James Forbes: Compassion at the dinner table

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翻译人员: Chunlei Chang 校对人员: Li Chen
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Compassion:
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同情心。
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what does it look like?
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同情心看起来是什么样的?
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Come with me to 915 South Bloodworth Street
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跟我一起来到北卡罗莱纳州
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in Raleigh, North Carolina, where I grew up.
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的南布拉德沃斯大街上,我成长的地方。
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If you come in you will see us: evening time,
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如果你进来,你会在晚上看到我们,
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at table -- set for ten but not always all seats filled --
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十个人围成一桌,但并不是每个位子上都有人。
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at the point when dinner is ready to be served.
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晚餐准备好的时候,
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Since mom had eight kids,
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因为妈妈有八个孩子,
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sometimes she said she couldn't tell who was who and where they were.
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有时她说她分不清谁是谁,都在哪儿。
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Before we could eat, she would ask,
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但我们吃饭之前,她会问,
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"Are all the children in?"
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“所有的孩子们都在吗?”
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And if someone happened to be missing,
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如果有人偶尔不在,
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we would have to, we say, "Fix a plate" for that person, put it in the oven,
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我们就会说,留一个盘子给他,放到烤箱里。
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then we could say grace, and we could eat.
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接着我们感恩祷告,然后开吃。
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Also, while we were at the table,
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所以,当大家坐在桌子前面的时候,
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there was a ritual in our family:
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这是我们家的一个仪式,
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when something significant had happened for any one of us --
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当任何人身上发生意义重大的事情时,
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whether mom had just been elected as the president of the PTA,
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比如当妈妈被选举为家长教师会(PTA)的主席的时候,
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or whether dad had gotten an assignment at the college of our denomination,
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或者当爸爸得到一份我们大学的教会的工作时。
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or whether someone had won the jabberwocky contest for talent --
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或者有谁赢得口才比赛的时候,
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the ritual at the family was, once the announcement is made,
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我们家庭的传统仪式就是,在宣布完之后,
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we must take five, ten minutes to do what we call "make over" that person --
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我们必须花五到十分钟时间来跟那个人总结一下,
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that is, to make a fuss over the one who had been honored in some way.
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就是,认认真真的表扬一下那个获得荣誉的人,
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For when one is honored, all are honored.
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就是一个人光荣,所有人都光荣。
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Also, we had to make a report on our extended "visited" members,
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同样,我们还必须向我们的家族的客人报告一下。
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that is, extended members of the family,
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那就是,家庭的扩展成员,
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sick and elderly, shut in.
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那些无法外出的病人和年长的人。
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My task was, at least once a week, to visit Mother Lassiter
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我的任务是,至少一周一次去拜访东街的
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who lived on East Street,
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拉斯特大妈,
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Mother Williamson who lived on Bledsoe Avenue,
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以及布莱索大道的威廉森大妈,
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and Mother Lathers who lived on Oberlin Road.
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还有欧柏林路的拉舒大妈。
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Why? Because they were old and infirm,
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为什么?因为他们年迈体弱。
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and we needed to go by to see if they needed anything.
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所以我们需要过去看看他们是不是需要任何东西。
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For mom said, "To be family, is to care and share and to look out for one another.
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妈妈说过:“成为一个家庭,就是要关心和分享,并且去照顾别人。
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They are our family."
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他们也是我们家庭的成员.”
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And, of course, sometimes there was a bonus for going.
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当然,偶尔也会有奖励。
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They would offer sweets or money.
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他们会准备一些糖果和零花钱。
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Mom says, "If they ask you what it costs to either go shopping for them,
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妈妈说“如果他们问你买东西花了多少钱,
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you must always say, 'Nothing.'
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你必须说,'不要钱'
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And if they insist, say, 'Whatever you mind to give me.'"
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如果他们坚持你就说,‘不管怎样你随便给一点’”
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This was the nature of being at that table.
