線還沒被鑑定出來。
04:47
It is amazing. So we are in the 21st century,
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這是很驚人的。我們在二十一世紀,
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and we still cannot properly understand
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但我們仍然沒有辦法正確了解
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the spectrum of the sun.
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太陽的光譜。
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Sometimes we have to deal with
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有時候我們必須從
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just one tiny, weak spectral line
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一條又小又微弱的光譜線中
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to measure the composition of that chemical element in the atmosphere.
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找出氣層中的化學成分組成。
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For instance, you see the spectral line of the gold
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譬如說你看到金的光譜線
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is the only spectral line in the spectrum of the Sun.
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是太陽光譜裡面唯一的一條線。
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And we use this weak feature
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我們就用這個微薄的特色
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to measure the composition
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來測量太陽大氣層中
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of gold in the atmosphere of the Sun.
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金的含量。
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And now this is a work in progress.
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現在這是個正在進行的研究。
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We have been dealing with a similarly very weak feature,
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我們在研究鋨的時候
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which belongs to osmium.
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也同樣面對類似的微弱信號。
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It's a heavy element produced in thermonuclear
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鋨是一個重金屬元素
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explosions of supernovae.
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在超級新星的熱合爆炸中產生。
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It's the only place where you can produce, actually, osmium.
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事實上這是唯一可以產生鋨的狀況。
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Just comparing the composition of osmium
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單單只是比較其中一個主行星
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in one of the planet host stars,
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的鋨成分,
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we want to understand why there is so much
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我們想要了解為什麼
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of this element.
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有這麼多這種元素。
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Perhaps we even think that maybe
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或許我們更會想
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supernova explosions trigger formations of planets and stars.
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或許超級新星的爆炸會導致行星及星星的誕生。
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It can be an indication.
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這有可能是個暗示。
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The other day, my colleague from Berkeley,
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那天我在柏克萊的同事
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Gibor Basri, emailed me
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Gibor Basri用電郵傳了
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a very interesting spectrum,
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一張非常有趣的光譜圖給我,
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asking me, "Can you have a look at this?"
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問我:「你可以看看這個嗎?」
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And I couldn't sleep, next two weeks,
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然後我接下來兩個禮拜都沒有睡覺,
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when I saw the huge amount of oxygen
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當我看到有大量的氧氣
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and other elements in the spectrum of the stars.
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和其他元素出現在星星的光譜中,
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I knew that there is nothing like that observed in the galaxy.
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我知道沒有其他星系跟這個一樣。
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It was incredible. The only conclusion we could make from this
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這是非常驚人的。我們唯一可以從中得到的
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is clear evidence that there was a supernova explosion
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確切結論是這代表著在這個系統中曾經有個
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in this system, which polluted the atmosphere
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超級新星爆炸,且汙染了這個星星的
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of this star.
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大氣層。
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And later a black hole was formed
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然後在這二原體系下
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in a binary system,
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一個黑洞產生了,
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which is still there with a mass of about
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它現在還在那裡且集中了
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five solar masses.
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五個太陽的質量。
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This was considered as first evidence that actually black holes
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這被認為是第一個證明黑洞是從
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come from supernovae explosions.
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超級新星爆炸來的的證據。
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My colleagues, comparing composition of chemical elements
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我的同事在比較不同星系的
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in different galactic stars,
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化學成分組成,
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actually discovered alien stars in our galaxy.
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他發現我們星系有外來星星。
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It's amazing that you can go so far
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能夠只從星星的化學成分資料
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simply studying the chemical composition of stars.
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得到這麼多訊息是很驚人的。
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They actually said that one of the stars you see in the spectra
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他們還說其中一顆在光譜上看到的星星事實上是
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is an alien. It comes from a different galaxy.
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外來星。它是從其他星系來的。
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There is interaction of galaxies. We know this.
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星系之間是有相互作用的。我們知道這個。
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And sometimes they just capture stars.
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有時候他們捕捉星星。
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You've heard about solar flares.
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你們有聽過太陽耀斑。
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We were very surprised to discover
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我們很驚訝地發現
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a super flare,
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一個太陽耀斑,
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a flare which is thousands of millions of times
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一個比我們現在看到的太陽威力大
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more powerful than those we see in the Sun.
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幾十億倍的耀斑。
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In one of the binary stars in our galaxy
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在我們星系中的一個雙星系
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called FH Leo,
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叫做FH Leo,
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we discovered the super flare.
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我們發現了這個超級耀斑。
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And later we went to study the spectral stars
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後來我們去研究光譜線
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to see is there anything strange with these objects.
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來看看有沒有其他奇怪的事情。
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And we found that everything is normal.
