James Stavridis: How NATO's Supreme Commander thinks about global security
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Translator: Joseph Geni
Reviewer: Morton Bast
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譯者: Yilun Zhou
審譯者: Yuguo Zhang
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I'm gonna talk a little bit about open-source security,
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我將要介紹一些開放資源的安全性問題,
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because we've got to get better at security
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因爲我們在21世紀已經離安全
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in this 21st century.
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越來越近了。
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Let me start by saying, let's look back to the 20th century,
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我們先回顧一下20世紀吧,
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and kind of get a sense of how that style of security
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然後我們就能了解安全這個概念是如何
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worked for us.
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爲我們而工作。
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This is Verdun, a battlefield in France
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這裏是Verdun,一個法國的戰場,
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just north of the NATO headquarters in Belgium.
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就在北約在比利時總部的北邊。
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At Verdun, in 1916, over a 300-day period,
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1916年,在Verdun這個戰場上,
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700,000 people were killed,
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700000人在300天內被殺了,
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so about 2,000 a day.
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那就是差不多2000人一天。
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If you roll it forward -- 20th-century security --
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咱們繼續往前看,
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into the Second World War,
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看到二戰,
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you see the Battle of Stalingrad,
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我們看得到在斯大林格勒保衛戰,
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300 days, 2 million people killed.
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300天內有二百萬人戰死。
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We go into the Cold War, and we continue
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進入冷戰,我們繼續
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to try and build walls.
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建造圍牆。
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We go from the trench warfare of the First World War
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我們從一戰的壕溝,
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to the Maginot Line of the Second World War,
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到二戰的馬其頓防線,
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and then we go into the Cold War,
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再到冷戰中的
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the Iron Curtain, the Berlin Wall.
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鐵幕,柏林牆。
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Walls don't work.
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牆不管用。
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My thesis for us today is, instead of building walls
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所以我今天的主題是爲了完成“安全”這個目標,
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to create security, we need to build bridges.
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我們不建造牆,而建造橋。
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This is a famous bridge in Europe.
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在歐洲有一個很著名的橋。
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It's in Bosnia-Herzegovina.
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它在波黑。
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It's the bridge over the Drina River,
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它在Drina河上,
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the subject of a novel by Ivo Andrić,
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是作家Ivo Andric的一個小說的主題,
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and it talks about how,
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這部小說講述了
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in that very troubled part of Europe and the Balkans,
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如何在歐洲和巴爾幹地區最動蕩的部分
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over time there's been enormous building of walls.
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大量的牆被築起。
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More recently, in the last decade, we begin to see
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而最近,也就是在近十年,我們開始看到
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these communities start, hesitatingly,
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這些地區開始,盡管有些猶豫不決,
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to come together.
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逐漸融合在一起。
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I would argue, again, open-source security
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我想再次重申,開放式安全
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is about connecting the international,
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是于聯系國際的不同地區的,
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the interagency, the private-public,
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跨部門的,私人的和公共的,
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and lashing it together with strategic communication,
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並且把它們通過戰略性溝通,
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largely in social networks.
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在社交網上聯系在一起有關的。
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So let me talk a little bit about why we need to do that,
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所以,接下來我將說一些爲什麽我們需要那麽做,
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because our global commons is under attack
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因爲我們的共同目標正在受到威脅,
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in a variety of ways,
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而且是多方面的,
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and none of the sources of threat to the global commons
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同時沒有一中威脅
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will be solved by building walls.
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能被通過築牆隔離解決。
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Now, I'm a sailor, obviously.
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當然,現在我是一個水手。
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This is a ship, a liner, clipping through the Indian Ocean.
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有一個船在印度洋上航行。
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What's wrong with this picture?
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這個照片有什麽問題嗎?
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It's got concertina wire along the sides of it.
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在這個船上有蛇網環繞。
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That's to prevent pirates from attacking it.
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這是用來抵禦海盜的。
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Piracy is a very active threat today
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海盜現在是一個非常主要的全球威脅。
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around the world. This is in the Indian Ocean.
