How the US government spies on people who protest -- including you | Jennifer Granick

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Prevodilac: Ivana Krivokuća Lektor: Tijana Mihajlović
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We are all activists now.
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Svi mi smo sada aktivisti.
00:15
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
00:16
Thank you.
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Hvala vam.
00:18
I'll just stop here.
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Jednostavno ću tu da stanem.
00:19
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
00:21
From the families who are fighting to maintain funding for public schools,
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Od porodica koje se bore da održe finansiranje javnih škola,
00:26
the tens of thousands of people who joined Occupy Wall Street
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desetine hiljada ljudi pridruženih pokretu „Okupirajte Vol strit“
00:30
or marched with Black Lives Matter
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ili onih koji su marširali uz pokret „Životi crnaca su važni“
00:33
to protest police brutality against African Americans,
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da bi protestovali protiv brutalnosti policije prema Afroamerikancima,
00:37
families that join rallies,
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preko porodica koje se priključuju mitinzima,
00:40
pro-life and pro-choice,
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protiv abortusa i za mogućnost izbora,
00:43
those of us who are afraid
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onih među nama koji se boje
00:45
that our friends and neighbors are going to be deported
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da će nam prijatelji i susedi biti deportovani
00:48
or that they'll be added to lists
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ili da će ih dodati na spiskove
00:50
because they are Muslim,
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zato što su muslimani,
00:53
people who advocate for gun rights and for gun control
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do ljudi koji se zalažu za pravo na oružje i onih za kontrolu oružja
00:58
and the millions of people who joined the women's marches
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i miliona ljudi koji su se priključili marševima žena
01:01
all across the country this last January.
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širom zemlje ovog januara.
01:04
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
01:07
We are all activists now,
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Sada smo svi mi aktivisti,
01:09
and that means that we all have something to worry about from surveillance.
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a to znači da svi imamo razloga da budemo zabrinuti zbog nadzora.
01:15
Surveillance means government collection and use
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Nadzor podrazumeva prikupljanje i upotrebu
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of private and sensitive data about us.
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ličnih i osetljivih podataka o nama od strane vlasti.
01:21
And surveillance is essential
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Nadzor je od suštinskog značaja
01:23
to law enforcement and to national security.
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za primenu zakona i nacionalnu bezbednost.
01:26
But the history of surveillance
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Ali, istorija nadzora
01:28
is one that includes surveillance abuses
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je takva da obuhvata njegovu zloupotrebu,
01:31
where this sensitive information has been used against people
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pri čemu su te osetljive informacije korišćene protiv ljudi
01:35
because of their race,
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zbog njihove rase,
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their national origin,
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nacionalnog porekla,
01:38
their sexual orientation,
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seksualne orijentacije,
01:40
and in particular, because of their activism,
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a naročito zbog njihovog aktivizma,
01:43
their political beliefs.
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njihovih političkih uverenja.
01:46
About 53 years ago,
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Pre oko 53 godine,
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Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. gave his "I have a dream" speech
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dr Martin Luter King je održao svoj govor „Ja imam san“
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on the Mall in Washington.
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u Nacionalnom centru u Vašingtonu.
01:54
And today the ideas behind this speech of racial equality and tolerance
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Danas ideje u osnovi ovog govora o rasnoj jednakosti i toleranciji
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are so noncontroversial
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toliko nisu kontroverzne
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that my daughters study the speech in third grade.
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da moje ćerke izučavaju ovaj govor u trećem razredu.
02:04
But at the time,
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Ali, u to vreme,
02:06
Dr. King was extremely controversial.
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dr King je bio izuzetno kontroverzan.
02:09
The legendary and notorious FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover believed,
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Legendarni i ozloglašeni direktor Ef-Bi-Aja Dž. Edgar Huver verovao je,
02:14
or wanted to believe,
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ili je želeo da veruje,
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that the Civil Rights Movement was a Soviet communist plot
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u to da je pokret za građanska prava bio sovjetska komunistička zavera
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intended to destabilize the American government.
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sa namerom da destabilizuje američku vlast.
