Mike O'Sullivan: The end of globalization (and the beginning of something new) | TED

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Prevodilac: Una Pilipović Lektor: Ivana Korom
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We are at the end of globalization.
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Stigli smo do kraja globalizacije.
00:16
We've taken globalization for granted,
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Uzimali smo je zdravo za gotovo
00:19
and as it drifts into history, we're going to miss it.
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i faliće nam kad se počne gubiti u prošlosti.
00:22
The second wave of globalization began in the early '90s,
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Drugi talas globalizacije počeo je početkom devetesetih
00:25
and it delivered a great deal.
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i mnogo nam je dobrog doneo.
00:27
Billions of people rose out of poverty.
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Milijarde ljudi izašle su iz siromaštva.
00:31
More impressively, wealth per adult in countries like Vietnam and Bangladesh
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A bogatstvo po odrasloj osobi u državama kao Vijetnamu i Bangladešu
00:36
increased by over six times in the last 20 years.
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povećalo se šest puta u proteklih dvadeset godina.
00:39
The number of democracies rose,
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Broj demokratija se povećao
00:41
and countries as diverse as Chile, Malaysia, Estonia,
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a države kao Čile, Malezija i Estonija
00:46
held free and fair elections.
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održale su slobodne i poštene izbore.
00:48
The role of women improved in many parts of the world,
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Uloga žena poboljšala se u mnogim delovima sveta,
00:52
if you look at wage equality in countries like Spain,
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kada pogledamo jednake plate u državama kao Španiji,
00:55
or access to education in countries like Saudi Arabia.
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ili pristup školovanju u državama kao Saudijskoj Arabiji.
00:59
Economically, supply chains spread like webs around the world,
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Ekonomiski: lanci snabdevanja šire se kao mreža po celom svetu,
01:03
with car parts criss-crossing borders
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pa delovi automobila prvo prelaze granice
01:06
before the final product came into place.
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pre nego što završe u krajnjem proizvodu.
01:09
And globalization has also changed the way we live now.
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Globalizacija je, takođe, promenila način na koji živimo danas.
01:13
It's changed our diets.
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Promenila nam je ishranu.
01:15
It's changed how we communicate, how we consume news and entertainment,
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Promenila nam je način komunikacije, kako konzumiramo novosti i zabavu,
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how we travel and how we work.
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kako putujemo i kako radimo.
01:21
But now, globalization is on its deathbed.
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Ali sada, globalizacija umire.
01:24
It's run into the limitations of its own success:
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Došla je do granica svog uspeha:
01:28
inequality and new, record levels of indebtedness --
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nejednakost i novi, rekordni dugovi -
01:31
for example, world debt-to-GDP
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na primer, svetski dugovi na odnosu na BDP
01:34
is now pushing levels not seen since the Napoleonic Wars 200 years ago --
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viši su sada nego za vreme Napoleonovih ratova pre dvesta godina -
01:39
show us that the advantages of globalization
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pokazuju nam da su prednosti globalizacije
01:43
have been misdirected.
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pogrešno usmerene.
01:45
The Global Financial Crisis was the result of this mismanagement,
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Svetska finansijska kriza bila je rezultat toga,
01:49
and since then policymakers
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i od tada zakonodavci
01:52
have done little but contain,
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pokušavaju da spreče pogoršanje,
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rather than solve,
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a ne da reše,
01:55
the problems of our age.
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probleme našeg doba.
01:58
Now, some highly globalized countries such as Ireland and the Netherlands,
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Jako globalizovane države poput Irske i Holandije
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have managed to improve income inequality in their countries
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uspele su da smanje nejednakost u svojim državama
02:05
by better distributing the bounties of globalization
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tako što su bolje raspodelile darove globalizacije,
02:09
through higher taxes and social welfare programs.
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jer su povećale poreze i uvele socijalnu pomoć.
02:12
Other countries have not been as good.
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Drugim državama nije toliko dobro uspelo.
02:14
Russia and, especially, the United States,
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Rusija i, pogotovo, SAD
02:17
have extreme levels of wealth inequality,
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imaju ekstremne nivoe nejednakosti bogatstva,
02:21
more extreme even than during the time of the Roman Empire.
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čak i gore nego za vreme Rimskog carstva.
02:25
And this has convinced many people that globalization is against them,
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A to je mnoge ljude ubedilo da globalizacija nije na njihovoj strani
02:30
and that the bounties of globalization
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i da darovi globalizacije
02:32
have not been shared with the many.
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nisu podeljeni sa mnogima.