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我們發現所有事情都是正常的。
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These stars are normal like the Sun. Age, everything was normal.
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這些星星就跟太陽一樣正常。年紀什麼都是正常的。
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So this is a mystery.
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所以是個謎。
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It's one of the mysteries we still have, super flares.
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超級耀斑是到現在仍然存在的謎。
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And there are six or seven similar cases
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而且在文獻上大約有
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reported in the literature.
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六到七個類似的例子。
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Now to go ahead with this,
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現在我們繼續往下走,
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we really need to understand chemical evolution of the universe.
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我們很需要了解這個宇宙的化學演化。
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It's very complicated. I don't really want you to
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這很複雜。我沒有很希望你們
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try to understand what is here.
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試圖去了解。
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(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
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But it's to show you how complicated is the whole story
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可是現在是要給你們看整個化學元素的產生
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of the production of chemical elements.
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有多們複雜。
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You have two channels --
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你有兩個管道:
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the massive stars and low-mass stars --
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一個高質量星星和一個低質量星星
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producing and recycling matter and chemical elements in the universe.
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正在產生和回收宇宙間的質體和化學元素。
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And doing this for 14 billion years,
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一百四十億年來一直這麼做,
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we end up with this picture,
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我們就有了這張圖片。
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which is a very important graph,
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這是張非常重要的圖表,
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showing relative abundances of chemical elements
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顯示了恆星及星際介質中
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in sun-like stars
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各種化學成分的
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and in the interstellar medium.
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相對含量。
08:33
So which means that it's really impossible
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也就是說是不可能找到
08:35
to find an object where you find about 10 times more sulfur than silicon,
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一個物體其硫含量是矽含量的十倍,
08:40
five times more calcium than oxygen. It's just impossible.
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或是鈣含量比氧含量多五倍。就是不可能。
08:44
And if you find one, I will say that
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而且如果你真的找到這樣的物體我會說
08:46
this is something related to SETI,
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這一定跟SETI(尋找外太空智慧)有關。
08:49
because naturally you can't do it.
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因為自然界中是不可能的。
08:53
Doppler Effect is something very important
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都普勒效應是基礎物理學中
08:55
from fundamental physics.
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非常重要的。
08:57
And this is related to the change of the frequency
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而且這個跟移動源頭的
08:59
of a moving source.
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頻率有關。
09:01
The Doppler Effect is used to discover extrasolar planets.
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都普勒效應是用來發現太陽系外的行星。
09:06
The precision which we need
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要找到一個
09:08
to discover a Jupiter-like planet
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像木星的行星,
09:10
around a sun-like star
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我們需要的精準度
09:12
is something like 28.4 meters per second.
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是大約每秒28.4公尺。
09:16
And we need nine centimeters per second
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要發現一個像地球的行星,
09:18
to detect an Earth-like planet.
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我們需要每秒九公分。
09:21
This can be done with the future spectrographs.
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這個在未來的光譜研究上可以做到。
09:24
I, myself, I'm actually involved in the team
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我,我自己有餐與一個團隊,
09:28
which is developing a CODEX,
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在研發一種規則,
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high resolution, future generation spectrograph
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高解析度,新一代的的光譜法
09:32
for the 42 meter E-ELT telescope.
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可以用在42米E-ELT望遠鏡上。
09:36
And this is going to be an instrument
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這會是一個未來可以探測
09:39
to detect Earth-like planets
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在似太陽星星附近
09:41
around sun-like stars.
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像地球這樣的行星。
09:43
It is an amazing tool called astroseismology
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這是個驚人的工具叫做星震學。
09:46
where we can detect sound waves
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我們可以用來探測星星大氣層中
09:49
in the atmospheres of stars.
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的聲波。
09:51
This is the sound of an Alpha Cen.
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這是半人馬座阿爾法星的聲音。
09:54
We can detect sound waves
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我們可以探測到
09:56
in the atmospheres of sun-like stars.
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恆星大氣層中的聲波。
09:58
Those waves have frequencies
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這些波有頻率,
10:01
in infrasound domain, the sound actually nobody knows, domain.
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在亞聲區塊,就是沒有人知道是什麼聲音的區塊。
10:05
Coming back to the most important question,
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回到最重要的問題:
10:07
"Is there anybody out there?"
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「外面到底有沒有人?」
10:09
This is closely related
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這跟行星的地質構造及
10:11
to tectonic and volcanic activity of planets.
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火山活動是非常有關係的。
10:15
Connection between life
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生命跟放射性原子核
10:17
and radioactive nuclei
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中間的關係
10:19
is straightforward.