02:23
And so Hoover had his agents put bugs in Dr. King's hotel rooms,
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Tako je Huver slao agente da postavljaju prislušne uređaje
u hotelske sobe dr. Kinga,
02:30
and those bugs picked up conversations between civil rights leaders
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a ti uređaji su snimili razgovore između predvodnika pokreta za građanska prava
02:35
talking about the strategies and tactics of the Civil Rights Movement.
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u kojima su govorili o strategijama i taktikama pokreta za građanska prava.
02:40
They also picked up sounds of Dr. King
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Takođe su snimili zvukove dr Kinga
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having sex with women who were not his wife,
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dok je upražnjavao seks sa ženama koje nisu bile njegova supruga,
02:46
and J. Edgar Hoover saw the opportunity here
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a Džej Edgar Huver je tu video priliku
02:48
to discredit and undermine the Civil Rights Movement.
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da diskredituje i podriva pokret za građanska prava.
02:53
The FBI sent a package of these recordings
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Ef-Bi-Aj je dr Kingu poslao paket sa ovim snimcima
02:56
along with a handwritten note to Dr. King,
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zajedno sa rukom napisanim pisamcetom,
03:00
and a draft of this note was found in FBI archives years later,
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a nacrt tog pisamceta je pronađen godinama kasnije u arhivi Ef-Bi-Aja
03:07
and the letter said,
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i to pismo kaže:
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"You are no clergyman and you know it.
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„Nisi sveštenik i to znaš.
03:11
King, like all frauds, your end is approaching."
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Kingu, kao i svim prevarantima, bliži ti se kraj.“
03:15
The letter even seemed to encourage Dr. King to commit suicide,
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Čak se činilo da pismo podstiče dr Kinga da izvrši samoubistvo,
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saying, "King, there is only one thing left for you to do.
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navodeći: „Kingu, samo jedno ti preostaje.
03:25
You know what it is.
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Znaš šta je to.
03:26
You better take it before your filthy, abnormal, fraudulent self
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Bolje ti je da to uradiš dok tvoje prljavo, nenormalno, lažno lice
03:31
is bared to the nation."
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nije razotkriveno pred nacijom.“
03:33
But the important thing is,
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Ali, bitna stvar je
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Dr. King was not abnormal.
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da dr King nije bio nenormalan.
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Every one of us has something that we want to hide from somebody.
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Svako od nas ima nešto što želimo da sakrijemo od nekoga.
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And even more important,
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Što je još važnije,
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J. Edgar Hoover wasn't abnormal either.
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ni Džej Edgar Huver nije bio nenormalan.
03:46
The history of surveillance abuses
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Istorija zloupotrebe nadzora
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is not the history of one bad, megalomaniacal man.
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nije istorija jednog lošeg, megalomanskog čoveka.
03:52
Throughout his decades at the FBI,
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Tokom decenija provedenih u Ef-Bi-Aju,
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J. Edgar Hoover enjoyed the support of the presidents that he served,
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Džej Edgar Huver je uživao podršku predsednika kojima je služio,
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Democratic and Republican alike.
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demokrata kao i republikanaca.
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After all, it was John F. Kennedy and his brother Robert Kennedy
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Na kraju krajeva, Džon F. Kenedi i njegov brat Robert Kenedi su bili ti
04:05
who knew about and approved the surveillance of Dr. King.
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koji su znali za nadzor dr Kinga i odobrili ga.
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Hoover ran a program called COINTELPRO for 15 years
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Huver je 15 godina rukovodio programom pod imenom KOINTELPRO
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which was designed to spy on and undermine civic groups
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koji je bio namenjen da špijunira i podriva grupe građana
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that were devoted to things like civil rights,
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koje su bile posvećene stvarima poput građanskih prava,
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the Women's Rights Movement,
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pokreta za prava žena,
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and peace groups and anti-war movements.
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mirovnih grupa i antiratnih pokreta.
04:26
And the surveillance didn't stop there.
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Nadzor se nije zaustavio na tome.
04:29
Lyndon Baines Johnson,
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Lindon Bejns Džonson
04:31
during the election campaign,
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je za vreme izborne kampanje
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had the campaign airplane of his rival Barry Goldwater bugged
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ozvučio avion kampanje svog suparnika Berija Goldvotera
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as part of his effort to win that election.
