Andrea Berchowitz: The link between menopause and gender inequity at work | TED

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譯者: Lilian Chiu 審譯者: Helen Chang
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Of America's 500 largest companies, only 42 have female CEOs.
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在美國的五百大企業中,
只有四十二家的執行長是女性。
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And if you look at other countries,
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如果去看其他國家,
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the data is similar, and in some cases, worse.
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資料都差不多,有些國家還更糟。
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And, of course, there are a number of factors
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當然,有許多因素會造成 全球的工作場所性別不平等。
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contributing to global gender inequity in the workplace.
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But I believe that there is one factor often underecognized,
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但我相信,有一個因素 通常都被低估了,
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and that's menopause.
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那就是更年期。
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So what do I mean?
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我這麼說是什麼意思?
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Many women will rise into senior positions of leadership
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許多女性會在四、五十歲時 升遷到資深的領導職位。
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in their 40s or their 50s.
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The average age of a CEO is mid-50s.
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執行長的平均年齡是五十五歲上下。
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Perimenopause, or the transition into menopause,
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圍停經期,或稱停經過度期,
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generally occurs also between 45 and 55.
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通常也出現在四十五歲 到五十五歲之間。
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And this is where the symptoms really start,
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此時症狀就會開始出現, 且可以持續十年之久。
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and it can last up to 10 years.
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So just as a woman is stepping up, taking the reins,
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當女性正要更打拼、
取得控制權、發揮 最高潛能來賺錢時,
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earning at her highest potential,
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her body can feel like it's betraying her.
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她的身體卻像是在背叛她。
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Now, for anyone who doesn't know, which turns out to be many of us --
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如果有人不知道 (結果發現多數人都不知道),
就我來說,我一直到前幾年 才和我母親第一次談到更年期——
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for me, I had my first conversation with my own mother about menopause
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in the last few years --
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it's a big deal.
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那是件大事。
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And it's not just a big deal for women over 45.
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且不僅對四十五歲以上的 女性而言是大事。
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Nonbinary, transmasculine and younger women
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非二元性別、跨男性, 以及較年輕的女性
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may all cope with menopausal symptoms.
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可能都得面對更年期的症狀。
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So what are these symptoms?
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所以,有哪些症狀?
有身體的症狀,
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They can be physical,
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so that's hot flushes, joint pain, urinary incontinence, heavy periods.
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比如熱潮紅、關節痛、
尿失禁、經血過多。
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They can also be mental: anxiety, depression,
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也有心理的症狀:焦慮、憂鬱、
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bouts of low confidence, difficulty sleeping.
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信心低落、難眠。
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Imagine that -- 10 years of difficulty sleeping.
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想像一下——十年都難以入睡。
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The list is long and symptoms can change,
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症狀清單非常長, 且可能症狀可能會改變。
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so it means you never really know what to expect.
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那就表示你永遠不知道要預期什麼。
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But make no mistake: they are significant.
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但別誤會:症狀都很明顯。
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So significant, that in a study by Vodafone across five countries,
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明顯到這種程度:
在沃達豐的跨五國研究中,
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it found that 60 percent of women dealing with menopausal symptoms
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發現有六成面臨更年期症狀的女性
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said it impacted their work.
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都說她們的工作受到影響。
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In another study in the UK,
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在另一項英國的研究中,
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30 percent of women said they missed work due to their symptoms.
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有三成的女性
說她們因為症狀而無法工作。
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And at the extremes, women are making serious choices about their careers.
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在最極端的例子中,女性 得要做出職涯的重大選擇。
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As many as 11 percent forewent a promotion opportunity,
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有 11% 的女性放棄了升遷機會,
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and as many as eight percent resigned from their positions
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有 8% 的女性
因為更年期症狀而辭掉了工作。
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because of menopausal symptoms.
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My fascination with female leadership and the obvious gap
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我對於女性領導 及其明顯落差的著迷,
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began as a strategy consultant working in boardrooms around the world.
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始於我在世界各地的 董事會議室擔任策略顧問。
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In over 10 years, I can count on one hand
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十多年來,我用一隻手就可以數出
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the number of senior women over 50 in executive positions that I saw,
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我看過的五十歲以上年長女性經理,
不論是在西雅圖、杜拜、 拉哥斯,或紐約上州都是如此。
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whether it was Seattle or Dubai, Lagos or upstate New York,
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women were scarce at the top.
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在高層的女性很稀有。
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I started to look around and question the system I was in,
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我開始到處看看, 質疑我所處的體制,
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wonder what opportunities really existed.
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納悶到底有什麼機會存在。
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The women at the top were exceptional.
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在高層的女性非同尋常。
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The bar seemed almost too high to reach.