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是很直接的。
10:21
No life without tectonic activity,
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沒有地質構造的改變
10:24
without volcanic activity.
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或是沒有火山活動就沒有生命。
10:26
And we know very well that geothermal energy
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我們知道地熱
10:28
is mostly produced by decay of uranium, thorium, and potassium.
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大部分來自鈾、釷和鉀的衰變。
10:33
How to measure, if we have planets
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怎麼測量?如果我們有一個行星,
10:37
where the amount of those elements is small,
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這些元素的含量非常少,
10:41
so those planets are tectonically dead,
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就是說沒有地質構造的改變,
10:44
there cannot be life.
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那麼不可能有生命。
10:46
If there is too much uranium or potassium or thorium,
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如果有太多鈾或鉀或釷,
10:49
probably, again, there would be no life.
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那麼,或許,也不會有生命。
10:52
Because can you imagine everything boiling?
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因為你可以想像所有東西都在沸騰嗎?
10:54
It's too much energy on a planet.
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那對一個行星來說是太多能量的。
10:56
Now, we have been measuring abundance
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現在我們正在測量
10:58
of thorium in one of the stars with extrasolar planets.
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一個外星系行星的釷含量。
11:02
It's exactly the same game. A very tiny feature.
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這是完全一樣的。一個很小的特徵。
11:06
We are actually trying to measure this profile
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我們真的在試圖測量這個資料
11:08
and to detect thorium.
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去探測釷。
11:10
It's very tough. It's very tough.
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這很困難。這很困難。
11:12
And you have to, first you have to convince yourself.
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而且你必須先說服你自己。
11:14
Then you have to convince your colleagues.
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然後必須說服你的同事們。
11:16
And then you have to convince the whole world
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然後你必須說服全世界
11:19
that you have actually detected something like this
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你真的有在百秒差距外
11:22
in the atmosphere of an extrasolar planet
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一個外星系主行星的大氣層中
11:24
host star somewhere in 100 parsec away from here.
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探測到這樣的東西。
11:27
It's really difficult.
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這非常艱難。
11:29
But if you want to know about a life on extrasolar planets,
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但是如果你想要知道外太陽系行星上的生命,
11:34
you have to do this job.
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你就必須做這種工作。
11:36
Because you have to know how much of radioactive element you have
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因為你需要知道在這些系統中
11:39
in those systems.
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有多少放射性物質。
11:41
The one way to discover about aliens
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一個可以發現外星人的方法,
11:44
is to tune your radio telescope and listen to the signals.
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是調整收音機望遠鏡且傾聽信號。
11:48
If you receive something interesting,
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如果你收到有趣的東西,
11:51
well that's what SETI does actually,
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事實上SETI就是這麼做,
11:53
what SETI has been doing for many years.
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SETI已經好幾年都在這麼做了。
11:56
I think the most promising way
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我認為最有希望的方法
11:58
is to go for biomarkers.
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是找生物印記。
12:01
You can see the spectrum of the Earth, this Earthshine spectrum,
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你可以看到地球的光譜,這個地球反照光譜,
12:04
and that is a very clear signal.
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有非常清楚的信號。
12:07
The slope which is coming, which we call a Red Edge,
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這個傾斜的地方我們稱之為紅邊(Red Edge),
12:10
is a detection of vegetated area.
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是代表著植被區。
12:14
It's amazing that we can detect vegetation
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我們可以從光譜針測到植被
12:18
from a spectrum.
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是非常驚人的。
12:20
Now imagine doing this test
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現在想像對其他行星
12:22
for other planets.
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做這樣的測試。
12:25
Now very recently, very recently,
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現在很近期,非常近期,
12:28
I'm talking about last six, seven, eight months,
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我是在講說大約這六、七、八個月,
12:31
water, methane, carbon dioxide
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水、甲烷、二氧化碳
12:35
have been detected in the spectrum
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在一個外星系行星的光譜上
12:37
of a planet outside the solar system.
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被偵測到了。
12:40
It's amazing. So this is the power of spectroscopy.
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這很驚人。這就是光譜學的厲害。
12:44
You can actually go and detect
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你可以真的去偵測
12:47
and study a chemical composition of planets
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和研究一個離太陽系很遠很遠的行星
12:50
far, far, far from solar system.
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的化學組成。
12:53
We have to detect oxygen or ozone
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我們必須偵測到氧氣或是臭氧
12:56
to make sure that we have all necessary conditions
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才能確定我們有生命存在
12:59
to have life.
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必須的條件。
13:03
Cosmic miracles are something
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宇宙奇蹟是一些
13:05
which can be related to SETI.