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这是我们饭桌上的人的天性。
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In fact, she indicated that if we would do that,
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事实上,她表现出了,如果我们那样去做,
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not only would we have the joy of receiving the gratitude
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不只是我们会有收到扩展成员
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from the members of the extended family,
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的感激的喜悦,
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but she said, "Even God will smile, and when God smiles,
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她还说,“上帝也会微笑,并且上帝微笑的时候,
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there is peace, and justice, and joy."
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世间就充满了和平,公正和喜悦。”
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So, at the table at 915, I learned something about compassion.
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所以,在915的饭桌上,我学到了关于同情心很多东西。
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Of course, it was a minister's family,
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当然,这是一个牧师的家庭,
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so we had to add God into it.
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所以我们必须把上帝也算进去。
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And so, I came to think that mama eternal, mama eternal,
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因此,我一直在想永恒的妈妈
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is always wondering: Are all the children in?
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一直在问:“所有的孩子都在吗?”
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And if we had been faithful in caring and sharing,
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并且,如果我们坚持关心和分享,
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we had the sense that justice and peace would have a chance in the world.
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我们就坚信这个世界上公正和和平终会实现。
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Now, it was not always wonderful at that table.
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现在,那个饭桌并不总是美好的。
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Let me explain a point at which we did not rise to the occasion.
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我来解释一下我们为什么不能应付自如。
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It was Christmas, and at our family, oh, what a morning.
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那是圣诞节,在我们家的一个早晨,
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Christmas morning, where we open up our gifts,
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圣诞节的早晨,我们打开我们的礼物,
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where we have special prayers, and where we get to the old upright piano
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我们有特殊祈祷的地方,我们到了老的立式钢琴的地方,
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and we would sing carols. It was a very intimate moment.
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并且我们唱着颂歌。那是一个非常亲密的时刻。
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In fact, you could come down to the tree to get your gifts and get ready to sing,
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事实上,你可以从树上下来,拿到礼物并且准备唱颂歌,
04:25
and then get ready for breakfast without even taking a bath or getting dressed,
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然后甚至不用洗澡或者打扮好就可以吃早餐,
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except that daddy messed it up.
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但爸爸却把一切搞砸了。
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There was a member of his staff who did not have any place
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因为他的一名同事没有地方去
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on that particular Christmas to celebrate.
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在这个特殊的圣诞节。
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And daddy brought Elder Revels to the Christmas family celebration.
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然后爸爸带着他同事爱尔德(Elder Revels)来参加家庭庆祝。
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We thought he must be out of his mind.
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我们认为他一定是疯了。
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This is our time. This is intimate time.
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这是属于我们的时刻。这是个亲密的时刻。
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This is when we can just be who we are,
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这是我们可以做我们真正的自己,
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and now we have this stuffy brother
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但是现在我们有了这个让人郁闷的哥们儿,
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with his shirt and tie on, while we are still in our PJs.
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在我们仍然穿着睡衣的时候他却穿着西装和领带。
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Why would daddy bring Elder Revels?
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为什么爸爸要来爱尔德过来?
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Any other time, but not to the Christmas celebration.
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只要不是圣诞节,别的任何时候都行。
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And mom overheard us and said,
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妈妈无意中听到我们的话,
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"Well, you know what? If you really understand the nature of this celebration,
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“你们知道吗?如果你真的理解庆祝的真正意义,
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it is that this is a time where you extend the circle of love.
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庆祝是你真正延伸你的爱的时刻。
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That's what the celebration is all about.
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这就是庆祝的真正意义。
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It's time to make space, to share the enjoyment of life in a beloved community."
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庆祝是制造空间,是在一个相亲相爱的家庭里分享生命的乐趣。”
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So, we sucked up.
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於是,我们忍过去了。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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But growing up at 915, compassion was not a word to be debated;
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但在915长大,同情心并不是个用来辩论的词汇,
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it was a sensibility to how we are together.
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它是一种我们如何患难于共的情感。
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We are sisters and brothers united together.
