Amazon's climate pledge to be net-zero by 2040 | Dave Clark and Kara Hurst

譯者: Yunchi Hsu 審譯者: Amanda Zhu

Lindsay Levin: So Dave, in just a few months,

琳賽‧萊文：戴夫，在幾個月內，

you transition into a new role as CEO of consumer retail at Amazon.

你轉任到亞馬遜的 消費零售執行長的新職位。

That's a big role.

這可是很重要的崗位。

How will climate sit as a priority for you,

你如何優先考慮氣候，

given all the other things you'll have on your plate?

儘管你會有很多其他事情需要處理呢？

Dave Clark: We've spent much of our end of the summer

戴夫‧克拉克：這個夏季末， 我們大部分是在

in smoke-filled Seattle,

煙霧籠罩的西雅圖度過，

unable to enjoy the majestic Pacific Northwest due to all the fires

我們無法享受太平洋西北 地區的宏偉景色，

因為今年夏天的大火席捲了美國西岸。

that encompassed the West Coast of the US this summer.

Climate is a very real challenge for all of us, not just at Amazon,

此時，氣候對於我們所有人來說 都是非常現實的挑戰，

不僅是對於亞馬遜， 也影響到我們的日常生活。

but in our daily lives at this point.

And I've been focused on this with the team and with Kara for years now.

到現在，我已經和團隊、和卡拉 一起關注這個議題很多年了。

In fact, we've embedded the sustainability teams

事實上，我們已將永續發展團隊

inside of our operations team,

融入我們的營運團隊，

as opposed to being a separate part of the company,

而不是公司的獨立部門，

因為我們想讓這些團隊可以和那些

because we wanted those teams connected with the groups

有實際影響力的團隊有所往來。

that can actually make change.

LL: Kara, can you describe a couple of the biggest hurdles you face

琳：卡拉，妳可以描述一下 當妳在亞馬遜這樣的企業

as you work to reduce the carbon footprint

致力於減少碳足跡時， 所面對最大的障礙嗎？

of a company like Amazon?

卡拉‧赫斯特：亞馬遜最讓人興奮 但也最複雜的部份

Kara Hurst: One of the really exciting but also complex things about Amazon

is the diversity of businesses that we're in,

即是我們業務的多樣性，

the range of services and products,

包含不同種類的產品與服務、

of industries and different types of buildings and stores

不同產業和不同類型的建築、店面

and fulfillment centers,

與物流中心，

and of course, all of our online infrastructure and business as well.

當然，我們的網路建設 與業務也包含在內。

And we're committed to reaching net zero emissions.

而我們致力達成淨零碳排放。

I think our size and our scale can actually be a tremendous advantage.

我認為我們的規模其實是極大的優勢。

It forces us to think about our carbon footprint

這點迫使我們思考

throughout all of our businesses,

我們所有的業務、營運、技術、 服務和產品中的碳足跡。

our operations, our technologies, our services, our products.

And at one end,

一方面，

we want to power our operations by 100 percent renewable energy by 2025,

我們希望在 2025 年之前 全面使用再生能源，

but we're also making sure that when you receive a shipment,

但我們也會確保，當你收到貨物時，

we're at net zero carbon all the way through those operations.

整個運作過程會將碳排放維持淨零。

And we want to do this in a very Amazonian way.

我們想要以非常亞馬遜的作風 來實現這個目標。

So we took a number of years to build what we call "a carbon system of record."

所以我們花了幾年建立 所謂的「碳記錄系統」。

These are tools that allow us to think about this holistically

這些工具能夠讓我們公司能夠全面地

across the company.

思考這個問題。

LL: Dave, Amazon has made a pledge,

琳：戴夫，亞馬遜已發表一項宣言，

you call it "the Climate Pledge,"

你稱它為「氣候宣言」，

to be net zero across your business by 2040.

承諾要在 2040 年以前 讓整個企業達成淨零碳排放。

That's 10 years ahead of the Paris Agreement.

這個目標比《巴黎協議》 還要早了十年。

Give us a sense of the scale of transformation that that calls for

你能不能帶我們了解一下，

它對整個營運所帶來的 轉型規模有多大？

across your operations.

DC: It's very daunting.

戴：這個目標聽起來很嚇人。

When we started this process,

當我們開始這項計畫時，

we started from a position of science,

我們以科學的角度出發，

of digging in and understanding all the inputs of our business,

深入研究並了解 我們企業所有的生產投入，

what parts of our business create and put carbon into the environment,

我們的企業有哪些環節 製造了碳並將其排放到環境裡？

what are the elements, each piece of that process,

是該環節的哪一個部分？

and how do we improve them.

以及，我們如何改善？

And as we started looking at that,

而當我們開始檢視這問題時，

we said, well, how are we going to meet these objectives?

