The world doesn't need more nuclear weapons | Erika Gregory

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Translator: Joseph Geni Reviewer: Camille Martínez
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翻译人员: Conway Ye 校对人员: He Huang
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Let me ask you all a question.
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让我问大家一个问题:
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How much weapons-grade nuclear material do you think it would take
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你觉得需要多少军用级核原料
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to level a city the size of San Francisco?
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才能将旧金山这么大 的城市夷为平地?
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How many of you think it would be an amount
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有谁觉得大概是
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about the size of this suitcase?
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这个行李箱的大小?
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OK. And how about this minibus?
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或者是这辆小巴的大小呢?
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All right.
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好吧。
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Well actually, under the right circumstances,
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事实上,在理想情况下,
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an amount of highly enriched uranium about the size of your morning latte
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一杯拿铁咖啡大小的 高度浓缩铀,
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would be enough to kill 100,000 people
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足以在片刻之内
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instantly.
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杀死数十万人。
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Hundreds of thousands of others would become horribly ill,
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另外还有成百上千的人 会遭受可怕疾病的折磨,
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and parts of the city would be uninhabitable for years,
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城市的部分地区会 成为生命的禁区长达数年,
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if not for decades.
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甚至数十年。
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But you can forget that nuclear latte,
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当然,现在大家不用想这杯拿铁的事儿
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because today's nuclear weapons are hundreds of times more powerful
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因为当今的核武器
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even than those we dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
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比当年投在广岛和长崎的 原子弹还要强大数百倍。
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And even a limited nuclear war involving, say, tens of nuclear weapons,
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即使爆发一次小规模的核战, 假设说仅使用了十几颗核弹头,
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could lead to the end of all life on the planet.
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那也足以造成整个地球上生命的灭绝。
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So it's really important that you know
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所以各位一定要知道,
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that right now we have over 15,000 nuclear weapons
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现在世界上有超过15000枚核武器,
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in the hands of nine nations.
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掌握在九个国家的手中。
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And if you live in a city or near a military facility,
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如果你住在市中心 或者临近某个军事基地,
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one is likely pointed right at you.
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那么某颗核武器 可能正瞄准着你的位置。
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In fact, if you live in any of the rural areas
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而且就算你住在郊区,
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where nuclear weapons are stored globally,
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那正是全球核武器一般储存的地方,
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one is likely pointed at you.
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你仍然有可能被瞄准着。
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About 1,800 of these weapons are on high alert,
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其中大约有1800枚核武器 处于高度警戒状态,
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which means they can be launched within 15 minutes
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这意味着它们能在 十五分钟之内发动攻击
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of a presidential command.
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仅需要总统的一声令下。
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So I know this is a bummer of an issue,
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我知道这是一个令人头疼的问题,
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and maybe you have that -- what was it? -- psychic fatigue
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你可能觉得……怎么说来着?
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that we heard about a little bit earlier.
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心理疲劳,我们刚刚听过的。
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So I'm going to switch gears for just a second,
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所以我要暂时换一个话题,
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and I'm going to talk about my imaginary friend,
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我要谈谈一位我假想的朋友,
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who I like to think of as Jasmine,
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我将她取名为Jasmine 吧,
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just for a moment.
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暂时的。
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Jasmine, at the age of 25,
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Jasmine,25岁,
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is part of a generation that is more politically and socially engaged
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她属于50年之内最关注
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than anything we've seen in 50 years.
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政治与社会的一代人。
她和她的朋友认为自己
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She and her friends think of themselves
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as change agents and leaders and activists.
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是改革者、领导者和积极行动者。
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I think of them as Generation Possible.
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我认为他们是“希望一代”。
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They regularly protest about the issues they care about,
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他们常常对关注的问题发声,
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but nuclear weapons are not one of them, which makes sense,
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但是核武问题却不是其中之一, 不过这其实可以理解,
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because Jasmine was born in 1991, at the end of the Cold War.
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因为Jasmine 出生在1991年, 也就是冷战结束的时期。
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So she didn't grow up hearing a lot about nuclear weapons.
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所以在她成长过程中 并没有经常听到核武问题的报道。
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She never had to duck and cover under her desk at school.
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她也从不需要弯腰躲在学校书桌下。
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For Jasmine, a fallout shelter is an app in the Android store.
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对于Jasmine 来说,“辐射避难所” 只是一款安卓软件的名称。
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Nuclear weapons help win games.