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我们兄弟姐妹们心心相连。
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And, like Chief Seattle said, "We did not spin the web of life.
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就像是西雅图酋长所说“我们并不是在织生命的这张大网。
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We're all strands in it.
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我们只是在里面丝缕的。
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And whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves."
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所以不管我们对这张网做什么,我们是对我们自己做的。”
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Now that's compassion.
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这就是同情心。
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So, let me tell you, I kind of look at the world this way.
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所以,我告诉你,我是这么来看这个世界的。
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I see pictures, and something says, "Now, that's compassion."
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我看图片,然后有些人说,“看,那是同情心。”
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A harvested field of grain, with some grain in the corners,
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一块收割完的谷田,一些谷物在角落里堆着
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reminding me of the Hebrew tradition
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提醒着我犹太人的传统
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that you may indeed harvest,
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你也许确实收割了,
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but you must always leave some on the edges,
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但你必须一直留点别的东西在边上
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just in case there's someone who has not
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留给那些没有得到足够的
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had the share necessary for good nurture.
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养育的人。
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Talk about a picture of compassion.
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谈及同情心的一张图。
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I see -- always, it stirs my heart --
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我看到一直震撼我心的
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a picture of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
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马丁路德.金博士的一张照片。
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walking arm in arm with Andy Young and Rabbi Heschel
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跟安迪和拉比(Andy Young 和Rabbi Heschel)手挽手往前走
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and maybe Thich Nhat Hanh and some of the other saints assembled,
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也许是一行禅师(Thich Nhat Hanh)和其它的圣徒,
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walking across the bridge and going into Selma.
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向前走过桥然后去塞尔玛(Selma)。
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Just a photograph.
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只是一张照片。
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Arm in arm for struggle.
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手挽手的奋斗。
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Suffering together in a common hope that we can be brothers and sisters
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即使没有血缘和宗教关系,为了一个共同的希望患难与共
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without the accidents of our birth or our ethnicity
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能成为兄弟姐妹。
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robbing us of a sense of unity of being.
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改变了我们的统一感。
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So, there's another picture. Here, this one. I really do like this picture.
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现在,还有另外一张照片。我真的喜欢这张照片。
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When Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was assassinated,
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当马丁路德.金博士被暗杀后,
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that day, everybody in my community was upset.
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那天,我们社区里所有人都很伤心。
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You heard about riots all across the land.
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你会听到国家到处都有暴乱。
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Bobby Kennedy was scheduled to bring an inner city message in Indianapolis.
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鲍勃肯尼迪从印第安纳波利斯带来一个内城消息。
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This is the picture. They said,
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这就是那张图。他们说,
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"It's going to be too volatile for you to go."
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“它将会变的太动荡不定,你不能去。”
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He insisted, "I must go."
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他坚持“我必须去。”
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So, sitting on a flatbed truck,
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所以,坐在卡车上,
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the elders of the community are there,
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社区里的老者,
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and Bobby stands up and says to the people,
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然后鲍勃站起来告诉人们,
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"I have bad news for you.
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“我有一个坏消息告诉你们。
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Some of you may not have heard that Dr. King has been assassinated.
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有些人也许还没听说当马丁路德.金博士被暗杀了,
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I know that you are angry,
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我理解你们很生气,
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and I know that you would almost wish to have the opportunity
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并且我理解你们希望现在就有机会
08:34
to enter now into activities of revenge. But,"
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去参与报仇的运动,但是”
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he said, "what I really want you to know is that I know how you feel.
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他说,“我希望你们知道,我理解你们的感觉。
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Because I had someone dear to me snatched away.
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因为我的亲人被死神带走了。
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I know how you feel."
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我理解你们的感受。”
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And he said, "I hope that you will have the strength to do what I did.
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然后他说,“我希望你们有力量去做我所做的,
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I allowed my anger, my bitterness, my grief to simmer a while,
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我允许我的愤怒,辛酸,我的悲伤慢慢燃烧,
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and then I made up my mind that I was going to make a different world,
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然后我立志要去一个崭新的世界,
09:10
and we can do that together."
