The genius behind some of the world's most famous buildings | Renzo Piano

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譯者: Lilian Chiu 審譯者: 易帆 余
00:12
Architecture is amazing, for sure.
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建築令人讚嘆,真的。
00:17
It's amazing because it's art.
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令人讚嘆的原因是因為 建築本身就是一門藝術。
00:20
But you know, it's a very funny kind of art.
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但它是門非常微妙的藝術。
00:23
It's an art at the frontier between art and science.
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它是介於藝術和科學的一門學問。
00:27
It's fed by ...
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建築學的養分
00:31
by real life, every day.
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充斥在我們每天的生活當中。
00:33
It's driven by force of necessity.
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它被需求的力量所驅動著。
00:37
Quite amazing, quite amazing.
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相當了不起,相當了不起。
00:39
And the life of the architect is also amazing.
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而建築師的生活也很了不起。
00:45
You know, as an architect, at 10 o’clock in the morning,
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各位知道嗎,身為建築師, 你早上十點,
00:48
you need to be a poet, for sure.
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必須要像個詩人,真的。
00:51
But at 11,
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但在十一點,
00:53
you must become a humanist,
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你就得變成人道主義者,
00:56
otherwise you'd lose your direction.
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要不然你會走偏了。
00:59
And at noon, you absolutely need to be a builder.
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到了中午,你一定要回到建商的立場。
01:04
You need to be able to make a building,
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你必須要有建造建築物的能力,
01:08
because architecture, at the end, is the art of making buildings.
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因為,最終,建築物本身 就是一門建造的藝術。
01:13
Architecture is the art of making shelter for human beings.
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建築是一門為人類 建造庇護所的藝術。
01:19
Period.
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就這樣。
01:20
And this is not easy at all.
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這一點也不容易。
01:23
It's amazing.
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這很了不起。
01:25
Look at this.
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看看這個。
01:27
Here we are in London,
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這是在倫敦
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at the top of the Shard of Glass.
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摘星塔摩天大樓的頂端。
01:35
This is a building we completed a few years ago.
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這是幾年前我們完成的一棟大樓。
01:38
Those people are well-trained workers,
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這些工人受過很好的訓練,
01:45
and they are assembling the top piece of the tower.
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他們正在塔頂組裝 最頂部的元件。
01:51
Well, they look like rock climbers.
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他們看起來像是攀岩者。
01:56
They are.
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的確是。
01:57
I mean, they are defying the force of gravity,
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我的意思是,他們正在與 地心引力搏鬥,
02:00
like building does, by the way.
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順道一提,建築物本身也是。
02:03
We got 30 of those people --
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我們有三十名這樣的工人——
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actually, on that site, we got more than 1,400 people,
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其實,在建地, 我們有超過一千四百位的工人,
02:10
coming from 60 different nationalities.
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來自六十個不同的國家。
02:15
You know, this is a miracle. It's a miracle.
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這是個奇蹟,這是個奇蹟。
02:18
To put together 1,400 people,
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要把來自不同的地方的一千四百人
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coming from such different places, is a miracle.
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全部結合起來,真的是個奇蹟。
02:24
Sites are miracles.
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建地現場到處是奇蹟。
02:27
This is another one.
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這裡還有一個。
02:29
Let's talk about construction.
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我們來談談建造。
02:30
Adventure, it's adventure in real life,
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冒險,它是真實人生的冒險,
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not adventure in spirit.
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不是靈性的冒險。
02:37
This guy there is a deepwater diver.
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這位是深水潛水員。
02:41
From rock climbers to deepwater divers.
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從攀岩者到潛水員。
02:45
This is in Berlin.
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這是在柏林。
02:47
After the fall of the Wall in '89,
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在 1989 年圍牆拆除之後,
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we built this building, connecting East Berlin to West Berlin,
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我們建造了這棟 連結東柏林和西柏林的建築物,
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in Potsdamer Platz.
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它座落在波茨坦廣場。
02:56
We got on that project almost 5,000 people.
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那個建案用了近五千人。
03:02
Almost 5,000 people.
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近五千人。
03:04
And this is another site in Japan,
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這是另一個建地,在日本,
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building the Kansai Airport.
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建造關西國際機場。
03:11
Again, all the rock climbers, Japanese ones.
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一樣,都是攀岩者,日本的攀岩者。
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You know, making buildings together
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你知道嗎,一起建造建築物
03:17
is the best way to create a sense of cooperation.
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是創造合作感最好的方式。
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The sense of pride -- pride is essential.
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榮耀感——榮耀感是很重要的。
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But, you know, construction, of course,
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但,當然,建築技術
03:30
is one of the reasons why architecture is amazing.
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是建築物了不起的原因之一。
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But there is another one, that is maybe even more amazing.