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這是只是在印度洋。
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Piracy is also very active in the Strait of Malacca.
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海盜依然在馬六甲海峽很猖狂,
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It's active in the Gulf of Guinea.
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也在幾內亞灣,
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We see it in the Caribbean.
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在加勒比海地區。
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It's a $10-billion-a-year discontinuity
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它在全球交通運輸中每年造成了一百億美元的
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in the global transport system.
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損失。
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Last year, at this time, there were 20 vessels,
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在去年的此刻,有20艘船,
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500 mariners held hostage.
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500名船員被綁架爲人質。
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This is an attack on the global commons.
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這是一個對全球共同利益的威脅。
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We need to think about how to address it.
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我們需要想出解決辦法。
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Let's shift to a different kind of sea,
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現在讓我們轉到另一種海洋,
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the cyber sea.
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網絡的海洋。
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Here are photographs of two young men.
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這裏有兩個年輕人的照片。
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At the moment, they're incarcerated.
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在此刻,他們被監禁著。
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They conducted a credit card fraud that netted them
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他們做了一個信用卡詐騙案,
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over 10 billion dollars.
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並且牟利超過一百億美元。
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This is part of cybercrime which is a $2-trillion-a-year
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這只是對全球經濟造成兩萬億美元損失的
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discontinuity in the global economy.
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網絡犯罪的一部分。
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Two trillion a year.
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兩萬億每年。
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That's just under the GDP of Great Britain.
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這僅低于英國的國民生産總值(GDP).
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So this cyber sea, which we know endlessly
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所以網絡世界,一個我們深知
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is the fundamental piece of radical openness,
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是網絡開放最關鍵的元素,
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is very much under threat as well.
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正在受到威脅。
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Another thing I worry about in the global commons
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另一個我要擔心的是
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is the threat posed by trafficking,
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由于物流造成的威脅,
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by the movement of narcotics, opium,
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也就是麻醉劑,鴉片等毒品
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here coming out of Afghanistan through Europe
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從阿富汗穿過歐洲
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over to the United States.
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到達美國的整個一條運輸線。
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We worry about cocaine
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我們擔心從Andean Ridge(地名)北部
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coming from the Andean Ridge north.
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運過來的可卡因。
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We worry about the movement of illegal weapons
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我們擔心非法武器的運輸。
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and trafficking. Above all, perhaps,
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但最重要的是,
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we worry about human trafficking, and the awful cost of it.
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我們擔心人力的運輸,以及它的成本。
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Trafficking moves largely at sea
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大多數運輸是通過海洋的
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but in other parts of the global commons.
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但也通過我們的共同利益。
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This is a photograph, and I wish I could tell you
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這是一張照片,
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that this is a very high-tech piece of US Navy gear
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通過它我想告訴你這是一個非常高科技的美國海軍武器
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that we're using to stop the trafficking.
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用來阻止非法運輸的發生。
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The bad news is,
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但壞消息是,
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this is a semi-submersible run by drug cartels.
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這是一個販毒組織的半潛水的設備。
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It was built in the jungles of South America.
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它在南美熱帶雨林中被建造,
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We caught it with that low-tech raft — (Laughter) —
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我們通過沒有科技含量的筏子逮捕了它,
(笑聲)
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and it was carrying six tons of cocaine.
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而它正裝載著六噸的可卡因,
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Crew of four. Sophisticated communications sweep.
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四個船員,精良的設備。
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This kind of trafficking, in narcotics, in humans, in weapons,
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這種運送麻醉劑,人和武器的
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God forbid, in weapons of mass destruction,
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天法所不容的運輸
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is part of the threat to the global commons.
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就是我們共同利益的威脅的一部分。
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And let's pull it together in Afghanistan today.
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現在讓我們完整的看一下阿富汗的今天。
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This is a field of poppies in Afghanistan.
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在阿富汗有一片罂粟花的,
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Eighty to 90 percent of the world's poppy,
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全世界80%到90%的罂粟花,
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opium and heroin, comes out of Afghanistan.