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“核武器”能帮你在游戏中取胜。
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And that is really a shame,
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然而这真的很遗憾,
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because right now, we need Generation Possible
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因为现在,我们需要这“希望一代”
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to help us make some really important decisions about nuclear weapons.
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在核武问题上, 为我们作出重要决定。
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For instance, will we further reduce our nuclear arsenals globally,
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比如,我们是要进一步减少 全球核武器军备,
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or will we spend billions,
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还是说我们会花费数十亿美金,
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maybe a trillion dollars,
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甚至上万亿美金,
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to modernize them so they last throughout the 21st century,
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在整个21世纪继续研发、升级核武器,
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so that by the time Jasmine is my age, she's talking to her children
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使得Jasmine 到我的年龄的时候, 她不得不跟她的孩子,
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and maybe even her grandchildren
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可能还有孙子孙女
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about the threat of nuclear holocaust?
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谈论核武器灾难的威胁呢?
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And if you're paying any attention at all to cyberthreats,
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而且,如果你关注网络攻击,
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or, for instance, if you've read about the Stuxnet virus
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或者,假如你听说过“震网病毒”,
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or, for God's sake, if you've ever had an email account or a Yahoo account
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又或者,看在上帝的份上, 如果你的邮箱或雅虎账号
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or a phone hacked,
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或手机曾经被侵入过,
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you can imagine the whole new world of hurt that could be triggered
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你便可以想象, 随着网络战争的升级,
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by modernization in a period of cyberwarfare.
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将会给整个世界带来多大的伤害
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Now, if you're paying attention to the money,
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如果你更关心金钱,
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a trillion dollars could go a long way
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一万亿美金可以在 很长的一段时间里
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to feeding and educating and employing people,
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用来教育、提供工作,养活一大批人。
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all of which could reduce the threat of nuclear war to begin with.
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这些都能够从源头减少核战的威胁。
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So --
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所以……
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(Applause)
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(掌声)
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This is really crucial right now,
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现在是非常关键的时刻,
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because nuclear weapons -- they're vulnerable.
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因为核武器并不稳定。
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We have solid evidence
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我们有确凿的证据表明
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that terrorists are trying to get ahold of them.
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恐怖分子正在尝试夺取它们。
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Just this last spring,
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就在去年春天,
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when four retirees and two taxi drivers were arrested
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四个退休人员和两个的士司机
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in the Republic of Georgia
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在格鲁吉亚被捕,
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for trying to sell nuclear materials for 200 million dollars,
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因为他们试图以2亿美元 的价格销售核原料,
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they demonstrated that the black market for this stuff is alive and well.
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这充分表明了此类交易 在黑市上存在并活跃着。
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And it's really important,
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这里的关键在于,
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because there have been dozens of accidents
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涉及核武器的意外事件
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involving nuclear weapons,
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已经出现过几十次了,
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and I bet most of us have never heard anything about them.
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我打赌绝大多数人都没有听说过。
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Just here in the United States,
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仅在美国这,
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we've dropped nuclear weapons on the Carolinas twice.
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我们的核武器在卡罗莱纳州 意外坠落过两次。
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In one case, one of the bombs,
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其中一次,一颗核弹,
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which fell out of an Air Force plane,
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从一架空军飞机中掉出,
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didn't detonate
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没有爆炸,
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because the nuclear core was stored somewhere else on the plane.
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因为核弹核心被分离储存在飞机的其他地方。
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In another case, the weapon did arm when it hit the ground,
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另外一次,掉落到地面的核弹已经要引爆,
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and five of the switches designed to keep it from detonating failed.
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有五个防止意外爆炸的保险都失效了,
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Luckily, the sixth one didn't.
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幸运的是,第六个保险起了效果。
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But if that's not enough to get your attention,
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如果这还不够引起你的注意,
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there was the 1995 Black Brant incident.
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在1995年的挪威火箭发射事件,
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That's when Russian radar technicians saw
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俄罗斯的雷达探测员 检测到一个导弹,
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what they thought was a US nuclear missile
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他们误以为是美国的核导弹
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streaking towards Russian airspace.
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正向俄罗斯飞来。
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It later turned out to be a Norwegian rocket
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他们后来才发现 那只是挪威的火箭,
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collecting data about the northern lights.
