"Good" and "bad" are incomplete stories we tell ourselves | Heather Lanier

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Prevodilac: Ivana Krivokuća Lektor: Tijana Mihajlović
00:12
There's an ancient parable about a farmer who lost his horse.
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Postoji stara parabola o seljaku koji je izgubio konja.
00:17
And neighbors came over to say, "Oh, that's too bad."
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Komšije su došle da kažu: „O, baš loše.“
00:20
And the farmer said, "Good or bad, hard to say."
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A seljak je rekao: „Dobro ili loše, teško je reći.“
00:24
Days later, the horse returns and brings with it seven wild horses.
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Danima kasnije, konj se vratio i sa sobom doveo sedam divljih konja.
00:30
And neighbors come over to say, "Oh, that's so good!"
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Komšije su došle da kažu: „O, to je baš dobro!“
00:33
And the farmer just shrugs and says, "Good or bad, hard to say."
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A seljak samo slegne ramenima i kaže: „Dobro ili loše, teško je reći.“
00:39
The next day, the farmer's son rides one of the wild horses,
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Sledećeg dana, sin seljaka ode da jaše jednog divljeg konja,
00:43
is thrown off and breaks his leg.
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bude zbačen sa sedla i polomi nogu.
00:46
And the neighbors say, "Oh, that's terrible luck."
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Komšije kažu: „O, baš loša sreća.“
00:49
And the farmer says, "Good or bad, hard to say."
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A seljak kaže: „Dobro ili loše, teško je reći.“
00:54
Eventually, officers come knocking on people's doors,
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Na kraju dođu oficiri da kucaju ljudima na vrata,
00:57
looking for men to draft for an army,
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tražeći muškarce da ih regrutuju za vojsku,
00:59
and they see the farmer's son and his leg and they pass him by.
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vide seljakovog sina i njegovu nogu i zaobiđu ga.
01:03
And neighbors say, "Ooh, that's great luck!"
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Komšije kažu: „O, baš velika sreća!“
01:06
And the farmer says, "Good or bad, hard to say."
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A seljak kaže: „Dobro ili loše, teško je reći.“
01:11
I first heard this story 20 years ago,
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Prvi put sam čula tu priču pre 20 godina
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and I have since applied it 100 times.
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i od tada sam je primenila 100 puta.
01:16
Didn't get the job I wanted:
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Nisam dobila posao koji sam htela:
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good or bad, hard to say.
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dobro ili loše, teško je reći.
01:20
Got the job I wanted:
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Dobila sam posao koji sam htela;
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good or bad, hard to say.
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dobro ili loše, teško je reći.
01:25
To me, the story is not about looking on the bright side
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Za mene, u ovoj priči se ne radi o gledanju sa vedrije strane
01:29
or waiting to see how things turn out.
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niti čekanju da bi se videlo kako će nešto ispasti.
01:32
It's about how eager we can be to label a situation,
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Radi se o tome koliko možemo imati potrebu da prilepimo etiketu situaciji,
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to put concrete around it by judging it.
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da je zatvorimo u čvrste okvire prosuđujući o njoj.
01:38
But reality is much more fluid,
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Ali stvarnost je mnogo promenljivija,
01:41
and good and bad are often incomplete stories that we tell ourselves.
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a dobro i loše su često nepotpune priče koje pričamo samima sebi.
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The parable has been my warning
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Ova parabola je bila moje upozorenje
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that by gripping tightly to the story of good or bad,
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na to da, čvrsto se držeći priče o dobrom i lošem,
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I close down my ability to truly see a situation.
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gušim svoju sposobnost da istinski sagledam situaciju.
01:56
I learn more when I proceed and loosen my grip
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Više naučim kada krenem, popustim stisak
02:00
and proceed openly with curiosity and wonder.
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i otvoreno nastavim uz radoznalost i čuđenje.
02:04
But seven years ago,
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Ali pre sedam godina,
kada sam bila trudna sa svojim prvim detetom,
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when I was pregnant with my first child,
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02:09
I completely forgot this lesson.
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sasvim sam zaboravila ovu lekciju.
02:12
I believed I knew wholeheartedly what was good.
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Iskreno sam verovala da znam šta je dobro.