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跟SETI有關的現象。
13:07
Now imagine an object, amazing object,
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現在想像一個物體,一個驚奇的物體,
13:09
or something which we cannot explain
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或是一個我們無法解釋的東西
13:11
when we just stand up and say,
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我們只能站起來然後說:
13:13
"Look, we give up. Physics doesn't work."
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「好吧!我們放棄,物理不適用。」
13:15
So it's something which you can always refer to SETI and say,
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所以這是你們可以永遠歸因於SETI然後說:
13:18
"Well, somebody must be doing this, somehow."
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「嗯,總有人用某種方法在做這個。」
13:23
And with the known physics etc,
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以現知的物理,
13:25
it's something actually which has been pointed out
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這事實上是個已經被Frank Drake
13:27
by Frank Drake,
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在好幾年前
13:29
many years ago, and Shklovsky.
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指出的事情。
13:31
If you see, in the spectrum of a planet host star,
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如果你看到一個主行星的光譜,
13:34
if you see strange chemical elements,
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如果你看到奇怪的化學元素,
13:38
it can be a signal from a civilization
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這有可能是文明的信號。
13:41
which is there and they want to signal about it.
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文明存在而且他們想要示意。
13:44
They want to actually signal their presence
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他們想要示意他們的存在,
13:48
through these spectral lines,
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利用光譜線,
13:50
in the spectrum of a star, in different ways.
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用不同的方式表現在星星的光譜中。
13:53
There can be different ways doing this.
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有不同種方式可以達成這個目的。
13:55
One is, for instance, technetium
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其中一個方式是用鎝元素,
13:57
is a radioactive element
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一個大約42萬年才會衰退的
13:59
with a decay time of 4.2 million years.
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放射性元素。
14:02
If you suddenly observe technetium
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如果你突然在一個類太陽星星
14:05
in a sun-like star,
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的大氣層中
14:07
you can be sure that somebody has put this
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發現鎝元素,你可以確定
14:09
element in the atmosphere,
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有人把他放在那的,
14:11
because in a natural way it is impossible to do this.
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因為自然界中不可能發生。
14:15
Now we are reviewing the spectra of about
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現在我們正在研究
14:18
300 stars with extrasolar planets.
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大約300個外星系行星的光譜。
14:21
And we are doing this job since 2000
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我們從2000年開始這麼做,
14:25
and it's a very heavy project.
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這是個很龐大的計劃。
14:28
We have been working very hard.
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我們很認真地做,
14:30
And we have some interesting cases,
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而且我們也有些非常有趣的例子,
14:34
candidates, so on, things which we can't really explain.
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一些我們無法解釋的例子。
14:38
And I hope in the near future
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我希望在不遠的將來
14:41
we can confirm this.
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我們可以確認這個。
14:43
So the main question: "Are we alone?"
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所以主要的問題是:「我們是孤獨的嗎?」
14:45
I think it will not come from UFOs.
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我覺得不會從UFO中得到答案。
14:48
It will not come from radio signals.
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我覺得不會從收音訊號中得到答案。
14:52
I think it will come from a spectrum like this.
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我覺得會從這類的光譜中得到答案。
14:56
It is the spectrum of a planet like Earth,
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這是個類地行星的光譜
15:01
showing a presence of nitrogen dioxide,
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顯示著氮氧化物,
15:04
as a clear signal of life,
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明確代表生命存在,
15:07
and oxygen and ozone.
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和氧和臭氧。
15:09
If, one day, and I think it will be
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如果哪一天,而且我覺得
15:11
within 15 years from now, or 20 years.
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大約再十五年或二十年
15:14
If we discover a spectrum like this
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我們發現一個像這樣的光譜,
15:17
we can be sure that there is life on that planet.
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那麼我們可以確定那顆行星上有生命。
15:19
In about five years we will discover
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大約再五年我們會發現
15:22
planets like Earth, around sun-like stars,
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其他類地行星在類太陽恆星附近,
15:25
the same distance as the Earth from the Sun.
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距離大約與地球和太陽間距相似。
15:28
It will take about five years.
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這大概需要五年。
15:30
And then we will need another 10, 15 years
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然後我們需要十、十五年
15:32
with space projects
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利用太空計劃
15:34
to get the spectra of Earth-like planets like the one I showed you.
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來取得像我剛剛給你們看的類地行星的光譜。
15:37
And if we see the nitrogen dioxide
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然後如果我們看到氮氧化物
15:39
and oxygen,
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或氧,
15:41
I think we have the perfect E.T.
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我想我們就有E.T.(外星人)了。
15:43
Thank you very much.
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非常謝謝你們。
15:45
(Applause)
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