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用来收集北极光的有关数据。
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But at that time,
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但是那个时候,
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Russian President Boris Yeltsin came within five minutes
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俄罗斯总统鲍里斯·叶利钦
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of launching a full-scale retaliatory nuclear attack
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只差五分钟就要决定向美国发动
全副武装的复仇式核武打击。
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against the United States.
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So, most of the world's nuclear nations
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因此世界上大多数拥核国家
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have committed to getting rid of these weapons of mass destruction.
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都决定逐步削减那些大规模杀伤性武器。
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But consider this:
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但是想想看,
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the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons,
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“核不扩散条约”,
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which is the most widely adopted arms control treaty in history
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历史上被最多国家共同认可的军备控制条约
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with 190 signatories,
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共计190余国签字,
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sets no specific date by which the world's nuclear-armed nations
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却没有一个明确的目标时间
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will get rid of their nuclear weapons.
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来彻底消除核武器。
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Now, when John F. Kennedy sent a man to the moon
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当约翰·肯尼迪想要把人类送上月球,
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and decided to bring him back, or decided to do both those things,
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以及还想把人活着带回来时,
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he didn't say, "Hey, whenever you guys get to it."
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他并不是说,你们随便何时完成任务都行
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He gave us a deadline.
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他给了我们一个期限。
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He gave us a challenge
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同时这是一个挑战,
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that would have been incredible just a few years earlier.
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在登月计划实现的几年前 那仍然是天方夜谭。
但在挑战的压力下,
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And with that challenge,
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he inspired scientists and marketers,
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他启发了科学家和营销者,
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astronauts and schoolteachers.
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宇航员和教师。
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He gave us a vision.
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他给我们了一片愿景。
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But along with that vision,
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除了这片愿景,
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he also tried to give us -- and most people don't know this, either --
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他也曾尝试让我们—— 其实大多数人都不知道,
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he tried to give us a partner
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他尝试让我们与另一国家合作,
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in the form of our fiercest Cold War rival, the Soviet Union.
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那就是冷战时期的劲敌——苏联。
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Because part of Kennedy's vision for the Apollo program
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因为肯尼迪对阿波罗计划的愿景中,
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was that it be a cooperation, not a competition, with the Soviets.
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是与苏联合作,而非竞争。
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And apparently, Nikita Khrushchev, the Soviet Premier, agreed.
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显而易见,苏共总书记 尼基塔·赫鲁晓夫同意了。
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But before that cooperation could be realized,
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但是在合作实现之前,
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Kennedy was assassinated,
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肯尼迪被刺杀了,
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and that part of the vision was deferred.
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这一片美好的愿景也成了泡影。
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But the promise of joint innovation between these two nuclear superpowers
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但是这两个强大的核武国家 之间进行合作的承诺,
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wasn't totally extinguished.
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并没有被完全扑灭。
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Because in 1991, which is the year that Jasmine was born
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因为在1991年, Jasmine 出生那年,
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and the Soviet Union fell,
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苏联解体了,
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these two nations engaged in a project
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之后这两个国家在同一个项目上的合作,
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that genuinely does seem incredible today
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在现在看起来都无与伦比,
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in the truest sense of that word,
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怎么形容都不觉得过分,
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which is that the US sent cash to the Russians when they needed it most,
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在俄罗斯最需要钱的时候 美国向其提供现金,
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to secure loose nuclear materials
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来保护核原料的安全
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and to employ out-of-work nuclear scientists.
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和聘用失业的核物理学家。
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They worked alongside American scientists to convert weapons-grade uranium
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他们和美国科学家一道, 把武器级别的高浓缩铀,
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into the type of fuel that can be used for nuclear power instead.
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转化成核能发电的燃料。
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They called it, "Megatons to Megawatts."
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他们称其为“兆吨换兆瓦”。
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So the result is that for over 20 years,
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结果就是,在这个计划执行了20年后,
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our two nations had a program
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这个对于两个国家来说,
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that meant that one in 10 lightbulbs in the United States
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意味着美国十分之一的灯泡
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was essentially fueled by former Russian warheads.
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是由之前俄罗斯的核弹头驱动的。
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So, together these two nations did something truly audacious.
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这两个国家携手 迈出了勇敢的一步。
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But the good news is, the global community has the chance
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好消息是, 如今的国际社会同样也有机会
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to do something just as audacious today.
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和美俄两国多年前一样勇敢。
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To get rid of nuclear weapons
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想要摆脱核武器,
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and to end the supply of the materials required to produce them,
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并停止供应核武器生产的原料,
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some experts tell me would take 30 years.
