The urgent case for antibiotic-free animals | Leon Marchal

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Translator: Ivana Korom Reviewer: Krystian Aparta
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There was a time when simple infections were deadly,
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曾经有一时期,病菌感染是致命的,
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but now, thanks to the wide availability of antibiotics,
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但现在,多亏抗生素的广泛应用,
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this is merely a relic of the past.
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这已成为了历史。
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But actually, I should say "was,"
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其实应该说“曾经已成为历史”,
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because nowadays, we're using antibiotics so much
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因为现在,抗生素使用泛滥
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that the bacteria that cause these infections
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导致引发感染的病菌
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are becoming resistant.
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产生了耐药性。
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And that should really scare the hell out of all of us.
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这实在是应该令所有人感到恐惧。
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If we do not change our behavior and wean ourselves off antibiotics,
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如果我们不改变自己的行为, 继续依赖抗生素,
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the UN predicts that by 2050,
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联合国预测到 2050 年,
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antimicrobial resistance will become our single biggest killer.
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抗生素耐药性 将成为我们最大的杀手。
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So we must start to act.
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因此我们必须马上开始行动。
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But "where to begin" is an interesting question,
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但“从何下手”是一个有趣的问题,
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because we humans are not the only ones using antibiotics.
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因为人类并非是唯一使用抗生素的。
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Worldwide, 50 to 80 percent of all antibiotics are used by animals.
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在世界范围,百分之五十到八十 的抗生素是其他动物使用的。
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Not all of these are critical for human health,
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并非所有这些都对 人类健康至关重要,
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but if we do not get it under control right now,
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但如果我们不从现在 进行控制,
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we're looking at a very scary future for humans and animals alike.
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就会看到对人类和其他动物 非常可怕的未来。
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To begin, let's talk about how we ended up here.
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我们现在开始谈谈 为什么会出现这种情况。
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The first large-scale use of antibiotics was in the early '50s of the last century.
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最初开始大规模使用抗生素 是在上世纪五十年代。
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In the Western world, prosperity was increasing
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在西方世界,社会开始繁荣发展,
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and people wanted to eat more animal protein.
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人们想要食用 更多的动物蛋白。
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When animals were sick, you could now treat them with antibiotics
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动物生病时,人们 有条件用抗生素治疗,
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so they did not die and kept growing.
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动物不会死掉,还会继续生长。
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But soon, it was discovered
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然而不久,人们发现
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that adding small and regular amounts of antibiotics to the feed
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在饲料中规律添加 少量抗生素喂养动物
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kept the animals healthy,
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会让它们保持健康,
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made them grow faster
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生长得更快,
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and caused them to need less feed.
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也更加节省饲料。
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So these antibiotics worked well --
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这些抗生素很有效——
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really well, actually.
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实际上是非常有效。
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And with increasing animal production,
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随着动物数量的增加,
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also antibiotic use skyrocketed worldwide.
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抗生素的用量在全球激增。
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Unfortunately, so did antibiotic resistance.
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不幸的是, 耐药性也随之增加。
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The reason your doctor tells you to finish the entire bottle of antibiotics
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医生让你用掉整瓶 抗生素的原因是,
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is if you shorten your dose, you will not kill all of the bugs.
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如果剂量不足, 病菌不能全部消灭。
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And the ones that stick around build up the antibiotic resistance.
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那些挺过来的病菌会 增加耐药性。
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It's the same problem with giving animals small and regular doses of antibiotics:
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这就像长期给动物 使用小剂量抗生素:
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some bad bugs die but not all of them.
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有些病菌被杀死但不是全部。
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Spread that across an entire industry,
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这种现象在整个行业传播,
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and you can understand that we accidentally build up
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这就难怪,我们无意之间建立了
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a large reservoir of antibiotic-resistant bacteria.
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一个巨大的有耐药性病菌的储藏库。
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But I hate to break it to you --
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我实在不愿意告诉大家——
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the problem doesn't stop there.
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事情并未就此止步。
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You know who else takes antibiotics?
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你们知道还有谁使用抗生素吗?
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Fluffy, your cat, and Rover, your dog.
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毛茸茸的猫,和到处乱跑的狗。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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Pets rank even amongst the heaviest users of all,
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宠物在使用抗生素 上名列前茅,
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and they use antibiotics
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它们使用的抗生素
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that are much more critical for human health.
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比人类健康所需的更厉害。
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Combine this with how close we live with our companion animals
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再联系到我们和这些 与我们相伴的动物多么亲密,
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and you understand the risk
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就可以想象, 你从自己的宠物那里
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of you picking up antibiotic-resistant bacteria from your own pet.