02:15
When it came to having kids,
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Kada se radilo o rađanju dece,
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I thought that good was some version of a superbaby,
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mislila sam da je dobro neka verzija superbebe,
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some ultrahealthy human who possessed not a single flaw
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nekog ultrazdravog ljudskog bića koje nema ni jednu jedinu manu
02:24
and would practically wear a cape flying into her superhero future.
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i koje bi praktično nosilo plašt koji bi ga odneo u budućnost superheroja.
02:29
I took DHA pills to ensure that my baby had a super-high-functioning,
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Uzimala sam pilule sa DHK da bih se osigurala da moja beba
ima mozak koji super funkcioniše, koji je izuzetno pametan,
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supersmart brain,
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02:35
and I ate mostly organic food,
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jela sam uglavnom organsku hranu,
02:38
and I trained for a medication-free labor,
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vežbala sam za porođaj bez lekova
02:41
and I did many other things
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i radila sam mnogo drugih stvari
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because I thought these things would help me make not just a good baby,
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jer sam mislila da će mi pomoći ne samo da stvorim dobru bebu,
02:47
but the best baby possible.
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već najbolju moguću bebu.
02:50
When my daughter Fiona was born, she weighed 4 pounds, 12 ounces,
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Kada se moja ćerka Fiona rodila, imala je četiri funte i 12 unci
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or 2.15 kilograms.
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ili 2,15 kilograma.
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The pediatrician said there were only two possible explanations
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Pedijatar je rekao da postoje samo dva moguća objašnjenja
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for her tiny size.
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za to što je tako malena.
03:04
"Either," he said, "it's bad seed,"
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„Ili je loše seme“, rekao je,
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"or it's bad soil."
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„ili je loše zemljište.“
03:09
And I wasn't so tired from labor to lose the thread of his logic:
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Nisam bila toliko umorna od porođaja da bih izgubila nit njegove logike:
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my newborn, according to the doctor,
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moje novorođenče je, prema doktoru,
03:16
was a bad plant.
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bilo loša biljka.
03:19
Eventually, I learned that my daughter had an ultra-rare chromosomal condition
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Na kraju sam saznala da moja ćerka ima izuzetno retko stanje hromozoma
03:24
called Wolf-Hirschhorn syndrome.
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zvano Volf-Hiršhornov sindrom.
03:26
She was missing a chunk of her fourth chromosome.
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Nedostajao joj je deo četvrtog hromozoma.
03:29
And although my daughter was good --
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I mada je moja ćerka bila dobro -
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she was alive,
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bila je živa,
03:34
and she had brand new baby skin
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imala je novu bebastu kožu
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and the most aware onyx eyes --
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i vrlo svesne oči poput oniksa -
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I also learned that people with her syndrome
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takođe sam saznala da ljudi sa njenim sindromom
03:42
have significant developmental delays and disabilities.
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značajno zaostaju u razvoju i imaju invaliditete.
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Some never learn to walk or talk.
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Neki nikada ne nauče da hodaju ili govore.
03:48
I did not have the equanimity of the farmer.
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Nisam imala staloženost seljaka.
03:52
The situation looked unequivocally bad to me.
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Situacija mi je izgledala nedvosmisleno loše.
03:56
But here's where the parable is so useful,
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Ali, evo gde je parabola korisna,
03:59
because for weeks after her diagnosis, I felt gripped by despair,
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jer sam nedeljama nakon dijagnoze bila obuzeta očajem,
04:04
locked in the story that all of this was tragic.
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zaglavljena u priči u kojoj je sve bilo tragično.
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Reality, though -- thankfully -- is much more fluid,
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Stvarnost je, doduše - srećom - mnogo promenljivija
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and it has much more to teach.
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i ima mnogo čemu još da nauči.
04:15
As I started to get to know this mysterious person who was my kid,
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Kada sam počela da upoznajem tu misterioznu osobu od mog deteta,
04:20
my fixed, tight story of tragedy loosened.
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popustila je moja fiksirana, kruta priča o tragediji.
04:24
It turned out my girl loved reggae,
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Ispostavilo se da moja devojčica voli rege
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and she would smirk when my husband would bounce her tiny body up and down
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i kezila se kada bi moj muž bacakao njeno sićušno telo gore-dole u ritmu.
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to the rhythm.
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04:31
Her onyx eyes eventually turned the most stunning Lake Tahoe blue,
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Njene oči noje oniksa su na kraju poprimile
najdivniju plavu boju poput jezera Taho,
04:36
and she loved using them to gaze intently into other people's eyes.