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kao deo svojih nastojanja da pobedi na tim izborima.
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And then, of course, there was Watergate.
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Zatim je, naravno, tu bio Votergejt.
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Burglars were caught
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Uhvaćeni su provalnici
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breaking into the Democratic National Committee headquarters
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dok su provaljivali u sedište Demokratskog nacionalnog komiteta
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at the Watergate Hotel,
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u hotelu Votergejt,
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the Nixon administration was involved in covering up the burglary,
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Niksonova administracija je bila umešana u prikrivanje provaljivanja
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and eventually Nixon had to step down as president.
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i na kraju je Nikson morao da se povuče kao predsednik.
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COINTELPRO and Watergate were a wake-up call for Americans.
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KOINTELPRO i Votergejt bili su poziv za buđenje Amerikancima.
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Surveillance was out of control
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Nadzor se oteo kontroli
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and it was being used to squelch political challengers.
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i korišćen je da bi se pregazili politički protivnici.
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And so Americans rose to the occasion
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Tako su se Amerikanci snašli u datoj situaciji
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and what we did was we reformed surveillance law.
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i reformisali smo zakon o nadzoru.
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And the primary tool we used to reform surveillance law
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Osnovno sredstvo koje smo koristili za reformu zakona o nadzoru
05:24
was to require a search warrant
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bilo je zahtevanje naloga za pretres
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for the government to be able to get access to our phone calls and our letters.
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da bi vlast mogla da pristupi našim telefonskim pozivima i pismima.
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Now, the reason why a search warrant is important
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Razlog zbog kojeg je važan nalog za pretres
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is because it interposes a judge
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je zato što umeće sudiju
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in the relationship between investigators and the citizens,
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u odnos između istražitelja i građana,
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and that judge's job is to make sure
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a posao tog sudije je da se uveri
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that there's good cause for the surveillance,
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da postoji dobar razlog za nadzor,
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that the surveillance is targeted at the right people,
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da je nadzor usmeren ka pravim ljudima
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and that the information that's collected
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i da će informacije koje se prikupljaju
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is going to be used for legitimate government purposes
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biti korišćene za legitimne svrhe vlasti,
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and not for discriminatory ones.
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a ne u svrhu diskriminacije.
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This was our system,
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To je bio naš sistem,
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and what this means is
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a to podrazumeva
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that President Obama did not wiretap Trump Tower.
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da predsednik Obama nije prisluškivao Trampovu kulu.
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The system is set up to prevent something like that from happening
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Sistem je podešen da spreči da se tako nešto dogodi
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without a judge being involved.
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bez uključivanja sudije.
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But what happens when we're not talking about phone calls or letters anymore?
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Međutim, šta se desi kada više ne govorimo o telefonskim pozivima i pismima?
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Today, we have technology
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Danas imamo tehnologiju
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that makes it cheap and easy for the government to collect information
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koja vlastima pruža jeftin i lak način da prikupljaju informacije
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on ordinary everyday people.
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o običnim ljudima sa normalnim životom.
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Your phone call records
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Evidencije vaših telefonskih poziva
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can reveal whether you have an addiction,
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mogu da otkriju da li imate bolest zavisnosti,
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what your religion is,
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koje ste veroispovesti,
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what charities you donate to,
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kojim dobrotvornim organizacijama donirate,
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what political candidate you support.
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kog političkog kandidata podržavate.
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And yet, our government collected, dragnet-style,
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A ipak, naša vlada je sakupljala, hvatala u mrežu,
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Americans' calling records for years.
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podatke o pozivima Amerikanaca tokom mnogo godina.
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In 2012, the Republican National Convention
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Godine 2012, republikanska nacionalna konvencija
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highlighted a new technology it was planning to use,
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istakla je novu tehnologiju koju je planirala da upotrebi,
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facial recognition,
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prepoznavanje lica,
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to identify people who were going to be in the crowd
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da bi identifikovala ljude koji su odlazili da bi bili deo mase,
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who might be activists or troublemakers
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koji bi mogli biti aktivisti ili izazivači nereda
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and to stop them ahead of time.
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i da bi ih unapred zaustavila.
