Amazon's climate pledge to be net-zero by 2040 | Dave Clark and Kara Hurst

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Lindsay Levin: So Dave, in just a few months,

林赛·莱文（Lindsay Levin）： 那么戴夫，在短短几个月内，

你就转任了亚马逊消费者 零售业首席执行官这一新职位，

you transition into a new role as CEO of consumer retail at Amazon.

That's a big role.

这可是个重要的岗位。

How will climate sit as a priority for you,

考虑到你要操办的所有其他事务，

given all the other things you'll have on your plate?

你为什么会把气候变化作为当务之急？

戴夫·克拉克（Dave Clark）： 我们在烟雾缭绕的西雅图

Dave Clark: We've spent much of our end of the summer

in smoke-filled Seattle,

度过了夏季的大部分时间，

unable to enjoy the majestic Pacific Northwest due to all the fires

由于今年夏天席卷 美国西海岸的所有大火，

that encompassed the West Coast of the US this summer.

无法欣赏到壮阔的西北太平洋。

Climate is a very real challenge for all of us, not just at Amazon,

气候变化对所有人 都是非常现实的挑战，

but in our daily lives at this point.

不仅是对亚马逊， 而且涉及到我们的日常生活。

多年来，我和团队 以及卡拉一直专注于此。

And I've been focused on this with the team and with Kara for years now.

In fact, we've embedded the sustainability teams

实际上，我们将可持续发展团队 纳入了我们各个运营团队内部，

inside of our operations team,

as opposed to being a separate part of the company,

而不是在公司单独成立部门，

因为我们希望那些团队

because we wanted those teams connected with the groups

与能够真正改变的组织建立联系。

that can actually make change.

LL: Kara, can you describe a couple of the biggest hurdles you face

林：卡拉，你能讲讲 在努力减少像亚马逊

这样的公司的碳足迹时 所面临的最大障碍吗？

as you work to reduce the carbon footprint

of a company like Amazon?

卡拉·赫斯特（Kara Hurst）： 亚马逊令人兴奋

Kara Hurst: One of the really exciting but also complex things about Amazon

也比较复杂的事情之一

is the diversity of businesses that we're in,

就是我们业务的多样性。

the range of services and products,

不同的服务和产品，不同的行业

of industries and different types of buildings and stores

不同类型的建筑、商店和实体店，

and fulfillment centers,

and of course, all of our online infrastructure and business as well.

当然，还有我们所有的线上构架和业务。

And we're committed to reaching net zero emissions.

而且我们致力于实现净零排放。

I think our size and our scale can actually be a tremendous advantage.

我觉得我们的规模其实

可以成为一个巨大的优势，

It forces us to think about our carbon footprint

迫使我们在所有的业务中，

throughout all of our businesses,

我们的运营、技术、服务、产品中

our operations, our technologies, our services, our products.

思考我们的碳足迹。

And at one end,

而在一方面，

we want to power our operations by 100 percent renewable energy by 2025,

我们希望在 2025 年之前

用 100% 的可再生能源 为我们的运营提供动力。

but we're also making sure that when you receive a shipment,

但我们也要确保当你收到快递时，

we're at net zero carbon all the way through those operations.

我们在这些操作流程中

一直保持零碳。

And we want to do this in a very Amazonian way.

我们想以一种非常亚马逊的方式来实现，

So we took a number of years to build what we call "a carbon system of record."

因此，我们花了很多年时间

来建立所谓的“碳记录系统”。

These are tools that allow us to think about this holistically

这些工具可以让我们公司 全面思考这个问题。

across the company.

林：戴夫，亚马逊已经做出了承诺，

LL: Dave, Amazon has made a pledge,

you call it "the Climate Pledge,"

你称之为 “气候承诺”，

旨在到 2040 年 让整个企业的碳消耗为零，

to be net zero across your business by 2040.

That's 10 years ahead of the Paris Agreement.

这比《巴黎协定》要早 10 年。

Give us a sense of the scale of transformation that that calls for

让我们大致了解一下此转型 对整个运营来说规模有多大。

across your operations.

DC: It's very daunting.

戴： 听起来很令人生畏。

当我们开始这个计划时，

When we started this process,

we started from a position of science,

我们从科学的角度深入挖掘和理解

of digging in and understanding all the inputs of our business,

我们所有的业务着手，

我们业务的哪些制造环节 把碳排放到环境中？

what parts of our business create and put carbon into the environment,

what are the elements, each piece of that process,

该环节中每一步的要素是什么？

and how do we improve them.

还有我们如何改善它们？

当我们研究后，

And as we started looking at that,

we said, well, how are we going to meet these objectives?