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传染到具有耐药性细菌的危险有多大。
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But how do these antibiotic-resistant bacteria
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但带有耐药性病菌的 农场动物
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in farm animals affect you?
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怎么影响你呢?
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Let me give you an example we have, actually, data on.
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让我举个例子,或者说是提供数据。
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The levels of antibiotic-resistant salmonella in pigs in Europe
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欧洲猪沙门氏菌对
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against different types of antibiotics
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不同种类抗生素的耐药性水平
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range from less than a percent to as high [as] 60 percent.
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范围从小于百分之一 一直高达百分之六十。
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Which means that in most cases,
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这就意味在大多数情况下,
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this antibiotic will not work anymore to kill this salmonella.
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这些抗生素不再对沙门氏菌有效。
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And there was a high correlation
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猪体内耐药沙门氏菌与最终的
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between antibiotic-resistant salmonella in the pig
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猪肉产品内的沙门氏菌
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and in the final product.
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有很大的相关性。
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Whether that is pork chop,
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不管产品是猪排、
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spare ribs or minced meat.
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肋排还是猪肉馅。
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Now, luckily, typically less than one percent
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幸运的是现在一般只有 小于百分之一的
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of all raw meat, fish or eggs
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生肉、鱼和鸡蛋
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will contain salmonella.
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含有沙门氏菌。
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And this only poses a risk when not treated well.
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只有在烹饪不当时 才会有风险。
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Still, there are over 100,000 human salmonella cases in the EU
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但在欧盟依然有十万例 沙门氏菌感染病例,
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and more than a million cases in the US.
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在美国有超过百万例。
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In the US, leading to 23,000 hospitalizations
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在美国,每年有两万三千人住院,
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and 450 people dead each year.
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四百五十人死亡。
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With antibiotic-resistant salmonella on the rise,
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随着耐药沙门氏菌的增加,
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this death toll is likely to increase.
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死亡病例也会增加。
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But it's not only about consuming yourself.
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这还不只是关乎个人食用。
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This year, more than 100 people got infected
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今年,超过一百人受到了
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with a multidrug-resistant salmonella
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抗药性 沙门氏菌的感染,
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after feeding pig ears, as a treat, to their dog.
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只因为给他们的狗 喂食了猪耳朵。
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So we really must cut back on antibiotic use in animal production.
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所以我们必须对 动物使用抗生素有所节制。
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And luckily, this is starting to happen.
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好消息是,这种节制已经开始了。
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The EU was the first region to ban
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欧盟是首个禁止在饲料中
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putting antibiotics in low doses in the feed.
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添加小剂量抗生素的地区。
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From '99 on, in several steps,
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从 1999 年开始,分步实施,
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the amount of different types of antibiotics allowed was reduced,
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不同种类的抗生素用量都在减少,
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and in 2006, a complete ban went into place.
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到 2006 年,达到了全面禁止。
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Antibiotics were only allowed
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只有在兽医认为
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when a veterinarian determined the animal was sick.
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动物生病的情况下 才可以使用抗生素。
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Sounds great, right?
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听起来很棒,对吗?
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Problem solved.
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问题解决了。
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No, wait, not so fast.
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并没有这么快。
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As soon as the reduction program started,
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减药计划一开始,
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it was very quickly discovered
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人们很快就发现
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that antibiotics had been the perfect blanket
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抗生素完美地掩盖了
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to cover up a lot of bad farm practices.
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农场很多不好的做法。
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More and more animals became sick
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越来越多动物生病,
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and needed to be cured with ... antibiotics.
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需要治疗...用抗生素。
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So instead of the total amount going down,
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结果用药总量不但没有下降,
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it actually increased.
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反而还上升了。
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Surely, that was not the way to go.
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当然,事情不能这样发展下去。
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But luckily, that was not the end of the story.
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幸运的是,故事没有结束。
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The whole European agricultural sector started on a journey,
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整个欧洲的农业部门开始了一段征程,
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and I think it's a journey anybody can learn from.
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我认为每个人都可以 从这场征程中获益。
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This is also the time I personally entered the scene.
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这也是我个人涉入的时机。
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I joined a large European feed compounder.
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我加入了一家大型欧洲饲料混合公司。
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A feed compounder makes a total diet for a farmer to feed to his animals
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这家饲料混合公司为农户提供 喂养动物的全部饲料,
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and often also provides the advice
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也常常提供关于如何 以最佳方式
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on how to raise the animals in the best way.
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饲养动物的咨询意见。
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I was really motivated to work together with my colleagues,
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我非常有动力和同事们、兽医们、
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veterinarians and, of course, the farmers
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当然还有农户一起工作,
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to figure out how to keep the animals healthy and antibiotic-free.