02:35
And now, in 2020,
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I sada, u 2020,
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we're confronted by the pandemic,
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borimo se sa pandemijom
02:39
which has shaken the ground under us
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koja nas je potresla
02:41
and further exposed the frailties
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i otkrila slabosti
02:45
of the globalized world order.
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globalizovanog sveta.
02:47
In past international crises,
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U prošlim svetskim krizama,
02:50
most of them economic or geopolitical,
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pretežno ekonomskim i geopolitičkim,
02:53
there has usually ultimately been a sense of a committee to save the world.
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mislili smo da postoji grupa ljudi koji će da spasi svet.
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Leaders and leading nations would come together.
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Da će vođe i glavne nacije da se spoje.
03:02
But this time, uniquely,
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Ali ovaj put, prvi put,
03:04
there has been no such collaboration.
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nema takve saradnje.
03:07
Against a backdrop of trade wars,
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Sada smo u trgovinskom ratu,
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some countries like the US have outbid others for masks.
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i neke države poput SAD-a nadmašile su ponude drugih za maske.
03:12
There's been hacking of vaccine programs,
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Hakovani su programi za vakcine,
03:16
and a common enemy, the pandemic,
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a zajedničkom neprijatelju, pandemiji,
03:19
has not been met with a common response.
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još se nismo zajedno obratili.
03:23
So any hope that we might have a world vaccine
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Tako da je svaka nada da ćemo svi na svetu imati vakcinu,
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or a world recovery program is in vain.
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ili da ćemo naći zajednički plan za oporavak, uzalud.
03:30
So now we're at the end of an era in history,
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Sada smo na kraju jednog doba,
03:34
an era that began with the fall of communism,
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koje je počelo padom komunizma,
03:36
that set in train the flow of trade,
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koji je pokrenuo tok trgovine,
03:40
of finance, of people
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finansija, naroda
03:42
and of ideas,
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i ideja
03:44
and that now comes to an end
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i to se sada bliži kraju
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with events like the shutting down of democracy in Hong Kong.
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događajima kao što je slom demokratije u Hongkongu.
03:52
The question now is, what's next?
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Pitanje je, šta nas sada čeka?
03:55
Well, if the era we're leaving
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Pa, ako je doba iz koga izlazimo
03:56
was characterized by a connected world
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karakterizovano povezanim svetom
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trying to shrink and come together
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koji pokušava da se smanji i zbliži
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on the basis of economic goals
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zbog ekonomskih ciljeva
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and geography,
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i geografije,
04:06
the new world order
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novi svetski poredak
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will be defined by rival, distinct and different ways of doing things,
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biće karakterisan konkurencijom i novim drugačijim pristupima,
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and ultimately collaboration based on values,
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i saradnjom zasnovanom na vrednostima,
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and this new world order
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a na tom novom svetskom poretku
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is very much a work in progress.
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se već radi.
04:21
"Disorder" might be a better word,
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Možda je "nered" bolja reč,
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and it has been for some time.
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i to je već duže vreme.
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But think appropriately
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Ali zamislite
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of great sheets of ice breaking apart,
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velike slojeve leda koji se odvoje,
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some drifting away
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i otplutaju,
04:31
and others later reforming.
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a neki se kasnije opet spoje.
04:34
And the internet is a bit like this.
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I internet je sličan tome.
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It used to be global.
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Nekada je bio svetski.
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Google used to have 30 percent of the market share in China,
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Gugl je imao 30 odsto udela na kineskom tržištu,
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and now it has close to zero percent.
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a sada ima blizu nula.
04:46
And the big regions of the world
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I veliki delovi sveta
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increasingly look at the internet
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sve više posmatraju internet
04:50
from a values-based point of view.
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iz perspektive vrednosti.
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America values tech innovation and its financial rewards.
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SAD ceni tehnološke napretke i finansijske dobitke.
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China takes a political view of the internet
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Kina gleda internet sa političkog stajališta
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and cordons it off,
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pa ga zato ograđuje i izoluje,
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and at the same time China has this incredible e-commerce economy
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ali Kina istovremeno ima neverovatnu e-trgovinu,
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that no other country has come close to matching.
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kakvu nijedna država nema, ni sličnu.
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And then there's Europe,
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Onda imamo Evropu,
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and in Europe a conversation about the internet
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a u Evropi su razgovori o internetu
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is effectively a conversation about data and privacy.
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pretežno razgovori o podacima i privatnosti.
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So there you have it:
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I eto ga:
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one common problem,
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Jedan zajednički problem
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and three increasingly different, competing views.
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a tri različita i suprotna gledišta.