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并且我们可以一起达到。“
09:12
That's a picture. Compassion? I think I see it.
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这是一个图片。 同情心?我觉得我看到它了。
09:16
I saw it when the Dalai Lama came to the Riverside Church while I was a pastor,
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我看到它是在我是牧师的时候达赖喇嘛到河滨教堂
09:23
and he invited representatives of faith traditions from all around the world.
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他从全世界邀请了信仰的代表。
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He asked them to give a message,
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他请他们传递一个信息,
09:33
and they each read in their own language a central affirmation,
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然后他们每个人都用自己的语言去理解,
09:40
and that was some version of the golden rule:
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那是另外版本的黄金法则。
09:45
"As you would that others would do unto you,
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“你如何对待他人,也将如何对待自己,
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do also unto them."
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像对待自己一样对待别人。”
09:54
Twelve in their ecclesiastical or cultural or tribal attire
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12个身着喇嘛服装或者民族服装的人
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affirming one message.
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重申着同一个信息。
10:03
We are so connected that we must treat each other
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我们连接如此紧密,我们必须像所有的行为都
10:07
as if an action toward you is an action toward myself.
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对待自己一样去对待大家。
10:13
One more picture while I'm stinking and thinking about the Riverside Church:
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还有一个图片是我正在思考关于河滨教堂的时候。
10:18
9/11. Last night at Chagrin Fall,
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9/11。 昨晚正懊恼的时候,
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a newspaperman and a television guy said,
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一个报摊小贩和一个电视男的对话,
10:28
"That evening, when a service was held at the Riverside Church,
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那天晚上,当公共的服务在河滨教堂上的时候,
10:34
we carried it on our station in this city.
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我们继续在我们城市里的车站。
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It was," he said, "one of the most powerful moments of life together.
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“那是”他说,“历史上生命连接最为紧密的时刻之一。”
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We were all suffering.
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我们都在经受苦难,
10:48
But you invited representatives of all of the traditions to come,
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但你邀请所有传统的代表来参加,
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and you invited them.
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你邀请他们。
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'Find out what it is in your tradition
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来找出,什么是你的传统
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that tells us what to do when we have been humiliated,
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告诉我们当我们被侮辱的时候要去做什么,
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when we have been despised and rejected.'
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当我们被鄙视和拒绝的时候我们要做什么。
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And they all spoke out of their own traditions,
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然后他们会用他们自己的传统
11:11
a word about the healing power of solidarity, one with the other."
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关于治疗团结一致的力量,一个接一个。
11:18
I developed a sense of compassion sort of as second nature,
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好,现在我发现同情心是一种第二天性,
11:25
but I became a preacher.
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但我变成了一个讲道士。
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Now, as a preacher, I got a job. I got to preach the stuff,
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现在,作为一个讲道士,我的工作就是布道和说教,
11:31
but I got to do it too.
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但我就应该做这个。
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Or, as Father Divine in Harlem used to say to folks,
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或者,就像是哈莱姆神父告诉人们的一样,
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"Some people preach the Gospel.
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“一些人说教福音书。
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I have to tangibilitate the Gospel."
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我必须说出福音书的真实性。”
11:42
So, the real issue is: How do you tangibilitate compassion?
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所以,真正的问题是: 你怎么说同情心的真实性?
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How do you make it real?
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你怎么让它变成现实?
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My faith has constantly lifted up the ideal,
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我的信条不断的升华成理想,
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and challenged me when I fell beneath it.
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并且一旦我落后就不断挑战我。
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In my tradition, there is a gift that we have made to other traditions --
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在我的传统里,我们要为其它的传统送一个礼物 ,
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to everybody around the world who knows the story of the "Good Samaritan."
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世界上每一个人都知道善人的故事。
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Many people think of it primarily in terms of charity,
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许多人认为首当其冲的应该是慈善,
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random acts of kindness.