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但還有另外一個, 可能還更了不起的。
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Because architecture is the art
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因為建築是
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of making shelter for communities,
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為公眾建造庇護所的藝術,
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not just for individuals --
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不只是為個人——
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communities and society at large.
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也為社區和大眾社會。
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And society is never the same.
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而社會一直在改變。
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The world keeps changing.
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世界也不斷在變。
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And changes are difficult to swallow by people.
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而改變不易從人身上發覺。
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And architecture is a mirror of those changes.
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而建築能反映出這些改變。
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Architecture is the built expression of those changes.
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建築物能體現出那些改變。
04:14
So, this is why it is so difficult,
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這就是為什麼它如此困難,
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because those changes create adventure.
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因為那些改變創造出冒險。
04:24
They create adventure, and architecture is adventure.
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它們創造冒險,而建築就是冒險。
04:27
This is the Centre Georges Pompidou in Paris,
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這是巴黎的龐畢度中心,
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a long time ago.
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很久以前。
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That was back in time, '77.
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當時是 1977 年。
04:36
This was a spaceship landing in the middle of Paris.
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這是一艘太空船,降落在巴黎中央。
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Together with my friend in adventure, Richard Rogers,
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我和我的朋友理查羅傑斯 一起合作冒險,
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we were, at the time, young bad boys.
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在當時,我們是很年輕的壞男孩。
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Young, bad boys.
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年輕的壞男孩。
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(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
04:53
It was really only a few years after May '68.
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時間其實不過是 1968 年 五月之後沒幾年。
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So it was a rebellion, pure rebellion.
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當時很叛逆,純粹就是叛逆。
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The idea was to make
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我們的想法是要證明
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the proof that cultural buildings should not be intimidating.
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文化建築物不應該令人生畏。
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They should create a sense of curiosity.
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它們應該要能創造出好奇感。
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This is the way to create a cultural place.
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這是創造在地文化的方式。
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Curiosity is the beginning of a cultural attitude.
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一個文化的產生始於好奇心。
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And there's a piazza there, you can see that piazza.
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那裡有一個廣場, 你們可以看見那個廣場。
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And a piazza is the beginning of urban life.
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而都市生活始於廣場。
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A piazza is the place where people meet.
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廣場是大家見面的地方。
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And they mix experience.
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人們交換生活經驗的地方。
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And they mix ages.
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各年齡層的人都有。
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And, you know, in some way,
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而且,你知道嗎,在某種程度上,
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you create the essence of the city.
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你是在創造城市的本質。
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And since then, we made, in the office, so many other places for people.
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在這之後,我們在辦公室裡, 為人們設計了許多其它的類似空間。
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Here, in Rome, is a concert hall.
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在羅馬這裡, 我們打造了一間音樂廳。
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Another place for people.
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另一個為人們打造的地方。
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This building inside is actually designed by the sound, you can see.
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你們可以看得出來, 建築內部是專為聲音而設計的。
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It's flirting with sound.
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如空谷幽蘭,餘音繞梁。
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And this is the Kansai Airport,
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這是關西國際機場,
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in Japan.
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在日本。
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To make a building, sometimes you need to make an island,
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有時,打造一棟建築物, 就像打造一座島,
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and we made the island.
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我們打造了一座島。
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The building is more than one mile long.
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這棟建築物有超過一英哩長。
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It looks like an immense glider, landing on the ground.
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它看起來像是巨大的滑翔機, 降落在地面上。
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And this is in San Francisco.
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這是在舊金山。
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Another place for people.
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另一個為人們打造的地方。
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This building is the California Academy of Sciences.
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這棟建築物是 加利福尼亞州科學院。
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And we planted on that roof --
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我們在屋頂上種植物——
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thousands and thousands of plants that use the humidity of the air,
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上面有數以千計的植物, 靠空氣中的濕氣生長,
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instead of pumping water from the water table.
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而不是從地下把水抽上來。
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The roof is a living roof, actually.
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這片屋頂其實是個活的屋頂。
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And this building was made Platinum LEED.
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這棟建築拿到了 LEED 白金級認證。
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The LEED is the system to measure, of course,
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當然,LEED 是一套系統,
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the sustainability of a building.
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用來測量建築物的永續性。
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So this was also a place for people
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所以,這也是一個為人打造的地方,
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that will stay a long time.
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會存在很長的一段時間。
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And this is actually New York.
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這則是在紐約。
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This is the new Whitney,
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這是新惠特尼,
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in the Meatpacking District in New York.
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位在紐約的米特帕金區。
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Well, another flying vessel.
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嗯,另一架飛行船。
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Another place for people.
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另一個為人打造的地方。
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Here we are in Athens, the Niarchos Foundation.
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這裡是雅典的尼亞可斯基金會。
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It's a library,
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它是座圖書館,
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it's an open house, a concert hall
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它是間開放的房子,是間音樂廳,
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and a big park.