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i volela je da njima intenzivno zuri drugim ljudima u oči.
04:41
At five months old, she could not hold her head up like other babies,
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Na uzrastu od pet meseci, nije umela da drži glavu uspravno kao druge bebe,
04:45
but she could hold this deep, intent eye contact.
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ali mogla je da održava dubok, intenzivan kontakt očima.
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One friend said, "She's the most aware baby I've ever seen."
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Jedan prijatelj mi je rekao: „Ona je najsvesnija beba koju sam ikad video.“
04:53
But where I saw the gift of her calm, attentive presence,
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Ali tu gde sam ja videla dar njenog mirnog, pažljivog prisustva,
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an occupational therapist who came over to our house to work with Fiona
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okupaciona terapeutkinja koja je došla da radi u našoj kući sa Fionom
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saw a child who was neurologically dull.
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videla je dete koje je bilo neurološki tupo.
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This therapist was especially disappointed
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Ova terapeutkinja je naročito bila razočarana
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that Fiona wasn't rolling over yet,
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jer se Fiona još nije prevrtala,
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and so she told me we needed to wake her neurology up.
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pa mi je rekla da moramo da probudimo njenu neurologiju.
05:13
One day she leaned over my daughter's body,
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Jednog dana se nagnula nad mojom ćerkom,
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took her tiny shoulders,
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uhvatila je za njena mala ramena,
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jostled her and said, "Wake up! Wake up!"
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prodrmala je i rekla: „Probudi se! Probudi se!“
05:21
We had a few therapists visit our house that first year,
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Nekoliko terapeuta je posećivalo našu kuću te prve godine
05:24
and they usually focused on what they thought was bad about my kid.
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i obično su se fokusirali na ono što su mislili da je loše kod mog deteta.
05:28
I was really happy when Fiona started using her right hand
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Bila sam baš srećna kada je Fiona počela da koristi desnu ruku
05:31
to bully a dangling stuffed sheep,
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da udara viseću plišanu ovcu,
05:34
but the therapist was fixated on my child's left hand.
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ali se terapeut fiksirao na njenu levu ruku.
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Fiona had a tendency not to use this hand very often,
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Fiona je imala tendenciju da ne koristi tu ruku često,
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and she would cross the fingers on that hand.
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i prekrstila bi prste na toj ruci.
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So the therapist said we should devise a splint,
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Zato je terapeut rekao da treba da osmislimo neki uložak
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which would rob my kid of the ability to actually use those fingers,
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koji bi mom detetu oduzeo sposobnost da zapravo koristi te prste,
05:51
but it would at least force them into some position that looked normal.
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ali bi ih makar naterao da zauzmu neki položaj koji izgleda normalno.
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In that first year, I was starting to realize a few things.
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Te prve godine počela sam da shvatam nekoliko stvari.
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One: ancient parables aside, my kid had some bad therapists.
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Prvo: stare parabole na stranu, moje dete je imalo loše terapeute.
06:02
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
06:03
Two: I had a choice.
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Drugo: imala sam izbor.
06:05
Like a person offered to swallow a red pill or a blue pill,
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Kao osoba kojoj je ponuđeno da proguta crvenu ili plavu pilulu,
06:09
I could choose to see my daughter's differences as bad;
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mogla sam da odaberem da vidim različitosti svoje ćerke kao loše;
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I could strive toward the goal that her therapists called,
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mogla sam da težim cilju koji su njeni terapeuti zvali
06:16
"You'd never know."
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„ko bi rekao“.
06:17
They loved to pat themselves on the back when they could say about a kid,
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Voleli su da čestitaju sebi kada bi mogli da kažu za dete:
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"You'd never know he was 'delayed' or 'autistic' or 'different.'"
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„Ko bi rekao da je 'usporeno', 'autistično' ili 'drugačije'.“
06:25
I could believe that the good path was the path that erased
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Mogla sam da verujem da je dobra staza ona koja briše
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as many differences as possible.
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što je moguće više razlika.
06:32
Of course, this would have been a disastrous pursuit,
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Naravno, to bi bila katastrofalna putanja,
06:35
because at the cellular level, my daughter had rare blueprints.
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jer je, na ćelijskom nivou, moja ćerka imala redak nacrt.
06:39
She wasn't designed to be like other people.