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Today, over 50 percent of American adults
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Danas preko 50 posto odraslih Amerikanaca
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have their faceprint in a government database.
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ima sliku svog lica u vladinoj bazi podataka.
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The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives
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Biro za alkohol, duvan, vatreno oružje i eksplozive
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concocted a plan
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smislio je plan
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to find out what Americans were going to gun shows
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da otkrije koji Amerikanci odlaze na sajmove oružja
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by using license plate detectors
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koristeći detektore registarskih tablica
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to scan the license plates of cars
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da bi skenirali registarske tablice automobila
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that were in the parking lots of these events.
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koji su bili na parkinzima ovih događanja.
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Today, we believe that over 70 percent of police departments
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Danas verujemo da više od 70 odsto policijskih odeljenja
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have automatic license plate detection technology
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ima automatsku tehnologiju za detektovanje registarskih tablica
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that they're using to track people's cars as they drive through town.
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koju koriste za praćenje automobila ljudi dok se voze kroz grad.
07:43
And all of this information,
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Sve te informacije,
07:46
the license plates, the faceprints,
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registarske tablice, slike lica,
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the phone records,
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evidencija poziva,
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your address books, your buddy lists,
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vaši adresari, vaše liste prijatelja,
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the photos that you upload to Dropbox or Google Photos,
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slike koje kačite na Dropboks ili Guglove slike,
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and sometimes even your chats and your emails
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a ponekad čak i kada se dopisujete putem četova i mejlova,
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are not protected by a warrant requirement.
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nisu zaštićeni zahtevom za nalog.
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So what that means is we have all of this information on regular people
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To znači da imamo sve te informacije o običnim ljudima
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that's newly available at very low expense.
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koje su iznova dostupne po veoma niskoj ceni.
08:14
It is the golden age for surveillance.
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Zlatno je doba nadzora.
08:18
Now, every parent is going to understand what this means.
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Svaki roditelj će razumeti šta ovo znači.
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When you have a little baby
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Kada imate bebu
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and the baby's young,
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i ta beba je mala,
08:27
that child is not able to climb out of its crib.
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to dete ne može da izađe iz svog kreveca.
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But eventually your little girl gets older
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Ali, u nekom trenutku vaša devojčica postaje starija
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and she's able to climb out of the crib,
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i u stanju je da izađe iz kreveca,
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but you tell her, "Don't climb out of the crib. OK?"
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ali joj vi kažete: „Ne izlazi iz kreveca. U redu?“
08:40
And every parent knows what's going to happen.
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Svaki roditelj zna šta će se desiti.
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Some of those babies are going to climb out of the crib.
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Neke bebe će izlaziti iz kreveca.
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Right? That's the difference between ability and permission.
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Je l' tako? To je razlika između mogućnosti i dozvole.
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Well, the same thing is true with the government today.
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Pa, ista stvar važi kod današnje vlasti.
08:52
It used to be that our government didn't have the ability
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Nekada naša vlast nije imala mogućnost
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to do widespread, massive surveillance on hundreds of millions of Americans
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da vrši rasprostranjen, obiman nadzor nad stotinama miliona Amerikanaca
i da zatim zloupotrebljava te informacije,
08:59
and then abuse that information.
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09:01
But now our government has grown up,
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ali naša vlast je sada porasla
09:03
and we have that technology today.
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i danas imamo tu tehnologiju.
09:06
The government has the ability,
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Vlast ima sposobnost,
09:08
and that means the law is more important than ever before.
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a to znači da je zakon važniji nego ikada ranije.
09:12
The law is supposed to say
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Zakon treba da kaže
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when the government has permission to do it,
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kada vlast ima dozvolu da to čini
09:18
and it's supposed to ensure that there's some kind of ramification.
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i treba da osigura da postoji neka vrsta posledice.
09:22
We notice when those laws are broken
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Primećujemo kada se ti zakoni prekrše
09:24
and there's some of kind of ramification or punishment.
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i kada postoji neka vrsta posledice ili kazne.
09:27
The law is more important than ever because we are now living in a world
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Zakon je važniji nego ikada jer sada živimo u svetu
09:30
where only rules are stopping the government
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u kome samo pravila sprečavaju vlast
09:32
from abusing this information.