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也是個大公園。
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This building is also a Platinum LEED building.
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它也是 LEED 白金級 認證的建築物。
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This building actually captures the sun's energy with that roof.
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這棟建築物用屋頂捕捉太陽能。
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But, you know, making a building a place for people is good.
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但,為人們打造一棟建築物、 一個空間,是很好的事。
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Making libraries, making concert halls,
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打造圖書館、打造音樂廳、
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making universities, making museums is good,
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打造大學、打造博物館,都很好,
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because you create a place that's open, accessible.
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因為你是在創造一個 開放、親民的地方。
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You create a building for a better world, for sure.
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你是在創造創造一棟 讓世界變得更好的建築物,真的。
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But there is something else
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但還有別的因素,
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that makes architecture amazing, even more.
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可以讓建築物更令人驚艷。
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And this is the fact that
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實際上,
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architecture doesn't just answer to need and necessity,
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建築不只是反應了需求與必要性,
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but also to desires -- yes, desires -- dreams, aspirations.
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也反應了人們的渴望——是的, 渴望——夢想、期望。
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This is what architecture does.
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這就是建築在做的事。
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Even the most modest hut on earth
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即使是地球上最簡樸的小屋,
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is not just a roof.
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也不只是一片屋頂。
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It's more than a roof.
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建築除了屋頂,
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It's telling a story;
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它還有故事;
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it's telling a story about the identity of the people living in that hut.
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建築能說明住在 那間小屋裡人的故事。
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Individuals.
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不同建築有不同的故事。
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Architecture is the art of telling stories.
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建築是說故事的藝術。
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Like this one.
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就像這個。
08:58
In London: the Shard of Glass.
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在倫敦:摘星塔摩天大樓。
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Well, this building is the tallest building in Western Europe.
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這棟大樓是西歐最高的大樓。
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It goes up more than 300 meters in the air, to breathe fresh air.
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它的高度超過三百公尺, 在上面呼吸新鮮的空氣。
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The facets of this building are inclined,
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這棟大樓的面是傾斜的,
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and they reflect the sky of London, that is never the same.
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它們會映射出 倫敦多變、不一樣的天空。
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After rain, everything becomes bluish.
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雨後,都變藍的。
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In the sunny evening, everything is red.
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在晴朗的夜晚,都變紅的。
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It's something that is difficult to explain.
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這是很難解釋的現象。
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It's what we call the soul of a building.
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那就是我們所謂的建築物的靈魂。
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On this picture on the left, you have the Menil Collection,
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左邊這張照片上的是 曼尼爾私人收藏博物館,
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used a long time ago.
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很久以前使用的。
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It's a museum.
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它是一間博物館。
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On the right is the Harvard Art Museum.
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右邊的是哈佛藝術博物館。
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Both those two buildings flirt with light.
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兩棟建築物都在和光線調情。
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Light is probably one of the most essential materials in architecture.
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光線可能是建築中最重要的元素。
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And this is in Amsterdam.
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這是阿姆斯特丹。
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This building is flirting with water.
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這棟建築物在和水調情。
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And this is my office, on the sea.
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這是我的辦公室,在海上。
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Well, this is flirting with work.
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這是在和工作調情。
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Actually, we enjoy working there.
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其實,我們很享受在那裡工作。
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And that cable car is the little cable car that goes up to there.
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搭那一台小纜車夠能夠上到那裡。
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That's "The New York Times" in New York.
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這是紐約的「紐約時報」。
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Well, this is playing with transparency.
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這是在和透明度調情。
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Again, the sense of light, the sense of transparency.
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同樣的,光線的感覺 和透明的感覺。
10:29
On the left here, you have the Magic Lantern in Japan,
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左手邊的是日本的魔燈,
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in Ginza, in Tokyo.
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位在日本的銀座。
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And in the center is a monastery in the forest.
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中間的是森林中的修道院。
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This monastery is playing with the silence and the forest.
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這間修道院在和寂靜 及森林一同玩樂。
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And a museum, a science museum.
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這是一間博物館,科學博物館。
10:47
This is about levitation.
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設計重點在於懸浮。
10:51
And this is in the center of Paris,
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這是在巴黎的中心,
10:54
in the belly of the whale.
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在鯨魚的肚子裡。
10:56
This is the Pathé Foundation in Paris.
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這是巴黎的百代電影基金會。
所有這些建築物都有一項共通性:
11:01
All those buildings have something in common:
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it's that something is searching for desire, for dreams.
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這項共通性就是 對慾望和夢想的追求。
11:11
And that's me.
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這是我。
11:12
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
11:13
Well, it's me on my sailing boat.
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我在我的帆船上。
11:17
Flirting with breeze.
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和風調情。
11:20
Well, there's not a very good reason to show you this picture.