05:28
This shows us that rival ideologies
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To nam pokazuje da će nas suprotne ideologije
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will drive very distinct ways of doing things.
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dovesti do toga da na različite načine radimo stvari.
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But what about collaboration and cooperation?
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A šta je sa saradnjom?
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Well, I'm going to start with the example of three small countries:
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Pa, počeću primerom triju malih država:
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Scotland, Iceland and New Zealand.
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Škotske, Islanda i Novog Zelanda.
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And a couple of years ago,
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Pre par godina,
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they signed up to the Wellbeing Economy Governments,
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pristupile su grupi "Wellbeing Economy Governments"
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whose aim is to foster ecological and human well-being
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čiji je cilj sačuvati ekonomiju i blagostanje čoveka
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as well as economic growth.
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ali i ekonomski razvoj.
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Practically speaking,
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Jednostavno rečeno,
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these countries are already discussing things like well-being budgeting,
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ove države već govore o stvarima kao što su budžet za blagostanje,
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well-being-led tourism,
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turizam za blagostanje,
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and using the well-being framework in the fight against COVID.
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i korišćenje okvira blagostanja u borbi protiv Kovida.
06:09
Now, these three countries are about as geographically distant
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Ove tri države su toliko geografski udaljene
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and diverse as you can get,
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i različite koliko mogu da budu,
06:15
but they've come together
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ali su se spojile
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on the basis of a shared value,
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zbog zajedničkih vrednosti,
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which is a common understanding
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a to je mišljenje
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that there is more to government policy
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da je politika vlade mnogo više
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than merely GDP.
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od BDP-a.
06:27
Similarly, in the future,
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Slično će, ubuduće,
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other small countries and city-states --
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i druge male države i gradovi-države -
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Singapore, Switzerland, the United Arab Emirates --
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Singapur, Švajcarska i Ujedinjeni Arapski Emirati -
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will find that they have more in common with each other
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shvatiti da su više povezane međusobno
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than with their larger neighbors.
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nego sa većim komšijama.
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They're all global financial centers.
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One su svetski finansijski centri.
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They all invest in strategic planning.
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One ulažu u strateško planiranje.
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And they are all geopolitical micropowers
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I sve su geopolitičke mikro snage,
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and will collaborate more as a result.
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koje će zato više da sarađuju.
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Another good example
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Još jedan dobar primer
06:53
of how values, rather than geography,
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zašto će vrednosti, pre nego geografija,
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will increasingly shape destinies and alliances is Europe.
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da oblikuju sudbine i saveze, je Evropa.
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During the period of globalization,
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Tokom perioda globalizacije
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one of the key phenomena
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jedan od glavnih fenomena
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was the eastward expansion of the European Union.
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bio je razvoj Evropske unije prema istoku.
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From 2004, it added 13 new members,
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Od 2004, 13 država joj je pristupilo,
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despite the near existential crisis of the euro,
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uprkos ogromnoj krizi evra,
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constant pressure from Russia,
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i stalnog pritiska Rusije,
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and of course the trauma of Brexit.
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i, naravno, traume koju je uzrokovao Bregzit.
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And, like a company that has grown too fast,
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I kao preduzeće koje se prebrzo razvilo,
07:25
Europe needs to stop
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Evropa treba da stane
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and think about where it's going
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i razmisli kuda ide
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and ask whether its values can steer it in the right direction.
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i da se zapita da li je njene vrednosti mogu odvesti u pravom smeru.
07:33
And this is beginning to happen,
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To polako počinje da se dešava,
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albeit slowly.
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ali sporo.
07:37
European leaders talk a lot about European values,
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Evropski lideri mnogo pričaju o evropskim vrednostima,
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but frankly most Europeans,
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ali većina Evropljana,
07:43
be they German, Greek, Latvian or Spaniards,
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bili to Nemci, Grci, Letonci ili Španci,
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really don't know or have a clear idea what those shared common values
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stvarno ne znaju ili nemaju jasnu predstavu koje bi te zajedničke vrednosti
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are supposed to be.
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trebalo da budu.
07:53
So European politicians need to do a very good job
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Evropski političari zato treba mnogo da se potrude
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of asking them how they feel about these common values
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i da ih pitaju šta misle o tim zajedničkim vrednostima
08:00
and then communicating the answers back to them
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i da im odgovore
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in a clear and tangible way.
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na jasan način.
08:05
And of course social media is a very important tool to deploy here.
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Bitno je naravno i da se društvene mreže koriste za to.