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標準似乎高到不可攀。
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And so I started speaking to my friends and colleagues in their 40s and 50s.
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我開始跟四、五十歲的朋友同事談。
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They talked about things I knew: balancing a serious job, teenagers
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他們會談到我知道的事: 在正職工作、青少年孩子,
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and caring for elderly parents.
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及照顧年邁父母之間找到平衡。
但在少數幾個例子中, 內圈朋友會御下心防。
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But in a few instances, close friends opened up.
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They talked about how their bodies and their minds were changing
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他們談到他們的身心 發生了什麼改變,
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and the impact of menopause on many aspects of their lives,
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以及更年期對他們人生 許多面向的影響,
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including work.
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包括工作面。
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It was at that point that I realized
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那時,我了解到,
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if I wanted to make a difference to women in the workplace
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如果我想要為工作場所的 女性帶來改變,
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so we can all work as long as we want to,
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讓我們可以照自己意願繼續工作下去,
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it was to improve menopause care.
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要做的是重要更年期保健。
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I believe the workplace can play a major role
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我相信工作場所能扮演重要的角色,
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in improving the experience for women coping with menopausal symptoms.
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改善面臨更年期症狀的女性 會經歷的狀況。
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And it might sound cliché, but it does start with awareness.
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或許很老套,但必須要 先意識到這個問題才行。
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And then it means changing the physical setup of our offices,
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那就表示要改變辦公室的實體環境、
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resetting expectations around work culture
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重植在工作文化中的期望,
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and updating health care policies.
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並改良健康照護政策。
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So, first: awareness.
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所以,第一點:意識。
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Since we learn virtually nothing about menopause in school,
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因為我們在學校、新聞、 流行文化中都沒有
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in the news, in pop culture,
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學到關於更年期的知識,
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it's impossible to expect that even the most well-intentioned manager
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因此很可能連最有善意的經理
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would have a clue how to be supportive.
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對於如何提供支持都毫無頭緒。
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So many societies place so much pressure on women to appear young and happy
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許多社會給女性相當大的壓力,
要女性時時刻刻都表現 年輕、快樂、活躍。
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and vibrant all of the time.
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All that effort put towards pretending that you're not going through
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盡所有努力
假裝你沒有經歷老化這個自然過程,
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a natural process of aging
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is a complete waste of time.
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根本是浪費時間。
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Meanwhile, a day in the life of a peri- or postmenopausal woman
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圍停經期或停經後的女性, 每天要經歷的可能是
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could be running to the bathroom to wait out a hot flush,
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衝到廁所,等熱潮紅過去,
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looking for paper towels for perspiration that came out of nowhere
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大家都冷得要死時,
卻因為不知道哪來的汗水 而去尋找紙巾,
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when everyone else was freezing,
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skipping a meeting or sending someone else,
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缺席會議或請人代理出席,
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because a wave of anxiety made you feel like you couldn't cope
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因為一波焦慮來襲, 讓你覺得你招架不住,
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or skipping a business trip altogether,
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或者得把出差全部取消,
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because heavy periods made leaving home virtually impossible.
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因為經血過多, 多到根本無法離開家。
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One way to raise awareness is to bring the discussion right into the workplace.
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提升意識的方法之一,
就是把討論直接帶到工作場所。
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Many companies already offer training programs
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許多企業已經有提供教育訓練,
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on things like diversity and inclusion,
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主題包括多樣性與包容、
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anti-harassment,
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反騷擾、
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conversations on mental health or parental leave.
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關於心理健康或育嬰假的討論。
咱們讓討論更年期也成為常態,
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Let's normalize conversation on menopause,
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inviting people of all genders and all ages
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邀請各種性別、年齡的人
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to understand what's happening in this natural process of aging,
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來了解老化的自然過程,
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so people can learn how to be supportive.
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讓大家了解如何提供支持。
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Next is the physical setup and expectations around work culture.
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接著,是實體環境
以及工作文化中的期望。
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For example, open-plan offices are a disaster for so many reasons,
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比如,
開放式辦公室可說 是個災難,原因有很多:
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not being able to control the temperature,
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無法控制溫度,
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having no doors to close when you're having a hot flush
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發生熱潮紅或需要點時間 重新調整時,卻沒有門可以關上。
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or need a moment to regroup.
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And, of course, you can't change an entire floor plan overnight.
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當然,你無法一夕改變 整層樓的設計。
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But there probably are some things you can do,
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但還是有些你可以做的事,
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whether that's desk fans, availability of period products,
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比如,桌上型風扇、提供月經用品、
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letting someone move their desk from closest to the radiator
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允許將離暖氣最近的桌子移遠一點,
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or having a few rooms with a few doors that you can close
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或保留幾間有門可以關上的房間, 給需要時間重新整理自己的人,
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if you need a moment to regroup
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are all good ideas.