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da zloupotrebi te informacije.
09:34
But the law has fallen down on the job.
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Ali, zakon je podbacio na tom zadatku.
09:37
Particularly since September 11 the law has fallen down on the job,
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Naročito je podbacio na tom zadatku od 11. septembra,
09:41
and we do not have the rules in place that we need.
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i nemamo uspostavljene zakone koji su nam potrebni.
09:45
And we are seeing the ramifications of that.
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I vidimo posledice toga.
09:48
So fusion centers are these joint task forces
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Centri fuzije su ove udružene radne grupe
09:51
between local, state and federal government
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između lokalne, državne i federalne vlasti
09:53
that are meant to ferret out domestic terrorism.
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koje imaju za cilj da iščeprkaju domaći terorizam.
09:56
And what we've seen is fusion center reports
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Ono što smo viđali u izveštajima centara fuzije
09:59
that say that you might be dangerous
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koji kažu da možete biti opasni
10:03
if you voted for a third-party candidate,
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ako ste glasali za sporednog kandidata
10:06
or you own a "Don't Tread On Me" flag,
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ili posedujete zastavu „Ne gazi me“,
10:09
or you watched movies that are anti-tax.
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ili ste gledali filmove koji su protiv poreza.
10:13
These same fusion centers have spied on Muslim community groups' reading lists
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Isti ti centri fuzije su špijunirali liste literature grupa muslimanske zajednice
10:18
and on Quakers who are resisting military recruiting in high schools.
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i kvekere koji se suprotstavljaju vojnom regrutovanju u srednjim školama.
10:24
The Internal Revenue Service has disproportionately audited
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Poreska uprava je nesrazmerno vršila proveru
10:28
groups that have "Tea Party" or "Patriot" in their name.
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grupa koje imaju u imenu reči „čajanka“ ili „patriota“.
10:32
And now customs and border patrol
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A sada carina i granična patrola
10:34
is stopping people as they come into the country
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zaustavljaju ljude kada dolaze u zemlju
10:37
and demanding our social networking passwords
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i zahtevaju šifre za društvene mreže
10:40
which will allow them to see who our friends are,
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koje će im omogućiti da vide ko su nam prijatelji,
10:43
what we say
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šta govorimo,
10:44
and even to impersonate us online.
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pa čak i da nas oponašaju na internetu.
10:48
Now, civil libertarians like myself
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Građanski libertarijanci poput mene
10:51
have been trying to draw people's attention to these things
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pokušavaju da privuku pažnju ljudi na te stvari
10:55
and fighting against them for years.
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i bore se protiv njih godinama.
10:57
This was a huge problem during the Obama administration,
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Ovo je bio ogroman problem za vreme Obamine administracije,
11:02
but now the problem is worse.
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ali sada je problem veći.
11:06
When the New York Police Department
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Kada njujorška policija
11:08
spies on Muslims
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špijunira muslimane
11:10
or a police department uses license plate detectors
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ili policija koristi detektore registarskih tablica
11:14
to find out where the officers' spouses are
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da bi saznali gde se nalaze supružnici policajaca
11:18
or those sorts of things,
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i tome slično,
11:19
that is extremely dangerous.
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to je izuzetno opasno,
11:21
But when a president repurposes the power
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ali kada predsednik preusmeri moć
11:24
of federal surveillance and the federal government
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federalnog nadzora i federalne vlade
11:27
to retaliate against political opposition,
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da bi vršio odmazdu protiv političke opozicije,
11:30
that is a tyranny.
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to je tiranija.
11:32
And so we are all activists now,
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Zato smo sada svi aktivisti
11:36
and we all have something to fear from surveillance.
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i svi imamo razloga za strah od nadzora.
11:40
But just like in the time of Dr. Martin Luther King,
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Ali, baš kao u vreme dr Martina Lutera Kinga,
11:44
we can reform the way things are.
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možemo reformisati stvari kako stoje sada.
11:47
First of all, use encryption.
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Pre svega, koristite enkripciju.
11:50
Encryption protects your information
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Enkripcija štiti vaše informacije
11:53
from being inexpensively and opportunistically collected.
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od njihovog jeftinog i oportunističkog prikupljanja.