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一些专家告诉我会花30年。
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It would take a renaissance of sorts,
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这需要像文艺复兴般的创新的出现
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the kinds of innovation that, for better or worse,
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新的发明,不论好坏,
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underpinned both the Manhattan Project, which gave rise to nuclear weapons,
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带来了曼哈顿计划, 正是此计划给人来带来了核武器,
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and the Megatons to Megawatts program.
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而“兆吨换兆瓦”计划也是其中之一。
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It would take design constraints.
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还需要有设计上的约束,
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These are fundamental to creativity,
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这些是对创造力必需的基本,
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things like a platform for international collaboration;
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我们需要国际合作平台,
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a date certain, which is a forcing mechanism;
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我们需要一个切实可行的时间表, 作为驱使机制。
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and a positive vision that inspires action.
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同时也需要一个良好的愿景 来鼓励我们采取行动。
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It would take us to 2045.
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这大概需要进行到2045年。
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Now, 2045 happens to be the 100th anniversary
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2045年正好是核武器 在新墨西哥州沙漠
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of the birth of nuclear weapons in the New Mexico desert.
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诞生的100周年。
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But it's also an important date for another reason.
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但是这也是同样一个重要的时间点,
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It's predicted to be the advent of the singularity,
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预测称那年是“奇点”的到来,
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a new moment in human development,
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一个人类发展史的新时代,
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where the lines between artificial intelligence and human intelligence blur,
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人工智能与人类之间的界限逐渐模糊,
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where computing and consciousness become almost indistinguishable
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计算机和人类意识几乎无法分辨,
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and advanced technologies help us solve the 21st century's greatest problems:
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先进科技届时帮助我们 解决21世纪最大的问题:
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hunger, energy, poverty,
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饥饿,能源,贫困,
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ushering in an era of abundance.
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进入一个富足的时代。
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And we all get to go to space
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我们都能够去太空
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on our way to becoming a multi-planetary species.
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成为多星球的种族。
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Now, the people who really believe this vision are the first to say
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相信这个愿景的人说
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they don't yet know precisely how we're going to get there.
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他们还无法确切知道 如何实现这些愿景。
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But the values behind their vision
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但是他们愿景的价值
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and the willingness to ask "How might we?"
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以及问出“我们能怎么做?”的精神
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have inspired a generation of innovators.
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已经启发了一代创新者。
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They're working backward from the outcomes they want,
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他们从他们想要的成果出发,
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using the creative problem-solving methods of collaborative design.
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使用创造性攻克法来合作创新。
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They're busting through obstacles.
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他们跨越障碍,
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They're redefining what we all consider possible.
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他们重新定义人类极限。
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But here's the thing:
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但是问题是,
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that vision of abundance isn't compatible
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富足的愿景和
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with a world that still relies on a 20th-century nuclear doctrine
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一个依旧依赖于“同归于尽”这个陈旧的核信条
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called "mutually assured destruction."
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的世界不相匹配。
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It has to be about building the foundations for the 22nd century.
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我们现在需要创造一个 供22世纪的世界有序运行的基础。
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It has to be about strategies for mutually assured prosperity
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这必须是一个 可以保证共同繁荣的策略
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or, at the very least, mutually assured survival.
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当然 至少需要保障 人类可以和平共存。
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Now, every day, I get to meet people who are real pioneers
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每天,我都会与在消除核威胁
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in the field of nuclear threats.
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上的真正先驱们会面。
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As you can see, many of them are young women,
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他们中的很多人都是年轻女性,
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and they're doing fiercely interesting stuff,
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她们取得了一些瞩目 并且有趣的成就,
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like Mareena Robinson Snowden here, who is developing new ways,
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像马奈娜·鲁滨孙·斯诺登, 在研究新的方式,
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better ways, to detect nuclear warheads,
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更好的方式,来侦查核弹头,
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which will help us overcome a critical hurdle
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能够帮助我们解决国际性
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to international disarmament.
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解除武装的难题。
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Or Melissa Hanham, who is using satellite imaging
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或者麦丽莎·汉汉姆,用卫星图片
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to make sense of what's going on around far-flung nuclear sites.
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研究核设施的动态。
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Or we have Beatrice Fihn in Europe,
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或者像在欧洲的比阿特丽·费恩,
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who has been campaigning to make nuclear weapons illegal
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致力于宣传,让核武器在
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in international courts of law,
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国际法庭上非法化,
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and just won a big victory at the UN last week.