我们说，那么， 我们将如何实现这些目标呢？

这几乎需要企业在每个方面

And it really requires innovation across almost every aspect of the business,

都要进行创新。

whether it be in our renewable space,

无论是我们的可再生空间，

whether it be in electrification of our vehicles,

电动化我们的车辆，

whether it be in our packaging and processes,

我们的包装和流程，

whether it be working with manufacturers.

还是与制造商的合作。

Essentially, the entire span of our supply chain

从根本上说，我们整个供应链

都需要进行改进 以便慢慢地实现此目标，

is required to modify to meet the objectives of this over time,

which is why the Climate Pledge was so important.

这就是为什么 “气候承诺” 如此重要。

LL: Kara, the Climate Pledge is not just about Amazon.

林：卡拉，“气候承诺” 不仅限于亚马逊，

You're inviting other companies to join you.

你正在邀请其他公司加入你们。

KH: We know with the Climate Pledge we cannot do this alone.

卡：我们知道我们 无法独自实现 “气候承诺”，

这将需要企业，

It's going to take companies,

还有政府、社区和个人的共同努力，

but partnership also with governments and communities and individuals

who will come up with solutions and new technologies.

他们提出新的解决方案， 进行技术革新。

We want to engage our full supply chain

我们要让我们的整个供应链

as well as other companies,

以及企业们参与进来，

and we're really excited that already 11 major organizations

我们真的很兴奋， 已经有 11 个主要的组织

已经和我们一起签署了 “气候承诺”。

have signed on to the Climate Pledge with us.

We want to accelerate innovation,

我们要加速创新，

and we've established a two-billion-dollar Climate Pledge Fund

我们已经建立了一个价值 20 亿美元的 “气候承诺” 基金

to invest in these companies

为了投资这些企业，

它们的产品和解决方案 将促进向低碳经济的过渡。

whose products and solutions will facilitate the transition

to a low-carbon economy.

So we know this is a very ambitious challenge,

所以我们知道 这是一个非常宏大的挑战，

but we want to make the greatest impact in the shortest possible timeline,

但我们希望在最短的时间内 产生最大的影响。

and it's exciting to share the complexity about how we think about this at Amazon

很高兴与其他公司分享我们亚马逊

如何思考这个复杂的问题，

with other companies

并邀请他们共同努力。

and invite them to come along with us.

林：戴夫，当像亚马逊这样的公司转型，

LL: Dave, when a company like Amazon moves,

it can have a huge impact across supply chains.

它会对整个供应链产生巨大的影响。

Give us an example or two of how a decision that you've made

请给我们举一两个例子，

说说你所做的决定

is catalyzing innovation across the sector.

是如何促进整个行业创新的。

DC: I can tell you, just the example of Rivian.

戴：我可以举个 Rivian 的例子。

Rivian is the electric vehicle manufacturer

Rivian 是一家电动汽车制造商，

that is going to build 100,000 electric delivery vehicles

该公司将为我们的送货车队 建造 10 万辆电动送货车。

for our delivery fleet.

When we went out and made this investment,

当我们出去做这个投资的时候，

the number of new companies that started to spawn

也催生出很多新兴的公司去支持 Rivian 。

relative to supporting Rivian,

to new electric delivery vehicles,

像新的电动配送车，

甚至替代燃料——

to even alternative fuels --

we started getting calls about alternative jet fuel

我们在发布赞助 Rivian 公告的那天

开始接到有关替代喷气燃料的电话。

the day we put out that announcement on Rivian.

So as soon as people saw that we were going to invest real capital

因此，当人们看到我们为业务

for substantive portions of our operations --

实质性地去投入资本的时候——

these aren't hobbies,

这不再是试水，

but putting real money into big pieces of our operations --

但把真金白银投入到 我们的大块业务中——

it was amazing, the amount of companies that started coming out

很令人惊讶，大量的公司开始涌现。

who had an emergent technology here

有的拥有新兴的技术，

or had a great idea and needed help in getting manufacturing started.

或有一个伟大的想法， 需要帮助开始生产。

There was just example after example of those.

这只是众多例子中的一个。

LL: Dave, Kara, thank you so much for being with us.

林：戴夫，卡拉， 非常感谢你们与我们一起。

We wish you every success with the Climate Pledge

我们祝愿你们 “气候承诺” 取得圆满成功，

而且真的迫不及待地想看到你们的成果。

and really can't wait to see the progress you guys are going to make.

DC: Thank you, it's an honor to be here and be part of such an amazing event.

戴：谢谢， 很荣幸 能在这里参加这样的盛会。

卡：谢谢。

KH: Thank you.