08:10
And as Europe moves [towards] a union that's based more on values
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I dok Evropa bude postajala unija zasnovana više na vrednostima,
08:15
and less on geography,
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nego na geografiji,
08:17
its contours
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njene granice
08:19
and those values themselves
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i te same vrednosti
08:21
will increasingly be defined
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biće sve više definisane
08:23
by the tension between Brussels
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napetošću između Brisela
08:26
and countries like Hungary and Poland,
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i državama poput Mađarske i Poljske,
08:29
who are increasingly behaving in ways
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koje se sve manje ponašaju u skladu
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that go against basic values
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sa osnovnim vrednostima,
08:34
such as respect for democracy
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kao što su poštovanje demokratije
08:37
and the rule of law.
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i vladavina zakona.
08:38
The treatment of women and the LGBT community
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Odnos prema ženama i LGBT populaciji
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are other important markers here.
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su, takođe, bitni faktori.
08:43
And in time Europe will, and should,
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A s vremenom će Evropa, i treba,
08:47
tie financial aid to these countries
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da veže finansijske pomoći za te države
08:49
and policy
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i politiku
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to their adherence to Europe's shared values.
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uz poštovanje tih evropskih zajedničkih vrednosti.
08:54
And these countries, and others in Eastern Europe, and Cyprus,
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A te države, i druge u istočnoj Evropi, i Kipar,
08:57
still have close financial ties to Russia and China.
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i dalje su finansijski vezane za Rusiju i Kinu.
09:02
And again in time they will be forced to choose
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I s vremenom moraće da se odluče
09:05
between Europe and its values
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između Evrope i njenih vrednosti
09:08
and these other countries and their own distinct values.
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i tih drugih država i njihovih vrednosti.
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Like Europe, China is another big player
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Kao i Evropa, Kina je veliki igrač
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with a very distinct set of values,
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sa mnogo drugačijim vrednostima
09:17
or contract between the people and the state.
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i odnosom između naroda i države.
09:20
And I have to say that this set of values
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Moram da kažem da se te vrednosti
09:22
is not one that is well-understood
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ne razumeju dobro
09:24
in the West.
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na Zapadu.
09:26
And given China's extraordinary economic and social transformation
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I posmatrajući Kininu izuzetnu ekonomsku i društvenu transformaciju
09:30
in the last 30 years,
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u poslednjih 30 godina,
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we should really be more curious.
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trebalo bi da nas više zanima.
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China's values are rooted deep in its history,
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Kinine vrednosti potiču iz njene istorije,
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in a desire to regain the place
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iz želje da se vrati na mesto,
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it once enjoyed hundreds of years ago
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na kom je bila pre stotina godina
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when its economy was the dominant one.
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kada je njena ekonomija dominirala.
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Indeed, Xi Jinping talked of the China Dream
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Si Đinping je govorio o "Kineskom snu"
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well before Donald Trump was elected
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mnogo pre nego što je Donald Tramp pobedio na izborima
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with the catchphrase "Make America Great Again."
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frazom "Make America Great Again."
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And China's system, viewed from the outside,
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Kinin sistem je, gledajući spolja,
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is based around a contract or a bargain
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zasnovan na ugovoru ili pogodbi
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where people will sacrifice their liberty
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da će narod da žrtvuje svoju slobodu
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in return for order, prosperity and national prestige.
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za red, blagostanje i nacionalni ugled.
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It's one where the state is very much in control,
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U tom sistemu država ima kontrolu,
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which is something that most Europeans and Americans would find alien.
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što bi mnogi Evropljani i Amerikanci smatrali čudnim.
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It's also a system that has worked very well for China.
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Takođe je sistem koji dobro funkcioniše u Kini.
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But the biggest risk it faces
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No, rizik koji im preti
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is a period of high and prolonged unemployment
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je period visoke i dugotrajne nezaposlenosti,
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that will break this contract
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koja će da raskine taj ugovor
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between the state and the people.
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između naroda i države.
10:30
And for other countries,
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A za druge države,
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China can be an attractive partner.
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Kina može da bude primamljiv partner.
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It can provide capital and know-how.
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Može da pruži kapital, znanje i iskustvo.
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I'm thinking for example of Pakistan and Sri Lanka,
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Mislim, na primer, na Pakistan i Šri Lanku,
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two members of the Belt and Road program.
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dva člana Inicijative pojasa i puta.
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But this partnership comes at a price;
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Ali to partnerstvo ima cenu:
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they're beholden to Chinese technologies
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zavise od kineske tehnologije,
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such as the controversial Huawei.
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kao što je kontroverzni Huawei.
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Chinese investors own their debt,
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Kineski investitori poseduju njihove dugove,
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and as a result control key infrastructure
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i tako kontrolišu bitnu infrastrukturu
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such as the main port in Sri Lanka.