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上周刚在联合国取得重大胜利。
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(Applause)
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(掌声)
11:56
And yet,
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但是,
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and yet,
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但是,
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with all of our talk in this culture about moon shots,
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在这个谈论不可能实现的文化下,
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too few members of Generation Possible and those of us who mentor them
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太少的“希望一代”和教导他们的我们
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are taking on nuclear weapons.
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在着手解决核武器。
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It's as if there's a taboo.
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似乎这方面是一个禁区。
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But I remember something Kennedy said that has really stuck with me,
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但是我记得肯尼迪说过的, 很打动我的东西:
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and that is something to the effect
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事实上,
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that humans can be as big as the solutions
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人类的伟大正体现在
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to all the problems we've created.
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我们能够解决所有我们造成麻烦,
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No problem of human destiny, he said,
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人类未来前途光明,
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is beyond human beings.
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未来只掌握在人类自己手中。
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I believe that.
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我对此深信不疑,
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And I bet a lot of you here believe that, too.
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我相信你们中的很多人也相信这个。
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And I know Generation Possible believes it.
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我知道“希望一代”也相信这个。
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So it's time to commit to a date.
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是时候定下一个日期。
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Let's end the nuclear weapons chapter
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让我们在它核武诞生的100周年,
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on the 100th anniversary of its inception.
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结束核武时代。
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After all, by 2045, we will have held billions of people hostage
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但是,直到2045年, 我们会把几十亿人当成
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to the threat of nuclear annihilation.
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核武器威胁的人质。
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Surely, 100 years will have been enough.
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无疑,一百年足够,
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Surely, a century of economic development
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无疑,一个世纪的经济发展
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and the development of military strategy
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和军事战略发展
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will have given us better ways to manage global conflict.
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能够给我们一个更好 控制全球冲突的方式。
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Surely, if ever there was a global moon shot worth supporting,
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无疑,如果有一个值得支持的 伟大的全球项目,
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this is it.
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就是这个了。
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Now, in the face of real threats --
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现在,面对真正的威胁,
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for instance, North Korea's recent nuclear weapons tests,
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比如,朝鲜最近的核武器测试,
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which fly in the face of sanctions --
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藐视制裁,
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reasonable people disagree
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理智的人正在争论
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about whether we should maintain some number of nuclear weapons
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关于我们是否需要留下一定数量的核武器
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to deter aggression.
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来震慑暴力。
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But the question is: What's the magic number?
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但是,问题是,数量应该是多少?
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Is it a thousand?
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一千个吗?
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Is it a hundred? Ten?
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一百个吗?十个?
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And then we have to ask:
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然后我们一定要问:
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Who should be responsible for them?
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“谁应该为它们承担责任?”
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I think we can agree, however,
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我认为我们可以同意,
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that having 15,000 of them represents a greater global threat
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一万五千个核武器的存在 比所谓的承诺
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to Jasmine's generation than a promise.
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对Jasmine 一代人的威胁更大。
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So it's time we make a promise
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所以是时候我们许下承诺,
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of a world in which we've broken the stranglehold
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保证一个世界,使核武器
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that nuclear weapons have on our imaginations;
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消失在我们的想象里,
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in which we invest in the creative solutions
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我们向具有创造力的解决方案投资,
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that come from working backward from the future we desperately want,
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从我们为我们渴望的未来而努力,
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rather than plodding forward from a present
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而不是缓慢地从现在出发,
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that brings all of the mental models and biases of the past with it.
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并带着过去所有的陈规旧习和偏见。
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It's time we pledge our resources as leaders across the spectrum
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是时候我们宣誓像领导者一样 使用我们的资源,
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to work on this old problem in new ways,
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用新方式解决旧的问题,
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to ask, "How might we?"
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去问:“我们该怎么做?”
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How might we make good on a promise
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我们该如何许下一个好的承诺,
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of greater security for Jasmine's generation
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保证Jasmine 一代人更安全的环境
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in a world beyond nuclear weapons?
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在一个没有核武器的世界。
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I truly hope you will join us.
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我真的相信你会加入我们。
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Thank you.
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谢谢。
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(Applause)
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[“www.nsquare.org”](掌声)
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Thank you.
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[“www.nsquare.org”]谢谢。
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(Applause)
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(掌声)
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