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Nije bila programirana da bude kao drugi ljudi.
06:42
She would lead a rare life.
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Vodila bi neobičan život.
06:44
So, I had another choice: I could drop my story
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Imala sam zato drugi izbor.
Mogla sam da odustanem od svoje priče da su neurološke razlike,
06:48
that neurological differences and developmental delays and disabilities
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kašnjenje u razvoju i invaliditeti loši,
06:53
were bad,
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06:54
which means I could also drop my story that a more able-bodied life was better.
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što znači da bih takođe napustila priču da je život u sposobnijem telu bolji.
07:00
I could release my cultural biases about what made a life good or bad
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Mogla sam da odustanem od svojih kulturnih predrasuda
o tome šta život čini dobrim ili lošim
07:05
and simply watch my daughter's life as it unfolded
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i jednostavno posmatram dok se život moje ćerke odvija
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with openness and curiosity.
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uz otvorenost i radoznalost.
07:12
One afternoon she was lying on her back,
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Jednog popodneva je ležala na leđima
07:14
and she arched her back on the carpet
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i povila je leđa na tepihu,
07:17
stuck her tongue out of the side of her mouth
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izbacila jezik na stranu usta
07:20
and managed to torque her body onto her belly.
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i uspela da izvije telo na stomak.
07:24
Then she tipped over and rolled back onto her back,
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Zatim se preturila i prevrnula se na leđa
07:27
and once there, she managed to do it all over again,
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i još jednom je uspela da sve to ponovi,
07:30
rolling and wiggling her 12-pound self under a coffee table.
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prevrćući i koprcajući se ispod stočića sa svojih 5,5 kila.
07:34
At first, I thought she'd gotten stuck there,
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Najpre sam pomislila da se zaglavila tu,
07:37
but then I saw her reaching for something that her eye had been on all along:
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ali zatim sam videla kako poseže za nečim u šta je sve vreme gledala:
07:42
a black electric cord.
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za crnim električnim kablom.
07:44
She was a year old.
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Imala je godinu dana.
07:46
Other babies her age were for sure pulling up to stand and toddling around,
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Svakako da su se druge bebe njenog uzrasta uspravljale da stoje i gegale unaokolo,
07:51
some of them.
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neke od njih.
07:53
To some, my kid's situation looked bad:
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Za neke je situacija sa mojim detetom izgledala loše -
07:57
a one-year-old who could only roll.
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jednogodišnjakinja koja može samo da se prevrće.
07:59
But screw that.
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Ali koga briga za to.
08:00
My kid was enjoying the new, limber freedom of mobility.
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Moje dete je uživalo u novoj, gipkoj slobodi pokretljivosti.
08:05
I rejoiced.
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Radovala sam se.
08:07
Then again, what I watched that afternoon was a baby yanking on an electric cord,
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Pa ipak, tog popodneva sam posmatrala kako beba vuče električni kabl,
08:11
so you know,
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tako da, znate,
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good or bad, hard to say.
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dobro ili loše, teško je reći.
08:14
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
08:16
I started seeing that when I released my grip
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Počela sam da uviđam da, kada sam prestala da se grčevito držim
08:20
about what made a life good or bad,
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za ono što život čini dobrim ili lošim,
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I could watch my daughter's life unfold and see what it was.
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mogla sam da posmatram život svoje ćerke kako se odvija i da vidim kakav on jeste.
08:27
It was beautiful,
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Bio je prelep,
08:28
it was complicated,
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bio je složen,
08:31
joyful, hard --
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radostan, težak.
08:33
in other words: just another expression of the human experience.
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Drugim rečima, samo još jedan izraz ljudskog iskustva.
08:40
Eventually, my family and I moved to a new state in America,
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Na kraju smo se moja porodica i ja preselili u novu američku državu
08:43
and we got lucky with a brand-new batch of therapists.
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i posrećilo nam se sa novom grupom terapeuta.
08:47
They didn't focus on all that was wrong with my kid.
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Oni se nisu fokusirali na sve ono što ne valja kod mog deteta.
08:51
They didn't see her differences as problems to fix.
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Nisu videli njene razlike kao probleme koje treba popraviti.
08:54
They acknowledged her limitations,
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Prepoznali su njena ograničenja,
08:56
but they also saw her strengths,
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ali su takođe videli njene snage
08:59
and they celebrated her for who she was.