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鴉片和海洛因來自阿富汗。
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We also see there, of course, terrorism.
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當然,我們也看到了恐怖組織。
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This is where al Qaeda is staged from.
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這就是基地組織建立的地方。
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We also see a very strong insurgency embedded there.
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我們看到了這裏有一個很不穩定的局勢。
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So this terrorism concern is also part
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所以恐怖組織也是我們
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of the global commons, and what we must address.
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面臨的威脅的一部分,也是我們必須解決的。
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So here we are, 21st century.
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所以,在21世紀,
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We know our 20th-century tools are not going to work.
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我們知道我們20世紀的方法不管用。
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What should we do?
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我們該怎麽辦?
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I would argue that we will not deliver security
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我想說我們不能僅僅通過
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solely from the barrel of a gun.
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槍支來制造安全。
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We will not deliver security solely from the barrel of a gun.
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我們不能僅僅依靠槍支,
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We will need the application of military force.
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我們需要軍事力量的綜合應用。
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When we do it, we must do it well, and competently.
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當我們使用時,我們就必須使用好。
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But my thesis is, open-source security is about international,
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但我所要說的是,開放式安全是關于國際的,
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interagency, private-public connection pulled together
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跨部門的,私人和公共的聯系,
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by this idea of strategic communication on the Internet.
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通過互聯網溝通而建立的。
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Let me give you a couple of examples of how this works in a positive way.
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讓我講一個例子。
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This is Afghanistan. These are Afghan soldiers.
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我們有阿富汗,有阿富汗的士兵,
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They are all holding books.
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他們都拿著書。
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You should say, "That's odd. I thought I read that
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你可能會說“這真奇怪,我想我曾讀到過
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this demographic, young men and women
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在這個地區絕大多數20,30多歲的年輕人
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in their 20s and 30s, is largely illiterate in Afghanistan."
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都是不識字的。”
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You would be correct.
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你也許是對的。
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Eighty-five percent cannot read
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當他們進入安全部隊的時候,
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when they enter the security forces of Afghanistan.
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85%是不識字的。
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Why? Because the Taliban withheld education
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爲什麽?因爲塔利班
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during the period of time in which these men and women
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在這些人該學習的時候不提供
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would have learned to read.
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教育。
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So the question is, so,
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所以問題是,
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why are they all standing there holding books?
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爲什麽他們手裏拿著書站在那裏?
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The answer is, we are teaching them to read
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答案是,我們在叫他們閱讀,
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in literacy courses by NATO
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通過北約組織的課程,
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in partnership with private sector entities,
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通過和私人組織的合作,
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in partnership with development agencies.
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通過和發展署的合作。
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We've taught well over 200,000 Afghan Security Forces
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我們已經教了超過200000的阿富汗安全部隊士兵
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to read and write at a basic level.
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來進行最基本的讀寫。
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When you can read and write in Afghanistan,
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當你能讀和寫的時候,
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you will typically put a pen in your pocket.
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你就會在你的口袋裏放一支筆。
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At the ceremonies, when these young men and women
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在畢業典禮上,當這些人畢業時,
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graduate, they take that pen with great pride,
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他們很驕傲的拿出筆,
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and put it in their pocket.
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並放在他們的口袋裏。
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This is bringing together international
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這個舉動把全世界
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— there are 50 nations involved in this mission —
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——有五十個國家——
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interagency — these development agencies —
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跨部門的力量
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and private-public, to take on this kind of security.
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私人和公共資源都聯系到了一起,來進行這種安全的建立。
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Now, we are also teaching them combat skills, of course,
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現在,我們當然也教他們格鬥技巧,
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but I would argue, open-source security
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但我想說,開放式安全
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means connecting in ways that create
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意味著爲創造更持久的安全
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longer lasting security effect.
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而聯系各個力量。
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Here's another example.
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這裏是另一個例子。
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This is a US Navy warship.