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找出保证动物健康, 又避免使用抗生素的办法。
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Now there are three major things that need to happen
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对于无抗生素产品, 我们可以采取
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for antibiotic-free production.
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三项重要的措施。
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Let me walk you through the playbook.
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我们来一起看看是什么。
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To start -- and it sounds very obvious --
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很明显,第一步是
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that our hygiene is the place to start.
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保持卫生。
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Better cleaning of the stable and the drinking-water lines
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更清洁的畜棚和 更干净的供水
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making it harder for the disease to come in and spread across the stable.
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可以使病原体难以进入、 难以在畜棚中蔓延。
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That's all very important,
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这点很重要。
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but the part I was personally most interested in
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但我个人最感兴趣的部分是
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was better feeding for the animals,
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如何更好地饲养动物,
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better nutrition.
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提供更好的营养。
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Feeding a well-balanced diet is important.
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用营养平衡的饲料进行喂养很重要。
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Think about it this way:
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我们来这样想:
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when you yourself do not eat enough fiber, you do not feel well.
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你自己若是摄入的纤维不足, 身体就会感觉不适。
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Part of the food you consume is not digested by yourself
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一部分的食物不能好好消化,
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but fermented in your large intestine by bacteria.
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细菌使其在大肠里发酵。
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So you're feeding those microbes with part of your diet.
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所以你是在用你自己的 饮食喂养细菌。
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Initially, most young animals were fed low-fiber,
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最初,大多动物幼崽 被喂养了低纤维、
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high-starch and protein,
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高淀粉和蛋白的饲料,
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very finely ground and highly digestible diets.
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研磨得很细,极易消化。
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Like being yourself on a diet of hamburger buns,
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就像你自己的汉堡包、米饭、
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rice, waffles and protein bars.
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华夫饼和蛋白质棒的饮食。
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We changed this to a lower-protein,
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我们把这个改为低蛋白、
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higher-fiber, coarser type of diet.
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高纤维素、粗糙的饮食。
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Like being on a diet of whole grains, salad with meat or beans.
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就像我们的全麦、有肉类和 豆类的沙拉。
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This shifted the bacterial flora in the animals' guts
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这就用更有益的细菌代替了
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to the more beneficial ones
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动物肠道中的细菌菌群,
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and reduced the chance that pathogens would flourish.
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并减少了病原体繁殖的机会。
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You might be surprised
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你可能还会惊奇地发现,
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but not only diet composition, also diet structure plays a role.
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除了饮食的成分,饮食结构 也能发挥积极的作用。
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Simply the fact that the same diet is coarser
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仅仅是粗糙的饮食
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will lead to a better-developed digestive tract,
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都会让消化道更发达,
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and thus, a healthier animal.
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因而让动物更加健康。
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But the best part was that farmers started to buy this actually, too.
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最令人欣喜的是,农户们 实际上也开始购买这样的饲料。
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Unlike some other parts of the world,
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与世界上有些地方不同,西欧的
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Western European farmers mainly still make their independent buying decisions:
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农户大部分依旧独立做出购买决定:
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who to buy the feed from and sell their animals to.
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向谁购买饲料,以及将动物卖给谁。
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So what you're actually selling in the end
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所以最终的出售
反映了当地对农户的需求。
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reflects the actual local need of these farmers.
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For example,
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例如,
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the protein content in piglet diets
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猪仔饲料中的蛋白含量,
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in countries that are much more vigilant in reducing antibiotics,
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在对抗生素保持高度警惕的国家,
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like, for example, Germany and the Netherlands,
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像德国和荷兰,
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were already 10 to 15 percent lower
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比采取措施慢的国家,像英国
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than in a country like the UK, which was slower to pick this up.
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已经低了百分之十到十五。
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But, like with better hygiene, better nutrition helps
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如同改善卫生条件一样, 改善饮食也有助于预防疾病,
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but will not totally prevent you from becoming sick.
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但并不能完全根除。
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So more is needed.
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所以我们需要做更多的事情。
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And that's why we turned to the microbiome.
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这是我们求助于微生物组的原因。
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Making the water with the feed more acidic
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让饲料中的水呈酸性
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helps to create an environment
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有助于建立对有益细菌
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that benefits the more beneficial bacteria
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更好的生存环境,
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and inhibits the pathogens.
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并可抑制病原体的生长。
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Like fermented food,
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就像发酵过的食物,
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whether it's yogurt, sauerkraut or salami,
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酸奶、酸菜和腊肠,
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they'll all spoil less quickly, too.