我們便想：那我們 該如何達到這些目標呢？

And it really requires innovation across almost every aspect of the business,

這十分需要將企業的 幾乎每一個層面進行創新，

whether it be in our renewable space,

無論是在再生能源方面、

whether it be in electrification of our vehicles,

運輸車輛電動化、

whether it be in our packaging and processes,

包裝和流程，

whether it be working with manufacturers.

或是與製造商的合作。

Essentially, the entire span of our supply chain

從根本上，我們的整條供應鏈

is required to modify to meet the objectives of this over time,

都要逐漸進行改造以達成目標，

which is why the Climate Pledge was so important.

這就是「氣候宣言」非常重要的原因。

LL: Kara, the Climate Pledge is not just about Amazon.

琳：卡拉，「氣候宣言」不限於亞馬遜。

You're inviting other companies to join you.

妳也邀請其他企業一同加入。

卡：我們知道，我們無法 獨自履行「氣候宣言」。

KH: We know with the Climate Pledge we cannot do this alone.

It's going to take companies,

這不只需要企業，

but partnership also with governments and communities and individuals

也需要和政府、社群與個人 建立夥伴關係，

who will come up with solutions and new technologies.

而他們能想出解決方案和新技術。

We want to engage our full supply chain

我們想邀請我們的整個供應鏈

as well as other companies,

以及其他企業一起參與，

and we're really excited that already 11 major organizations

而我們非常高興， 已經有十一個主要的組職

have signed on to the Climate Pledge with us.

和我們一起簽署了「氣候宣言」。

We want to accelerate innovation,

我們想要加速創新，

and we've established a two-billion-dollar Climate Pledge Fund

而且我們已創立 二十億美元的氣候宣言基金，

to invest in these companies

對這些公司進行投資，

whose products and solutions will facilitate the transition

它們所提供的產品 與解決方案可以促進

to a low-carbon economy.

朝向低碳經濟的轉型。

So we know this is a very ambitious challenge,

所以我們知道這項挑戰的 目標十分遠大，

but we want to make the greatest impact in the shortest possible timeline,

但我們想盡可能在最短的時間內 產生最大的影響，

and it's exciting to share the complexity about how we think about this at Amazon

而很高興能夠和其他公司分享

我們亞馬遜如何思考這個複雜的問題，

with other companies

and invite them to come along with us.

並邀請它們和我們一同共襄盛舉。

LL: Dave, when a company like Amazon moves,

琳：戴夫，當一家像是亞馬遜 這樣的企業採取行動時，

it can have a huge impact across supply chains.

它可以對各供應鏈產生巨大的影響。

Give us an example or two of how a decision that you've made

舉個一、兩個例子 向我們展示你所做的決定

is catalyzing innovation across the sector.

如何催化整個業界的創新呢？

DC: I can tell you, just the example of Rivian.

戴：我可以向你分享 Rivian 的例子。

Rivian is the electric vehicle manufacturer

Rivian 是一家電動車製造商，

that is going to build 100,000 electric delivery vehicles

它即將為我們的貨運車隊

製造十萬台的電動貨車。

for our delivery fleet.

When we went out and made this investment,

當我們出手進行這項投資時，

the number of new companies that started to spawn

也催生出一些新公司

relative to supporting Rivian,

從事可支援 Rivian 的相關行業，

to new electric delivery vehicles,

如新的電動運輸工具，

to even alternative fuels --

甚至是替代燃料──

we started getting calls about alternative jet fuel

當我們發布 Rivian 投資案 消息的同一天，

the day we put out that announcement on Rivian.

我們就接到航空燃油 替代燃料廠商的電話。

So as soon as people saw that we were going to invest real capital

所以，當人們看到我們要對企業的營運

for substantive portions of our operations --

大量投入的資金時

these aren't hobbies,

──這些不只是做好玩的，

but putting real money into big pieces of our operations --

而是將真正的錢投入到 我們營運的一大部分裡──

it was amazing, the amount of companies that started coming out

開始出現的廠商數量令人驚訝，

who had an emergent technology here

它們有些擁有新興的技術，

or had a great idea and needed help in getting manufacturing started.

或是有很棒的點子 並需要協助以開始生產。

There was just example after example of those.

而這只是眾多例子中的其中一個而已。

LL: Dave, Kara, thank you so much for being with us.

琳：戴夫、卡拉， 非常感謝你們的參與。

We wish you every success with the Climate Pledge

我們祝你們能成功實現 「氣候宣言」，

and really can't wait to see the progress you guys are going to make.

也迫不及待能看到你們將展現的進步。

DC: Thank you, it's an honor to be here and be part of such an amazing event.

戴：謝謝，很榮幸能 在這裡參與這番盛事。

KH: Thank you.

卡：謝謝。