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這是一個美國海軍戰艦。
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It's called the Comfort.
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叫做Comfort(安慰)號。
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There's a sister ship called the Mercy.
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他有一個姊妹艦,叫做Mercy(仁慈)號。
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They are hospital ships.
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他們是友好的戰艦。
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This one, the Comfort, operates throughout
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安慰號在
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the Caribbean and the coast of South America
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加勒比海和南美洲的海岸
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conducting patient treatments.
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進行病人的治療。
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On a typical cruise, they'll do 400,000 patient treatments.
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通常,他會進行400000個治療,
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It is crewed not strictly by military
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船員不是嚴格的部隊人員,
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but by a combination of humanitarian organizations:
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而是很多人道主義組織,
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Operation Hope, Project Smile.
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比如“希望項目”,“微笑工程”。
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Other organizations send volunteers.
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其他組織送來志願者。
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Interagency physicians come out.
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其他部門的醫生也來了。
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They're all part of this.
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他們都是這個項目的一部分。
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To give you one example of the impact this can have,
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舉個例子來說明這個項目的影響力,
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this little boy, eight years old,
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這個小孩,8歲,
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walked with his mother two days
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和他的媽媽走了兩天
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to come to the eye clinic put on by the Comfort.
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來到安慰號上的眼科診所。
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When he was fitted, over his extremely myopic eyes,
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當他被治好他的重度近視是,
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he suddenly looked up and said,
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他突然擡頭,然後說:
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"Mama, veo el mundo."
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“Mama, veo el mundo.(當地語言)”
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"Mom, I see the world."
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“媽媽,我看到世界了。”
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Multiply this by 400,000 patient treatments,
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把這個乘以400000,也就是治療數目,
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this private-public collaboration with security forces,
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這個私人和公共的合作,同時融合了安全力量的項目,
09:48
and you begin to see the power
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開始顯現它的力量,
09:50
of creating security in a very different way.
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來以一個很不同的方式創造安全。
09:54
Here you see baseball players.
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這張照片是棒球運動員。
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Can you pick out the two US Army soldiers
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你能在其中找出
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in this photograph?
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兩名美國部隊的士兵嗎?
10:04
They are the two young men on either side
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他們是每側最邊上的兩位。
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of these young boys. This is part of a series
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這是棒球診所的一部分,
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of baseball clinics, where we have explored collaboration
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在這裏我們嘗試
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between Major League Baseball,
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全美棒球聯賽(MLB),
10:15
the Department of State,
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國務院,
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who sets up the diplomatic piece of this,
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(它建起了外交基礎)
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military baseball players, who are real soldiers
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在軍隊中的棒球運動員,
10:23
with real skills but participate in this mission,
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也就是那些能真正上戰場的人,之間的合作,
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and they put on clinics
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並且他們把這種診所
10:29
throughout Latin America and the Caribbean,
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開到了拉丁美洲和加勒比地區,
10:31
in Honduras, in Nicaragua,
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開到了洪都拉斯,開到了尼加拉瓜,
10:34
in all of the Central American and Caribbean nations
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開到了所有中美洲和加勒比的
10:39
where baseball is so popular,
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棒球很流行國家,
10:41
and it creates security.
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而且它創造了安全感。
10:43
It shows role models to young men and women
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他爲年輕人建立了關于健身和生活的榜樣,
10:45
about fitness and about life that I would argue
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而且我想說
10:49
help create security for us.
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這些理念幫助創造了安全。
10:53
Another aspect of this partnership
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這個合作的另一部分是
10:56
is in disaster relief.
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災後救援與後續工作。
10:58
This is a US Air Force helicopter participating
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這是一個美國空軍的直升機,
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after the tsunami in 2004 which killed 250,000 people.