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都不会很快变质。
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Now, with modern techniques,
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如今利用现代技术,
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like the ones based on DNA testing,
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例如基于 DNA 测试的技术,
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we can see that there are many more different microorganisms present.
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我们可以看到存在更多 不同的微生物。
08:27
And this ecosystem, which we call the microbiome,
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这种我们称之为微生物组的生态系统
08:30
is much more complex.
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要复杂很多。
08:33
Turns out there are about eight times more microorganisms in your gut
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事实证明,肠道中的微生物数量是
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as tissue cells in your body.
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体内组织细胞数量的八倍。
08:39
And for animals, the impact is no less.
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对于动物的影响也旗鼓相当。
08:43
So if we want to work without antibiotics in animal production,
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所以如果我们要让动物产品中 不含抗生素,
08:46
we have to make the animals much more robust.
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就需要让动物更加健壮。
08:49
So that when a disease strikes,
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这样当病菌来袭,
08:51
the animals are much more resilient.
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动物就能具有更强的抵抗力。
08:53
And this three-pronged nutribiosis approach
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这种三管齐下,
08:56
involving the host, nutrition and the microbiome
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涉及饲养环境、营养 和微生物组的营养疗法
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is the way to do it.
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才是正确的方法。
09:02
Now the practice of raising animals on an antibiotic-containing
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现在用含抗生素饲养动物的做法
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or antibiotic-use-provoking diet is a bit cheaper at farm level.
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或激发使用抗生素的方法 对农场来说要便宜一些。
09:11
But in the end, we are talking about a few percent at the consumer level.
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但最终我们谈及的是在消费者那边 百分之几的差异。
09:14
That's actually quite affordable
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对世界上中高水平
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for the middle- and high-income part of the world population.
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收入的人群来说,还是承担得起的。
09:19
And a very small price to pay
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考虑到我们和亲人的健康,
09:21
when our own health or our loved ones' health is at stake.
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那是一个很小的代价。
09:25
So what do you think, what direction do we take?
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那么大家认为我们应该 走向哪个方向?
09:28
Do we allow antimicrobial resistance to become our biggest killer,
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我们是要让耐药抗生素 变成最大的杀手,
09:33
at huge financial and a special personal cost?
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以巨大的社会经济 和个人健康为代价?
09:36
Or do we, besides reducing human antibiotic consumption,
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还是我们在减少 人类抗生素使用的同时,
09:41
truly start embracing antibiotic-free animal production?
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真正开始准备迎接 无抗生素的肉类产品?
09:45
For me, the choice is very obvious.
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对我来说,如何选择是很明显的。
09:48
But to make this happen,
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但要实现这个目标,
09:49
we have to set reduction targets
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我们需要设置削减目标,
09:51
and make sure that they're followed all around the world.
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保证全世界都会遵守。
09:54
Because farmers compete with each other.
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因为农户们都在相互竞争。
09:56
And at a country level,
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在国家层面,
09:57
trading block or the global market,
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贸易壁垒或全球化的市场,
09:59
costs are very important.
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成本非常重要。
10:01
And also, we have to be realistic.
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我们也必须实际一些。
10:03
Farmers need to have the possibilities
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农民需要有更多的机会投资于
10:05
to invest more in better management and better feed
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更好的管理和更好的饲料,
10:08
in order to achieve this reduction.
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以实现减少抗生素的目标。
10:11
And besides legal limits, the market can play a role,
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除了法律上的限制,市场 也可以通过提供抗生素少
10:14
by offering antibiotic-reduced or antibiotic-free products.
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或无抗生素的产品来发挥作用。
10:19
And with growing consumer awareness,
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随着消费者的觉醒,
10:21
these market forces will increase in power.
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市场的力量将会增加。
10:24
Now everything I've been talking about seems to be great for us.
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我现在谈论的事情看来对我们很棒。
10:27
But what about the animals?
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但是动物们呢?
10:30
Now, guess what, their lives get better, too.
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你猜怎么样,它们的日子也会更好。
10:32
Better health, less stress, happier life.
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更加健康、更少压力、更幸福的生活。
10:35
So now you know.
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所以你们现在知道了,
10:37
We have the knowledge how to produce meat, eggs and milk
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我们有不用抗生素,或使用很少抗生素
10:42
without or with very low amounts of antibiotics,
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生产肉类、蛋类和乳制品的知识,
10:45
and I'll argue it's a small price to pay
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我会说这是避免细菌感染再次成为
10:48
to avoid a future in which bacterial infections
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我们最大杀手
10:51
again become our biggest killer.
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所付的很小的代价。
10:53
Thank you.
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谢谢。
10:55
(Applause)
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