11:58
It rolls back the golden age for surveillance.
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Vraća unazad zlatno doba nadzora.
12:03
Second, support surveillance reform.
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Drugo, podržite reformu nadzora.
12:07
Did you know that if you have a friend
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Da li ste znali da, ako imate prijatelja
12:09
who works for the French or German governments
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koji radi za francusku ili nemačku vladu,
12:12
or for an international human rights group
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za međunarodnu grupu za ljudska prava
12:16
or for a global oil company
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ili za globalnu kompaniju nafte,
12:19
that your friend is a valid foreign intelligence target?
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on je verodostojna meta inostrane obaveštajne službe?
12:23
And what that means is that when you have conversations with that friend,
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To znači da, kada vodite razgovor sa tim prijateljem,
12:27
the US government may be collecting that information.
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vlada SAD-a možda prikuplja te informacije.
12:32
And when that information is collected,
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A kada se te informacije sakupe,
12:35
even though it's conversations with Americans,
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iako je u pitanju razgovor sa Amerikancem,
12:37
it can then be funneled to the FBI
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mogu se proslediti Ef-Bi-Aju,
12:40
where the FBI is allowed to search through it
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pri čemu je Ef-Bi-Aju dozvoljeno da ga pregleda
12:43
without getting a warrant,
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bez dobijanja naloga,
12:44
without probable cause,
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bez mogućeg razloga,
12:46
looking for information about Americans
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tražeći informacije o Amerikancima
12:48
and whatever crimes we may have committed
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i o kojim god prestupima koje smo možda počinili
12:51
with no need to document any kind of suspicion.
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bez potrebe da dokumentuju bilo kakvu sumnju.
12:55
The law that allows some of this to happen
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Zakon koji omogućava da se ove pojedine stvari događaju
12:58
is called Section 702 of the FISA Amendments Act,
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naziva se Odeljak 702 izmena i dopuna Zakona o spoljnoj obaveštajnoj kontroli,
13:02
and we have a great opportunity this year,
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a imamo sjajnu priliku ove godine,
13:05
because Section 702 is going to expire at the end of 2017,
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jer će Odeljak 702 isteći krajem 2017. godine,
13:10
which means that Congress's inertia is on our side
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što znači da je inertnost kongresa
na našoj strani ako hoćemo reformu.
13:14
if we want reform.
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13:16
And we can pressure our representatives
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Možemo vršiti pritisak na svoje predstavnike
13:20
to actually implement important reforms to this law
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da zaista primene važne reforme na ovaj zakon
13:23
and protect our data from this redirection and misuse.
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i zaštite naše podatke od ovog preusmeravanja i zloupotrebe.
13:28
And finally, one of the reasons why things have gotten so out of control
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Najzad, jedan od razloga zbog kojeg su se stvari otrgle kontroli
13:33
is because so much of what happens with surveillance --
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je zato što je toliko toga od onog što se dešava sa nadzorom -
13:36
the technology, the enabling rules and the policies
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tehnologija, pravila koja daju mogućnost i političke smernice
13:40
that are either there or not there to protect us --
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koje ili jesu ili nisu tu da nas zaštite -
13:44
are secret or classified.
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tajno ili poverljivo.
13:46
We need transparency, and we need to know as Americans
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Potrebna nam je transparentnost,
i moramo da znamo kao Amerikanci šta vlast čini u naše ime
13:51
what the government is doing in our name
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13:53
so that the surveillance that takes place and the use of that information
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tako da nadzor koji se vrši i korišćenje tih informacija
13:58
is democratically accounted for.
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budu demokratski sračunati.
14:02
We are all activists now,
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Svi mi smo sada aktivisti,
14:04
which means that we all have something to worry about from surveillance.
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što znači da svi imamo razloga za brigu zbog nadzora.
14:08
But like in the time of Dr. Martin Luther King,
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Ali, kao u vreme dr Martina Lutera Kinga,
14:11
there is stuff that we can do about it.
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ima stvari koje možemo preduzeti u vezi sa time.
14:14
So please join me, and let's get to work.
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Zato vas molim da mi se pridružite i bacimo se na posao.
14:18
Thank you.
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Hvala.
14:20
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
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