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kao što je glavna luka u Šri Lanki.
10:59
Now I find that when we talk about globalization,
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Smatram da kada govorimo o globalizaciji,
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the end of globalization and the new world order,
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o kraju globalizacije i novom svetskom poretku,
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we spend far too much time discussing America, Europe and China,
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previše vremena gubimo govoreći o Americi, Evropi i Kini
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and not enough time on the many exciting things
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a ne dovoljno govoreći o mnogim zanimljivim stvarima
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happening in fast-growing economies,
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koje se dešavaju u ekonomijama koje brzo rastu,
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from Ethiopia, Nigeria, to Indonesia, Bangladesh, Mexico and Brazil.
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počevši od Etiopije, Nigerije, pa do Indonezije, Bangladeša, Meksika i Brazila.
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And in the new world order, the question for these countries
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A u novom svetskom poretku, pitanje koje se postavlja njima jeste,
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is what model to follow and what alliances to build.
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koji model da slede i koje saveze da stvaraju.
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And many of them during the period of globalization
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I mnogi od njih su se tokom globalizacije naviknuli
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had become used to being told what to do
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na to da im bude rečeno šta da rade
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by the likes of the IMF, the International Monetary Fund.
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kao što je radio MMF, Međunarodni monetarni fond.
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But the age of condescension is now over,
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Ali doba snishodljivosti je gotovo,
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so the tangible opportunity
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tako da je mogućnost sada veća
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in a less uniform,
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da u raznolikom svetu,
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more value-driven world for these countries
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koji se više posvećuje vrednostima, ove države
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is that they have much greater choice in the path to follow,
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imaju više izbora kada biraju svoj put
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and arguably greater pressure to get it right.
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i verovatno veći pritisak da odaberu pravi.
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So should, for example, Belarus and Lebanon
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Da li bi, na primer, Belorusija ili Liban
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follow the Irish model or that of Dubai?
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trebalo da slede model Irske ili Dubaija?
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Does Nigeria still think it has shared values
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Da li Nigerija i dalje misli da ima zajedničke vrednosti
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with the Commonwealth countries,
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sa nacijama Komonvelta,
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or will it ally itself and its fast-growing population
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ili će sa svojim stanovništvom, koje brzo raste, da se priključi
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to China and its model?
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Kini i njenom modelu?
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And then think of one of the few female leaders in Africa,
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Onda još zamislite jednu od jedinih ženskih lidera u Africi,
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President Sahle-Work Zewde of Ethiopia,
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Predsednicu Etiopije, Šejl-Vork Zevde,
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and whether she might be inspired
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i da li bi je mogao inspirisati
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by the work of Jacinda Ardern in New Zealand
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rad Džesinde Ardern iz Novog Zelanda
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or Nicola Sturgeon in Scotland,
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ili Nikole Sturdžona iz Škotkse,
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and tangibly how she can transfer their example
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i kako bi ona mogla da primeni sve te primere
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to policy in Ethiopia.
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na politiku u Etiopiji.
Naravno, moglo bi da se desi da u ovom novom svetskom poretku
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Of course, it may be that in this new world order,
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countries like Kenya and Indonesia
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države poput Kenije ili Indonezije
12:42
decide to go their own way
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odluče da idu svojim putem
12:44
and build out their own value sets
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i stvore svoj skup vrednosti
12:46
and their own economic infrastructure,
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i svoju ekonomsku infrastrukturu,
12:48
and in this way the arrangements and the institutions of the future
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pa bi se na taj način dogovori i institucije naše budućnosti
12:54
will be crafted much less in Washington and Beijing,
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ređe stvarali u Vašingtonu i Pekingu
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but really by countries like Tunisia and Cambodia,
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nego u državama kao Tunisu ili Kambodži,
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comparing notes on how to battle corruption through technology,
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uspoređujući načine da se pobedi korupcija tehnologijom,
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how to build education and health care systems
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da se izgrade obrazovanje i zdravstveni sistemi
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for burgeoning populations,
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za rastuće stanovništvo,
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and how to make their voice heard
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i kako učiniti da se i njihov glas čuje
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on the world stage.
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na svetskoj bini.
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So as globalization ends
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Dok se globalizacija približava kraju
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and chaos seems to reign,
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i haos postaje sve veći,
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these countries, their young populations
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te države i njihovi mladi državljani
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and the scope they have to build new societies
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i prostor koji imaju da izgrade nova društva
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are the future
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su naša budućnost
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and the promise of the new world order.
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i nada novog svetskog poretka.
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Thank you.
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Hvala.
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