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随机的善行。
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But for those who really study that text a little more thoroughly,
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但对于这些真正研究或者更理解的人来说,
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you will discover that a question has been raised
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你会发现一个问题慢慢浮现上来,
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that leads to this parable.
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导致了这个寓意。
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The question was: "What is the greatest commandment?"
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这个问题是:“什么才是最伟大的戒律?”
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And, according to Jesus, the word comes forth,
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根据耶稣,这个词汇出来了,
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"You must love yourself,
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“你必须爱自己,
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you must love the Lord your God with all your heart, mind and soul,
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你必须像爱你自己一样全心全意爱你的主你的上帝,
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and your neighbor as yourself."
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以及你的邻居。”
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And then the person asked, "Well, what do you mean, 'neighbor?'"
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然后人们问道,“那么,你是指什么,邻居?”
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And he answered it by telling the story of the man who fell among thieves,
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然后他讲了一个男人落到贼窝的故事来回答这个问题,
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and how religious authorities went the other way,
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以及宗教的掌权者是如何通向另一条路,
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and how their supporters in the congregation went the other way;
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还有他们的支持者是如何聚在一起通向另一条路的,
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but an unsuspecting, despised person came along,
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但没有料想到,被歧视的人一起,
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saw the man in need,
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看到有需要帮助的人,
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provided oil and wine for his wounds,
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提供了油和酒来治疗他的伤口,
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put him on his own transportation,
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把他送上自己的交通工具,
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and took him to the inn
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然后送他到旅馆
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and asked the innkeeper, "Take care of him."
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并且告诉侍应生,“好好照顾他。”
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And he said, "Here, this is the initial investment,
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然后说,“这只是刚开始的投入,
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but if needs continue, make sure that you provide them.
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如果他还需要帮助,你要确保帮助他
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And whatever else is needed, I will provide it and pay for it when I return."
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不管他需要什么,等我回来我会把钱给你。”
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This always seemed to me to be a deepening
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这对于我来说,有意成为
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of the sense of what it means to be a Good Samaritan.
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一个善人的意识在不断加深。
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A Good Samaritan is not simply one whose heart is touched
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一个大善人不是仅仅简单的容易感动,
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in an immediate act of care and charity,
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仅仅一个直接的关心和慈善,
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but one who provides a system of sustained care -- I like that,
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而是一个提供一系列的可持续的关心 --如我所说的那样
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'a system of sustained care ' -- in the inn, take care.
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在旅馆里的一个可以持续的关心和照顾。
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I think maybe it's one time when the Bible talks about a healthcare system
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我想也许有一次当圣经论及医疗系统
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and a commitment to do whatever is necessary --
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以及承诺要做的必须的事情,
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that all God's children would have their needs cared for,
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所有的上帝的孩子都需要被照顾,
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so that we could answer when mommy eternal asks, "In regards to health,
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因此当永恒的妈妈问及,“关于健康,
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are all the children in?" And we could say yes.
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所有的孩子都在吗?” 然后我们可以回答是的。
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Oh, what a joy it has been to be a person seeking to tangibilitate compassion.
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一个去证明同情心的真实性的人是多么快乐啊。
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I recall that my work as a pastor
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我回想我作为一个牧师的时候
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has always involved caring for their spiritual needs;
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总是牵涉到关注他们的灵魂所需,
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being concerned for housing, for healthcare,
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关注他们的房子,医疗,
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for the prisoners, for the infirm, for children --
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犯人,年迈体弱的老人,儿童,
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even the foster care children for whom no one can even keep a record
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甚至是收养和照顾那些甚至没有出生记录
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where they started off, where they are going.
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和任何资料的儿童。
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To be a pastor is to care for these individual needs.
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作为一个牧师就是要关心这些个人之所需。
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But now, to be a Good Samaritan -- and I always say,
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但是现在,作为一个大善人,我总是说
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and to be a good American -- for me,
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并且做为一个善良的美国人,对于我来说,
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is not simply to congratulate myself for the individual acts of care.