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i veličali su je zbog onoga što jeste.
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Their goal wasn't to make Fiona as normal as possible;
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Njihov cilj nije bio da što više unormale Fionu;
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their goal was simply to help her be as independent as possible
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cilj im je bio da joj jednostavno pomognu da bude što je moguće više nezavisna
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so that she could fulfill her potential, however that looked for her.
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tako da ostvari svoj potencijal, kako god to kod nje izgledalo.
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But the culture at large does not take this open attitude about disabilities.
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Ali, uopšte gledano, kultura ne zauzima ovaj otvoreni stav o invalidnosti.
09:20
We call congenital differences "birth defects,"
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Nazivamo kongenitalne razlike „urođenim manama“,
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as though human beings were objects on a factory line.
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kao da su ljudska bića predmeti na fabričkoj traci.
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We might offer pitying expressions
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Možda ćemo izraziti saosećanje
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when we learn that a colleague had a baby with Down syndrome.
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kada saznamo da je koleginica dobila bebu sa Daunovim sindromom.
09:33
We hail a blockbuster film about a suicidal wheelchair user,
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Hvalimo popularni film o suicidnom korisniku invalidskih kolica,
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despite the fact that actual wheelchair users tell us
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uprkos činjenici da nam ljudi koji zaista koriste invalidska kolica
09:40
that stereotype is unfair and damaging.
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poručuju da je ovaj stereotip nepravedan i štetan.
09:44
And sometimes our medical institutions decide what lives are not worth living.
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Ponekad naše medicinske ustanove odlučuju koje živote ne vredi živeti.
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Such is the case with Amelia Rivera,
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Takav je slučaj sa Amelijom Riverom,
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a girl with my daughter's same syndrome.
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devojčicom sa istim sindromom koji ima moja ćerka.
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In 2012, a famous American children's hospital
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Godine 2012, poznata američka bolnica za decu
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initially denied Amelia the right to a lifesaving kidney transplant
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prvobitno je Ameliji uskratila pravo na spasonosnu transplantaciju bubrega
10:02
because, according to their form,
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jer je ona, prema njihovom obrascu,
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as it said, she was "mentally retarded."
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kako je navedeno, „mentalno retardirana“.
10:07
This is the way that the story of disabilities as bad manifests
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Na ovaj način se priča o invalidnostima kao o lošim
manifestuje u kulturi.
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in a culture.
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10:12
But there's a surprisingly insidious counterstory --
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Ali, postoji iznenađujući prikriveni kontrast -
10:16
the story, especially, that people with intellectual disabilities are good
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priča o tome kako su, pogotovo, ljudi sa intelektualnom ometenošću dobri
10:21
because they are here to teach us something magical,
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jer su ovde da bi nas naučili nečemu čarobnom
10:24
or they are inherently angelic and always sweet.
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ili da su sami po sebi anđeli i uvek ljupki.
10:28
You have heard this ableist trope before:
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Čuli ste već ovaj disabilistički trop:
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the boy with Down syndrome who's one of God's special children,
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dečak sa Daunovim sindromom koji je jedno od božje posebne dece
10:36
or the girl with the walker and the communication device
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ili devojčica sa šetalicom i komunikacionim uređajem
koja je dragoceni mali anđeo.
10:40
who is a precious little angel.
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10:42
This story rears its head in my daughter's life
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Ova priča je pomolila glavu u životu moje ćerke
10:44
around Christmastime,
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u vreme Božića,
kada izvesne ljude uhvati pozitivno raspoloženje
10:46
when certain people get positively giddy
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10:48
at the thought of seeing her in angel's wings and a halo
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na pomisao da je vide sa krilima anđela i oreolom
10:51
at the pageant.
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na maskenbalu.
10:53
The insinuation is that these people don't experience the sticky complexities
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Stiče se utisak da ovi ljudi ne proživljavaju nezgodne složenosti
10:58
of being human.
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ljudskog postojanja.
11:00
And although at times, especially as a baby,
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Iako je povremeno, pogotovo kao beba,
11:02
my daughter has, in fact, looked angelic,
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moja ćerka zaista izgledala kao anđeo,
11:06
she has grown into the type of kid
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izrasla je u takvo dete
11:08
who does the rascally things that any other kid does,
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koje radi nevaljale stvari kao i bilo koje dete,
11:11
such as when she, at age four, shoved her two-year-old sister.