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嗯,這並不是給各位看 這張照片的好理由。
11:25
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
11:28
I'm trying, I'm trying.
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我在試,我在試。
11:30
You know, one thing is clear: I love sailing, for sure.
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有件事很清楚:我很愛航海,真的。
11:35
I actually also love designing sailing boats.
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我其實也愛設計帆船。
11:39
But I love sailing, because sailing is associated with slowness.
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但我愛航海,因為航海和緩慢有關。
11:44
And ...
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還有……
11:46
and silence.
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寂靜。
11:48
And the sense of suspension.
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及海上乘風破浪的感受。
11:51
And there is another thing that this picture says.
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這張照片還說明了另外一件事。
11:54
It says that I'm Italian.
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它說我是義大利人。
11:56
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
11:59
Well, there is very little I can do about that.
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嗯,對於這點我是無能為力。
12:02
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
12:04
I'm Italian, and I love beauty.
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我是義大利人,我愛美麗。
12:07
I love beauty.
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我愛美麗。
12:09
Well, let's go sailing, I want to take you sailing here,
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咱們去航海吧,我想要帶各位出海,
12:13
to this place,
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去這個地方,
12:15
in the middle of the Pacific Ocean.
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位在太平洋中央。
12:20
This is the Jean-Marie Tjibaou Center.
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這是棲包屋文化中心。
12:23
It's for the Kanaky ethnic group.
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它是為了卡納克民族所建的。
12:26
It's in Nouméa, New Caledonia.
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位在新喀里多尼亞的努美阿。
12:29
This place is for art.
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建造這個地方是為了藝術。
12:32
Art and nature.
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藝術和大自然。
12:34
And those buildings actually flirt with the wind,
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那些建築物是真的在和風調情,
12:39
with the trade winds.
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和季風調情。
12:41
They have a sound, they have a voice, those buildings.
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那些建築物,它們有聲音。
12:44
I'm showing this because it's about beauty.
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我給各位看這張圖, 是因為它和美有關。
12:47
It's about pure beauty.
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它是純粹的美。
12:50
And let's talk about beauty for a moment.
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咱們先來談一下「美」。
12:53
Beauty is like the bird of paradise:
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美,就像是天堂的鳥 :
12:58
the very moment you try to catch it, it flies away.
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當你就要抓到牠時,牠就飛走了。
13:02
Your arm is too short.
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你的手臂不夠長。
13:06
But beauty is not a frivolous idea.
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但美並不是一個輕佻的想法。
13:11
It's the opposite.
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正好相反。
13:13
In my native language, that is Italian,
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在我的母語,也就是義大利語中,
13:15
"beautiful" is "bello."
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「美麗」叫做「bello」。
13:19
In Spanish, "beauty" is "belleza."
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在西班牙,「美麗」 叫做「belleza。
13:24
In Greek, "beautiful" is "kalos."
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在希臘語,「美麗」 叫做「kalos」。
13:30
When you add "agathos," that means "beautiful and good."
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當你加上「agathos」, 就表示「美麗且美好」。
13:35
In no one of those languages, "beautiful" just means "beautiful."
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在這些語言當中,「美麗」 都不是只有「美麗」的意思。
13:40
It also means "good."
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這個詞也都意味著「美好」。
13:43
Real beauty is when the invisible
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真正的美麗是當看不見的部分
13:48
joins the visible, coming on surface.
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結合了看得見的部分, 而在表像呈現出來。
13:52
And this doesn't apply only to art or nature.
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這個概念不只適用在 藝術或大自然上。
13:58
This applies to science, human curiosity, solidarity --
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也可以用在科學、 人類好奇心、團結——
14:03
that's the reason why you may say,
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那就是為什麼你可能會說:
14:07
"This is a beautiful person,"
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「這是個美麗的人」、
14:10
"That's a beautiful mind."
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「那是個美麗的心靈」。
14:13
This, this is the beauty that can change people
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這種美麗可以讓人
14:17
into better people,
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變成更好的人,
14:18
by switching a special light in their eyes.
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只要轉換他們眼中的光, 變成特殊的光。
14:22
And making buildings for this beauty
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為了這種美麗來打造建築物,
14:25
makes cities better places to live.
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能讓城市成為更棒的居住地。
14:28
And better cities
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更好的城市,
14:31
make better citizens.
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就會有更好的市民。
14:34
Well, this beauty --
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這種美麗——
14:37
this universal beauty, I should say --
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我應該說,這種普遍的美麗——
14:41
is one of the few things that can change the world.
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是少數能夠改變世界的東西之一。
14:46
Believe me, this beauty will save the world.
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相信我,這種美麗能夠拯救世界。
14:50
One person at a time, but it will do it.
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一人一次,就能辦到。
14:55
Thank you.
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謝謝。
14:56
(Applause)
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