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不是简单的恭喜我自己对于个人的关心行为,
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Compassion takes on a corporate dynamic.
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同情心呈现出一种全体的动态。
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I believe that whatever we did around that table at Bloodworth Street
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我坚信我们在布拉德大街围绕着饭桌所做的一切,
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must be done around tables and rituals of faith
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必须在在饭桌上完成的事情以及信条的仪式
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until we become that family, that family together
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直到我们变成了一个大家庭,在一起的大家庭,
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that understands the nature of our unity.
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理解我们统一的自然天性。
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We are one people together.
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我们一起变成了一个人。
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So, let me explain to you what I mean when I think about compassion,
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所以,让我来给你解释我对同情心的认识,
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and why I think it is so important that right at this point in history.
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并且为什么我认为同情心在历史上的这一时刻那么重要
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We would decide to establish this charter of compassion.
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我们会决定建立起同情心的新篇章。
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The reason it's important is because this is a very special time in history.
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它如此重要是因为这是历史的一个非常特殊的时刻。
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It is the time that, biblically, we would speak of as
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这个时刻是圣经里我们所说的
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the day, or the year, of God's favor.
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上帝恩惠的那一天,或那一年。
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This is a season of grace.
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这是一个感恩的季节。
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Unusual things are beginning to happen.
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不寻常的东西已经开始发生。
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Please pardon me, as a black man, for celebrating
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请允许我再说一遍,作为一个黑人,为了庆祝
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that the election of Obama was an unusual sign
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奥巴马的当选就是一个不寻常的迹象
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of the fact that it is a year of favor.
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今年是上帝恩惠的一年,
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And yet, there is so much more that needs to be done.
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而且,还有这么多的东西需要被完成。
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We need to bring health and food and education
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我们需要带来健康,食物和教育
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and respect for all God's citizens, all God's children,
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以及对上帝子民的尊重,所有上帝的孩子们,
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remembering mama eternal.
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记住永恒的妈妈。
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Now, let me close my comments by telling you
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现在,让我再告诉一件事来结束我的讲话,
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that whenever I feel something very deeply,
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无论何时我感触很深的时候,
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it usually takes the form of verse.
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它通常带着诗歌的形式。
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And so I want to close with a little song.
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所以我想以一首歌来结尾。
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I close with this song -- it's a children's song --
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以这首儿歌来结尾。
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because we are all children at the table of mama eternal.
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我们在永恒的妈妈的餐桌上的时候,我们都是孩子。
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And if mama eternal has taught us correctly,
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如果永恒的妈妈教导我们的是正确的话,
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this song will make sense, not only to those of us who are a part of this gathering,
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这首哥就一定有意义,不只是我们聚会的一部分,
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but to all who sign the charter for compassion.
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而是整个同情心新篇章的迹象。
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And this is why we do it.
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这就是我们为什么去做。
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The song says, ♫ "I made heaven so happy today, ♫
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这首哥是♫今天我使天堂如此开心♫
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♫ Receiving God's love and giving it away ♫
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♫我收到了上帝的爱并传递给别人♫
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♫ When I looked up, heaven smiled at me ♫
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♫当我提着看,天堂正朝我微笑♫
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♫ Now, I'm so happy. Can't you see? ♫
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♫现在我如此开心,你看不到吗?♫
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♫ I'm happy. Look at me. I'm happy. Can't you see? ♫
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♫我很开心。看看我,我很开心,你看不到吗?♫
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♫ Sharing makes me happy, makes heaven happy too ♫
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♫分享使我开心,也让天堂开心♫
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♫ I'm happy. Look at me. I'm happy. Can't you see? ♫
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♫我很开心,♫
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♫ Let me share my happy loving smile with you. ♫
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♫让我来分享开心可爱的微笑给你♫
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That's compassion. (Applause)
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这就是同情之心。
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