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這些都是好主意。
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In situations where women wear uniforms at work,
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如果是女性在工作時 需要穿制服的情況,
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updating the cut to a thinner fabric,
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把制服式樣改用更薄的布料,
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making it more breathable or even sweat-wicking
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讓制服更透氣或甚至可吸濕排汗,
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can make a huge difference to a woman's comfort,
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能大大改善女性的舒適度。
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as well as having a few extra around,
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也可以準備幾件替換制度, 可以在當日更換。
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if a quick change is required during the day.
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For employees who can work remotely,
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至於可以遠端工作的員工,
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you can make it easier by giving examples of things to say to a manager
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你可以提供例子,
讓女性在症狀失控時 更知道該怎麼跟經理說。
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when symptoms are out of control.
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For example, "I'm having a really tough day due to my symptoms,
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比如,
「因為我的症狀,我今天非常難受,
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and it's making it difficult for me to perform at my best in the office."
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因此我很難在辦公室 有很好的表現。」
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In cases where that's not possible,
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如果不能這樣說,
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being able to say things like,
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可以試著說:
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"I need to take a few more frequent breaks today rather than one long break,"
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「今天我需要多次幾頻繁的休息,
一次長休息可能不夠。」
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or "Hold on a second -- I'm having a hot flush."
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或者:「等等——
我熱潮紅發作了。」
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I truly believe that more openness about this topic,
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我真心相信,對這個主題能更開放
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as well as leniency from an office around scheduling or more frequent breaks
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或者辦公室能更仁慈地 安排更頻繁的休息,
對於留住女性會有很大的幫助,
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will make a huge difference to retaining women
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and getting them over that next promotion hurdle.
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也能協助她們克服下一個升遷障礙。
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And then there's health care,
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接著,還有健康照護,
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which is perhaps the most important.
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這點可能最重要。
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In many cases,
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許多工作場所提供其員工 部分或完整的健康照護。
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a workplace will provide in-part or in-full health care to its employees.
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So there's an opportunity to include menopause directly.
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所以就有機會可以直接 把更年期也納入。
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It can benefit a woman to have access to real information
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女性可能很需要
能夠取得關於可取得 哪些治療選項的真實資訊,
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about what treatment options are available
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and what doctors or specialists she may want to see,
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或者可能可以去看哪些醫生或專家,
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whether that's gynecologists, endocrinologists,
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不論是婦科醫生、內分泌學家、
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pelvic floor physios
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骨盆底肌治療師, 或者談話治療師。
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or talk therapists.
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Menopause is a highly complex and individualized situation,
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更年期是非常複雜 且很個人化的情況,
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and having access to high-quality health care providers
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找到高品質的健康照護服務提供者
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that can talk you through your treatment options
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來為你說明各種治療選項
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and help you figure out what you want to do
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並協助你決定要怎麼做
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is critical.
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是很重要的事。
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In many cases, insurance does cover this,
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在許多情況下,保險都會給付,
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or national health systems do have this available,
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或者國家的健康制度會有相關資源,
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but it can be hard to navigate,
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但要找到方向很困難,
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and all of the symptoms make finding the right doctor time-consuming
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且所有這些症狀會讓找醫生變成
很花時間且會榨乾精力的事。
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and energy-draining.
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Just as we have health care resources
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就如同我們有健康照護資源
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for what to expect when you're having a child and how to be a great parent,
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告訴我們生孩子時該期待什麼 以及如何成為好父母,
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we need better health care resources for what to expect in perimenopause
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我們也需要更好的健康照護資源 來說明圍停經期該期待什麼,
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and support through the entire transition.
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並在整個過度時期提供支持。
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Every workplace is different,
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每個工作場所都不同,
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and not all companies will have the same approach to becoming menopause friendly.
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並非所有企業都會採用同樣的方法 表現對更年期的友善。
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But at the very least,
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但,最少,
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increasing awareness and demonstrating some real empathy can be low-cost.
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增加意識
和展現真實的同理心,成本都很低。
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Just this year, we've heard several corporations make announcements
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光是今年,就聽到不少企業
宣佈要推動在最上層的女性領導——
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about boosting female leadership at the top -- and that's great.
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那很棒。
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And it will take a lot of coordinated efforts to get there.
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那會需要花很多心思 做協調才能達成。
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But what's the first step?
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但,第一步是什麼?
08:13
Getting serious about menopause.
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認真看待更年期。
08:16
Thank you.
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謝謝。
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