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它參加了2004年一個殺死250000人的海嘯的救援。
11:08
In each of these major disasters — the tsunami in 2004,
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在所有的大災難中——2004年海嘯,250000死,
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250,000 dead, the Kashmiri earthquake in Pakistan, 2005,
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2005年巴基斯坦地震,
11:20
85,000 dead,
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85000死,
11:22
the Haitian earthquake, about 300,000 dead,
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海地地震,300000死,
11:26
more recently the awful earthquake-tsunami combination
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還有最近的對于日本機器核工業的
11:31
which struck Japan and its nuclear industry —
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地震海嘯雙重打擊——
11:35
in all of these instances, we see partnerships
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在所有這些例子中,我們看到了
11:38
between international actors,
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國際間,
11:41
interagency, private-public working with security forces
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跨部門,公私結合的合作,這個合作與安全力量同時
11:45
to respond to this kind of natural disaster.
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響應這種自然災害。
11:49
So these are examples of this idea of open-source security.
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所以這些都是我們說的開放式安全的例子。
11:53
We tie it together, increasingly, by doing things like this.
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我們結合在一起,來共同完成這樣的事情。
11:58
Now, you're looking at this thinking, "Ah, Admiral,
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現在你看到這個,應該在想,“啊,船長,
12:01
these must be sea lanes of communication,
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這些一定是通信電纜,
12:04
or these might be fiber optic cables."
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或者是光線。”
12:07
No. This is a graphic of the world according to Twitter.
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不,這是一個Twitter(國外微博網站)公司發的世界地圖。
12:12
Purple are tweets. Green are geolocation.
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紫色是微博,綠色是地點,
12:19
White is the synthesis.
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白色是結合。
12:21
It's a perfect evocation of that great population survey,
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這很能讓人想到人口普查,
12:25
the six largest nations in the world in descending order:
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六個人口最多的國家依次是:
12:28
China, India, Facebook, the United States,
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中國,印度,Facebook(臉譜網),美國,
12:31
Twitter and Indonesia. (Laughter)
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Twitter,和印尼。
(笑聲)
12:35
Why do we want to get in these nets?
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我們要這些網幹什麽?
12:37
Why do we want to be involved?
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我們爲什麽想要在其中?
12:39
We talked earlier about the Arab Spring,
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我們之前討論過阿拉伯春天組織,
12:41
and the power of all this.
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以及它的力量。
12:42
I'll give you another example,
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我再舉一個例子,
12:44
and it's how you move this message.
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是關于信息如何傳播的。
12:46
I gave a talk like this in London a while back
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我在倫敦發表一個像這個的演講。
12:48
about this point. I said, as I say to all of you,
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我說,我對你們說,
12:52
I'm on Facebook. Friend me.
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我在Facebook上,加我好友吧。
12:54
Got a little laugh from the audience.
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觀衆在笑。
12:56
There was an article which was run by AP, on the wire.
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這是AP(美聯社)的一篇文章。
13:01
Got picked up in two places in the world:
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世界上有兩個地方,
13:04
Finland and Indonesia.
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芬蘭和印尼,
13:06
The headline was: NATO Admiral Needs Friends.
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標題是:北約艦隊司令需要好友。
13:10
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
13:11
Thank you. (Applause)
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謝謝你們。
(掌聲)
13:14
Which I do. (Laughter)
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我會做。
(笑聲)
13:16
And the story was a catalyst,
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這個故事是一個催化劑,
13:19
and the next morning I had hundreds
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明天早上我就會有上百個
13:22
of Facebook friend requests
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Facebook好友請求,
13:23
from Indonesians and Finns,
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來自印尼和芬蘭,
13:26
mostly saying, "Admiral, we heard you need a friend,
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大多數都會說:“司令,我們聽說你需要好友,
13:29
and oh, by the way, what is NATO?" (Laughter)
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哦,還有,NATO(北約)是什麽?”
(笑聲)
13:32
So ... (Laughter)
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所以...
(笑聲)
13:34
Yeah, we laugh, but this is how we move the message,
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是的,我們笑了,但這就是我們如何傳播信息,
13:39
and moving that message is how we connect
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也就是我們如何把
13:41
international, interagency, private-public,
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國際,不同部門,私人和公共,
13:44
and these social nets to help create security.