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kao kada je, sa četiri godine, gurnula svoju dvogodišnju sestru.
11:17
My girl deserves the right to annoy the hell out of you,
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Moja devojčica zaslužuje pravo da vas nervira do bola,
11:20
like any other kid.
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kao i svako drugo dete.
11:23
When we label a person tragic or angelic,
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Kada etiketiramo osobu kao tragičnu ili anđeosku,
11:27
bad or good,
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lošu ili dobru,
11:29
we rob them of their humanity,
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oduzimamo joj ljudskost,
11:31
along with not only the messiness and complexity that that title brings,
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a uz to ne samo i haotičnost i složenost koju ta titula nosi,
11:36
but the rights and dignities as well.
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već i prava i dostojanstvo.
11:40
My girl does not exist to teach me things
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Moja devojčica ne postoji
da bi mene ili bilo koga drugog podučila nečemu,
11:42
or any of us things,
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11:44
but she has indeed taught me:
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ali me je zaista naučila:
11:46
number one, how many mozzarella cheese sticks
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kao prvo, koliko štapića od mocarele
11:49
a 22-pound human being can consume in one day --
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ljudsko biće od 10 kilograma može da pojede u jednom danu -
11:52
which is five, for the record;
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pet, da se zna;
11:55
and two, the gift of questioning my culture's beliefs
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i kao drugo, daru preispitivanja mojih kulturoloških uverenja
12:00
about what makes a life good
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o tome šta život čini dobrim,
12:02
and what makes life bad.
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a šta ga čini lošim.
12:04
If you had told me six years ago
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Da ste mi rekli pre šest godina
12:07
that my daughter would sometimes use and iPad app to communicate,
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da će moja ćerka ponekad koristiti aplikaciju na Ajpedu da komunicira,
12:11
I might have thought that was sad.
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možda bih pomislila da je to tužno.
12:14
But now I recall the first day I handed Fiona her iPad,
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Ali sada se sećam prvog dana kada sam Fioni dala njen Ajped,
12:18
loaded with a thousand words,
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pun hiljadu reči,
12:21
each represented by a tiny little icon or little square on her iPad app.
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od kojih je svaka predstavljena ikonicom ili kvadratićem na njenoj aplikaciji.
12:26
And I recall how bold and hopeful it felt,
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Sećam se kakav je to bio osećaj odvažnosti i nade,
12:29
even as some of her therapists said that my expectations were way too high,
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iako su neki njeni terapeuti govorili da su moja očekivanja previsoka,
12:34
that she would never be able to hit those tiny targets.
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da ona nikada neće moći da pogodi te sićušne mete.
12:38
And I recall watching in awe as she gradually learned
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Sećam se kako sam je posmatrala sa oduševljenjem dok je postepeno učila
12:42
to flex her little thumb
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da savije svoj maleni palac
12:44
and hit the buttons to say words she loved,
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i pritisne dugmad da bi rekla reči koje voli,
12:47
like "reggae" and "cheese"
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kao što su „rege“, „sir“
12:50
and a hundred other words she loved that her mouth couldn't yet say.
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i stotinu drugih reči koje voli, a koje njena usta još ne mogu da izgovore.
12:55
And then we had to teach her less-fun words, prepositions --
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Zatim smo morali da je naučimo manje zabavnim rečima, predlozima,
12:58
words like "of" and "on" and "in."
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rečima kao što su „od“, „na“ i „u“.
13:01
And we worked on this for a few weeks.
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Radili smo na tome nekoliko nedelja.
13:03
And then I recall sitting at a dining room table
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Zatim, sećam se da smo sedeli za trpezarijskim stolom
13:06
with many relatives,
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sa mnogo rođaka,
13:08
and, apropos of absolutely nothing,
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i onako sasvim uzgred,
13:11
Fiona used her iPad app to say,
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Fiona je upotrebila aplikaciju na Ajpedu da kaže:
13:15
"poop in toilet."
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„kaka u šolji“.
13:18
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
13:20
Good or bad, hard to say.
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Dobro ili loše, teško je reći.
13:22
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
13:23
My kid is human, that's all.
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Moje dete je ljudsko biće, to je sve.
13:25
And that is a lot.
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A to je velika stvar.
13:28
Thank you.
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Hvala.
13:29
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
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