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以及那些社會網聯系起來來創造安全。
13:48
Now, let me hit a somber note.
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現在,讓我說一個嚴肅的消息。
13:51
This is a photograph of a brave British soldier.
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這是一個勇敢的英國士兵的照片。
13:55
He's in the Scots Guards.
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他在蘇格蘭衛隊,
13:57
He's standing the watch in Helmand,
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正在Helmand站崗,
13:59
in southern Afghanistan.
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在阿富汗南部。
14:01
I put him here to remind us,
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我把他放出來就是想提醒我們,
14:04
I would not want anyone to leave the room thinking
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我不想讓任何人離開這間屋子,抱著
14:07
that we do not need capable, competent militaries
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“我們不需要軍事部隊”
14:11
who can create real military effect.
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的想法。
14:14
That is the core of who we are and what we do,
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這正是我們在做的,
14:18
and we do it to protect freedom, freedom of speech,
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我們做這個事情來保障自由,言論自由,
14:22
all the things we treasure in our societies.
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和其他所有我們在社會中珍視的。
14:25
But, you know, life is not an on-and-off switch.
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但你知道,生活不是開關。
14:29
You don't have to have a military that is either
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我們沒有要麽在戰爭,要麽在兵營的
14:31
in hard combat or is in the barracks.
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軍事力量。
14:35
I would argue life is a rheostat.
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我認爲生活是一個可變電阻器,
14:40
You have to dial it in,
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你需要調一個數值,
14:42
and as I think about how we create security
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並且正像我認爲我們該如何在21世紀制造安全一樣,
14:46
in this 21st century, there will be times
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我們會需要
14:48
when we will apply hard power in true war and crisis,
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在真正的戰爭和危機中使用真正強硬的力量,
14:53
but there will be many instances,
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但會有很多時候,
14:55
as we've talked about today,
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就像我們已經討論的,
14:57
where our militaries can be part of creating
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我們的部隊可以使
15:00
21st-century security, international,
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21世紀安全,也就是國際,
15:04
interagency, private-public,
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跨部門,公私結合,
15:07
connected with competent communication.
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的安全模式的一部分,通過溝通來結合起來。
15:11
I would close by saying that we heard earlier today
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在結束時,我想說在今天早些時候
15:16
about Wikipedia. I use Wikipedia all the time
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聽到的關于維基百科的一些東西。
15:20
to look up facts, and as all of you appreciate,
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我經常用維基百科查一些東西,就像你所知道的,
15:23
Wikipedia is not created by 12 brilliant people
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維基百科不是靠12個聰明的人
15:27
locked in a room writing articles.
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把自己關在屋子裏寫文章建立的。
15:30
Wikipedia, every day, is tens of thousands of people
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維基百科是靠每天數萬人
15:33
inputting information, and every day millions of people
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的更新,數百萬人的提取信息
15:38
withdrawing that information.
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而建立的。
15:40
It's a perfect image for the fundamental point
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這完美的說明了
15:44
that no one of us is as smart as all of us thinking together.
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沒有一個人能比共同思考更聰明。
15:48
No one person, no one alliance, no one nation,
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沒有一個人,沒有一個聯盟,沒有一個國家,
15:52
no one of us is as smart as all of us thinking together.
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能有我們共同思考更睿智。
15:57
The vision statement of Wikipedia is very simple:
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維基百科的宣言很簡單:
16:01
a world in which every human being can freely share
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創建一個能人人自由共享
16:04
in the sum of all knowledge.
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所有知識的世界。
16:06
My thesis for you is that by combining international,
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所以,我想說,通過結合國際,
16:10
interagency, private-public, strategic communication,
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多部門,公私力量,戰略通信在一起,
16:15
together, in this 21st century,
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在21世紀,
16:18
we can create the sum of all security.
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我們能創造共同的安全。
16:21
Thank you. (Applause)
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謝謝
(掌聲)
16:24
Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. (Applause)
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非常感謝。
(掌聲)
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